Andrew Armour arrested and charged

Andrew Armour
Andrew Armour

Police have arrested and charged hotelier, Andrew Armour, for the manslaughter of Casey-Ann Schulman, an American student who was killed in a boating incident off the coast of Mero.

Schulman, 22, was visiting Dominica with friends and was in the sea when she was struck by the propeller of a boat captained by Andrew Armour on December 1, 2012.

She sustained major injuries to all parts of her body, including her head, and was pronounced dead at the Princess Margaret Hospital.

The authorities in Dominica have been under pressure from attorneys representing Schulman’s family who said they wanted “justice” for their daughter.

Armour appeared in court and was granted bail.

He is expected to reappear in the St. Joseph Magistrate Court on May 14.

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274 Comments

  1. angel
    October 22, 2013

    There needs to be justice. If he’s guilty of negligence he needs to pay. We need to start taking justice seriously in this country, if we want to live in a civilized society. It’s because we currently don’t, that so many crimes go un-investigated and unsolved and the result is a lawless nation with no future to look forward to.

  2. zaina kilam
    May 14, 2013

    mero, the area where the accident occurred is quite well zoned, thanks to the mero committee. the iaccident happened soputh or on the roseau side of the designated and marked swimming area. further, the victim was not a random swimmer, but was seen with her friend on board the boat having lunch just minutes before. :(

  3. A reasonable human
    May 13, 2013

    The court is not the place for this just yet. If the autopsy listed it as an accident and there is a dispute by the family then they can demand a coronors inquest into the matter, where evidence would be presented to first determine what actually happened. I guess the Armours are no longer considered suppoters of the labour party. In Grenada after the death of a Canadian citizen through a police department beating the officers criminal charges were dropped by the judge to first dtermine through an inquiry as to the circumstances surrounding the death.

  4. John
    May 13, 2013

    The story has already reached CNN and international news. There is something called negligence and Dominica must take steps to ensure this does not reflect poorly on all of our nations tourism industry. This is what courts are for and I for one am glad this will be settled. But as far as reflecting poorly on Dominica, the damage is done. We failed to arrest someone in a simple case of negligent manslaughter-and that is already playing on major news networks.

    • zaina kilam
      May 14, 2013

      mero, the area where the accident occurred is quite well zoned, thanks to the mero committee. the accident happened south or on the roseau side of the designated and marked swimming area. further, the victim was not a random swimmer, but was seen with her friend on board the boat having lunch just minutes before.

  5. Isoitis
    May 11, 2013

    I hear our PM say Dominica must implement a sea zoning policy at all public beaches, so that swimmers know where it is safe to swim and speedboats/jetskis are not allowed to enter there…if they are caught entering the swimzone by police they will get their boat/jetski confiscated and have to pay $10,0000 to get it back.. In this way the risk of people being injured/killed by careless/reckless motorboat & jetski operators will be significantly reduced..is so I here it..bravo PM..I support YOUR idea!

    • maximoto
      May 12, 2013

      great idea! sad that it had to take a death to conceptualise that.

  6. Anonymous
    May 10, 2013

    an accident is an accident. i am tired of this. n accident. no intent. this can happen to anyone, even the most careful. not that i am unsympathetic to the victims family and the pain that they bear due to the loss. but the life is gone through accident. why should we try to ruin another family. if this guy in his conscious mind could have done something to avoid this wouldn’t he have. come on thats why it is an accident. no malice intended. the guy is the hotel industry, promoting domnican service. he slip he slide. he failed we want to take his life for what to return the victims. unbelieveable.

    • Think About It
      May 11, 2013

      Couldn’t agree with you more. It’s nice to see an intelligent voice….a voice of reason and sanity. Thank you.

      • Nature Spice
        May 12, 2013

        I wonder if the victim was your family or someone close to you, would you still have that stands.

        The court is the proper institution to determine if the incident was an accident therefore, he has to be taken to the court to determine his guilt or innocence.

        The only process to do this is what have been done by the police. So it’s not a matter of ruin another family. It not based on emotions but law so let the process take it rightful course.

      • yep!!
        May 12, 2013

        If it was your child you would be dancing and singing a different tune. Hmmm people of this world i tell you… yes I!!!! :-x :twisted: am shedding a tear for the young girl cause i got a heart :cry:
        where is yours. :roll:

      • listen
        May 12, 2013

        DNO stop removing my comment as i say and i will say again if it was your child you will be singing a different tune that is if you got any , as the saying say who in the kitchen feeling the heat. It was not a rat that was killed it was a human being a young human being you all people could be to cold. I feel for the Shulman’s family. DNO i have freedom of speech like every one else post my comment thank you

    • listen
      May 12, 2013

      yes an accident is an accident the man was operating the boat with out a licence, let me say some thing here when some one has a boat and people get on it and you call your self a captain that person who is the captain is fully responsible of the passengers, and caution has to be exercise at all times passenger has to be counted before departures and if there is any stops they have to be counted be the boat depart again and that is before engine start. OK now that was suppose to be done that’s a job of a captain of a boat especially when you got tourist on board, any body in a matter of fact. Dominican please please stop it, STOP IT.

    • Anonymous S
      May 14, 2013

      mero, the area where the accident occurred is quite well zoned, thanks to the mero committee. the accident happened south or on the roseau side of the desisgnated and marked swimming area. further, the victim was not a random swimmer, but was seen with her friend on board the boat having lunch just minutes before.

  7. don't hate
    May 10, 2013

    Every one must follow the law
    Leaders must obey the law
    Government must obey the law
    No one is above the law

    So whether is Amour crazy yellow on the street or prime minister skerrit, even if it’s an accident some one has died it is serious it has to go before the court they have to get all the facts straight. And make their move as to what punishment is fit for ……. OK so Dominican stop making you selves look like fools before this reach CNN, HLN and wolf Blitzer, and tourism will definitely be gone. Or else you all will look like fools in front of the whole world. now that’s my 2 cent like it or don’t read it……

    • FAB VOICE
      May 10, 2013

      NICE!!!

    • yep!!
      May 12, 2013

      well said that’s the best comment ever… :wink: :wink: :wink:

  8. truth offends
    May 10, 2013

    Almost seven months after a 22 year old young lady lost her life in Dominica, finally we have an arrest. The sad thing about it is the arrest was not motivated by justice but rather by pressure from the family of the dead. All I can say is, “I Dominique!”
    Are we saying that if she was not an American and the family did not apply pressure on the authorities, there would not have been an arrest at all? What is wrong with justice in Dominica these days?
    If we were living in a country where democracy was practiced, surely the police commissioner, the DPP, the minister of national security and the PM would either be fired or forced to resign over this. We talking about a visitor that got killed (accidental death) and the same day she died, we knew how she got killed, where she got killed, who was operating the boat at the time of the accident and last but not list, status of the captain. What else was there to investigate before an arrest was made? Why it had to take so much pressure from their attorney to finally get an arrest?
    If we recall, in April of 2013, DNO published part of a letter from nine attorneys representing the family and the letter was addressed to Police Commissioner Daniel Carbon and DPP. On the letter they were simply asking why after six months Mr. Andrew Armour has not been arrested and charged with the murder of their daughter, especially knowing very well that Mr. Armour did not have proper license to operate the vessel.
    Almost a month later we got an arrest. However, if we think that all they are interested in is an arrest we would be making a serious mistake. Somehow I feel they will try to tie this to negligence and possibly cover-up on the side of the authorities, and it will be the beginning of something huge with all those lawyers they have hired. Only time will tell because the sins of the justice system here will surely find them out.

    • Vero Don
      May 12, 2013

      “Pressure from the victim’s family” is never a reason to prefer Criminal Charges against anyone.
      If the D.P.P. brought charges because of that pressure he is wrong.

  9. pragmatic
    May 10, 2013

    Somebody has to be held responsible, there are consequences when such accidents happen..look what happened when the Italy cruise ship Costa Concordia aground near Giglio, the captain was held responsible. In as much I feel for Andrew, we have to have accountanbility for all deaths. And whoever said it above…”BUT WE ARE ALL DISTINGUISHED DOMINICANS..JIX US POOR MALAYWAY!”

  10. Pussinka
    May 10, 2013

    :cry: SO SO sorry for the demise of the young lady but Andrew does not deserve this. You are in my prayers; God can change the situation for you. Do not fear.

  11. perseverance
    May 10, 2013

    Many people are charged for accidentally killing others. Yes, there may have been no actual intent to harm/kill, but if the accused was negligent in his operation of the boat, then there may be grounds for a charge here.

    We have to wait and see what evidence there is and that will come out in the case if it goes forward. It is a horrible shame that that young lady lost her life and lost it the way she did.

    My own children have been at risk when certain fishermen drive their boats too close to the shore at the beaches. To think that something similar could have happened to them. God…

  12. Anansi
    May 10, 2013

    This is purely a knee jerk response to the Americans putting pressure on some “poor little Island.”

    We do not know all the circumstances. The girl may have been intoxicated, Andrew may have temp lost control, who knows. Let the courts decide.

    While I feel for both families, I am adamant that the case should be held in a Dominican court of law. Because it is still classified as manslaughter, it could be deemed either voluntary or involuntary. From the vigor of the prosecution, it sounds like they’ll be less than pleased with an involuntary manslaughter verdict.

    The US has been known to make irrational demands, such as the extradition request of an Egyptian Hotelier (similar to Mr. Armour’s case), when the hotelier was found not guilty in an Egyptian court of law – the matter is still going on.

    My point is that I am dead AGAINST any future requests for extradition by the US, should it come to that. That is where we as Dominicans should throw our weight behind any decision, not to have the US override the legal verdict reached.

    • boy look ting
      May 13, 2013

      shout your mouth somebody died not a goat…..

  13. UDOHREADYET
    May 10, 2013

    Spell check needs grammar check sometimes! It’s understandable that no one in his right mind would intentionally hurt or kill an innocent person especially the way this young woman was killed. We must also understand that Andrew and those present saw or understand the real circumstances surrounding the accidental death of this young woman. She could have been negligent by swimming in the wrong area or he could have been negligent either through drinking or going too close to the shore or showing off. Let the truth be told by allowing those affected and involved to find peace, clear their names or pay their price accordingly.

  14. ?
    May 10, 2013

    Nice people make mistakes. Mistakes have consequences. The person lost her life – forget her nationality for a minute. If he wasn’t arrested, some of allu would say is because of his name. Now he is arrested, is “alas”. If it was ur family member, it would be something else. Pray for a fair trial all around. Period.

    • Anonymous
      May 10, 2013

      I don’t think there will be a fair trial; One way or the other. This one is in the hands of the almighty because of the failings of man. Xenophobia, big name, all kinds of bias has already started to surface. And all this before the facts emerge.

