Three Haitians residing in Dominica were each fined EC$3,500.00 to be paid on or before October 31, 2013 or spend 18 months in jail.
The men pleaded guilty to the offence of “Cheating” when they appeared before chief magistrate Evalina Baptiste on April 18, 2013.
According to the facts presented in court by police prosecutor Inspector Claude Weekes, 38-year-old Selian Willio, who resides at Roger and 27-year-old Noel Erncy who resides in Coulibistrie went to the honorary consulate of the Netherlands in Dominica, in an attempt to get a visas to travel to St. Maarten with false and forged job letters from a Thomason Brade of St Joseph who, investigations revealed, is dead.
The other offender, Jean-Mary Anatel, 34, presented a forged job letter from Andy Paul and a photo copy of Paul’s Security card.
A employee at the Dutch consulate spotted the discrepancies and called the police.
Paul was contacted and though he admitted to knowing Anatel, denied giving him the said documents.
Lawyer for Willio, Wayne Norde, asked the court not to impose a custodial sentence on his client who he said was a first time offender in Dominica had fully co-operated with the police, not wasted the courts time and pleaded guilty at the first opportune time. Erncy and Anatel did not have legal representation but they apologized for their indiscretion and asked the court to be lenient and not to impose a custodial sentence on them.
Before sentencing, the chief magistrate told the men that their actions were unacceptable. “You ought to know better…your actions were bold, of poor judgment and cannot be tolerated,” she said.
However, she said that since they were first time offenders and had also pleaded guilty to the offence, she was bound as mandated by law, to give them a “discounted sentence.”
The offence carries a maximum sentence of EC$10,000.00 and 7 years in jail.
@justice and truth..yes u need to know so u wont make those ignorant comment.
Isnt this a white colour crime? Guess the magistrate is waiting on them to start counterfieting out money , to consider there actions as serious.
when dominicans do their crime time over seas no mercy for us but when foreigners do they have discounted shit?
I wonder how many Dominicans went to B/dos to get visa with false job letters and bank accounts, to try to get in to the USA and when they get it they over stay, i am saying that not only Hatians cheat,Dominicans cheat too, lol..
when Dominicans commit fraud in another land and are caught, they are severely punished, usually jailed and deported. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Its only a fool that will rejoice when a foreigner disrespects his country. Furthermore its hypocritical to consider what they did “cheating”. Cheating is a misdemeanor. Copying on a class exams is cheating. They are guest on this island and should act like such not defecate on the countries laws.
Cheating??? What happen, they in a class-room man???
“discounted sentence” How? She removed V.A.T too?
Everytime someone commits an offense for their first time,no matter how serious it is,there’s an excuse by some lawyer,magistrate or judge as if to say one has to be given the chance to commit the offense multiple times before being punished.Will these Haitians be deported?I’ve noticed that the only people in Dominica who does not seem to have any rights in their own land is Dominicans themselves. :
really? tht lil cash they charge them? I bet if it was a dominican tht,he or she would be in real deep sh… all where those pple der go they trynah spoil d country name. weh boy
So many young Dominican men are presently rotting in jail because they dared smoke a little spliff. yet illegal Haitian migrants can come here and commit fraud/forgery and other factors that will put Dominica’s name in the immigration dustbin of foreign embassy’s yet they get away with a slap of the wrist. If it was a Dominican in any foreign land he would have been deported back to d/a yet the Haitians are left to “be more careful” next time
A Dominican young man college student can be kept in jail for money laundering without bail but criminals from Haiti can come here forge people documents and get minimum sentence or walk away free in the same court. I know for sure that there is only one righteous judge who has to judge all judges.
First I thought it was cheating on an exam, then I thought it was cheating on a spouse. Then I found it was for fraud. Headline misleading.
but more info is needed.the dominican have a say in dt.money vibz
well i must say those haitian is dam smart to get a dead man signature he maybe pay the person who fool him avery big money
They are tricky and not to be trusted.
Makes you wonder if any of them appear on the voters’ register?
Haitians are human being just as anybody else i am so proud Dominica have illagal like the USVI all over have charters the same trick we know in english they do know in their own so they are not to stupid they see how others surviving by corruption so they join as well
Are they charged for “Cheating” or is it an act of fraud!!!
