Two more charged in kidnapping case
Dominica News Online - Tuesday, March 20th, 2012 at 7:09 PM
Allan (left), Phillip
Two more persons are facing kidnapping charges following an incident on March 10, 2012.
The two have been identified as Desmond Phillip and Shirley Allan.
They appeared in the Roseau Magistrate’s Court on Tuesday where they were charged and remanded.
The two joined Jan Bedminster, Kimon Beaupierre and Dilon Alexander were charged with “unlawfully and forcefully kidnapping” Deon Hakim Alfred and Leon “Dopie” Joseph.
Joseph and Alfred were reported missing on March 11th, 2012 by their relatives.
According to the police both men were last seen around 9pm on March 10th, 2012.
The incident reportedly took place in Yam Piece.
The whereabouts of the missing men remain unknown.
In court police prosecutor Inspector Claude Weekes strongly objected to bail stating that, “investigations into the matter is going and while the matter is bail-able it’s a serious crime in Dominica and elsewhere.”
He told the court that he feared that the accused persons if granted bail would interfere with the ongoing investigations. “Bail is not closed to them, firearm is alleged to be involve in the crime and we are also in search of other persons so at this time we are opposed to bail be granted to them,” Weekes stated.
Upon hearing that bail was being objected to, Phillip burst into tears asking the Magistrate to consider that he has a young child. “I have a little boy, I go to the Deliverance Baptiste Church….I don’t know how I happen to be in that situation, I was just at the wrong place at the wrong time,” Phillip told the court in tears.
In her submission, Gina Dyer Munroe, lawyer for Allan, told the court that her client “was not a flight risk and has co-operated fully with the police.”
“There can be no evidence linking this 45-year-old mother with this crime. To withhold her liberty is unfair and a travesty of justice, Your Worship could be minded to impose stringent measures in granting bail and further more she is a first time offender,” Dyer-Munroe told the court.
However, Magistrate Candia Carette George said the police needed much more time for their investigations and while she understood the submissions by counsel she was withholding bail and the matter would be reviewed in a few weeks time. She ordered partial submissions by Friday March 23, 2012 and the rest by June 30, 2012.
The matter is set for July 30, 2012.
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148 Comments
Whatever you plant,so shall you reap.God is not a police.If you did participate in the crime,then you gotta do the time…..Lord please deliver our lil Dominica and turn away the people from their wicked ways…….
Lord please deliver us from bigots,
And all ignorant fools who are unable to
Think objectively!!!
Telling the officers good job makes absolutely no sense peeps,the ones they has to arrest are the ones their paying no mind.you’ll keep posting useless comments on dno,you all heard what people thinks they know none of us knows what really happened its all about say say….and I mean come on be considerate,think differently you guys are much wiser,stop act dumb it could be any of us or family member in this situation comment wisely think differently sigh#Typical Dominicans
well the chines have to build a bigger jail house or the hospital?
Rachel That’s why FIRE and BRIMESTOME will rain on all you in that place. All you mouth, all dirty, sticking, evil lying tounge is a CURSE upon the land! All you ain’t see nothing yet… DNO you paosted Rachel libel against me, so don’t sanctimonous now, be fair and post my reply! Not that I care about what people say using the protection of annonimity, All I need to tell them is marsh, but I need to make a statement here.
BRIMSTONE!!!!
Shirley you love attention too much. It’s a pity DNO took off my comment but I know you saw it. You know in your heart what I wrote is the truth. Try going to Dominica and prove mwe wrong.
Good luck in your job search!
Seriously tell me it’s not the real Shirley Allan that is carrying on like that. Lady all where you go is the same behaviour. Fire and brimstone will rain on whom in what place? so why are you still injecting yourself in things that go on in the place you calling damnation on. Sister Shirley I expect better from you, it’s not everything you must respond too.
de papa that had the van,he know all the story he part of it to.
Yes arrest dem self caz is her daughter nana and her drugs husband who kidkidnap dem n dre boat was waitin for dem fondcole nana is in guadeloupe i hope all u contact the french authourity on this situation firee born nana n her family allu will pay GOD NOT NO POLICE ALLU WILL PAY ASK for yan n custo two teeth wen dey gwada dey even hve guts to tie up ppl look story but allu hve to pay justice isay i say
but who has d “contour fit machine”, want to know if dem man get their money machine
One thing that the articles don’t mention, nor the comments, is what the boys were kidnapped for. People don’t just go to such extremes for no reason. Not that it is right doing anything of that sort but just saying. Play with dogs and get fleas.
play with dog and get flea wat,if u was freaking listening to mart in d morning u would hear for wat doe freaking jump and say wtf u want. wat them ppl do was freaking wrong no matter how u put it.