  15. MUTA
    May 10, 2013

    The grammar of those who comment here is really shamefull !

    • Bwa kWAIEB
      May 11, 2013

      shameful has one ‘l’. :lol: :lol: I guess you were speaking about yourself here as well?

  16. Voice_Of_The_Poor
    May 10, 2013

    Mr.Emmanuel Isidore u are a world war veteran please write Queen Elizabeth II about your case so we can get it moving, your matter is a terrible injustice! We feel your pain. :mrgreen:

  17. Morihei Ueshiba
    May 10, 2013

    Can skerro be part of the lawsuit for making the license fees to high for andrew to operate? :cry:

  18. jobe
    May 10, 2013

    and trust me if mr,Armor walks free the state will pay. Its either Mr.armor or the police force

  19. Delicious
    May 10, 2013

    Any accidental or untimely loss of life is a tragedy, but the loss of one so young is even more tragic.

    I’m no lawyer, but the family seems to be seeking monetary compensation for accidental death. That’s common practice in developed countries.

  20. true
    May 10, 2013

    Every body just keep saying accident, like accidents happen just like that by themselves? or the boat just move by itself and kill the young lady. if anyone of you have ever been on a snorkeling trip or catamaran you would see how much precaution they take with passengers, did he do that, we will only know in the courts
    too much ignorance from this message board.
    I wonder if it was one of your relatives if you all would be saying the same thing? like

    ” it is OK he did not mean to kill my daughter, the boat just move by itself and kill her, I love Mr Amour”

  21. St.john Mingo
    May 10, 2013

    we must not mistaken this two words! accident and incident.all needed was ten people to come forward and say what they saw. THE FAMOUS LETTER “W” WHO;WHOM’WHERE’WHEN AND WHY? all the honest people use their names,Mr Darwin the magnificent one.people allow their heart to control their way of thinking.some people refused to do their jobs and take responsibilities seriously.NOW THE STATE HAS TAKEN OVER.IF YOU CANNOT HELP DONT MAKE THINGS WORST TAKE IT EASY AND HOPE FOR THE BEST

  22. Francisco Telemaque
    May 10, 2013

    It is never easy to accept it when someone dies, be it from natural causes, homicide, or an accident!

    Since the focus is an accident we must remember an accident is an event occurring unexpectedly, and happing without intent, or through carelessness, and often with unfortunate results; which one may say is an unforeseen, and unplanned event, or circumstance resulting not from carelessness, or ignorance!

    I suppose Amour did not wake up the morning of the incident and decided he was going to run over a visitor to our country. If anyone could substantiate that with evidence he would be found guilty of premeditated murder.

    So as it stands at this point it must be noted as an accident. People do have the right to call for justice in a situation such as this, however I hope that the parents nationality, and money played no part in the arrest of this man. Ultimately there will be a trial, evidence will be president, and if he is guilty so be it, however because one is arrested does not make him guilty of a crime.

    They could carry a hundred lawyers to Dominica, unless they are called to the bar in our country, they can only talk, however, cannot represented the victim in court, they can only sit in as observers if the court allows them.

    In common law the accuse is innocent until proven guilty, that’s the way it is in America, and so too in Dominica!

    In America, people get killed by accident everyday in car accidents, and very few people goes to jail for such accidents. My two year old grandson Terry Telemaque, got ran over by a Mexican woman, the police went to the scene of the accident, and interviewed her, she spoke to the police who did not even site her for dangerous driving or anything like that.

    She was not arrested!

    This lady who killed my grandson, is an Principal of a School, she even lied and said she had no insurance on her car, I had to get an investigator to investigate her and found out she indeed had coverage, thus we got her to pay for the burial expenses, plus several hundreds of thousand of dollars the death of Terry.

    In a situation such as what happened in Dominica unless careless, and intent with malice can be proved, though I feel sorry for the parents, and the lost of their daughter, I must say seeking vengeance for her accidental death will not quench their pain!

    Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque

  23. eyes to see
    May 10, 2013

    take the case straight to the privy council and then sue them there for wasting your time… no evidence was gathered and therefore would result in the case being thrown out… the lawyers in the states know that and will suck that woman’s family dry… they apply pressure to this little ‘kai poule’ police force that we have in Dominica… Dominicans need to no the truth and the Dominican ppl need to stand by ours

    • One Love
      May 11, 2013

      stand by ours???? who is de ours?

  24. warma
    May 10, 2013

    We all love Andrew, but let’s face it, you cannot sweep ANY accident under the proverbial rug, this one no less. The case has to be adjudicated in the right legal way. The fact is that someone lost their life as a result of a boating accident, and the individual commandeering the boat was Andrew. Yes we’re all ready to scream “it was an accident”, but the fact of the matter is that someone lost their life and consequently, the authorities MUST determine whether it was criminal or as a result of negligence. From the reports I’ve seen, it appears to be negligence in the definition of THE LAW. Just like a driver of a motor vehicle, a captain of a boat MUST ensure the proper operation of his vessel. It is his responsibility to account for ALL individuals under his care and if one is missing, he cannot move his boat until that person is accounted for – THAT’S A FACT. Proceeding to maneuver his boat without first accounting for everyone is negligent and anything resulting from that action he needs to account for. STOP BEING PREJUDICIAL. Some of you draw reference to other cases in Dominica that seem to be languishing in the hands of the police for allegedly a lack of enthusiasm in proceeding with them. I am sure you may have a point, but another point is this has nothing to do with these cases in limbo – this is a separate and distinct circumstance. I believe manslaughter is the minimum the police could charge an individual in a case where loss of life has occurred. Anything above that would imply that his actions were criminal in nature; anything less is a farce. Quite a bit of you seem ready to dismiss this because it’s Andrew and in your eyes, it’s clearly an accident. It’s not that simple people. I have read numerous stories where people have died in apparent accidents at the hands of others only to find out that there was a conspiracy behind the deaths. That’s not to say that this may be the case here, but the point is it has to be investigated and a clear line established as to what went on. Stop it people. Let’s show our support for Andrew by voicing our concern that the police do a good job and justice is done.

  25. Anonymous
    May 10, 2013

    Forgeting the true victim,the young lady only 22 and her family,have no doubt that it was an accident,but the other side has more to cry about.

  26. Jus Saying
    May 10, 2013

    Hold strong Andrew…the Whale Whisperer…Justice will prevail and you, your family and Anchorage will continue to do wat you guys do best!

  27. birdy1964
    May 10, 2013

    Good morning to Dominicans, it is so sad. this man have to go jail for an accident. He didn’t do purpose. So many crime committed in U.S.A. can some-one go there with there lawyer and demand prison, thats why in Aruba they had no say. the Dutch run the case and Aruba, this american think they run the world. small Island look up to them like gods.WE for sure don’t need them. locking him up will not bring her back to life.He going jail, he is alve and his famaily can see him.She is death you will never see her again. They are not the only tourists that travel the caribbean. I felt sad the young lady loss her life yes. but put aside this story some of this people are very csreless,where I am from this people refuse to pay a taxis back to there hotel from the restuarant, they rather walk the long dark road. where people got not down rub. One american got rub and stabb. They need to be cursious, the islands are not paradise any more.

    • Anonymous
      May 10, 2013

      Just a tourist need to be aware of there surrounding so do people who operate boats. We are fully aware that this was a terrible accident and it certanly is a wakeup call for the Dominican tourist industry.

    • Observer
      May 10, 2013

      You do not feel sorry for this young lady who lost her life, you sound so bitter and arrogant, Do really think every visitor is rich, some spend years saving to go on vacation. If they choose to walk to save some money, does that give one the right to hurt them? some of you are totally out of line.

  28. true
    May 10, 2013

    I should ask, how many of you have lost a son or a daughter, how they died, it does not matter, death is death? If you have not felt that pain, then you have no business talking.

  29. Merritt Wallick
    May 10, 2013

    Hold on, folks. DNO makes this statement: “The authorities in Dominica have been under pressure from attorneys representing Schulman’s family who said they wanted “justice” for their daughter.” Who says so? There is no attribution. DNO even uses scare quotes around the word “justice” to suggest that it isn’t really justice. Is this view coming from the writer? Manslaughter requires some degree of negligence. Do you really believe the prosecutor brought the charges without any evidence of negligence? You certainly can’t tell from this report.

    • Big- bannan
      May 10, 2013

      Well my dear Mr Wall-lick, do u suspect any form of negligence on Mr Amour’s part?

  30. Citizen Kane
    May 10, 2013

    Let the court determine if Mr. Armour should b e held liable for the death of the young lady. We are not a nation of barbarians, we are a nation of laws, civil.

    For those of you who are claiming that it was an accident .. even accidents have causes, including negligence on the part of one or the other…

    Manslaughter can be termed negligent homicide..

  31. Truth be told
    May 10, 2013

    So every fool in Dominica is now the justice system – they are all judge, jury and executioner. My God it seems that they are walking with the statutes in their heads. So because Dominicans do not know their rights other people must deny their rights? When an accident occur anywhere in the ‘lawful’ world (I know Dominica has become a lawless underworld) there is a police investigation to establish the facts of the accident and based on those facts there can be legal proceedings if it is shown that rules, procedures, guidelines, et cetera, et cetera, were not followed and thereby resulting in the accident. This is why when two vehicles collide although it is “an accident” the police still arrives to establish who might have been at fault and that person pays! The same investigative principle applies for every accident whether it is at sea, at school, the hospital or a construction site! People please learn to allow the judicial system to take its course before showing off your ignorance! You Dominicans are sickening me now with your level of ignorant expertise on all matters! You make me ashamed to be Dominican with the rubbish that you spew out!

  32. My two cents
    May 10, 2013

    This is a wake up call for the Government and the Police to enforce laws that will protect travelers no matter where they are land or skies or sea they treat people like luggage that they are moving from one point to the next reckless and unconcern about your safety it looks like an accident but these are Americans( SUE )is the first thing on their minds. If it were my child I definitely would want to know what happen to my child the Dominican Goverment have a (LESEFEA )attitude sorry for Armour but this is the serious play more attention to your passanger a head count befor turning that engine on

  33. Hate ignorance
    May 10, 2013

    We all know it was an accident , but what is the definition of accident? Is it because of him not having the relevant license why they are pursuing it so vigorously? Dominica court system is so unfair , i am here thinking that if Mr.Emanuel was an American the fire bomb case would have been pursued to , the 42 charges would have been heard already . Was the fire bombing an accident , i guess not , was the 42 charges money fraud an accident i guess not so why accidents are pursued in the court and not deliberate acts to injustice / attempted murder.

