Three Chinese nationals, Yulong Xie; Jianhui Wen and Yong Zhong, have been remanded at the State Prison on a charge of theft.
They appeared before magistrate Asquith Riviere on Tuesday where the charge was read to them through an interpreter.
The charge is that between July 5th and 9th 2016 they stole EC$104,705 cash belonging to the National Bank of Dominica (NBD).
According to reports, the men have been allegedly withdrawing monies from an ATM and investigations are ongoing.
The matter was adjourned to November 14th, 2016.
No application for bail was made.
Wayne Norde is the attorney for the accused but Kondwani Williams held for him when the accused appeared in court.
Walter Mitty, aka francisco etienne dods telemaque. You have stated you have “four academic degrees in four different sciences” Wow! We are so impressed! I recall a previous post addressed to you as follows: “jack of all trades, master of none”. Very apt. We await your insults and name calling.
Our world is progressive. The more progressive, the more there will be thieves. Consider computer technology and other technologies. Now ATM’s. They have used every means to steal.
Charge cards are another matter. A charge card is presented in stores, restaurants, gas stations etc. It is easy for these staff to ring in the amount twice and also return a fake card. I have heard stories about this.
A friend informed me of her account which was compromised in Columbia. She has never been there. Her son’s account was compromised at a gas station.
As for this outsourcing, I have qualms about it. These people have our confidential information; easy for identity thefts.
Movies and programs have aided thieves and increased thefts. I saw a program on how they could steal money at ATM’s.
When we go to the ATM we must be careful. We also have to look around us and when leaving the bank.
It is not advisable to carry cash but I prefer paying cash for some items.
He who has no sin let him cast the first stone!
The work of these men are indeed incredible, that they are able with a card to override the banking system and withdraw that quota of money….. through an ATM … it is Identity Theft.
Now if the money was not withdrawn from an existing account owned by a client that is registered in the bank, then how can the bank or someone in dominica claim that they have lost possession.
It is theft… but theft from who? The bank has already done a contra entry to recover the withdrawn amount from the international accounts. Now if the theft charges succeed, the bank has a legal right to claim on insurance. If the men a re asked to repay the amount to the bank, then it is only fair that the bank returns the international amount.
The bank will gain 3X
Now if the Laws of Dominica do not cover that aspect of taking, then their lawyers can sure get them out.
Whatever the bank has to do it will be done. They committed a crime against the Bank, State and nationals. They must be tried and go through the due process. That is the Law of Dominica which has to be adhered to.
If they were Dominicans who committed a crime in China, the same would apply except in China the punishment would be greater, whatever it would be. They would not escape easily from the due process of China’s Law.
Another matter, they have fraudulent cards. This is a serious crime. They could have been using them worldwide, wherever they traveled to, bilking banks and customers of exorbitant sums of money.
DA land of liars and thieves. The only reason these people got arrested is because it is the bank. The thousands of dollars of goods and equipment stolen from the common people here are never recovered and the thieves never charged.
Dominican residents, if you are not aware how these bank thieves could steal from accounts at an ATM machine, you now know. They know how to do it easily.
In Canada we are informed and warned about it. The banks here issue directives to their customers. The Media also broadcast such information.
We are told when we go to an ATM, place something or one hand over the keys when keying-in our PIN. I always do that. I take extra precaution, knowing the type of brazen thieves in this country. The reason for this, they place gadgets above to catch your PIN. They could also place one in the slot where you put the bank card. In less than no time your account will be cleaned out. It has occurred to many people.
We are also told, do not go to the ATM in the evenings, if the bank is not opened.
Another fear is identity theft. If identities are stolen, it could take years in this country to rectify. It creates hardships for those whose identities are stolen.
I say to contact the FBI and turn them over to the American authorities if the cards were fraudulent American bank issued cards. This thing has been around in the US and Europe for a while. Knew an African guy who was busted in California for doing that crap. He had a machine which made these cards. That is crazy scary stuff.
#OLD One Love Dominicans!!
Assuming that they have Dominican citizenship,can they be sent back to China against their wishes???
Welcome to the other side of China——– they are going to flee before November.
You must be a fortune teller and can foresee the future.
These guys had over 100 cards…. The cards where not local cards. It is like using your American CC at the NBD terminal. The card worked in withdrawing the cash, however, the bank had no way of collecting that fund since the cards were fake. So, with NBD having more than 3 atms in Roseau, they could each have been at a different ATM, with a few cards withdrawing. how lon does it take to make a withdrawal? 2 mins max? So each of them had to just about EC$34901. That works about to be aprrox $1000.00 per card. so each would maybe have 35 Card in their possession.
I wonder how many countries they visited and used those cards to steal money?
Interpol, FBI and Scotland Yard should get involved.
These crimes are not new…. What needs to happen now, is all Financial Institutions that operates ATMs, need to do a thorough audit…. I am pretty sure that they just might come up with something. Now, these cards can be erased and reused… with just about EC$500.00 you can buy one for these card readers, and makers. July 12 was Amazon Prime day, and for US$147.00 you could have gotten the whole works…… Dominica is no longer an island by itself, but a very TINY village in this very small world.
Take their passports (if they have) and send them packing.