It is fraud – forgery. They should get a heavier sentence as being sentenced to prison with hard labor. I do not think the Canadian Court System would make them pay a fine or solely a fine. They would be sentenced to prison for forgery. This is a serious offence. If they are not landed immigrants they would also be deported.
These Haitians do that all the time, for work permit and other documents to stay in Dominica, they do that all the time. The authorities must be more vigilant when dealing with these people, they are very deceptive and cunning. The Government must crack down on them from now on.
It seems the judges in Dominica only has heart for foreigners.i wonder how much she would have charged a Local. Its obvious they don’t want to be here so why not send them back? Is leave they were trying to leave anyways
I agree with you. They deserve to be deported to Haiti.
life is hard give them a change k.
What they did was a crime. Not when they planned to leave Dominica and commit forgery to do so. Let us say if they had paid their passage and traveled to St. Maarten or another country and were sent back, this would be another story. In any case if they did not have landed status in Dominica or are not citizens, immigration of that country could have deported them to Haiti.
Haitians in Dominica are like Nigerians in d a UK! Dominicans need to b careful.
And Dominicans are like Haitian everywhere else. We as a country and region will never see full development if we never realize that each person is an individual who have merits based on their own individual accord.
Each individual is not the same. No one ask to be born and no one ask to where to be born. That is just predetermined factors a child has no control over and tends to follow them into adulthood.
In every society you have your thief (who are usually politicians), rapist, the good guy/gal and the whore down the street regardless of origin. It all exists wherever you are. Nationality has nothing to do with it.
Get an education whoever you are.
Let Haitians defend themselves, if they are clever enough to forge and defraud, then they should be clever enough to defend themselves!
If a Dominican goes to a foreign land and violate their laws, he/she should be punished accordingly, so when a Haitian come here illegally in the first place and still have the gall the break other laws, then they should be punished and then deported.
Its only a foolish people that allow foreigners to come in and take advantage of their generosity.
Watch your words. When you say “Dominicans are like Haitians everywhere else”, you have greatly erred. You are implicating every Dominican. We are not all the same. There are many Dominicans who reside worldwide who do not cheat people and do not steal from them. They do not have a police record. When the majority of them migrated to other countries their intentions were to work and they did.
You are the one who should get an education because what you have stated is out of context and does not refer to this article.
i like that!
I second that you are sooooooooooooooo right and they are doing better in DA than the native because they are trying to survive make ends meet we have to buy from them now we Dominican hate the soil now no time for it anymore is customs is our garden now
Not only in the UK but also in Canada and the US. I watched a program on TV about those in the US, his crimes and how many times he was deported to Nigeria and returned. It was also stated that this man has a degree. I hope it was legitimate.
Only this week there was another case in Canada. A Nigerian was being sought by the police authorities. I heard he turned himself in. Some of them are crooks. They use these countries to ply their illegal trade of various sorts, stealing from people and advising them that their money is used for investment. They are full of tricks. People must be aware of them.
When people are desperate, they will do anything. Next thing they will even kill. Let them pay their fine and send them back to Haiti. If you keep them, they will always try some other scheme. Don’t u all know they don’t care if they drown in the ocean just to get to America or Jamaica? These people have nothing, so they don’t care trying anything to survive. Take heed Dominica.
No i disagree with you you was’t happy when they send you from the VI to DA
The so-called DA Justice System is not always fair How fair on most occasions. You will recall a few years ago a man was deported/asked to leave Dominica for overstaying his visit. No plea would make the magistrate compassionate. From what I read on DNO, this was a hardworking man.
Now, they are harboring Haitians who forged Dominicans name, one who was dead to gain entry to St. Maarten and to work there. They know how far, to other countries, they would have traveled to were they successful with their deceit. Such a crime deserves severe punishment, not a few dollars to be paid by October 31st. Are they employed? Where will they get the money?
They know how far, to other countries, they would have traveled to were they successful with their deceit.
Dominicans, beware of befriending such people. There is such a thing as “identity theft”, stealing your name which is the crime that some of them commit. Is this not a serious crime enough to warrant deportation from Dominica?