  34. Jeanne Julien
    May 10, 2013

    Someone died.the matter should have been properly investigated. It’s not good enough for various members of the public to just say ‘it was obviously an accident’. What is obvious is that the incident was avoidable. If the only thing that comes out of this is that others are more careful and so other lives are saved then that is good. The Americans are right to look for justice for their child. I Hope they don’t get any financial compensation though.

    • One Love
      May 11, 2013

      its money or jail seems you rather see him go jail

  35. josie
    May 10, 2013

    dominica police said it was an accident ,so why he is being arrested.american like to pressure people to make wrong decision against their own,its high time the island people start to say no,and protest mr.armour arrest

    • Anonymous
      May 10, 2013

      you are clearly clueless and ignorant. Go read a book

  36. RightMind
    May 10, 2013

    Once again the Americans are playing world policemen. I have some serious questions for the Americans why were the Ku Klux Klan members who murdered the three civil rights activist Michael Schwerner. Andrew Goodman. James Chaney, were never arrested and tried for murder, no other civilise country in the world kills their own people like the Americans, once it can be ascertained that Mr Andrew Armour did not deliberately kill this Americans citizen then he has got no case to answer. Can you imagine if one of our own people were to be in the same predicament in America and our government try to influence the out come of a potential court case they would tell use where to go so Mr Skerrit stand up for one of our own people.

    • Voice_Of_The_Poor
      May 10, 2013

      Stand up :lol: :lol: :lol:
      Skerrit only for himself!

  37. shakespere
    May 10, 2013

    this is just another example of this goverment caring more about outsiders then our own,this was an accident,if someone runs in front of a car and is killed would that be manslaughter,its crazy the girls family need only to know excactly what happened so that they can have closure but as is typical in DA everybody on the street knows that it was an accident but our police didnt care enough,were not professional enough to give the girls family the facts of what happened,our police force should be arrested for NEGLIGENCE……

  38. yes i
    May 10, 2013

    Justice system and them police good to throw in a valley somewhere, that all u wanna charge the man with…and others shooting man in their head and getting away with it, pack all u self somewhere

  39. Bwa kWAIEB
    May 10, 2013

    Yet the woman who murdered her two children was left free to roam the world. I guess the being a white accident victim compells the authorities to arrest someone for her death. I guess if I jump infront of a moving vehicle it’s the drivers fault that I get hit. haha What I’m I thinking they are Americans and it’s everybody else’s fault except theirs.

  40. Papso
    May 10, 2013

    This is sad.

    Its unfortunate that Dominicans do not attach a premium to peoples lives because of how laissez faire the society is. A Dominican woman being killed in the same scenario would have attracted some sympathies and nothing would have happened.

    That doesnt make it right.

    And the whole idea of hit and run has happened in Dominica and drivers who have been under the influence or careless have simply ‘walked’ because it is supposedly a MISTAKE. Much less a boat.

    Dominicans need to think and think deeply. What are the standards the society want to live by ? Do you want to accept that human life only has a premium in the first world or are you willing to concede that the same process you would engage with an accident in a more diligent world should be practised here as well.

  41. rol
    May 10, 2013

    I don’t think he is going jail but if he does, it won’t be for long but you will see how these people will behave. Watch out for a civil case. Hold strong brother.

  42. fair game
    May 10, 2013

    The court needs to decide if he was reckless and if those reckless actions led to the young lady’s death. There were a lot of people on the boat as well as on the beach that day who saw what happened. Sadly, but truthfully, even though it was an accident, there are consequences. And if the court decides he was reckless in his action, he will have to pay the consequences. It has nothing to do with if the family wants money. I doubt that is their motivation. This is by no means selfish of the young lady’s family to take this to court. If your family member died at the hands of someone’s reckless actions, you would pursue as they have, not only for “justice” but also so an in depth investigation is made to make sure the proper actions are taken to ensure that someone’s reckless actions will not be responsible for someone else death.

    Maybe this should be the charge?
    (taken from wikipedia)

    Criminally negligent manslaughter

    Criminally negligent manslaughter is variously referred to as criminally negligent homicide in the United States, gross negligence manslaughter in England and Wales. In Scotland and some Commonwealth of Nations jurisdictions the offence of culpable homicide might apply.

    It occurs where death results from serious negligence, or, in some jurisdictions, serious recklessness. A high degree of negligence is required to warrant criminal liability. A related concept is that of willful blindness, which is where a defendant intentionally puts himself in a position where he will be unaware of facts which would render him liable.

    Criminally negligent manslaughter occurs where there is an omission to act when there is a duty to do so, or a failure to perform a duty owed, which leads to a death. The existence of the duty is essential because the law does not impose criminal liability for a failure to act unless a specific duty is owed to the victim. It is most common in the case of professionals who are grossly negligent in the course of their employment. An example is where a doctor fails to notice a patient’s oxygen supply has disconnected and the patient dies (R v Adomako).

  43. brois
    May 10, 2013

    this is a very sad situation.a family’s daughter lost her life and a good family man is going to jail.dominica as a whole is in a sticky situation.if this matter is not handled with care and delicate diplomatic moves we as dominicans will pay.i read these comments . . .folks stop saying this is about money.dominica do not have that kind of money.this is bigger than that and i pray that it don’t have to come down to the state department getting involved.we as dominicans have it hard enough.folks make alot of nasty comments and preach hatred.more than three times dominica present population live abroad , ,half lives in a america . .most of us are us citizens but we don’t forget our homeland.we look out and we know the consequences of bad decisions.

  44. da to the bone
    May 9, 2013

    I have no idea what happen but i think they should change the law in DA. You cannot send someone to jail for an accident. Sad situation for both families.

    • Distured
      May 10, 2013

      Agreed. SOOOOOO STUPID!

      Rapists = free, everytime

      Murderer = free, with complimentary drinks.

      Dirty politician = worshipped by a flock of fools.

      Faked accident (a certain motorcyclist in Potters Ville)= Slap on the wrist.

      True accident? = Jailed. daf**!

      -Please note, i am anti-government and never will stand for the democratic system, since its beneath me.(failed system =_=)

    • Stealth Critique
      May 10, 2013

      > You cannot send someone to jail for an accident

      Of course you can. What are you talking about?

    • afan
      May 10, 2013

      well you should hate to find out that the world has moved on, what we call accidents they call collisions, citing that the word “accident” implies that no one is responsible or at fault. the dead lady’s lawyer could argue that is was Mr Armour’s poor judgement, on the decision to be operating a boat so close to beach users, therefore he is both responsible and liable in their client’s death

    • I Die Nah
      May 10, 2013

      What ignorance is that?Laws should be changed because people shouldn’t be sent to jail for “accidents”. What happened to Andrew was unintentional and sad, however the number of wreckless people we have the world over and you’re asking for people not to be sent to jail for accidents. So if you are on your cell phone or drunk like a skunk and kill somebody driving you shouldn’t be sent to jail because it’s an accident? Try it whereever you are and see if you DA to the bone will not rot in hell

    • $$$$
      May 10, 2013

      To all the fools who checked dislike shame on you!

    • budman
      May 10, 2013

      well you can’t say that just so. i will tell you why. there is a thing called negligence and undue care. if during the investigation, it is found that he did not act carefully in the performance of his trade, then he has a serious problem on his hands. I truly wish him the best.

    • true
      May 10, 2013

      too funny my friend, you think accident happen by themselves? accidents are caused my friend. Just ask Phillip Nassief who used to own coconut products. Law of physics hold true throughout life, with every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, and in some cases deadly reaction.

      Since you have no idea what happened then stay silent until you know, check?

      and no where I am implying that he is guilty.

      • Distured
        May 10, 2013

        Do u know what happened? You sound ever so confident. =_=)”

        Please enlighten us… If he was negligent, fine, hang him. IF not… what say u then? Then again, who am I to say wut is what. Im not God. I don’t know everything and I cannot pass judgement either. Oh wait, neither can you. O_O!

        Don’t get me wrong, i hate all humans, governments, unjust occurances equally; however, the thing I hate the most, is an innocent life form being persecuted. That will merit my full antagonisation, to the point where ppl will beg for their own…. i leave the rest to ur own imagining.

        Fair is fair but don’t exist no more. Never will as long as greed is involved. Your biased eyes cannot pass proper judgement of this situation.

    • :-(
      May 10, 2013

      An accident can be deemed NEGLIGENT especially if there WAS a way it could be prevented… and that,my friend, is cause to charge the individual for murder.

  45. Justice and Truth
    May 9, 2013

    Sorry to know that Armour was arrested. The DA government/police authorities succumbed to the persistence of the family and obviously on the advice of their lawyer.
    We should read between the lines. They are very well seeking monetary compensation and will dig out whatever they can get. You know, trying to get blood out of stone. Their case does not appear to me to be a sincere one. It appears that the family will not accept it as being an accident and will pursue it to all lengths to get their so-called satisfaction.
    Accidents do happen. It was not premeditated, willful accident or murder. In all fairness to him, this is where Dominicans must unite to denounce the actions of these people.
    A person should not be arrested unless it is proven that the person committed a crime and is guilty of it. The question is, is he guilty?
    Armour we know that you would not have done such a thing so as to endanger a life and the result of what occurred. I do hope in the end you will be proven not guilty. May God assist you.

    • same
      May 10, 2013

      allegedly, the man was not suppose to be operating the boat in the first place without a license….allegedly

    • budman
      May 10, 2013

      Justice and Truth i understand your sentiment and the sincerity of it. However, there could be a negligence charge and to be fair, none of us , including you, knows all the facts of the case. Let it play out. If the gentleman is found to have taken all reasonable steps to ensure safety, then he will be freed.

      • Justice and Truth
        May 13, 2013

        Budman and others who oppose what I stated. Consider that some passengers on cruise ships drown. The cruise ship management never accepts the responsibility. They get off Scot Free. Money talks I suppose. What would you say to that? Then, consider Andrew was not at fault. He did not willfully kill this woman. Why should he be penalized? Why should the DA police arrest him and charge him because of the persistence of the family and their lawyer?
        I stand by my views, that the family and the lawyer are seeking monetary compensation. You know, if I were the PM and police authorities I would have called for an inquiry the moment this accident occurred (if they did not) to determine what really occurred.
        There are times accidents occurred which led to injuries and death and charges are not laid. They are also acquitted. There must first be a full investigation prior to arrest and charges. I do think that the family and their lawyer are unfair in this case. They must first call for an investigation prior to any arrest being made. This should be the Law. If DA does not have such a Law, then it needs to be revamped. This is where I am fed-up of DA’s Law.
        If it were you and/or your family you would be singing a different tune and commenting differently.
        I am informing you that I know Andrew’s family, the Armour’s and also on his mother’s side. I am not taking sides. I speak out for justice and truth. I would do so for anyone where I feel that justice is remiss. Some of us have a sixth sense.
        I put on my thinking cap which some of you do not. You only view matters on a surface and do not think beyond and exercise prejudice which is detected in your comments. If in my heart I felt that he was at fault, I would have refrained from making comments. Dominicans should stand by him as a fellow Dominican.
        I wish Andrew all the best and reiterate may God assist him. Andrew, my prayers are with you. When I see one of your aunts and speak to her I will relay the same to her. Your family must be experiencing anxiety for you. God bless!