They can still travel clandestine so it’s better to lock them up ,I personally don’t think that any Dominican would go free after being arrested for such a high level of crime..
I am hearing people saying how it take the bank so long.omg.Dominicans they got arrested in 5DAYS.including the day they were caught and the days it took to actually investigate and find them..
You seem to believe these thieves are waiting on police to find them..you guys are full of it..If you have all that ATM cards on an island full of ATMs and you are chinese i am assuming you are not easy to find with just a picture from a bank camera.
The police did a great job by finding these guys because to many times they escape after cleaning out. I Think the bank should be applauded for having processes that would alert them of these events since thats the only way to find out so soon.
Great JOB DOMINICA POLICE your investigation skills is improving.You couldn’t beatup nobody to tell you where them chinese was you actually had to do investigation work and find them using surveillance or wateva
Nice Job.most of these guys escape 99% of the time..We caught a band of international…
People i am reading this uneducated comments and you Dominicans making like all you country. Three guys with over 1000 FOREIGN CARDS not Dominican people own..They call them burner cards or gift cards they can be bought…these guys use some ATM Skimming devices
http://gizmodo.com/the-terrifying-evolution-of-atm-skimmers-1626794130 (example).
These devices are placed on the card reader of the ATMs they will also use some type of wireless camera that is normally placed over the keypad of the ATM to capture your pin while the skimmer takes you card data.
You would then purchase a mag stripe reader or writer on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/magneticstripe-encoder
This device can be use to burn the card data collected by the device placed on the card reader of the ATM. Since they would have videos of the entire pining process they can create cards on island secretly all just for 215.00usd for a mag stripe writer…Don’t misuse this information..its for knowledge not abuse.
A tourist robbed a bank in St. Maarten a few months ago wearing his tropical tourist shirt and his shades.. walked out with thousands of dollars. They did not find him until he went to one of the virgin islands and gave up himself, i guess he felt that was just way too easy to pull off because no one would expect a WHITE tourist to rob a bank.. Apparently he was a cruise ship tourist. Now why are we making it a huge issue because these thieves were Chinese. Dominicans stop your racism. Criminals come in all races.
“Dominicans stop your racism.”
It may not be racism. Seems to me more like realism.
With all due respect Chinese people are often found to have a certain intelligence that adapts well to the use of technology, computers and the internet. I worked several years for one of Canada’s major banks.
I remember discussing this with a long time bank employee. I recall him saying it had been noted in the bank that the Chinese seemed to have a talent for such work.
Obviously this intelligence or this talent can be used for good or evil. Many hold high level jobs and are
contributing members of society, but others become criminals.
In recent years we have seen a significant number of Chinese involved in credit card and ATM fraud and that involving a high degree of skill. I have become wary of them, especially in any transaction that involves credit cards passports They have been known not only to misuse them, but to literally manufacture and sell them.
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The fact that these boys had in their possession 100 cards smacks of professionalism! This appears to be an ongoing occupation for them. It looks like their career.
You could try and jail them. But then your tax payers would be paying their room and board. Your alternative would be to send them packing.
Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. Evangelist.
If you are a real Rev. you should be ashamed of yourself. you should come up with a more balanced comment than this. Many of our people have engaged in fraudulent acts at banks here. So you should preach about staying away from such acts and encourage all of us to work hard for what we need. Too bias Rev.
It is not racism. Even you do not appear to grasp this situation.
It is first time for that sort of crime in Dominica and by three Chinese people. It is to be expected that it is a huge issue. In fact it is shocking.
The situation and people speak for themselves. It was an occurrence which no one expected to occur in Dominica. Who would ever think of doing such a thing in Dominica and expect to get away with it? That is the huge, shocking issue and a non-racial one..
Sakway sort racism???
No wonder NBD has this Mega Lost. I strongly believe this has been going on for a long time and there is much more to this than those 3. My advise please get the FBI assistance on that. If 5 days over $100000 has been withdrawn, I believe millions of dollars are already gone
Whoo …
These Chinese are Dominican nationals?
I missed that! In that case just lock them up and throw away the key!
Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. Evangelist.
you look at to much TV…how they take the money wasn’t magic..
feel shame for one day and shut up.poor innocent country.good humain all u bee.all u have church all abou in da but it doesn t change all tong and eyes.good children and better children of the world.so much goat familly da.all that is crime.why all u doesn t try to open all u heart for others.why all u so ignorent.so weekid.so killer.so rapist.so goat.shut up for a wile.take ort the stone in all u eyes before all try to take hort a little sane in somebody else eyes.
all u just feel shame
and i forget raping to.and tell me in what place familly toes whent to take familly more.all u talking like dominicains so good.all u always on a nation back.is chinese is haitian.but all do see is all u groging and dirty hand that have da like that.every body in every place have good and bad.why when a dominicain do a crime we doent feel shame.a little country like that.dominicains spoling other country with drug .most of them like fast money.do they will do it to event worst.stop it.stop talking about thoes chinese and haitian.pray for that country.all u burning .killing thoes who that poor.thzt is the money they di give andy carbon they took.no justice in that country.they well it.they shuld decale all thoes banque in da beczuse they so vole to.when somebody take a lone bye them.