Let me inform you. If I were a PM, a judge or magistrate in Dominica, this would never happen. No unfairness in the Court. No freebies and leniency for criminals. The Law must be changed and those who are the judges, magistrates and in the legal system should be re-trained. This is the manner in which I see it.
The Court System is digging its own hole. Dominica will never be free of criminals. They will escalate. Dominican-born residents must do something about that and take back their country, not by violence but my contacting your PM and politicians in the constituency. Prayerful and peaceful rallies should be organized. God will help you but you must take action. In the Name of God, please, no violence.
like your comment but i live in St. Martin and i am from Dominica and the very same way you are considering the Haitians it is the same way the St. Martiners are considering us every thing that goes wrong in their country it is lying , cheating, criminals, murderers DOMINICANS they say that is committing those crimes, at some point or the other we will be strangers in some one else s country but that doesn’t mean you are a criminal, but with the Haitians it is some thing that is well known they are professionals in fraudulent acts as to forge documents and rest a sure that will not stop them, if they are able to make passport what else will they not do?
There is a tendency to judge everyone because of the actions of a few. Sorry to hear that all Dominicans are branded in St. Maarten because of a few. Is it possible for Dominican voices to be heard and the good Dominicans stand up for their rights through the Media and politicians?
In Toronto it is mainly the Jamaicans. I guess this is why they are branded per population. I do not hear about any Dominicans who reside in Toronto get themselves in trouble with the Law or murder someone.
I am an avid TV News viewer. I like to hear what is occurring in the city/ country and also read the newspaper. Surely if there were any especially in recent years I would hear about it through the Media broadcast and read about it in the newspaper.
You a contradiction.
You are so correct look at the two senior counslels one seling passport like hot jackeries the other one taking all Gov’t corruption cases.
The old cliche, “did not waste the Court’s time” and “first-time offender” which I view as a joke and a slap in the face to the victims. Dominican-born residents must be frustrated with this Court System and the criminals’ legal defense. I feel it and I do not reside in DA.
Some people get away with a lot in the Dominican Court with this type of Law which needs to be revamped. I had asked how old is this Law and when last was it revised? Today, Dominica has a different set of criminals of every sort compared to bygone years.
Their crimes of those Haitians are serious enough to be fined the maximum amount and sentenced to prison.
These people are not patriotic to Dominica. They are using Dominica and also as their gate to other shores.
They should really be deported. Why keep such people in the island? Sometime down the road, in the future, probably sooner than we expect, Dominicans will pay for this and reap the fruits in a worst way of the leniency of the DA Court. Mark my words.
Agree with you, this is a serious offence having falsified documents/dead person identity this is identity theft which is a felony, which ranges from a number of years in prison, a hefty fine and deportation, for the woman to be pitiful for them Haitians and charging them this peanuts this is ridiculous, as far as I know Haitians are notorious for this type of activities, this is not Haitians first time committing such crime on the island,how much do they have to do in order to deport them back to their country?,how many of them are travelling with dead people’s names and information?, how many, there’s no excuse whatsoever for these type of criminal activities, imagine not using their real name and identities, when they migrate to wherever continuing their dirty trade, imagine being caught,and hear on the news, a Dominican do so and so, where as it it not a Dominican but a Haitian
Florida and other parts of the USA, and other countries had enough with them, many of them are deportees and big time criminals who will do all that they can to change their identity to migrate to the same USA etc
I am wondering how many of the Haitians prisoners/the prison escapees who fled Haiti during the disaster are now residing in Dominica
Haitians are bad news for Dominica, keep on welcoming them it is just a matter of time
Just see what Wyclef Jean did with the money his charity raised for Haiti what he did with the money. The singer, who made an unsuccessful bid for Haiti’s presidency in 2010, reportedly paid himself $100,000 to perform in a charity concert and gave his family over $500,000 for unspecified work. Also, $37,000 was paid by Yele to cover the rent of Jean’s Manhattan studio this is to show that not only the poor Haitians involve in fraud also the rich
just the begening more to come and this is y all hatians should be deported
what about all those Dominicans overseas that commit crime?? should they be sent back here?
yes they should!!!! they are dominica’s problem and the hatians are haiti problem
when we keep saying things like more to come all we doing is cursing our country and when more come we surprised and blaming the government. There is power in the tongue people. Power is our thoughts as well. We have to watch what we say and confess over our land. to much curses and not enough blessings
I know you have relative in USVI that is illegal don’t say to much
sicko!
and how did they come up with a name of someone who is deceased?? Do they go staring at grave site and pick a name randomly?? Or are they that well informed and that is a technique being used to acuqire documents fraudulently?