    • ...
      May 10, 2013

      arresting someone does not make them guilty… thats for the court to decide.

      it may have been a tragic accident but the question is was it avoidable? the family are more than in their rights to have this looked into.

      go read up on maritime law, a boat captain takes on more responsibility whilst at sea than say a car driver. Mr Armour knows this as does any Captain so am sure was fully aware that arrest and charges were inevitable

    • truth offends
      May 10, 2013

      @Justice $ Truth, While I try to listen to heart instead of what you stated, I am sorry but your advise makes no sense whatsoever. I agree it was an accident, and was not premeditated or willful murder; However, in the midst of an accident a young life has been gone. Put yourself in the shoe of this family and I don’t even want to know what you would have demanded. To say that the family is trying to get blood out of stone is just pure crap and shows insensitivity and ignorance on your part. Furthermore, to call on Dominicans to unite and denounce the actions of a hurting family is just pure crap. Is your call based on the fact that the family is American while Mr. Armour is a Dominican? I feel for Mr. Armour. I hope his boat was insured, and if so, the insurance will take care of the family. However, this is not a fight between an American and a Dominican. If anything, as a caring citizen, your call for unity should have been where we as a people standing with the hurting family and let them know that we are saddened by the loss of their daughter and we will do whatever we can to assist them during this difficult time. YOU CANNOT BE WRONG AND TRY TO BE STRONG AT THE SAME TIME. By the way, why did you not call on Dominicans to unite with Mr. & Mrs. Emanuel when their house was bombed on Christmas of 2010 and up to today their has not been an arrest, in such a small and slow island. That is what we should all denounce in the name of justice and truth, which is very far from what you try to advocate.

    • 4progress
      May 10, 2013

      You seem to have forgot that a person died as as result of his error. And yes he s innocent until proven guilty. However, this is a criminal investigation/case and so the evidence must be presented to determine guilt or not. The outcome will also inform the authorities as what other action should be taken to avoid another accident/murder.

      I hope the police have done a proper/thorough investigation to avoid any appeal by the defendant.

  46. May 9, 2013

    Manslaughter ?????somebody help me . maybe charge for negligence , not manslaughter ah-magwa-sa ……

    • Darwin.
      May 10, 2013

      Listen Buddy, soemeone actually died in this accident, a Family lost a Daugher who they will never see again, ever. Put yourselves in their shoes and tell me how you would feel. Is time we stop with this Plantation mentality in DA the whole world including the Caribbean are laughing at us and how we look at life through the eye of a niddle. Negligence and Accident are two different words with different meanings, An accident can happen because of negligence of another person, in other words if you do something which causes the accident You are responsible for the accident happening by your actions wrong or right. Look at the big picture, the victim was a passenger on a boat captained by Mr. Amour and was accidentally killed by the same boat while under the command of Mr Amour. Its the court who has to decide weather he was negligent or not, not on DNO and certainly not in Lagoon. When a drunk driver accidentally killed a public works employee on goodwill road, wasnt he arrested on the spot ? Tell me, how do we sleep at nights in DA ?

    • LANGSAL
      May 10, 2013

      manslaghter is unintentionally causing the death of someone… charge is correct.
      what is disturbing is the way the defendant was handled by the court and police…
      magistrate ajourned court and went to police headquarters and released, no terms and conditions known… i bet this guy never even sat in a cell like poor people does…
      when these things happen we know politicans are involved… then again he is an amour and his wife is a royer from vielle case….

      POOR PEOPLE WHEN POLICE ARREST ALLU JUST ASK FOR DE ANDREW AMOUR TREATMENT.

  47. St.john Mingo
    May 9, 2013

    My dear people this was the same way the Christ got crucified.No one did nothing to help.I believe it was an accident but no one went forward and give a statement to say what they saw to clear mr.ARMOUR Now you all are troubled and feel guilty.ALL the family was asking is ,was she pushed was she fell or was it an accident.then everything would have been over by now.Blame yourselves for mr. Armour being arrested because you remain silent

    • budman
      May 10, 2013

      This was the same way the Christ got crucified??? really? 8-O

    • true
      May 10, 2013

      LOL

  48. Darwin.
    May 9, 2013

    This is not a case of weather we love Andrew or not, this is a case of JUTICE ! Judging from the bulk of the comments, this is a word which we love to hate in Dominica. We doh like it, and this is why all them other cases languishing and disparetting in our court system. No one is above the law not even the PM, everyone must be held accountable even if It is an accident. Accidents dont just happen by themselves not even freak accidents. People when you are the Captain of a Passenger vessel, this is a very big responsibility. God forbid you should accidentally kill one of your passengers with the vessel. What next ? The Captain should have been arrested the same time and the boat confiscated by police. this is standard world wide, if that was done then It would not haveto be done now. All the family is asking, and i suport them 100% they lost their child, is why wasnt the Captain arrested ?. Andrew is my dog but he lapsed and he should have known as a Captain for umptin yrs. The reason why all this happen is because the Family through their lawyers all the way in America and locally put pressure on our justice system after six months of no update from our police, then they jump and arrest today. If this ting reach fox there will be no cruise ships next season. What can ordinary Dominicans like GON and the rest use to blackmail our own justice system ?

    • smh
      May 9, 2013

      he should have known what? It was an ACCIDENT. Google the word accident or pick up your dictionary. It seems you’re saying that he has to take responsibility for what transpired whether it was an accident or not-which is understandable as unfortunate as it it. But the point is he doesn’t have eyes all around the boat. He did not see her–which is why it is termed an accident! So regardless of being a captain from the day Noah walked the earth to now, what every you are implying he should have known for umpteenth years could not have prevented an ACCIDENT! You have some very valid points but come on man!

    • teacher junior
      May 9, 2013

      my thoughts exactly

    • philme
      May 9, 2013

      well said my boy they know it was coming Dominicans think you should not pay for accident welcome to the USA

    • Marla
      May 10, 2013

      Darwin next time use spell check pal

    • same
      May 10, 2013

      valid point.
      its like if the person is well liked, the person shouldn’t be charged

    • Lilly
      May 10, 2013

      thank you for being a voice of reason. I wonder, how many ppl here if they get knocked down by a vehicle, suffered a broken limb and herniated discs, and therefore continually suffer immensely from the pain, have huge out of pocket medical bills will just agree, “well, the driver did not see me as he was backing up, so therefore, I will just eat the pain and suffering costs among other things, because it was an accident.” Nope, if you’ve been there, you seek compensation and fight for it! (I have and won my case even though it was an ‘accident.’ The driver was negligent in the operation of his vehicle, hence, the accident!).

      But some here are arguing for the parents to simply suffer the loss of their daughter – her life, potential, and future – and walk away because it was an accident! It may very well have been, but we are all responsible for the choices we make – intentional or accidental. Let the courts decide the penalty to be paid (if there is one to be paid), that’s what they are there for. Now plz don’t begin a discussion about the efficiency of the courts in DA, that’s not my point.

  49. teacher junior
    May 9, 2013

    I thought it was mandatory that the police arrest and charge anyone responsible for causing the death of another.
    We cry that the police were pressured by U.S attorneys; but would we prefer the girl’s family go to CNN so that the likes of Piers Morgan could ruin our tourism industry?

    • Distured
      May 10, 2013

      tsk tsk tsk…. sigh. If you accidentally killed some1, what song would you be singing?

      You have no resolve, that’s why you easily agree with morals you don’t understand fully.

      Did he aim the girl down? Did he purposefully move his boat in order to wipe her existence clean? Ask yourselves these questions. =_=”

    • LANGSAL
      May 10, 2013

      you would call that nonsense an arrest…

    • Jay
      May 11, 2013

      It would not be Piers Morgan ruining our tourist industry. Judging by the comments we are quite capable of doing that ourselves. Wasn’t it our own late Prime Minister Pierre Charles, who said that we wear ignorance as a badge of honour?

  50. Dominican away
    May 9, 2013

    It has been five months since that accident took place and only now the police is arresting mr. Armour. What a shame. I wonder if her parents know that arresting mr. Amour will not bring their daughter back home to them. Sometimes youmjust have to live things for God to work them out. Seeing a man go to prison for something that was not done intentionally is so sad. Mr. Armour you do not know me but if you ar reading the blogs i want you to do one thing for me put your tust in God and not man. Sir i have seen God get people out of bigger messes than yours; so hold on to God’s unchanging hands and he will see ou though. Pepole need to sop this eye for an eye thing. Sometimes you just have to go on living and see past the sorrow. Sir i will be praying from all the way across the waters for you and he girl’s family. God bless you and hem. Take this with you. Isaiah: 54: 17 and Ps: 91.

  51. jobe
    May 9, 2013

    firstly, the police never open a case because they never saw it fit. Its a human being that got ran over not a dog so the law should be educated on how to handle these situration and don’t take everything for granted. Always remember proper training gives proper guidlines

  52. May 9, 2013

    American like their own way to much.when american do a crime in another country they never do it but when is the other way around it a different story, take the Amanda knox story a white American walk free and the arubian man they want to crucify him.wake up my ppl America are for America

    • philme
      May 9, 2013

      JUSTICE! that’s all they want

    • :-(
      May 10, 2013

      Is true… look at the case of Amanda Knox in Spain or Italy wherever she kill that British girl….she back in the U.S enjoying life

  53. wow
    May 9, 2013

    UM. “JUSTICE” for an obvious accident? are these people kidding me.

    • Big- bannan
      May 10, 2013

      Get out of the box that you’re in and you’ll realize losing a child over sorry is not good enough and not a joke either.

  54. truth offends
    May 9, 2013

    I feel very sorry for both Mr. Armour and the family of Casey-Ann Schulman. While I do believe it was a very sad accident, we also have to understand the family of Ms. Schuman who was just 22. I do hope the authourities use this as a learning tool and draw a line between beach and boating. By this I mean, no boats should pass close to where people are having fun on the beach.
    While I am very sorry for Mr. Armour, I am happy that someone could pressure the police and government to stand for justice because we are plagued with far too many cases of injustice in Dominica these days, as if we are a country with no law and no constitution. It really had to take an American to pressure them to act. I hope the authorities will take a page from this American family, and serve justice to those who wickedly attempted to burn both Mr & Mrs. Mano to death on a Christmas morning. Dominica is just too small and to slow to allow these things to happen and up to today, no one has been brought to justice. Once again, I am very sorry for both Mr. Armour and the family of the young student. However, I cannot blame the family for going all out to seek justice for their daughter.