What the @#$% are you trying to say?
Sincerely, Rev. Dr. Donald Hill. Evangelist.
i just want to share my experience with everyone. I have been hearing about this blank ATM card for a while and i never really paid any interest to it because of my doubts. Until one day i discovered a hacking guy called Barry Ben. he is really good at what he is doing. Back to the point, I inquired about The Blank ATM Card. If it works or even Exist. he told me
Yes and that its a card programmed for random money withdraws without being noticed and can also be used for free on-line purchases of any kind. This was shocking and i still had my doubts. Then i gave it a try and asked for the card and agreed to their terms and conditions. Hoping and praying it was not a scam. 3 days later i received my card and tried with the closest ATM machine close to me, It worked like magic. I was able to withdraw up to $11000. i also used it on-line and it was a success, i am very happy i can now put food on my family table and also pay my bills too. For those of you out there who needs financial…
If this is true, then you are brazen to divulge it. How could you bank the money without being caught? Wait until the authorities catch up with you.
You must be from some country where the authorities do not care. Where I reside, a customer cannot merely bank an exorbitant sum of money without divulging the origin of it.
Someone told me that a man tried to deposit a sum of money which he won in a lottery. He had to inform the teller where he got the money from, although it was a cheque. The police was called. He had to show a personal ID to prove he is the rightful owner. Only then was he a free person and able to deposit the money.
An exorbitant sum of money deposited is grounds for suspicion if it cannot be authentically proven.
lmaooooooo…you must be the dumbest nigg&&r alive to repeat that online.but i like your stupidity its almost to funny..like this one time i saw Santa fighting with an Alien I didnt believe it myself until I saw Jaws and Robocop was sharing them…smh..i know right…its real..
all do good in that place.all u geting worst day after day.why to talk about thoes chinese like that.who is more vole than hours nation.go baie mahault in guadeloupe the jail have more dominicain in it for braquage and kiling.if all u doesn t realise shut up.dominicains a big thif to and killers.so all peche is peche.
“Francisco, please don’t give us that about only in Dominica, you know dam well things like that happens every day around the world 3months ago in Spain the bank block my account for 24 hrs.”(Arte El Labore).
You know; if you read the article, and understand what you read, you would not have any difficulties understanding it said! “The charge is between July 5th and 9th 2016 they stole EC$104,705 cash belonging to the National bank of Dominica by allegedly withdrawing monies from an ATM.
Where in the article it said anything about hacking; where in the article it said stole private people money? The article is specific: “Allegedly withdrawing monies over a five day period.” If there was any security at bank the ATM would have confiscate the card used, and put them out of business.
Some of you need to shut up, you are not smart as you all believe you are. I left Los Angeles going to Canada, making stops along the way using my credit from Chase Bank paying my Hotel…
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I left Los Angeles going to Canada, making stops along the way using my credit from Chase Bank paying my Hotel Bills. I got to New Jersey, and went into a store to buy something, when I attempted to use my card with a credit line of more than a hundred thousand dollars, it was shut down okay!
I called Chase bank while I was in the Store to find out why the account was closed. They informed me that they saw activities on the card from Los Angeles, Arizona, Texas, Mew Mexico, Oklahoma, Ohio, and it was happening in New Jersey. They told me they called my house in La to find out if I lost my card, or if it is stolen, and got my coda phone.
I told them I am the one charging on the card, I am no my vacation. The told me in the event I am going to travel let them know so that they will not shut it down when the see that number of activities in the feature. So all garbage you all are talking I should not even dignify them. I reiterate these people had to have ATM…
Francisco, In the UK any one who goes to an ATM withdrawing money as you said you did the banks or bank would always put a block to it and anyway why did you try to get hundred thousand dollars on the way to your holiday all this should have been sorted out before you start your journey Mr Francisco, you are not as smart as you think you are OK.
dude ..if you have more than 1000 cards how can you block one account…these guys are smart they don’t re-use cards..if you have 1000 cards and you have the device to burn data on blank cards why reuse..two of them were caught in the ATM doing transactions after the police had been hunting them for 2 Days..
Let me educate you mister none of the accounts were dominican banks they were middle east or where ever they got the data to burn on the blank cards..
So the block you are talking about would a security on the ISSUEING BANK aka the bank that issued the customer that card in the middle east or wherever..
CHASE CALLED YOU CUZ THEY ISSUED YOU THE CARD ….you are their customer..maybe the persons that own the cards did get a call from their middle east bank but if I have a 100+cards I will never use this one again.
If I did use it again an it gets blocked I have hundreds more plus 1000EC is nothing in Euro/pounds so its like small amounts.
They might never get that…
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Lets just say they were Dominican people cards and it was not by the way..why would a Dominica taking 1000EC which is the limit raise a flag? Its not like they were using the card in Martinique or Barbados or another Caribbean Island..
You need to read more so you can understand this stuff Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque ..
You are chase customer so they can call you and tell if is to authorize transactions from Canada but the bank that owns the Point of Sale machine in the store cannot block your transactions since you are not their customer.
Also before your store transaction is authorize the bank that owns the POS machine has to query the bank the issue you the card to verify the card is not stolen or if you have funds…once the acknowledgement comes back to the store POS chinese or not the goods are given..