So because you all are parents you can’t take jail. Jail was not made for animals, is people it was made for. People who don’t like freedom and get involved in too much nonsense. Yampiece, Stockfarm, Tarish Pit, Gutter… is poverty and slum but that doesn’t say to accept money to kidnap and do all crimes. More you all poor is more you all stupid. Then talk about Ghetto children blah blah blah… I am sorry for that place. If it was left to me I destroy that entire place and build a new…You not even hearing about silver Lake. Mucho poverty we. D/ca is bleeding.
what about silver lake? silver lake out of the map. they poor but they stupid.silver lake people have better things to do.
silver lake people not stupid
You are a fool and a defendants nightmare.
I pray nothing ever happens to any of
Your family so that they don’t
Have to face biased judgements like yours
Idiot
Now u want too put God in your drama….Why u did not call on God first before u found ur self in that mess!! shame on alu!!she have 2 boys…the same thing they self doing!! stealing like no body business….. they too wicked…..despite what!! they had no rights to help with the kidnapping of the boys..!!
big up the police in dominica…they are tryin their best…we dont wanna come like jamaica, full of guns , gangs and crime… these ppl go talk time they get 2 slap, they doh look like kidnappers, esp d womyel padna so they go talk…guess we can all say R.I.P to them fellas cus is big man, not shanice jemmot, they would come home already,,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1-ikzYCYAY&feature=related please open this link
bush say is one of deh child and husband that kill them man father mother and child in laws
I hope the Police read all this on DNO. It will help with the investigation, after all the bush have eyes.
Time 2 turn up the music in C.I.D.Someone needs to start talking.I say beat the ans.out of them.It worked for us.
jail cus i have children too. money and greed is the root of all evil. lifetime….
It is exactly what I have previously stated, we never know in what situation we will find ourselves in. This man has said it well or is he putting on an act, saying that he goes to the Baptist Church. This made me laugh.
So much for going to church. It is obvious that he has not been praying well but only going to church to fill the pew and to show his face.
I bet he was a Catholic Christian; still is for if so he was baptized and once baptized always baptized. God will not rescind what He has blest from on high to and on the earth. No one on earth could ever change this and re-baptize a person. St. Paul said: “There is one baptism. Many are ignorant of the fact and what is contained in Holy Scripture as some also interpret it to suit their mentality.
Associating with bad company surely corrupts and will put people in trouble. Better to stand up for what is right to do and refuse to get involved in criminal activities, no matter what and stay clean. He is crying that he has a child.
Did he not know that if he got involved in criminal activity that he would be caught? Few people are not caught. God knows who they all are who commit crimes, whether caught or not.
I wonder if their involvement in the kidnapping includes monetary payment.
Since he was arrested he should know something about the two who were kidnapped and therefore should divulge what he knows about them in the presence of his lawyer. It is better for him to come out clean and state what he knows.
Obviously, none of them should be granted bail. Even though the Law states that is a bail-able offence, I am unable to comprehend why they should ever be granted bail for two people have been kidnapped and they have not yet been found. This Law should be changed.
When criminals get caught, they do not go down alone or take imprisonment alone. They usually divulge their accomplices.
I am praying and hoping that those two men who were kidnapped are alive and well. The kidnapped men should be interrogated in the presence of their lawyers and asked to divulge what they did with them. The longer they keep silent, the worst it will be for them.
I would keep them in prison forever if they fail to divulge what happened to those young men. They not deserve to be free to walk the streets for what they have done to them. That should be the Law of the land.
Oh! so is Catholics alone that does do bad?
Pastors in non-Catholic churches are no good examples these days!!! It was only a matter of time to have seen through the shams.
First the phony impression was given that when one left the Catholic Church all financial problems were gone and blessings flowed like a river!!! Turns out those soft loans are constantly handed to church members and infighting to be treasurer and other executive members has reared its ugly head!!!!
News flash the Catholic Church has given Dominica the Credit Unions and has allowed persons to help themselves through such an institution
Second the Pastors though married are breaking hearts with mouths full of lies, deceit and manipulation of their flock.
Please be corrected and note that Deliverance Baptist Church is not a catholic church. Thank you.
why ur comments have to be sooo lengthy? on every damn topic? we get it u smart! geez..(eye rollin)
already some people doh have much time to read. I never see..