  55. faceup
    May 9, 2013

    I think that his boat and pilot license should be taken away temperarily, until further notice !

  56. faceup
    May 9, 2013

    Andrew, pay those peeps what they looking for, remember they are working with a blank check, they will get you and hurt our loving country through slander.

  57. SoFla
    May 9, 2013

    Negligent homicide…maybe….was a toxicology screen conducted on the female victim? If I know DA police etc a proper investigation was NOT conducted and I would hate to see D/ca succumb to pressure from the US a nation doing nothing to assist DA in its spiral into reliance on questionable governments, the US have all but turned its back. Why then are we crumbling to this pressure for an arrest and a lawsuit. How many of our own people have died on our own soil and no justice in the form of intentional homicide nor accidental homicide have the perpetrators been charged with. I feel for the victims family and I’m sorry for their loss, a lawsuit for negligence in causing her death, I can accept that, she died, he was in control of the vessel which killed her. I certainly DO NOT expect a conviction in this matter and will be dearly suspect if there is as we’ve shown so many incidences where known deliberate acts have gone without punishment.

    Sorry to the families involved.

    • Distured
      May 10, 2013

      Agreed.

  58. T mama
    May 9, 2013

    So sorry all this happened and is happening…be strong Andrew and pray alot….

  59. news
    May 9, 2013

    The parents will be on CNN, NBC and ABC soon enough telling their story.

  60. me
    May 9, 2013

    I sympathy with the young woman family but I feel sad for Armour this was an accident. Yes its sad they loss their daughter the only one who could have prevented it was God. Mr Armour you know in your heart it was an accident leave it to God.

    • philme
      May 9, 2013

      what God have to with this? JUSTICE!

    • Malgraysa
      May 11, 2013

      Maybe that is why many Dominicans do not think it necessary to take out insurance for their vehicle.
      After all, and accident is an accident and nobody is responsible.Try and explain that to the rental company next time you wan to rent a car and tell them it is not necessary to pay for insurance cover.

  61. LCM
    May 9, 2013

    He should only be arrested and charge if there was any evidence that he deliberately did somthing to hurt the young lady and there were alot of witnesses who can testify to that. To do that the prosecutor will have to prove that it has not been the first time he had such accidents and he had been repeatedly warned. I can probably see criminal negligence but not manslaughter. I think he was aressted just to please the family and off course he will be tried. Accidents happen all over the world and there are boating accidents everywhere. The problem is i do not trust our justice system cause we have proven to be a joke in the past and i am afraid would not stand a chance with high profile lawyers.

    • Anonymous
      May 10, 2013

      He should be arrested and charged if there is evidence that he committed a crime. Not every crime requires proof that he deliberately did it.

  62. life
    May 9, 2013

    Mr Armour has been in this business for many years, it was an accident he would have never done it in error. I am betting if he knew that the young lady was in the water he would have moved out. Some people say that his license was expired, so that he should be charged for and not man slaughter. Americans go to Iraq, Afghanistan and kill innocent people every day, every year and nothing is being done, but if someone hurts one of them they want to crucify the world till they get their way. #only God knows#

    • life
      May 9, 2013

      done it on purpose I meant to type

  63. Doc. Love
    May 9, 2013

    They all know the untimely death of Miss Schulman was an accident. GON Emanuel and his wife which were almost burnt alive was no accident,where is the manslaughter charge.The death of nurse Dyrample’s son was no accident,where is the manslaughter charge. The shooting of the vagrant at the Covent School was no accident, where is the manslaghter charge. If this action by the police is genuine,we hope in time to come,the perpetrators of these heinous crimes will be found and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

    • Anonymous
      May 10, 2013

      That is something you need to take up with the justice system of dominica -the police etc

  64. 4progress
    May 9, 2013

    Accident or not, the case should have been brought before a Judge and Jury, to ensure all the evidence and witness testimony are presented and thus a verdict reached. Justice for all concerned must be seen to have been done. Anything else is just noise

  65. I'm Just Saying
    May 9, 2013

    AYLASSSS!!! :( :( :(

  66. C
    May 9, 2013

    This is sad, I think the problem in Dominica is health and safety regulations are pretty much non-existent… I suppose in America, they would have separate areas in the waters where scuba diving/snorkeling is allowed that have restrictions for boating. Or if there is a scuba diving group out on the water, they have signs on the boat that spread caution that people are in the water diving… in the same way they would put a cone on the road if there is a problem on the roads. I feel very sorry for this man and of course for the young lady and her family but it is very obvious that this was simply a tragic accident… maybe we can learn from the incident and improve safety and training..

  67. dominican
    May 9, 2013

    Ignorance gets us NOOOO where. If they had from the beginning show a bit more concern, respect, and even attempt to show that they care, to the family and make them realize that it was an accident, instead of the authority ignoring their calls may have turned out differently. But then again in DA they think your last name carry you through anything. I hope they put this on the map so DA can wake the hell up

    • philme
      May 10, 2013

      that’s how we Dominicans I almost got kill 6 years in Dominica it cost me $90.00US in med bills

    • Truth Prevails
      May 10, 2013

      YOU HAVE IT ALL WRONG. Go through the archives of DNO news and you will see that the Armour family and event the PM reached out to the deceased family sincerely apologizing for the unfortunate accident. Do not be so quick to judge and classify us Dominicans as heartless. THIS WAS CLEARLY AN ACCIDENT AND WE ALL KNOW THEY ARE JUST DOING THIS TO GET A LARGE SUM OF MONEY. OPEN YOUR EYES AND READ THESE PEOPLE WELL WITH THE LIES THEY ARE COOKING UP. STAND FOR DOMINICA AND LET TRUTH PREVAIL.

      • Truth Prevails
        May 10, 2013

        correction, “even” and not “event…

      • I am Dominica.
        May 10, 2013

        Doh stand up for me Papa, if is that you standing up for, you will fall for anything but not for any body. I stand for law and order, justice must be blind and not blind folded. Go to the Ministerial building and purchase a copy of the constitution. It should be free but i think they charge 2 bucks. Read and understand the constitution and you will see what I want you to stand up for when you standing for me because I am Dominica.

  68. bryan
    May 9, 2013

    this is a sad time for both family.don’t matter what is the out come in court one family will be hurt.and this is no time for politics or money status tasteless comments.this is people lives who has lost or about to loose their freedom.this is serious.lets just hope for the best.cause these things can happen to anyone of us,whether by accident or somethings else.lets just pray for both families to get peace.

  69. "O" STRESS"
    May 9, 2013

    SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Allow the process to take its course. SMFH, Win, Loose or Draw, both parties, are hurting. But allow the process to take its course, my DUMMYNICANS. WMF.

  70. Berekua
    May 9, 2013

    Well uncle Sam Don’t mess around when it comes to its citizens. A little pressure here and there, goes a long way.

  71. Plain Truth
    May 9, 2013

    The problem is do not surprise if the Americian government as to extradite you. Dominicans have signed their death warrant to extradite any person that harm an American on their soil or elsewhere in Caribbean, so that is when you all put tourist above your people, that is what happens. The always believe the law is for poor people. :twisted:

  72. me
    May 9, 2013

    hello,what nonesense dat, are there not enough crime happening in DA for police to make an arrest? so many families are looking for justice in Dominica: the Drigo’s of possie, brasso, rosemay and her family, anderson’s mom, the GON Emmanuels, the young boys from stoockfarm area and much more i cant remember… if it was in american that accident had happened would there be an arrest? NO! nobody woudnt even hear about it. so why is Mr. Armour being prosecuted? i can understand he should be made to answer questions because someone died but please…. because alu getting pressured by americans? I believe the hotel association should be standing with Mr. Armour

    • philme
      May 10, 2013

      yes there be an arrest and just to let you know is Americans paying his bills

  73. South Beach FL
    May 9, 2013

    The Authorities in Dominica have you be careful.
    Big Bro is watching closely…

    Folks in Dominica need to understand the force and Under currents of Big Bro..

    It’s a accident but Big Bro is known for going after Cases all over the globe once it’s pertaining to it’s own flock..

    the Tourism product is almost bearing farewell to Dominica,Big Bro could place a vice grip on it..

  74. nature Girl
    May 9, 2013

    This was definitely an accident that would have happened in seconds! Yet the devastation for the parents losing Casey-Ann and for Andrew Armor who would never have meant this terrible accident to happen. This is very, very disturbing as it will be affecting Andrew and his family for the rest of their lives. Andrew has to live every second of every day knowing that he was at the helm of the boat when Casey-Ann sustained her fatal wounds. In a way I think that is punishment enough. Perhaps Andrew could and should now set out to see that boating accidents like this never occur again in Dominica and around the world via the Interbet by letting people know how to prevent them, maybe Andrew could actually do some good and have a foundation for safety here on Dominica. There are no life-guards in Dominica there is no safety anywhere for people who get into trouble on the seashore. I started a life saving programme in Antigua when I rescued a young man from the sea at Jaberwouk beach he was kite surfing and his leg had broken above the knee in four different places. I was lucky enough to there and able to swim to him and save him. They to this day have life saving in Antigua. Come on Andrew do something positive and good luck.

  75. TRUEMAN
    May 9, 2013

    *****ARE WE CRAZY??

    I really think some of us are crazy in this country.

    The family of “Casey-Ann Schulman” is only asking for justice. “JUSTICE”……… for the death of their daughter!!!!

    I can’t remember reading anywhere that Casey’s family wanted anything other than justice/rule of law to be applied!!

    I’m seeing many of us almost angry and condeming Ms. Schulman family for wanting justice?? What is wrong with us in this country!!!

    Maybe some of us don’t care about justice but there are people out there who do!!

    Whatever justice/rule of law might be applicable to this accident then let it be.

    I would like to think that we would like the same justice for our LOVED one should we ever be in such a situation like the Schulman.

    *What laws were broken if any!
    *who else is at fault!

    Now, we are all SAD for both families BUT let’s not get carried away with emotions and start sending insults to either families.

    Andrew Armour should get a fair trial but so should Casey-Ann Schulman.

    This was an ACCIDENT….SADLY but thats no reason to delete the rule of law!!

    With all accidents comes “ACCOUNTABILITY”.

    Some of us “RANT” like we were there on that fateful day!!!!

    -I WAS NOT THERE!!
    -WERE YOU?
    -MAYBE SOME OF YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN THERE!

    Then if you were, then tell it to the court! If you were not there then, it’s best to keep an open mind and let justice/rule of law prevail!

    When the rule of law prevails, we all WIN. Because you never know when you or your family will be in need of JUSTICE!!