I could have hack the info on your card in the store and go an clean you out by simply going in the state you are in or a store close to your house…
Francisco, Do not try talking me on because i will exposed you for what you are A sick dreamer
Boy I afraid for those officers that arrested those three Chinese. All you not scared Skerrit , Blackmore and, Carbon don’t find a way to demote you all for arresting Skerrit s importees? All you should know promotion in Dominica these days is based on doing their dirty work, and demotion comes by working in the interest of the country.
Boy I only hope that kind of theft was not in the MOU Skerrit signed with Chinese to build the hospital, the international airport, and the hotel.
It’s bad enough for criminals around the world to be given a Dominican passport to commit their crime around the world. But it sure hurts more when they are impotence by our government and next thing they taking poor people money.
I bet if it was a black man that did it you would say that because he was hungry he did it
How long were they in D/ca and the purpose of their visit? They cannot speak English but they know how to steal from a D/can bank.
Would we not like to know how they were able to pull this theft off, by what means they did and if D/can customers lost money from their accounts?
At least they are incarcerated. Since they are non-D/cans, we expect they will not be granted bail.
These people could pull tricks, i.e., thieves. While in prison, they must be closely watched so that they do not escape.
Be careful with their visitors. They are Chinese nationals. Therefore, expect Chinese officials to visit them. Scrutinize them and their movement very closely. Do not let your guard down.
I wonder if NBD will be able to get back its money. If so, after their case is called, simply deport them. The last thing D/ca should want is Chinese prisoners and non-English speaking ones at that..
Some people know all the tricks. Within five days they withdrew EC $104,705? They are some smart crooks, but not so smart because they remained in D/ca no doubt to continue their money-pilfering.
Did they think that banks or nationals in D/ca have money?
Here is what they could have done. They used some sort of gadget, stuck it above and/or where customers place their ATM cards. After the customers complete their transactions and leave, they later retrieve the card and are able to use it to withdraw money from customers’ accounts. Many customers could have been bilked.
Are some of you not aware of this manner of stealing from customers’ account?
Or they had some fake cards which enabled them to withdraw money from the bank and by transferring the funds to another banking system elsewhere in the world. Maybe China? Just speculating.
D/ca customers, be they in D/ca or abroad may have lost some money. If they did, the bank will have to reimburse them.
EC$104,705………….. How did that happen, and it took that long to realize that was going on?
This is the only reasonable and sensible question asked. That is why I said there is no security governing ATM withdrawals in that particular bank. All who want to talk about UK crap, and Dominica, they argue with themselves.
In the United States if you go to an ATM with your debit or Credit card, and you error when inserting your pin, or account number, if you are unable to remember immediately the number, and you keep entering the wrong pin or account number, the system simply shuts you out!
So I do not know what these don’t know anything people are talking about!
Mr.Franciso.lol.this is a feature of All ATMs if you error the pin..it blocks the card..ALL ATMs NOT just America ..EVerywhere..this guys had Card+Pin..they had 100s of them plus the device that would allow them to copy new customer data to new cards .
They came with these Cards in Dominica..they didn’t below to the national bank customers..it was not Magic it was Theft. They were able to insert a card reader in the ATM or where ever in the middle east or where ever (not dominica) stole the data.
Purchase black cards and they had the device that would allow them to burn this stolen data to black cards. They also had a camera i assume that would have been placed over the keypad of the ATM they were “hitting” so while the camera videos your pin the fake Card Reader steals your data..thats how its done.it is a very simple skim..
You don’t have to be smart dominicans..MY lil cousin in grade 6 can pull that off..the device to burn the data only cost 200USD. its called a…
that long ….5days including days they were caught and days for police investigation..smh…
That $1000 limit is only for DA bank accounts. If for example the account they are withdrawing from is say Canadian the limit is much higher as it is in Canadian funds. So a card withdrawing from a Canadian account could withdraw up to $2000 each time as the current exchange rate is $EC2 to each $CDN
It depends how much money customers have in their account. The daily withdrawal from the ATM must be authorized by the bank.
If they go to a teller, they could withdraw more. If at an ATM, they can only withdraw the authorized amount.
In view of money laundering, the Canadian banks are stringent. The Canadian Government authorized the banks to report exorbitant sums of money which are withdrawn or sent abroad.
It reminds me some years ago I went to a branch of the bank I conduct business with to purchase a money order. It was approximately $150.00. The teller gave me a rough time. I had planned to report her. However, at that time there was talk of money laundering. Guess what? She was a Chinese teller. Imagine! Oh boy!
It will never happen to me again for where I bank (at two banks) the tellers know me. We are on a friendly basis.
1. I feel the senior counsel that always running his mouth in national matters should represent these three Chinese. That’s the kind of case he can easily defend.
2. Were they Dominicans under the dlp version of citizenship by investment program? If yes, then that’s bad record for Dominica.
3. Assuming they had Dominican passport and committed that sort of thing in America, how much damage that would do to all of us ?
Do not let your wild imagination run away with you. We know nothing other than they used fake cards at the ATM to steal the money from NBD. We hope we will hear more about it when/after their case is called.