To me, those two look like a FORGET TO COMB my hair rasta, and a blazing alcoholic. These people do not look like kidnapers.. lol
What does a kidnapper look like?
the leaders of this church are woolf in sheep clothing……their sins will catch up with then
do you know the leader of this church. shut up!
Mr Phillip, whenever we pretend to be chirstians and we paticipate in coruption trust me our evil works will bring us to open shame….Before u did it u should remember u have a little boy u should think twice now its too late u are not a chirstian just a pretender….zort toh amieé fast money sans sway who are u trying to fool.
With people like you and your stupid solitary
One sided views, its a wonder anyone gets found
Innocent in Dominica. As a matter of fact, I know
Mr Phillip and know that this is a clear case
Of being in the wrong place at the wrong
time. Purely bad luck !
well i guess its a family thing,they thought they would be sittin down and eatin subway< stay home an pizza hut delivery< go by k.f.c. an pose wit their box< well is not so. talk all u have to talk. officers, torture dem, i bettin my bottom dollar dey no d whole story.all d time she runnin her mouth, sayin hw day will get wat comin 4 dem. but lookm it now in her face. bet she say boy if i had no. JAIL DEM I SAY. HOPE THE ALFRED FAMILY GET JUSTICE.
i like that comment hope they get justice because thats just stupidiness the person child just lost his life inoccently there, toucher them make them talk cut there lock or wat ever steel wood they have on there head, they calling there self parent no real mother or father would do such thing
It was about time. They are the 1st ones i would have pickup. WELL DONE OFFICERS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
ALL YOU BETTA ANSWER DE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I HAVE THE LEAN TAMA WEH SOAKING IN DE SEA WATER, DE CAT A NINE ON DE SIDE AND JAFETE LEATHER BELT…WHAT I HEARING THERE NOR…THOSE THING DOH BELONG HERE..
lol…that that good for them…lick it to them
they love again in de person….wow..murders
well sorry my people bt allu was in the wrong place at the wrong time
But how they just holding them so nuh fellers snitching man they just picking them up one after the other so. Them man not real criminals haha
Shirley Allan? Cheupssssssssss. Isn’t that ZIGILI from Gutter?
yes she is
aha it a self
mother and father in dat papa met
well my folks sorryyyyyy
For Admin,
Their names and images are published and they are her parents; that is fact.
I do not understand the reason for the censoring…
and you people better stop complaining on me ok
…i suspect DNO not posting my comments like before……this moderator doh like me pal
what hell great job, proud of what police?….so many unsolved crimes…those two cases that are hot now were smoking gun….
one person was shot and two others were probably captured while running away for the crime
scene….the next case had lots of eye witnesses
the police need to stop letting cases go cold after two months like most unsolved crime in Dominica do
JOB WELL DONE DOMINICA POLICE FORCE!
YOU EARN YOUR STRIPES AND MORE…
MAMI!!!PAPPIE!!!
NOR
LET ME WIPE MY EYES…AA….
“GRA MOON WEE, MAY PAPA BODIEA, ME DABAA”
SAY POE ZOR PALAY!
dont for get de to sisters of nana
boi, look things in DA. DA is the “fastest now.”
Not she dat giving u toilet paper nah? In d toilet by d North bus-stop?
So tell me, when you go use the toilet someone has to determine how much paper you need? How is it determined? By the size of your too bordai or what? Enlighten me….Eh beh weh!
Too funny.hahahah
Not the lady dat does be in de public toliet dhat on the marigot/ possie bus stop nuh ..
LOL
them poeple SICK!!!
No bail!! Let them talk
Upon hearing that bail was denied the gentleman (Phillip) burst into tears and cited his young son and the fact that he goes to the ‘Deliverance Baptist Church”. As though followers of that church are “made in heaven, not good for the earth souls who do not commit any crimes whatsoever”. What an argument for bail. Do our lawyers understand “the urgency of the now” given the spate of big crimes in Dominica? Are they imterested in giving Dominica a break to develop peacefully? Soon their tranquil, electronic gate protected domiciles at Morne Daniel and elsewhere will be over run by the criminals they assit to remain outside. Just for money. They behave like “money and more money paros”.
