The police have charged Patrickson Moses, also known as ‘Gravity,’ of Kingshill for the death of Anderson ‘Andy’ Carbon.
Carbon’s body was discovered on the sea defense wall at the Bay Front in Rosesau at around 4:00 am on Friday, June 23.
He was pronounced dead by a medical doctor and a coroner’s inquest was convened.
Police PRO, Inspector Pellam Jno Baptiste, said the police have completed their investigation into the matter and Moses was charged.
He appeared in court on Monday and is now on remand.
‘Gravity,’ a vagrant, is well known on the streets of Roseau.
If Gravity has been aggressive and he continuously threatened people in the past, he should have been forcibly arrested and mandated to treatment by a judge. Tools such as a “Mental Health Warrant,” would serve some of the more aggressive vagrants quite well. This would provide them with humane treatment and counseling plus psychotropic medication if deemed necessary. But then again, our society and wider culture has not evolved to identify and tackle such issues. If evidence disappears from the Evidence Locker Room at Police Headquarters, I do not expect such care and attention to be given to guys like Andy and Gravity.
Gravity has been in and out of Jail for at least the 10 years I was in DA. The stories he would tell me when I saw him bleeding and looking like he had been beaten badly, more than once mind you. Not sure if they are true as he wasn’t all there? He called me Jenny even though I told him a hundred times that wasn’t my name? One in particular was he had stolen a gas can and the police beat him badly and dropped him off at some remote location in the bush? Maybe hoping it would teach him a lesson? But if this is true it’s no wonder the vagrants get aggressive. They become like junk yard dogs because that is how they are treated. Please don’t take offense this is meant to be constructive criticism. Have a blessed day all. And forgive them for they know not what they do.
This situation has gone from bad to worse. It also represents a total break-down in our moral fiber as a nation. This issue, like proper garbage collection, is a glaring reflection on just how backward and dunce we are as a nation, while highlighting deep cultural flaws in the way that we live. We make fun of these people and treat them like animals, instead of providing treatment for them and a safe place to live. Our culture has not evolved to the point where we understand why some of these issues occur and what remedies should be implemented. While the bourgeoisie class drive to their homes in upper Goodwill, Canefield, Beverly Hills and other suburban enclaves on the island, the wider society has literally gone to the dogs.
Amen to that! You speak the truth.
Scapegoat ! i hear they say people see.
I remember one time sitting in court and Gravity had a case. The man was telling the judge to hurry so he can be up Stockfarm in time for lunch.
so, this man is basically going to sit and do nothing and get fat on tax payers money.
plain and simple
the end
These types of people do not care. While in high school, prior to going to school one morning I overheard a woman say in patois/creole, if she was in prison she would have had breakfast already. She was walking on the street of Roseau near where we resided when she made that comment. She had a young child who would always be with her. Both were unkempt. I do not think she was such a bad person; probably a troublesome one who got herself in trouble from time to time. I often wonder if that woman is still alive and what happened to her daughter.
When in prison they get three meals. Their belly is full. On the contrary outside, they may be hungry and wanting a good meal.
they charge gravity like really?
What you want them to do? Leave him out in the street for you to be his next victim?
Oh leave him out to kill somebody else? Gravity has always been aggressive. In my opinion no one charged with murder should be entitled to a bail hearing.
The country need to help these people. Put them in the pink house. The prime minister should think of using the CBI money to build a facility to help these people. They are human beings. They are peoples children, relatives, old school mates. It seems we move on in life and forget the person awe played with when we were young. What a disappointing thing going on.
and who said they dont have a facility.get your facts before u speak.
Whifer, where is that facility?
Conscious what has YOUR contribution been to any one of these people? Remember what happens when you are pointing fingers
Is gravity competent for trial? Does he understand the charge befor him?? How does this man stand trial in a court and he is considered unfit for trial???? Someone explain…
He is considered by whom? The public can just wily nily decide he is not fit? Unless you are the trained psychiatrist who has examined him you cant say patat so be quiet and let the court do its job. The court will appoint the right person for his evaluation and decision. You watching too much tv
Just so you know, vagrant does NOT = unfit to plead or unfit to stand trial.
You say Dominica is a better place now that he is gone? I say Heaven is a better place now that he is there . Forgive you for you know not what you say.
Wow C Frazer I assume you were the one feeding, clothing and sheltering him right?
if Gravity did this crime then lets say his family gets him a lawyer then the only punishment he is going to get is being detained at the psychiatric hospital for the rest of his life. he is not too right in the head and i would not even waste tax payers money on a trial.
How will one as he be kept indoors? It appears he would have to be strongly medicated to calm him so that he does not run away and cause harm. I wonder if the prison is not better for him, for life. The Court will have to decide that.