Back in the 80’s, if a Dominican committed a crime in Guadalupe, all Dominicans in Guadalupe were blamed and, the French immigration would go on a drive to send back all illegal Dominicans back. In this case I assume these Chinese were legal here and maybe had Dominican passport. But worse of all, in this case with the alleged three Chinese thieves , they were brought here by our government I guess as per sons with special skills so they just displayed their skills. I don’t blame these three Chinese; I blame those that imported them
Bro these Chinese are Dominican nationals they are safer than you … your withdrawal limit is 1 grand theirs unlimited, they are known protected by the government you are not … be careful they are going to be ministers in your next government … patience
That is nothing new. It happens in Canada. Here is what they will say, “Send them home!”
as some non-West Indians may think. I inform them I am not one with anyone of them.
I am certain elsewhere in the world.
These nationals have reason to be embarrassed that one of their own could do such a thing.
For instance the majority of crimes by West Indians are committed by Jamaicans. The Jamaican population is greater. There are times I am asked if I am from Jamaica. I emphatically state, “NO!” It looks like “alla we a one” in this country,
Today, these people are more broadminded. Some of them are aware that there are different West Indian islands.
Mama always told me thieves get attracted to thieves and people of good character usually get attracted to like minded people. Mama also told me if one day I become a leader, be careful not to steal from the country because that will make me a thief and thieves will go to any part of the world to attract thieves like themselves.
My mama told me the same thing
I guess his mama didn\’t tell eem so. 
Your first sentence is absolutely correct. You know, “Birds of a feather flock together” and “Show me your friends I will show you who you are.” Bad company corrupts.
Once people commence stealing, they become addicted and cannot help themselves. Wherever they go they keep on stealing. They can never have enough until they may be caught. Even then they make it a lifetime career. They are kleptomaniacs.
This reminds me of a joke in one of my book of jokes: One early morning, a kleptomaniac telephoned his psychiatrist while he was sleeping. The K. told him, “Doctor I am at a bar and I feel like stealing again.” The doctor responded impatiently: “For goodness sake! Take two ashtrays and call me in the morning.”
“next level!”
Are you serious DNO? They were only charged for theft? But then again they should go to all the ATM’s on island and help themselves. I guess they were looking for their share from the Panama papers but somebody should tell them money from the Panama is in foreign banks hiding .
5th to 9th July that’s 5 days at 1500.00 maximum per day give you = $7500.00 x 3 Chinese, how the hell they end up $104 705.00.Only in Dominica
Ur Maths is lmao..lmao…lmao..smh..That Maths Class tho?
Multiple cards…
Interesting! You gave me a great challenge. Good exercise for the brains.
Simply calculate the total amount $104,705.00 and divide it by 5 = $20,941.00 daily.
$20,941.00 x 5 days = $104,705.00
If you wish to calculate how much each may have stolen daily –
$20,941.00 daily divided by 3 people = $6,980..33 each
But is this possible? Could they not have been together and stolen one amount instead of 3 different ones/times? Although they each could have gone to three different ATM’s or at three different times.
$6,980.33 each, one person daily
$20,941.00 – three people daily
$20,941.00 daily x 5 days = $104,705.00 Total amount
That was some calculation!
Their card (s) pulled in a good amount daily.
These people are something else.
I calculated it on a manual calculator.
The bank will have to calculate their correct amount stolen.
I guess they know alot of people remove their money from Royal bank to put in NBD so NBD has alot of money now
Now, I would like to know how these guys passed thru customs with 1000 ATM cards. Or were these cards made in Dominica with a private card making machine??
George the device to create the or burn the information to the crard is as small as a cell phone…if you hve the card data you can burn 1000 cards in couple minutes similar to how you burn CDs but much faster since its just text data to a mag stripe..its not a card making machine it don’t make cards..
You can purchase cards what they do is use a mag stripe writer and burn the stolen data to the cards…
So basically these guys can make cards in a few hours while NBD have to tell you come back in a few days? I’m done.
Even then they would have to bring it into Dominica. How did they escape customs’ scrutiny with all those cards?
After all man…
I know Yulong Xie..my boy you from a nice respectable family..why you have to bring shame on your family so????/
On a serious note..the atm limits at NBD is $1,000 per day..in 4 days time they took out $104,000. Wow what else has these guys been up too????
Are you Chinese?
Because they came to Dominica with our passports, and the same money was returned to them to
inferior goods that make them a good family.
I have lived and worked with Chinese in North America fit over 30 yrs.
They are a unit, his family are all part of the scheme.
If it was a Dominican, you would no be so quick to defend him.
Dominicans for you, we knock our own down and put criminals foreign criminals up,
smH..was just joking..lol..that’s how Dca people take kicks..
Merina I know your mother how you get so?..
What happened to the monies that were withdrawn? Will the Bank make an official Statement?
Banks are usually secretive. They never divulge the full amount. It is embarrassing for them. It will not project them in a good light and for also prospective customers..
When the Media gets hold of this news, they do not fear reporting it. I mean, Canadian Media; probably not the D/can Media and the police authorities.
i see them wi, but it was looking normal
You definitely made my day! Laughing out soooooooooooooooo loud!