Excellent question. Who knows? It was not stated how long ago the person had died and if this Haitian knew the person. Nevertheless, it could happen that names are taken from tombstones. I believe this has happened in big countries.
In this era of forgery, it would be wise not to put their full names and year of birth and death on their tombstones. Some people have yet not to give this a thought. They should consider it.
thats a really big discount considering the maximum fine….i must try to let that lady sell me something valuable oui
This is not new with Hatians. They are all over in the world trying to survive and forging names is nothing new with them. However the difference is, in other parts of the world that they reside in, I have always heard of them producing false papers to get better paying jobs, move family members, or to become permanent residents. I never heard of them forging documents to run from a country. When Haitians are caught forging papers to run out of a country, you know it is a sign that things are extremely bad in that country to the point that they will try to flee by all means possible. This is just a reflection of how real life is in Dominica under Skerrit and since they might not be able to vote, they cannot get service from the RED ClINIC. The only reason why more Dominicans not fleeing is because they are trapped and have no money to pay their way out. Give Skerrit and the DLP another term in office and soon all our red ants, all our snakes, all crapos, all abolos and zandolies will try to run out as well. I am Not joking friends!
What makes you think that they did not or would not forge documents to enter the country? How do you know?
fined for cheating?thats not cheating thats forgery.
Not surprised to see what I consider another failure in our judicial system. This is fraud at a very high level, but the punishment is a light slap on the wrist.
It is a downright shame and incompetence on the Judicial System.
“on the part of” the Judicial System.
i am from from dominica and living in st. maarten for more than 36 years and know these people very good . and where ever they go ; they dose the same . always having the wrong berth paper ‘ always want to pay u any amount of money for your passport . in the late 70 stys .they used to change pictures on the passport and put theres ; here is the answer ;there is plenty of work in haiti now . send these people back home ‘ they dosent want to stay in dominica ‘they just want to used da as a sprin board to get where they want to go” send them home
This warrants deportation since their plan was leave dominica anyway! Haitians are not interested in being here
Has the court/our laws heard of the word “DEPORTATION”? Discounted sentence??? What the heck am I hearing! The REAL Dominicans who are in stockfarm rotting for lesser crimes should get a discount too!
@ truth offends
I certainly agree with you , tell them that again.
Chinese and Spanish doing worst than them. They are too sootiweh .
Ok, lets say the magistrate is bound by the law and had to imposed a discounted fine, why that hudge discount???? why could,nt have been $9,999.00 each dosent that account for a discount? Noted how clever the two other defendants were they did not have council to represent them, but cleaverly used the same plea used by the trained Lawyer and was handed the same sentence. Dominicans take note and learn,in time to come the lawyers will just stay at their offices and mitigate via social media in the manner they are doing right now. Our Haitian brothers and sisters are living all over our Island, but they are not prepared to stay in Dominica as is in this case,soon we will need a task force to track them Down.
That is all they they were charged.. smh
make them pay fine and deport them, they always want do ilegal things
Those people are just passing through and if they choose to love DA they will stay so thank god you could talk about deporation after so many of us being deported just like them
The Haitians used Dominica as their port of entry to get to order destinations and they are making things bad for other Dominicans. The government should stop them from doing this.
@Cutielove, Be real and stop hating on them Hatians. You said them Haitians are making things bad for other Dominicans and government should stop them? I don’t know how correct you are because the last time I checked, Haitians were not amongst criminals caught and arrested for doing bad things, with Dominican passports. That’s what the government must stop.
‘other’ destinations
That’s very sad indeed. Hope lessons taught, lessons learnt. Oh desperation, desperation!!!
“discounted sentence” ???
i never hear that one yet
that is because you dont go to court
Seriously…then its obvious u do not read or follow court matter. There is discounted sentences.