    -Thanks

    • smh
      May 9, 2013

      and what do you define as justice? Money?
      Getting him arrested and charging him for man slaughter isn’t considered justice? What do you think they have in mind when they say they want justice? A piece of land in d/ca?
      sakway sot

    • philme
      May 10, 2013

      well said thank you

    • ...
      May 10, 2013

      finally some sense!

  76. Observer
    May 9, 2013

    When the big boys talk the Caribbean must obey. How sad for us. Courage brother.

  77. Castle Bruce
    May 9, 2013

    What a hypocritical country. What happen to all the talk about it was an accident and the parent thanked whoever for their help. We are a reactive country and a people who fail to utilize common sense. We see nothing as serious and is laissezfaire about everything. If the family did not take action then nothing would have being done. Shame yet once again on our country .

  78. june prince
    May 9, 2013

    i worked with Andrew and his is a very nice man. manslaughter is a harsh sentence for an accident.

    thats totally not right.

  79. Dominican Abroad
    May 9, 2013

    Accidents happen and if he was negligent he should be charged with manslaughter but as for going to trial in America, that’s Bull.

    Dominica is an independent country and he should be tried where they accident took place. Do you think they will return Amanda Knox to to Italy to face retrial over the death of a black girl?

  80. june prince
    May 9, 2013

    i worked with Andrew and is a nice man. manslaughter is a harsh sentence for an accident.

    thats totally not right.

  81. 21 dominican female
    May 9, 2013

    so sad….so unfortunate. but its nice to see so many understanding people. im sure the family will be grateful to the public when reading these comments (if they ever do)

    • Khanic
      May 9, 2013

      YOUR ARE another unfortunate labourite all of your days are numbered

      workers!

  82. Huh!!
    May 9, 2013

    So pressure working one way!!! The pressure for Mano not hot enough!! Is americans all you do fraid. Fire bun you people!! Everyone deserves justice. Not only an american student who died in an unfortunate accident but also two senior citizens who were almost murdered!!

  83. old man
    May 9, 2013

    because iz a american the case moving .if it was a dominican then they would throw the case and say is a accident.sancre

  84. kuba
    May 9, 2013

    are we saying if i am driving my car and kill somebody that was innocently crossing the street and because of my lack of consideration for pedestrian (driving over the speed limit)and kill that person should i go free.

  85. kevin
    May 9, 2013

    they have money they can compensate the American girl family ………IF A CIVIL SUIT IS FILED.

  86. Possie NYC
    May 9, 2013

    OMG!! This was an accident. Why are these Americans being so ugly. The Dominca Police force ruled her death an accident. Why does her family have so much power that this man was charged? We complain about white people looking down on we black people but we still continue to make ourselves slaves to them. I feel sorry for their lost buy my god, they are being evil right now. Accidents Do happen,Even in America and with American Companies. Tell the look Carnival Cruise ship looking for people that may fallen of the ship. They can’t blame the captain for the irresponsibility of others….this is some BULL!!! Andrew..God is not a police…You will come out better and stronger from this!!

    • philme
      May 10, 2013

      What are you talking about?

  87. May 9, 2013

    An accident occurred costing a person her life and her family grief. It is possible that Andrew did not even know the young woman was in the water. Wonder why she was in the water, was she drunk or just enjoying herself? The burden of PROOF is on the part of the victim’s family. I have children, and would like to know what happened; however, if Andrew is innocent JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL. If he is found guilty of negligence JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL. I hope that he is found innocent of the charges against him, I hope he is really not at fault. We should hold our heads high and not ALLOW ANYONE regardless of their nationality or their wealth derail JUSTICE.

  88. Close family friend
    May 9, 2013

    Andrew I am really sorry this happened. In life we make some drastic errors which can be quite stressful and cause us pain after a while. Just hope and pray that this is resolved in an amicable way because we know how these Americans can react to situations like these. It is unfortunate what happened, it is unfortunate about their daughter but remember Jesus Christ can assist greatly in this stressful time that you and your family are now going through. This could happen to the best of skilled persons in their field. So hang in there and pray for the best….

  89. Anonymous
    May 9, 2013

    I hope he gets bail because this was not a wilful act.

    • Jay
      May 11, 2013

      Read the article again! it clearly says that he got bail!!

  90. wheelchair lady
    May 9, 2013

    Was this a student from the semester at sea? Dem children WILD!

  91. May 9, 2013

    I would like to know if there were safety measures in place to indicate theirs divers or what so ever in the water if not the family of the decease will sue the government of Dominica,the accuser could set free,because lack of safety measures in Dominica,similar our roads no signs most dangerous areas to warn the public.

  92. View Point
    May 9, 2013

    I suffer with Andrew and his family. How unfortunate. Andrew knows what happpened and I agree with another blogger that he would never ever deliberately run the boat over the young lady. On the charge of manslaughter he stands a good chance of avoiding prison. However, Andrew’s and the Armour family’s troubles have just begun. They would have been alredy advised I am sure that this manslaughter charge is a prelude to a civil law suit for negligence and claims of damages that the Americans will eventually file. Not if but when. No doubt about that. When an American sue they usually ask for head and soul. Sometimes out of this world. Let us pray that his legal team will be able to get a local trial here and not in the American court system. I wish Andrew well. Take courage my friend.

    • Distured
      May 10, 2013

      If I were him, i wud shut the business down and re open under a new name, and new owner (family memeber). :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

  93. Skeptic
    May 9, 2013

    This is is just a sad :( situation for all parties inolved. It was an acident, yet still a life was lost. I am sure having to deal with this is a ‘punishment’ inself for Mr. Amour. However, he is not above the law of the land. I sincerly wish all those involved the very best.

  94. Greg
    May 9, 2013

    Let’s keep it real here folks. If the Dominican authourities did not arrest Armour there would be fallout from the U.S. If no action was taken you could bet that Fox, CNN and the others would carry headline stories like this: No justice in the Caribbean island of Dominica’- well that might not be all too bad because they may highlight the GON Emanuel’s travesty as well. But also the Tourism which the goverment is banking on would be crippled.

  95. %
    May 9, 2013

    An American citizen is involved. Had there been no arrest we would be made to feel the pressure in some other way. They are concerned about their citizens,so therefore this is not a surprise to me.I feel for the Armour family, since this was purely accidental.
    What about others like the one with the 43 charges of criminal misconduct?
    Those who gutted the home of GON EMMANUEL on Christmas Day 2010.
    Those who were involved in the BIN BOBOL?
    The thing that hurt us most in Dominica is when it appears that some people are ABOVE THE LAW.
    OH MY!

  96. question
    May 9, 2013

    accidents like this happen every day and every where in the world, tourists who are diving, snorkeling and people on speed boats and dinghies, those who are on jet skies and so on, wanting justice for the lost of some one who died in an accident is not the same as some one who was brutally murdered, my prayer are with you Sir and my sympathy with the victim of this unfortunate accident

  97. wowo
    May 9, 2013

    I feel for Andrew, however, there was gross negligent on his part. I am not judging him but the girl need justice, for heaven sake she lost her life. Mr. Andrew is still living. It was an accident so he does not necessary have to go to jail but at least compensate the family.

  98. responsibility
    May 9, 2013

    Very sad. I agree he did not set out to kill the young woman but you know what? something must be done in Dominica for business owners and others to take responsibility for their action and most of all to have the customer’s best interest at heart. it is all about making money from the customers and most times, the safety and well being of the customer is never taken into consideration. For examples most if not all doctors in dominica, make money from their patient and most times is trial and error they perform on patient. they do not see it fit to invest in mondernized equipments and improve on thier technology to give the customers their money worth. they operate on patients, make all kind of careless errors that sometimes even results in death and at the end of it, nothing happens, the doctor continues to practice and make money from patients without even trying to improve on thier mistakes.

    Drivers drive passengers, sometimes without liscense and insurance, accident happen, and most times the penalty is basically nothing while people lose thier life or get seriously injured.
    I can continue to go on and on….

    it is high time some persons are made to take responsibility for their action so they will think twice of what is best for not only themself but for the customers who are paying for a service and expect the best.

  99. bee bee
    May 9, 2013

    wow tomuch infor people just chill.

  100. Anonymous
    May 9, 2013

    wow to much infor people just chill.

  101. Anonymous
    May 9, 2013

    Mr. Armour, Be strong through this moment of trial. The Almighty is a just God, and so he will see you through. I have no doubt that this was an accident, it pains me to know that the value placed on American lives are much higher than that of people from less developed countries. We are all equal in the Almighty’s eyes. The message from this is that we need each other, the Caribbean needs to be a unified force. We need to demand our place in society as people of color. We must stop bashing each other unnecessarily, stop suffering from inferiority complex. We are humans of equal value as any other. Mr. Armour you will be exonerated. My advise, call on the Almighty at least three times a day, he will answer you. Blessed Love!

  102. eyes to see
    May 9, 2013

    this case is ridiculousness is true that it is not the first time that this has happened in Dominica and case law will prevail under liability law (negligence)… otherwise there is no chance that they will be successful. the authorities must study this case closely and stand by our citizens…

    and DNO you should confirm if Andrew is still in charge as far as i know he is no longer in charge since one year. such an error could compromise this case and the credibility of the hotel.

  103. sandy
    May 9, 2013

    alas andrew has provided jobs for personsl. rather unfortunate. well life is hard

  104. Anonymous
    May 9, 2013

    This is hard I understand all the feelings out there on all the cases that the police are ignoring. This case is very sensitive, the family are putting pressure and thus the police have charged most likely govt sees it necessary to do to ensure that our tourism product is not negatively affected more than it already has been. In cases like this sometimes it is good to just let the matter go to court let the facts be heard and the jury give a verdict. Andrew I am sure that you will be vindicated and the family will feel like they got justice. The pain will never go away for them but again they are just seeking justice for unanswered questions. GON Emanuel will never get his day in court though !!!!!!!!!!!!

  105. FED UP
    May 9, 2013

    Finally! The wheels of justice move slowly in Dominica – but at least they are moving.

    • JIM
      May 9, 2013

      Slowly? The wheels of justice is stationary in Dominica, except for the poor man.

    • Mr , Gouty
      May 9, 2013

      Dominican we should give Mr. Andrew Armour our full support and by the way what is manslaughter.

      • Ignorance Is Bliss!
        May 10, 2013

        you have a computer to comment – so use it to educate yourself.

        Papa met!

    • Yay
      May 9, 2013

      Stupid. Allu Dominicans not easy to hate allu own so. An accident. Go n die in America in an accident, too bad u would not be there o see the wheels of justice turn.

    • cohenval
      May 9, 2013

      Which will of justice? It was an accident. It would be interesting to to see the data on the number of persons that have been arrested and charged for man laughter because of death caused by reckless driving, in Dominica. It just pressure from the US State Department. Poor us in Dominica. Nou pa vos enien.