Good next time go in all banks in da
Ebeh, this is an interesting development in DA..I would refrain from making allegations etc..as I don’t know much of the case..But purely from an observatory standpoint, it’s interesting to see that the Bank was able to spot and track the criminals.
We have to remember that as a country develops and invites others to settle, the systems will have to stand extraordinary tests and this is one such test..where foreign nationals apparently with a bit more technical knowledge than an average national thought that they could take advantage of a vulnerable system but instead got ensnared..
Surely the Bank has learned a bit more from this incidence and hopefully Dominicans will benefit from a more robust bank security upgrade if necessary or from simple heightened vigilance of the banking system.
So I’d say in every disappointment remains a blessing, although the Chinese Nationals will pay for their offence. Just bear in mind that criminal elements exist everywhere regardless of race.
Well they will be bailed soon… One broke and Police Officer hand and was bailed, by Government employees at the time.
But all you come out
Well Dominica ATM giving alot. I live in the US and the amount i can withdraw from my back is $300.00 anything more i have to go to a teller. I hope tell learn of this.
Chinese know they can never do these can of crime in their country because is hard labour or death.
In my bank I can withdraw as much as $500 at the ATM. The teller could give me more.
The reason for that is to protect customers.
I could arrange to withdraw more from the ATM if I wish. Oh yes, I could withdraw $500 twice. If you are a good customer and never had NSF cheques, etc., it will be allowed. The bank records know their customers and their banking habits.
they obviously did it via atm skimming with multiple stolen cards, all over the world people are doing that theft from people and cashing out at atm machines, it’s very easy to do…
I say they do right….they should have empty all accounts,even mine. Take it
you make no sense and very uneducated
Thanks for a good laugh,I laugh so hard my stomach ache thanks again. You are dead funny.
thanks for making my day. lol
DNO..why the bank dough release a statement..from what I hear the chinese came down to Dominica with over 1000ATM cards that they collected from Europe and Asian countries..Spanish countries.
they came here to collect the cash from Caribbean ATMs but the accounts on the cards were not dominica or Caribbean bank cards..LOL..
thats why it had all that money on them cards I guess.they were not taking more than 1000 per card since that is normally the limit..
Chinese have their own card machine printing ATM cards. They have certain privilege information that allow them to hack into systems as a result they were able so far to draw out or maybe should say hack out these amounts so far. NBD noticed from their accounts we have not heard which other banks they robbed. Maybe there is more? Chinese who develop software for these electronic machines, we purchase these machines from them so they know all the tricks in trade to manipulate the machines. This is what is happening. Remember the chinese have a goal to conquer the world so they are able to work on the poor, innocent and vulnerable people of the countries. They read through Skerrit long time, they notice he don’t care so they are now pouncing on the innocent Dominicans. You can say what you want our Leader is to blame. This is part of the 7 pillar project that is still languishing to get off the ground
What do you mean the PM does not care? Explain to D/can nationals why you think/state, he don’t care?
You are so sure that the PM is to be blamed. You should be asked to prove this in Court. Watch your words in future.
You generalize that all Chinese people are crooks and thieves. It is as stating that all D/cans are the same. Thefts occur in every country. Not all nationals of those countries are thieves.
Why Dominica? Why did these Chinese people choose D/ca? This must be determined. In fact they may have chosen a wrong country to withdraw such an exorbitant amount and within a few days. Note how quickly they were caught.
Pertaining to purchasing machines from China, US enterprises commenced it and other countries followed suit. My computer system was purchased from a US enterprise. The computers were advertised in a Toronto newspaper, giving the impression that the enterprise is located in this city.
Simply put, did you ask that the PM should be asked to prove his assertion in court when he stated that he knew who had burnt the equipment at Captain Bruce in Marigot belonging to the airport or when he said he knew who had placed the alleged bomb under the bridge in Roseau? Damn hypocrite!!
HOTEP!
At that time I was not aware it was made overseas, that this enterprise outsourced and is located in a different country other than the US and that I was communicating with someone in India, Manila, China, etc.
One thing I can say this computer is a good one. It has not crashed. . It is still operable. I understood that this enterprise produces good computers.
The trick of it is, it does not show, “made in China.” The name of this enterprise is shown on my computer and on all documents.
If there is anyone to blame for this, blame these enterprises.
It is stated, it is cheaper for them to operate in those countries than in the US, Canada, Europe. Therefore, other countries and nationals have no alternative but to purchase products which are “made in China.”
We do not have a choice. Blame the big governments of those countries; not the PM in little Dominica. Again, the products are cheaper than if made in the country where we reside.
Thefts occur in every country. Not all nationals of those countries are thieves. Why Dominica? Why these Chinese chose D/ca must be determined. In fact they may have chosen a wrong country to withdraw such an exorbitant amount and within a few days. Note how quickly they were caught.
Pertaining to purchasing electronic equipment from China and conducting business with China, even though we have qualms, I am confident that China cannot take over the world unless those countries allow it.
US enterprises commenced it and other countries followed suit. If there is anyone to place the blame game on, it is primarily the US. Their very own people also work at those Chinese establishments.
I have heard some stories about placing gadgets in those systems to trace them, etc.