i tend to know thepeople accused of this heartless acts, please lord let the authurities get them and soon, is nt there a way to go or co orporate with the french authurities to b able to go get the girl and her husband in guadeloupe, that would b so handy, they were said to b seen there after having fled the island
SIR, YOU WAS AT THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME? “SA MOI KA TAN LA NOR”… TELL US WHAT HAPPEN AT THAT WRONG PLACE…..”SA POE ZOR PALAY”.
can somebody clear my mind.this woman look like she use to lived foncole…am i right..if is her.. to yrs ago i saw her at the registry looking so pretty..now how she looking so on ..DNO… news
yes that is her. wicked she wicked
money that have them doing all that, her daughter is tghe one involved , trcks she have looking sad and innocent , talking about church and all
Thats her daughter you saw. Her daughter looks like her.
well, i zm not in favour of any crimes nor criminal intents, and strongly beleives taht all offenders must pa the price, Nana and her husband should pay , let the government launch an international mandate for them, they can t have others paying for their offenses go get them in guadeloupe, i saw them there, and let the amily bury their kids, who are theyto ust take lives like that. franckly i am pissed t the bone grrrr!!!
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is that, eh eh!
Heads up, Shirley. You do get thumbs down for stupid questions.
All you Azozol wee Papa! WOW all you eat Fumie man! I never see a people that always so azozol to give somebody a mapwie. I was just trying to being humourous, but I suppose you have to get it, to get it.. All ypu have a loooooooooooot of problems to slove in that country there, So I will ascribe the deysola all you deysola to anxiety and FEAR!!! I think those bad karma in Dominica has something to do with the state of Dominica right now, Bad vibes bad, bad vibes polluting the Domnica air!
It seems like ur the only Shirley Allan there should be. Stupes. Get off DNO n go find something more constructive to do.
Shirley for a sec I thought it was really you . LOL !! I mean on the real !!
Shirley, please, Shirley is a common enough name and so is Allan. Relax you are safe, you are not that important you know!
That girl look like Zigili and Zigili cannot be just 45. Ah magway sa!!!!!!
@ Shirley Allan
If you feel someone is impersonating you, it is simple, use another name.
Shirl, there are quite a few persons in Dominica who carries the same name and surname… I thought of you when i read the name. (Your friend….Berts)
u canna ask no question u in prison ha jail no bail
yes wii Shirley. When I heard the name, I thought it was you eh, that is, until I saw the photo. lol lol
so wat if is de other shirley dont pretend like u innocent to.u forget u make ur bobol wen u were working n run?
Hmmmmn smh but how d/ca comin there ner. I pryin for our future generation wi.lord
I’m so sorry I did not want to laugh..eh!!?? but when I c mamzel n mr. I had 2 burst it wee..eh a lair sala??!!
..in allu old age? is tru innocent until proven guilty but dere had to have some link dats y allu name call eh..awa wee lmao
its their child that did that with her frecnh husband, and left her poor mother to b blamed, but they all in it together, let them all rot in jail
Why are you calling what church you attend in your business…please don’t my church’s name….stttpsssssssssssssss.
shame to pastor dave eyes
@ Anonymous
How many Anonymouses comment on this Website? Are you the only one? Pertaining to the name, do you know the saying, ‘Nearer to church, further from God?’ It is an old Dominican saying. Some people may be ‘pillars of the church’ as we say but this is all. Their lifestyle will tell much about them, if they are godly or not. This one is a typical example. Those who are genuinely practicing religious people, they will conduct themselves appropriately. They may know those who are criminals and people of questionable character but they will not keep company with them.
Holy Scripture tells us, “What has God got in common with the devil?” This is mortal and spiritual food for thought.
YUH HAVE A LIL BOY N YUH KIDNAPPING PPL CHILDREN??? WELL TINK OF YUH SON N SPILL D BEANS….TELL US WHERE D YOUNG MEN R…..TELL US ERTING……I WOULDA BEAT THEM KIDNAPPERS UNDER THEIR FEET WIT HOT BARBED WIRE
Your a damned fool !
America has the first 48. This is long past. Let the Christian among them talk. He knows that it is wrong to withhold information.
Well sah, Ziggily and Zorteyy. Man see what crap you go and put yourself in, in your old age. Doesn’t wisdom come with age nah?
Maybe now when the daughter hears that her parents are in jail, she will turn herself in. You guys may not want to rat on your daughter, but let us hope she feels the same and come in to try and clear all you name.
You guys are the parents; you were suppose to be the voice of reason in that whole fiasco there.
Boy, that is a sad situation all around.