    • Justice and Truth
      May 9, 2013

      Do not be quick in your judgment. We have not yet heard his side of the story.

    • Distured
      May 10, 2013

      fool

  106. hallie berrie
    May 9, 2013

    Only in Dominica. The parents had to to threaten legal action before the police could make an arrest and charge. if the parents kept silent, the death would go unnotice.

    whether is a joseph, a smith, a laurent, a baptiste, a jno baptiste, an armour, an offence was committed and the person should be tried before the court of law.

    so the person or persons that know the family so well and how he is dis and dat, the law is not for one set of people. the law is for all of us.

  107. ArAb
    May 9, 2013

    NONESENSE!!!!!!!

  108. gosh
    May 9, 2013

    They want justice fine, but I think manslaughter ….yeah it was an accident but, I don’t know…gosh

    • Soldier
      May 9, 2013

      Manslaughter is in the third degree or unintentional death. Educate yourself

  109. Hustler...
    May 9, 2013

    you’re talking abut a “young ,white ,female American” ofcourse they’re gonna take action .look what happened in Aruba the last time something white girl lost her life they shut down an entire island lucky this hasn’t been on CNN yet. sorry to say but he’s fate is sealed smh

    • Bounty
      May 9, 2013

      @Hustler. I wouldn’t jump to that conclusion. This is different from the Aruba situation. This was a genuine accident. When it happened poor Andrew did not even know that it happened. As a human being you turn your head for a moment and $hit hppens. That’s what is called an accident. So “justice”? Do you think Andrew has had a proper restful night since?

  110. really
    May 9, 2013

    When willpower dominica seek justice for its citizens who are on trial in other countries. In jail or who are suffering in one waay or another. We need to look for our own. The next step is they want him tried on their soil…. Will ee let him go. Just my two sense.

    • tell me
      May 9, 2013

      When two dominicans were killed last year in Antigua amd tortola, did we hear the grand fond families calling for justice

      • Anonymous
        May 9, 2013

        Why don’t ask family directly

      • FLORIDA
        May 9, 2013

        When you have money…..money TALK and JUSTICE follows. When one does not seek justice the case
        goes dead cold, or maybe you just accept it. Americans don’t play when it comes to their people much less a high profile family.

        If it was an accident, then, take it to the court. Dominicans don’t have money to higher profile lawyers and the girl father is a JUDGE….

      • faceup
        May 9, 2013

        Grandfond families dont have no money.

      • true
        May 10, 2013

        why didn’t they, that is their business and their choosing, but that does not make the pain any less for them

  111. hmmm
    May 9, 2013

    this was an accident. americans are just too bad mind. the man would never deliberately kill the young woman knowing how this would have affected his life, business and the lives of others. i am sorry for both mr amor and the parents of the young woman. they are both in pain at this moment…

    • Anonymous
      May 9, 2013

      They are charging him with manslaughter and not murdEr because it was an accident. Its the same as someone driving over a pedestrian they did not see because they were carelesss.

    • Soldier
      May 9, 2013

      Yes but someone or company must be held responsible. If you died in a bus accident, someone must be held responsible and charged. It’s the law! be educated.

    • KoKo Naughts
      May 9, 2013

      Hmmmm the discussion of manslaughter is a real touchy subject, but the people in the US are used to the fact that accidental killing is almost always charged as manslaughter. So doh blame them. The accused will just be at the mercy of the jury who will no doubt know it’s an accidental killing.

    • Anonymous
      May 9, 2013

      That just might be the reason behind them charging him for manslaughter and not murder.

    • patriotic
      May 9, 2013

      if that were your child would you just agree it was an accident? let the court and jury decide.

  112. Table of contents
    May 9, 2013

    So many of our countrymen and women have died on american soil and elsewhere under strange and questionable circumstances.Someone please inform me of any action taken by the Dominica government or persons with money to pressure another goverment to take action.Why do we always tend to stoop(bow to pressure).Is it for the used machine guns and outdated equipment that the us hand down to police in d/a?

    • Anonymous
      May 9, 2013

      And your point is -maybe if he had had a valid license this might not have happened, maybe he did not pay attentionn,maybe maybe.Stoop down -no -take responsibility for your actions -and realise that improvements are needed.

    • Anonymous
      May 9, 2013

      Why is it stooping or bowing to pressure in this instance? So we have chosen not to try to apply pressure ourselves or to insist that the Government apply pressure when dominicans are hurt on american soil. Does that mean that someone else should make the same choice that we have in the past?

  113. The Truth
    May 9, 2013

    This is what true justice is about. Someone was killed. The death was not caused by a natural disaster. Somebody must be responsible for it even if it was an accident. Mr. Armour and the victims family deserve their day in court. If he was negligent then a decent fine would be appropriate. Dominicans need to learn to follow proper procedure. Just because someone is a good person does not mean they are not responsible for their actions. Can you imagine if someone accidentally ran down your child in a foreign country and the authorities did nothing! It is up to the courts to decide what if any penalty is due to Mr. Armour. He is not in jail, he is out on bail.

    I am so glad this happened, I think Dominicans are beginning to feel that they are above the law. The same thing should have happened with Sarah Lynn Augustine. Even if she did not mean to brutally murder her two children, she is still responsible and must have her day in court. The court is the one to decide if she should go free or if she was insane at the time. It seems the authorities are just taking things on a case by case basis based on emotions. This is not how you run a country or a criminal justice system. Not long ago I read about another dead baby found in bushes somewhere close to Grandbay. Has the mother been charged or are we just feeling sorry for her and don’t believe she deserves to be charged. Are there no laws in Dominica?

  114. Ignorance Is Bliss!
    May 9, 2013

    This is sad.

    Not sure why Dominicans are making light of the family’s grief.

    There is not irrefutable proof that he killed the girl. At the end of the day he was driving the boat that killed her and that is not disputeable. So finding evidence to support that is easier than finding the perp in the GON case.

    so to say that the cops did this one sa fast and left the big criminals seems pointless as this case is very much the proof is in the pudding. Gathering the “evidence for the charge” is way easier here than in the other cases.

    So be a little be more sensitive in the comments you guys make.

    Yes, all cases need to be solved but it should be expected that some will be solved sooner simply due to the evidence at hand.

  115. Confused
    May 9, 2013

    Manslaughter defined..The unjustifiable, inexcusable, and INTENTIONAL killing of a human being without deliberation, premeditation, and malice. The unlawful killing of a human being without any deliberation, which may be involuntary, in the commission of a lawful act without due caution and circumspection.

    .. I’m sure this guy had no intent of killing this woman. There may be some negligence issues, but I do believe it was an accident.

  116. C.G.F
    May 9, 2013

    Very unfortunate. We need to be more careful

  117. Table of contents
    May 9, 2013

    How about putting that effort into solving which one of them roseau bouj wa poured acid on dem three musicians fifty years ago in roseau in broad daylight infront of hundreds of spectators.

    • Anonymous
      May 9, 2013

      That has nothing what so ever to do with this -if you want answers Investigate .

    • Justice and Truth
      May 9, 2013

      Some of us have a fair knowledge who the culprits were. They are now all dead and have gone to their eternal judgment. One at least did not have a good end. The wheels of justice takes time especially for the guilty but in the end they do get what they deserve.
      I hope in time Armour will be vindicated.

      • Malgraysa
        May 11, 2013

        If you know w, who the culprits were why did you not speak up? You think confession alone absolves you from responsibility?

  118. ****
    May 9, 2013

    GON Emmanuel needs justice too and the person or persons charged with the 42 counts of fraud theft or money laundering and their accomplices should be arrested and charged too.

    • splendour
      May 9, 2013

      And de polis know who did and not making an arrest but they get pressure from uncle sam and those big shot lawyers so the chief reacting. How come up to now he cannot react when so many domincans calling for justice for the attempted murder of GON and his wife. This was an accident!!!

  119. lisad
    May 9, 2013

    Lord Please intervene in this situation. Bring peace to the hurting family but you know Lord that Mr. Armour is also hurting because of this horrific accident. strenghthen him and in this moment of despair for both families, please allow an amicable end so that both parties can find peace.

    • Anonymous
      May 9, 2013

      Amen and Amen! In His hand we should surrender all. Special prayers go up for both of the hurting families.

  120. Canadian
    May 9, 2013

    The police has so many outstanding issues including the fraudulent practice of the governing administration. Why dong they take this opportunity and act on the pressure that the people of Dominica is placing on them. The family of this young lady has right also but we must show respect to out nationals first and not outsiders. While I am for tourism I want to state accidents do happen.

    Andrew hold strong you have support from home and abroad.

    To my police service head. What is good for the goose good for the gander. Learn to be fair and let justice prevail for all. Don’t hide under the umbrella of political fools like you are doing

    The police service should be independent from the government Remember govt comes and goes.

    Concern citizen

    • looking in
      May 9, 2013

      So true…hopefuly the choice was made from evidence and not pressure. Awaiting to hear more results on pending high profile cases. My prayers to both families. No one should have to bury a child in so sad a manner but no family should lose a member due to an accident beyond their control. At times things occur that we cannot explain.

    • Distured
      May 10, 2013

      Thank you… whoever you are. Now i won’t have to terra-face your planet.

      I agree with this statement.

  121. stupes
    May 9, 2013

    Andrew all the way…to hell with America.

    • Malgraysa
      May 9, 2013

      Comments like these do not exactly encourage people to come and spend their money with us, do they? But since you are calling yourselve “Stupes” you may perhaps be forgiven.

    • Anonymous
      May 9, 2013

      Are you saying to hell with the family -all this family wants is justice -nothing more nothing less.

    • yaaa
      May 9, 2013

      because you cannot get a visa? LOL

      • stupes
        May 10, 2013

        ur fool I just jet ten yrs. and so wat if they did not renew it …to hell we them

  122. Annoyed
    May 9, 2013

    DNO that’s the best photo you chose to put there? SMH…accidents happen come on!!! Manslaughter? That’s something else. HOLD STRONG MR. ARMOUR

    • Anonymous
      May 9, 2013

      What is manslaughter? Try to understand that. Saying that it was an accident doesn’t mean it wasn’t manslaughter. They would not have charged him with that offence if they didn’t believe that they could establish that it committed.

  123. Anthony P. Ismael
    May 9, 2013

    Accidents do happen. I will wait for the courts and accident investigators to make their final determination.
    Meanwhile, murders continue to walk free, but others are quickly rounded up for their day in court. Only in Dominica.

    • me
      May 9, 2013

      Quickly almost 6 months is quick if he was not an Armour would it have taken that long ?