However, try not to deceive readers. Do a research and be fair.
No law, no constitution, no order, that is why they chose Dominica.
“The weakest link”-with an Alcapone government?
Merina, I probably know you and you know me. The PM has nothing to do with these Chinese and vice versa. Do not place everything on the PM’s back.
Furthermore, what he stated was a long time ago. Some people as you love to repeat over and over again what he may have stated which today, is not important – redundant.
If God would keep repeating the sins everyone commit, Hell would be the lot for everyone. Live and let live and let pass – forget.
Repetitiveness is boring and makes for boring reading; not pleasant ones. Furthermore, it is an ill wind that blows nobody any good. It gets us nowhere; it gets those who keep repeating those words nowhere. It is a waste of time. Move forward.
What you are saying is totally false..these accounts were from the middle east and europe..from a bank stand point and I once worked in a bank..they would realize the cash in the ATMs are running much lower than projected hence they would always do a count of the cash in the ATM to see how the cash so low.
The banks has a good idea of when they should stock the machines with cash so if it gets low before the projected time..its always an investigation..u need to read more..
Ok now we ant stupid. I cannot even take 1200$ from my atm and how they did that in such a short period of time how many atm they had. And. How they did it. Copy ppl atm by using fake atm topper? I tell you them ppl will do anything for money wrong for dominica sentence them to hard labor and then deport them cause in their country is life time jail that crime
they redrew the aloted amount required on a daily bases I assume overtime, you know the wheels trun slow in Dominica so by the time the bank fin out the money was gone,, the bank is lucky the did not flee the Island.
withdrew, allotted, basis, over time, turn, find, they.
i see 13 people are just as stupid as you..wheels turn slow they were caught..in four days ..don’t you think they would have to be investigated before they were caught..you think the police know the address of 3 china men even though the bank gave them pictures..
all these dudes look the same..it was a great job..if you was educated you would realize to find out some is stealing is one thing…catching them in the act with the money is another..and the police did a Hella job..
The poster couldn’t even formulate a coherent post without a horde of spelling and grammatical errors do you really think they have any idea about the process of criminal investigations?
The country so hard even the chinese voleying now
It hard and they get money to voleh? Your comment makes no sense.A real idiot!!
So you interpreted ‘the country so hard’ to mean it has no money? Lol comprehension. I guess if the doctor say youbsick you shouldn’t have blood in ur body.
Interesting and shocking story, isn’t it?
We do not know why they were in Dominica and why they chose Dominica. I assume they claimed to be visitors. One thing, they came as undercover thieves.
I am questioning the competence of NBDs systems
John 316, why are you questioning NBD systemso are you stupid or a jackass things like this happens every day around the world so called smart people with smartphones trying to steal your money ,from you and that lots who gave you 10 like are just as stupid as you are .
You are correct. Thieves are way ahead of banking enterprises. No matter what precautions are in place, they will find a way. These people spend time on concocting their next move, what county, area, which bank and how much they plan to steal.
When a security system or program is hacked it must be questioned or revised. It is compromised if it was accessible by persons outside of the account holders and bank. That is how security is maintained by raising the bar each time it is penetrated. To think otherwise is as u put it stupid
Blue blaize who said it was a “hack”..Card + Pin was were used from a bank stand point that is a legal transaction..what happen here was Identity Theft since the people that own these accounts are in the middle east.
When this ATM card was placed in our ATM the dominica national bank system would have query the customer from the bank in the middle east that issued the card. If there is a successful response then the money is dispense from the Dominica ATM..
they were also caught in 4days including the days for investigation by the police and day they were captured…I have worked in a bank in the STates and I can tell you that is impressive work for a small caribbean bank..these guys have probably been hitting bigger banks in bigger countries and was never caught..
Kudos Dca..I feel like coming back home now..
Feed them only rice and shatoo water on the side, on a daily bases, hard labour near the boiling lake ten years minimum .
Jail and deport!
Take there passport , and no bai,l give them hard labour
Make their sentence hard labour.
You say Chinese nationals but aren’t they Dominicans as well.Don’t they hold Dominican passports.If so call them Dominicans of Chinese descent.I only hope this matter is being handled properly and will not further embarrass Dominica
How do you know if they are Dominican? There are many Chinese nationals working here on contract who are not Dominican citizens. Maybe you know them personally in which case I would be wrong and I would stand corrected.
Did you learn comprehension at school,that’s the problem with education today.I asked the question first,do they hold Dominican passports? aren’t they Dominican citizens?Sir I don’t know if they hold our passports.Then if they do that makes them Dominicans.
The fact is they are now Dominicans, we need to find out how the came to Dominica!
Through the buying of citizenship, or other means. If they are capable of withdrawing and stealing money from an ATM they must be well capable professional thieves!
On the other hand the banking security system in that bank does not exist. I know that ATM has be dragged out of walls, and taken away by thieves, I’ve heard ATM’s malfunction, and dispense money, but never heard of anyone developing a system where they simply withdraw money at random from an ATM.
Only in Dominica anyway!
What you talking about Francisco
man don’t be an idiot .
them man putting some duplicate attachment at the front of the ATM and Viola .