DNO, I know some Chinese in Dominica with some local names. I wonder how they got those names hmnnn. I Dominica…
Some of you sound so shameful. Don’t you know that there are chinese that were born in Dominica.
boss you talking crap, chiness doing worst than haitians
Whether they were born in Dominica, who are their parents? Are their parents Dominicans to give them a Dominican name? Having stated that, if they are children who have Dominican names, their parents are smart to give their children those names. In this case they could travel to any part of the world undetected, passing as Dominicans and not Chinese people when their features are Chinese. What a melee.
@CB BOSS, Stop being naïve boss. I was born and raised in Dominica and I know the difference between a person from another race that was born in DA and one that just appeared from nowhere with a Dominican name and last name. All Dominicans either speak English, broken English, creole / patrois, cocoy etc. When a grown Chinese that never grew up in your neighbourhood, does not know a word in English or creole, yet all of a sudden he has a Dominica passport…Boy, truth offends!
I know of 2 chinese-Dominicans who i went to school with back in the day.
They represented D/ca nationally in swimming. And won medals in the name of Dominica…
1 thing though, their names were still of Chinese decent.
“think”
truth offends you are such an idiot. Dont people change their names all the time? How many movie stars use their birth names? isnt it easier to be John Su than Hu ching ping? Stupes they buy the name by whitchurch, thats where they get them from, stuuuupid.
A las I feel sorry for some of you and those who gave you the thumbs up. I mean you do not know whats going on around you. When a Chinese national migrant to Dominica they are given and English name. Similarly when Dominicans migrate or temporary migrate, like the students who go to study they are given Chinese names. Thats part of allowing the smooth transition.
Really? It is not something we are bound to know. No big deal here. Why should they change their names? It is as when some people change their religion to Islam.
They always show their true colour every when they go, no matter how much you try to help them they have to turn around and screw people up. I say deport them immediately after they pay their fines. Haiti……The greatest nightmare on earth.
shame on you
That’s the same thing that they were doing all over Florida and other parts of the USA, this is the reason why they deported many of them back to Haiti, also the reason why when caught on the waters the coast guard send them back to Haiti
As I always said, Haitians are using Dominica and Dominicans, there’s more to come, this is a matter, why keep them in Dominica, any other country they would be deported right back to Haiti
Haitians will never learn
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shame on you
Because this act was done by Haitians, I know we will be harsh on them and call them all kinds of names. But people from all nations do this type of thing. In the case of the Haitians they were just trying to run away from Dominica because they realize Skeritt has left them with know hope since they killed agriculture and they cannot even hire those nationals that got scholarships. So it is a sign of hopelessness and desperation and very soon, we will see many more Dominicans try to get out.
Bye the way, I did not know it was a crime in Dominica for a person to forge the name of a dead person to the point that it was even investigated. In the 2010 elections, didn’t I hear the names of some dead people that voted? Were they investigated as well? Boy, me daba
Do u sign your name after voting?
How do u know the names of the ppl that voted? So much so to know that crap? Y does everything have to be about politics and skeritt? Well well what skeritt did to all u there well bad…….
@767, Why are you pretending to be so silly? Have u ever voted my friend? Although u don’t have to sign your name to vote, you should know that in Dominica a voting list is produced in every village. On election poll workers have that list and whenever a person comes to vote, they identify your name from the list and then cross it out once found. How do you know the name of ppl that vote you asked? That’s why we need voters ID.
A crime is a crime. We should make no excuses for crimes.
What do you know? What are you stating that you did not know it was a crime to forge someone’s name? Whether it is in Dominica or any other country, it is a crime and punishable.
We did not learn this in school but common sense should inform us that it is a crime, taking and using another’s name. How would you like someone to forge your name? You could lose your identity and it would take years with much anxiety and stress and expensive to convince the government that you are that person. This happens in big countries. I have heard and read about it. Those crooks even sell people’s house while they are living in it and pocket the money.
Forgery and identity theft should be a concern for us.
We are also told not to throw anything with our names on them in the garbage but to shred them prior to placing them in the garbage bin. Also, do not give anyone our confidential and personal information over the telephone and also via the Internet. Those crooks are everywhere.
profiteering from a need to survive,the Haitian were wrong but the fine is excessive that a warning to others