    • Cutie
      May 9, 2013

      Not Dominica all over

  124. ****
    May 9, 2013

    Mr.Armour I feel for you..but the young lady lost her life …. hence your charge and arrest..But I am very disturbed by the fact that a number of “gros bouges”(big boys)in Dominica like those lawyers,politicians and big surnamed folks who commit all sorts of crime and get away scot free.Anyway give your problem to God and he will see you through!

    • %
      May 9, 2013

      Because of the failed institution on island called ‘The POlice’.

  125. ....................
    May 9, 2013

    MWEOOOOOOOOW we supporting Andrew!

  126. May 9, 2013

    Americans doesn’t play nor waste time. see so long neil karam awaiting justice from that motor vehicular accident. hmmmmm

    • Soldier
      May 9, 2013

      Great point!
      But his parents and family need to put pressure on the authorities to charge the driver! FYI, it would also be manslaughter.

  127. hmmm
    May 9, 2013

    I hope it wasn’t all that ‘pressure’ that caused the charge.. hold strong Andrew cause accidents do happen.

  128. Anonymous
    May 9, 2013

    Manslaughter means someone’s death is a direct result of someone else’s actions. Will see if this applies to this case.

    • Dorival John
      May 9, 2013

      Manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without malice or premeditation, either express or implied.

      Hence Armour did not intend to kill the victim but she actually died.

      Even though it is an accident, a human being is dead and there should be some legal recourse.

      • Hmmmm....
        May 9, 2013

        But it would be nice if there was a bit more consistency in the application of justice. There are many long standing cases that have not made the way to full and proper attention of the Police or the courts in such “quick” time.

      • Bounty
        May 9, 2013

        @Dorival. In one way, I agree with you. But in the other way, I consider that human beings are dying all over the place all the time but that does not make another human being culpable in every case. So your ‘legal recourse’ conclusion gives me cause for pause. America is a great country but not every American custom should have our automatic support.

      • Looking in
        May 9, 2013

        I totally agree. I see no reason why the family should not seek justice. Whether is Andrew Armour or someone else, the justice system should decide the outcome according to the evidence.
        I am sure if a man is driving down the road, run over someone else and that person died…yep..we would say it was an accident, but the driver should be brought to justice, for he took a life…intentionally or not.c’est la mem chose!!

  129. May 9, 2013

    Huh, Uncle Sam asking for justice..accidents do happen but keep in mind we are dealing with an American,
    But I believe they are looking for monetary compensation more than Justice…. Sad

    • @kems ...I agree
      May 9, 2013

      I certainly agree. I guess as time has passed the families are thinking in their minds (typical americans) that they need some sort of monetary compensation where the death of their daughter is concerned. I am betting it will come to that. It’s unfortunate the way their child died but it will be even more unfortunate that they are looking for money from this. Let us wait and SEE!!!…

    • (.) (.)
      May 9, 2013

      I strongly believe your statement.

    • Justice and Truth
      May 9, 2013

      And how they love money! It is habitual with them. They love to sue. No heart!

  130. CIA on the Watch
    May 9, 2013

    Thought Mr Armour with his level of experience would be more careful in not sailing so close to persons occupying the beach for a swim

    • haw
      May 9, 2013

      It is you dat always fighting for OU KAR TO JU THOUGHT.

      What are you doing with your time?

  131. Pundit
    May 9, 2013

    I hope this is not politically driven.

  132. john Danstror
    May 9, 2013

    I know Mr. Armour very well. Andrew Armour is however NOT the proprietor of Anchorage Hotel, his parents are and Armour estate thereto is. I would be grateful that DNO would edit this story and or issue an apology. What about the issue of bail and what he was charged for. A source close to the courts and always reliable says it is for manslaughter. It has also been reported on the national radio station as being so.

    I know the Armour Family and I also know the pain which the student’s family is going through. It was an accident and the court will decide. I detest the use and abuse this medium as a tool to take Political shots at Andrew and this very distinguished Armour Family .
    But this is all I need to say. I lend full support to Andrew as a young entrepreneur in Dominica. He is not perfect and likewise all of us is with sin and will have his days in court.

    • llllllllllllllllllll
      May 9, 2013

      What is your point ? ! Why all you don’t stay away from out internal affairs. What workers do allu ?

    • 767
      May 9, 2013

      Distinguished? Aren’t we all distinguished in our own right!?!? And no need for an apology. Whether he owns it or his parents owns it is irrelevant. What’s important is the issues brought up against him.

      • Distured
        May 10, 2013

        actually, that changes everything… They want something from him that he doesnt own… hahahah.

        I’m going to watch this case carefully now…

    • Dominica
      May 9, 2013

      John Danstror DNO information came from police reports. This information was according to Police PRO Inspector John Carbon, so call him and ask to correct it!

    • american
      May 9, 2013

      @john Danstror – “all of us is not perfect” really? i know the family of the young lady very well. and no family have to lost a child like that.

      would you please put yourself in the position of the crying mother and father of this child? would like to explain to me how it was a accident when you were not there? is it right for the Andrew Armour to just treat this accident like it was a dream?

      we won’t stop until we get justice. it does not matter how distinguished the family is, they were not given power to take lives.

      so Mr. John – get out of your high horse, back down to reality. think not only of the “Armour” as your God but the grieving famil who is now living without their precious child.

      • joan
        May 10, 2013

        american, only God can judge…….and yes, the family is very distinguished. and yes, the family is greiving, i would die if one of my children died this way…but u must also wait till u hear the facts. sometimes as parents , when we hurt we want to lash out and blame everyone else, yes, mr armour can be charged with being negligent, but knowing the gentleman, I know that he is most diligent in his work. maybe there should be guidelines on how close the boat should have been to shore …maybe, maybe…but Andrew armour is NOT a murderer..as a matter of fact if this young woman or any other were in distress he would be the first to dive into the sea and attemt to help. Everyone knows the kids were drinking excessively….as most do when out of parental control….I am sure he had no idea that this young woman was under the boat. I have been on his boat quite a few times, summer camps, private tours etc and mr armour always always does head checks, always cautioning passengers, and if the boat stops for the guests to have a dip, he goes into the water, he also gives out life jackets. God, please watch over Andrew, he is hurting right now and we know the family is also hurting. it is natural to lash out, but please get together and work this out…

      • Hear Dat
        May 10, 2013

        Why would you think an individual who has being within this industry for almost 40 years would want to TAKE lives.

        need to watch your wording… Let the courts decide. But I see it as an accident.

        Hold Strong Mr. Armour.

  133. african queen
    May 9, 2013

    courage accident happens

    • true
      May 10, 2013

      maybe you should explain how they happen

  134. Caks
    May 9, 2013

    Come on, all these killers who continually walk free in Dominica ? Why Andrew ? This was obviously an accident! I say go after the real criminals and leave Andrew alone!

    • Malatete
      May 9, 2013

      Let’s calm down. it is undeniable that this unfortunate incident took place. Let the court decide whther is is a case of manslaughter, unintenional or not, a case of negligence or a mere accident The worst thing we could do is prejudice the case.

    • Dominican Abroad
      May 9, 2013

      I agree. I am still waiting for the trial of the killer of my two nephews, two christmases ago. I hear people are just dying in Dominica with no investigation.

      Our reputation is being tarnished abroad. A once beautiful, peaceful Island.

      • hmmmmmmm...
        May 11, 2013

        this comment has nothing to do here….someone died as a result of someone captaining a boat….whether it is intentional or not…a life was lost so let justice prevail.

    • true
      May 10, 2013

      you should ask the police
      and is that a reason to let the death of the young lady to be swept under the rug?
      I knew Dominicans were ignorant, but the discussion on this topic to it to the height, no sense whatsoever

  135. May 9, 2013

    quick to arrest eh police, but not too quick to arrest the lawyer with d 41 charges of fraud eh? What do you think?

    • LawieBawie
      May 9, 2013

      Did you actually read the article? Well I did and it says that this accident happened since December 1, 2012 and he is now being arrested. So I don’t understand how you could even begin to think that the police are quick to arrest. It is because of pressure being put on them by the attorneys in the USA that they have been forced to make this arrest. I suspect that you have a grudge (maybe political) which you are trying to air here but it is a misfit. Take your time you will get a better opportunity.

      • d complete Da story
        May 9, 2013

        The arrest was quick. Others CASES are taking years upon years.

  136. flower
    May 9, 2013

    Okkkkkkkk

  137. bigtymerz
    May 9, 2013

    wow!!! wonder what prompted them to take that action? just a question!

    • go
      May 9, 2013

      I wonder????

    • B.E.B
      May 9, 2013

      The amount of pressure from the overseas solicitors. I do think that this was an accident and theres no way any jurry members are going to find him guilty for any crime

      • Observer
        May 9, 2013

        Let’s hope not – it clearly was an accident and it’s a shame that the family cannot accept that and are looking for a scape goat for their grief. Maybe time will heal them more and they will realise that this action is not correct or fair.

      • Faceup
        May 10, 2013

        Why cause he is MR AMOUR??

      • hmmmmmmm...
        May 11, 2013

        that is why it is manslaughter!!!

    • Justice and Truth
      May 9, 2013

      To extract M-o-n-e-y! Another quick rich scheme! Many get rich that way.

      • Faceup
        May 10, 2013

        Yes like me and I don’t have a problem with that, sue where sue is necessary for pain and suffering I don’t have a prob with that.

      • TRUEMAN
        May 10, 2013

        ***YOUR SAD COMMENT***

        “justice & truth”

        It’s sad that you should think that way!!
        Just because someone would like accountability & rule of laws to be applied in this ACCIDENT does not make them evil as you seem to assume.

        We in DA might not be accustom to accountability being applied as the norm. But should the victim’s family just accept it like we do?

        So let’s just allow the “rule of law & “accountability” to prevail”.

        It’s a SAD situation for both families. Good people make mistakes everyday. I don’t know what happen. I WAS NOT THERE!

        All I want is for the rule of law to be PROCESSED & APPLIED….. where applicable.

        *For all victims in DA who still await the “rule of law to be applied” on there behalf.

        *For YOU & ME should we ever need “rule of law to be applied in our time of need.

        *For any “big shot” in DA…who might be getting away with breaking our laws. We would like to see “rule of law” applied ON THEM.

        We must all agree with the “application” of “rule of law. Sometimes, it is not applied when it should. Does that mean we must forget about it?

        Should the “rule of law be applied when we would like it to? But not when we would like it to?

        We are all responsible for the betterment of our country. One step is to show our responsibility in support of our laws where applicable. Yes, IT IS NOT ALWAYS EASY to apply and to accept it. But we must not surrender our support for it.

        If we do we shall be a country in chaos!! Then, we shall ALL we “victims of our own doing”!

        -Thanks

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