This happens all over Europe
.Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque…you have a smart name but sound unintelligent…This kinds of hacks are common..if you have 1000 Fraudulent ATM cards..what would stop you from emptying an ATM…Each card has a 1000 dollar limit..is not from one card..you have 1000 of cards and 17+ ATMS to withdraw from..
Security system will not help you..what you should look at is THEY WERE CAUGHT.so that tells you some security was in place…INTERNATIONAL CRIMINALS THAT HARVEST OVER 1000 ATM CARDS IN EUROPE CAUGHT #onlyindominica
We small but we really are intelligent.
Just because you never heard of something, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. You need to educate yourself. But either way this is not the case.
Francisco, please don’t give us that about only in Dominica, you know dam well things like that happens every day around the world 3months ago in Spain the bank block my account for 24 hrs. Till the UK bank sort it out some one try to get into my account, so please do not insult my country, also i love my place of birth Dominica some people have a problem with that good luck to them ?pottersvile steber street is my street.
This kinds of hacks are common..if you have 1000 Fraudulent ATM cards..what would stop you from emptying an ATM…Each card has a 1000 dollar limit..is not from one card..you have 1000 of cards and 17+ ATMS to withdraw from..
Well, here you are insinuating that I am not smart, yet you talk about hackers, and hacking into an ATM system, and then you mentioned 1000 fraudulent cards.
Hackers do not use cards to extract money from Banks ATM’s they use computer to access peoples account in the banks transferring money into accounts in foreign banks across the world which are difficult to trace. Some of those hackers are never caught!
If they used ATM cards as you suggest they probable had inside help, someone issued the cards. So now figure out between you and I who is the smartest!
I know is not me eh!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Boy you people are something else!
Not sure why you think Dominicans are stupid.
These kind of thieves happen every minute of the day
I responded to all of you stupid people on the matter, already, my comments disappeared! All the rubbish you all are talking do not fade me, because your comments are nothing more than trash talk!
All who want to talk about hacking and they can waste their breath, how the hell someone is going to hack into an ATM, with an issued Card with a pin number, and password! People who have the knowledge uses computers to hack into other peoples computer.
I would never do on line banking, because it is very easy to target someone by name and access their privacy. The government of North Korea hacked into Sonny Pictures last year, stealing information, you can’t do that with a credit card nor ATM card. To the idiot who claim I have a smart name, be informed name does not make people smart. One is either born gifted, or they study hard, and develop the intelligence.
In my case I was born with a gift, my electrical, and electronic engineering knowledge, and Skills is a gift, my other…
One is either born gifted, or they study hard, and develop their intelligence.
In my case I was born with a gift, my electrical, and electronic engineering knowledge, and skills is a gift: my other academics accomplishments especially in Health Science, came by hard work; working by day and going to school by night!
I remember one day a certain guy from Wesley who was an Air Traffic Control officer at Melville Hall Airport saw me with a book dealing with electronic mathematical formulas, the man told me to my face “you can’t do those” my friend, you were here in La, you were supposed to call me and visit, I think you were afraid you never showed. But here I am the man you said can’t do that accomplish four academic degrees in four different sciences; what is for a man nobody can prevent it.
So,you all can keep talking fart as usual Dominicans best!
your post is embarrassing me as a Dominican
Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
hahahahahahahahahahahahhaha..4DEGREES you say ? That college did a Butched up Job on you cuz you sound un-intelligent and I am being real with you..You an electrical or wateva engineer that thinking this stuff is magic..You skills sucks..I wouldn’t hire you to engineer nothing for me..
You sound like you know nothing about engineering and this is coming from an ENGINEER.. a real one..I don’t have 4 degrees..you say hackers ?lol…You don’t even understand what that is sir..
If you think in 2016 you have to drag an ATM out to steal from it YOU ARE NOT AN ENGINEER….YOU SIR SUCK..you need to educate yourself before somebody in the states go with you ..cuz the way you sounding anybody can SELL YOU with all your degree you have there..#OnlyinDominica..#DominicanBornEngineer
all u dominican too like STORY THE NEWS NEVER SAY THEY HAD DOMINICA PASSPORT..YOu that Jonathan dere..how can you call a chinese national an Dominican..smh..
Yes man they must embarrass D/ca for the fake MOU ur. masters and them bought from china
Withdrawing? I thought the machine did not allow that huge withorawal?
Isn’t it obvious that this was not done through one transaction? SMH
Between July 5th amd July 9th…….Over a period of time………..
Over a period of time, it would appear.
It was taken by $1000.00 at a time ..
They had several ATM cards . They either made them here or brought them in……its a scheme they have developed over the past months in other countries too.
Banks generally allow withdrawal of a certain amount per day. It occurred at intervals; daily. Since there were three of them, they were able to withdraw that amount. How they did it? Well, the bank will have to divulge it. In Dominica, they are secretive and nationals may not know how they were able to pull this off with that amount of money.
When you putting up them un-educated comment take out Dominican as your name..
HOW 28 PEOPLE IN 2016 think and ATM can dispense over 100,000.00 at once in 20s/50s/.smh..and learn to Spell . what is “withorawal”?..dude stop insulting my country with that comment..you and that “Illiterate Twenty-eight”