Gravity say he killed Andy, how come’s little tony doh saying nothing? he is usually the first one on the scene. when the guy confessed to fire bombing G Emanuel home he said don’t accept his confession, now Gravity confess and they accept his confession? something very fisheee.
getto yout , U hit the nail on the HEAD,
How U could think of that so fast? that’s exactly what it is little TONY should talk now those scoundrels
Gravity should be incarcerated for life. If he is out in society, he will kill again. He also needs psychiatric assessment.
Gravity my foot!
My heart hurt when I found out about Andy?Now it really breaks for Gravity. Both of these men have been abused and cast outside to fend for themselves worst than stray dogs. When people in our society end up like this we should take a long look in the mirror and ask ourselves ” could I have done something to help these less fortunate? When I lived in Dominica Gravity would carry all my bags to my bus stop when I was too weak to do it myself. Yes I paid him but he never stole from me and he was just as polite as anyone else in town. As for Andy shame on the people who made him do push-ups for a dollar! He was mentally ill not a clown for your entertainment. I am glad he is dead and I hope Gravity dies sooner than later. I am sure they will both go straight to heaven because their lives have been pure hell in Dominica.At least he will get food in prison? He may be just locked up to get another vagrant off the streets? God bless them.
@ C Fraser: You can sugar coat it all you want and play holier than thou, but the fact remains is in life we all make the choices that we end up with.
Both Gravity and Andy CHOSE to do drugs. Repeat: THEY CHOSE THAT LIFESTYLE!!
So coming and talk about they ‘have been abused and cast outside to fend for themselves worst than stray dogs’ is taking the sentiment a bit too far.
Remember the famous saying we were taught as children, “How you make your bed is so you lie down on it”
Wow. That’s not being “holier than thou”, that’s being compassionate to the least among us, even if they became so through their own poor choices.
C Fraser just want noticing. Braying about things they don’t even know
They did drugs. Someone sought them out and gave it to them. They got hooked on it and they kept giving it to them which completely destroyed them, their brains.
I wonder, “What will Jesus say – WWJS?
Whoever gave them illegal drugs will be answerable to God. Whoever ill-treated them, especially Andy, what happened to him during life and prior to what Gravity did to him. will be answerable to God.
If Gravity is also a mental case, I assume that God will forgive him due to his mental incapacity.
Just as the President, Pm, leader of the opposition, ministers and Ps’s votes are equal to the poorest man in the streets; even so every man’s soul is vitally important to God! Who else wants your soul? Satan! Why? to attempt to destroy God’s creation of his likeness and image! Satan has nothing good planned for creation but a promise of turmoil and burning!
God, has so many plans that he went to prepare mansions for us. The bible says 1000 years for man is like 1 day for God! Think about it! a man hardly makes it to 80. Do the math! If i can live for ever after i have already lived here for 80 years then i have scored big time.
If i only live half day in God’s time here and still perish in eternity to come then i have lost big time! I cannot risk that opportunity!
While i am here i’d rather not partake in things which are contrary to God’s commandments which are written in the bible. Do you know that every chapter in the bible leads or follows Jesus? Hmmm
I praise you…
Lets keep it real, nobody not sad this man is gone… You all act like he was the next prime minister or something but wouldn’t even look at him for 5 seconds. Dominica is now a better place that he is gone and thats a fact
We’re not acting like he’s the prime minister. We’re upset that a helpless man was taken advantage of. But now I understand why he was, because another crazy man killed him. just like when the soocoyah that have the restaurant in town burned him a few months ago we all reacted in anger
omg what a sad comment. He was a human being
Why the hell are you so damn heartless?
Who said nobody is sad this man is gone? He was a person and should have been treated as you expect others to treat you – The Golden Rule.
Why is Dominica a better place that he is gone? The fact is, did he harm anyone?
It took another transient to kill him.
He was destroying our tourism industry by begging tourist for coins and standing up half naked on the bayfront, He also troubled local business people which is why one poured hot water on him in the middle of roseau, y’all Dumbnicans dont care because he not in allu eyesight, when allu go home he is the last thing on allu mind, but people in town have to see mista constantly… Gravity had to deal with him everyday so he get fedup, simple
Lol. You are an ignorant person. Dominica would be better if people like you was gone. Nobody deserves to be killed. All lives matter. What is the worst thing that that man could do to you other than beg for a dollar? If you want to talk about something, talk about how the government is running Dominica into ruins.
Hitler had the same philosophy about the physically impaired, mentally retarded, homosexuals, political opposition, gays, lesbians, the Jews…and not to forget the blacks! In the end he could not even cope with himself and took his own life. Charming thought!
You’d take your own life too if the entire world was at your door step to capture you, moron. Blacks kill commit suicide when police come after them, let alone you have the entire world coming after you…. Use your head
We wanted off the streets but not dead.
You that Dominican Passports need Jesus just like all of us. You are such an insensitive, unloving, uncaring person. You must have been subjected to some pain. Oh my oh my how I feel sorry for you. LORD cover this man and let your love spirit cover him.
i think i read that gravity has info or connected to other death of vagrants? i’m not sure how true that is but we have yet to find out about the death of wasin pak who was murdered in new town. and this same gravity had the nerve to meet some of the relative and brag about killing him. now we going get to the bottom of it i’m sur cause the hand of justice is spinning
That’s why skerit must go
He may very well be connected to the other deaths. I hope the police interrogated him properly.to weed out this information from him.
This is a partial good news till he is punished severely to suit the crime. What about the people who burnt him? Were they ever brought before the court of justice? I am sure that I am not the only one who would like to know the outcome because too many crimes go unpunished in Dominica.
When you are “connected” in Dominica you are judged by different standards, or not at all. Justice in our country is like a piece of rubber, its flexibility depending on who you are.
Sorry but sad to say, the matter relating to the burning of Andie was thrown-out or dismissed.
Hmmm. Gravity soon out. Just a shame. A miracle they doe say he mad n unfit for trial
There is a need to enact laws and policies to deal with vagrancy. The vagrants feel a sense of hopelessness, people think of them as mere menaces, families repudiate them and they are left to languish on the streets. On our daily routines, we pass these people on the road with indifference as if they are vapor. We, as a society, need to be more empathetic.
how do you know that… why Dominicans like to generalise so.. I have bought Gravity food on numerous occasions and have seen others do it at the market and more recently in the Old Market area close to the Soufriere busstop where he now frequents. No one is gonna bring Gravity into their home but trust me several persons have taken change and buy a soft drink and bread or a cocoa tea and bakes. Stop coming on DNO and generalise. Talk about what YOU do and what YOU see RIP Andy.
Guess, “Gravity” is not well connected then for him to be charged so quickly. You see Madam DPP the wheels of justice can move very fast if necessary. Now, when can we expect charges against the alleged arsonist in the case of Gon. Emmanuel? Who/what is holding you up?
So the suspect’s name is “Gravity” and he lives in Kings Hill? Oh boy, Gravity will pull him down the hill; Cause is down he going.
Wrong place and time.
I really do hope that the police has conducted a proper investigation and did not implicate Gravity due to his situation.
I also hope that the authorities will afford Gravity free legal representation if he is unable to afford a lawyer so he can get a fair trial.
Let’s hope it’s not a matter of Peter paying for Paul.
Aren’t you wondering who will help Andy’s mom bury him? And what would be the motive of the police to “implicate Gravity due to his situation?”
SMFH! You people are twisted.
I believe Phillip Joseph should pay for gravity lawyer since he is so keen on defending him, man just be the lawyer. Heck with Andy and his mom just take over Gravity, twisted folks for real
Do you not know that everyone gets lawyer representation if they cannot afford it?
Gravity should have been in care long before now.
Is it perhaps the availability of entitlements that let “Gravity” survive in Dominica as a vagrant so well-known as to have a signature nickname? The thing about entitlements is that they are yours regardless of misbehavior. He was able to exist in a bubble in which even murder was simply a new game. How caring of you to hope he gets a free lawyer (another entitlement). How caring of Ibo France to imagine “Gravity’s” despair rather than his free ride, and to call for “we as a society” to do even more. How caring of you to hope that Peter doesn’t pay Paul. In your perfect world, no one has to pay; there are benefits and never any costs. In this real one, someone always does pay. The readers call for us to react to the effects of welfarism with more welfare. Who is the more insane?
Interesting!
I also hope that charging Gravity is not an easy way out of getting vagrants out of the streets as well. Hmmm
vagrant killing Vagrant
The streets cleaning themselves
While our CBI money is being used to buy votes across the country,and to foist upon us unfair election,the vagrants cannot get their share.Those nobrainers and numskulls in the corrupt DLP are only concerned about ….. elections,and not with the poor man..SHAME ON THESE GREEDIES!Seem like “Grafity” did not like the competition on the street.Very sad indeed!!
RIP ANDY!
You had to bring Politics into it and make yourself sound like the beast with the long ears…..
The irony in physics and phys ed. is that gravity makes doing push ups hard. Gravity killed pushups..
That joke dry like crix
Wrong place and time. I wonder if you would have seen any “irony” here if “push ups” were related to you, even remotely.
smh. Something going on in the country.
Gravity is mentally insane and should have been taken off the streets a long time ago. This man cannot stand trial for anyone’s death as he himself needs psychological help. SMH
I thought the same, until I started hearing that he ‘appears” to be linked to other deaths/murders. That he ‘allegedly said he should be the only vagrant, so killed Andy. Bottom line is its very unfortunate and sad that it has taken this violence for some to realise the problems on the street need urgent attention.
well i am sorry but i was one on the bayfront that morning and i heard with my own ears gravity say that he killed him because “he was always troubling him” i don’t know if he was joking but he did not appear to be. that’s when the officer gave the order to arrest him. this guy died in a similar way as another vagrant who also struck in the head allegedly by this same gravity. may God help them.