You going Deliverance Baptiste Church? You putting shame on the church name… stupes. So Police just pick you up like that!!! Why they doe pick me up 2? Stupes. I vex wi.
What allu do with those people children… that is what you need to answer.
She now talking about what church she going and about chile? Dem boys wasn’t somebody chile? Oh… I see
child*
So you tink she kiah spell child. She shooda say pickney instead.
hahaha that case reminds me of the movie… ‘The Iron Monkey’… when the chief wanted to catch the iron monkey… he ordered the police to arrest anyone who looks, acts or move like a monkey lol… so you know those police officers went out and arrested all who they felt fit that description…. so if you sold ‘monkey oil’ you’d be arrested to lol…. when i heard ‘one of the victims going with the wife and one of the suspects is a french native’… i thought is some bellaz and bohfa pardna wii… them people dere that initiating that kinda seen lol…. ay ay.. man really desperate these days
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are u serious shirley? doh embarass yourself so na.
I actually thought is was you Shirley….lol. Anyway u safe in the good old US Of A so don’t sweat when you hear your name. But IF you come Dca u MAY get arrested and remanded for runing your mouth on …….shoy
. If u get my drift 
That’s why I am staying far, far, far away papa! I already know what my fate would be!
But Shirley you are the best!…every thrid dog in Dominican mother name is Shirly and Allan is a very common last name……I expect there to be twenty more Shirley Allans in Roseau alone!
stupes get arrested but not for that at all ha ha
I thought the same thing—Lol
best they had name you “damearse” if you thinking is you alone that can be named Shirley Allan…smh
What happen you trade mark on the name ‘Shirley Allan’ man? So the lady have same name with you so what? Sackway toneh man
All you waiting for me to say something for all you to prance on me wee papa. How did you guys carried on on DNO without me? WOW! Taking about who is ? WOW! WOW! Smart people!
CHRISTOPHIN..Go and find work to do.Saintdew fed up with you!
Shirley do you have a problem? Yes Zigilli has the same name with you and I know that long time ago and I think she is also your cousin because those Allan there have relatives in La Plaine.
I am so proud of our police force … i definitely going bring lunch for them tomorrow. Working hard, good job guys. let them criticizers talk now!
Ya, you proud of the poliuce force???? What so proud about that, that’s their job, to keep peace, law and order and find criminals. They ain’t doing us a favour. They so good, we need to be proud of them what stopping them arresting sayko, sicko for his horrendous crime. Attempted murder on the life of two senior citizens? arresting SICKO SECKO would lead to arresting big guns???? is that so?? what good for the goose, good for the gander. Go get the criminals for the December 25th fire bombing. I vex!! its time Dominicans see truth and righteousness and speak truth and righteousness as it is. I really vex!! Talk about that, the bad example set by our Leaders, that’s why those things happening now, there’s more to come
Put a little pepper in the food to keep their fire burning. The police are really stepping up in this much needed time. They deserve whatever it is that you prepare for them.
ZERO TOLERANCE FOR CRIME….
I hope a bigger prison is one of the pillar projects to be embarked by the Chinese. If it’s not, then PM please seek funding for that one, cuz I forsee the need for it!
Bigger Prison? Funded by the Chinese??? The Statehouse already is a big Prison. You ain’t see the size and the millions beng spent. You doh think this is an Intelligence Building? so ntht speaks for itself, when the building finish, our lives will be like prisoners, trust me, come it coming, so much for the Chinese projects, remember I said dat
Stockfarm overflowing!!
Amazing, we actually have more people in prison than in hospital Guess that is healthy?
DA, whats going on, are these damn peolpe watching to many fictional TV shows??
“Lord”help them remember the frenchman’s name,and hope they can pronounce it.
That good for them!! So long they had to arrest mamzelle!!!!!!!!
when un meet somebody in jail & u married dem, thats a normal behavior
these so called old people know exactly what happened. they helped in kidnapping/killing two young boys. they know, they know, they know. keep them in prison. do on to others as you would like them to do on to you. plain and simple, sakway murders.good always triumph over evil.
Get them one by one! Young and old alike! Its time we bring peace to our Dominica!
Good! Let them start talking on each other. Somebody will sell out, trust me.
JAIL NO BAIL!!
What do u mean by that ? the police knows what they are doing ,there must be a reason why they got picked up so give the cops a break.
so why don t the cops arrange for the extradition of seeko seco in order to complete the fire bombing case? the police cannot take up real challenges man?
But wat is really goin on in dis case nuh?? I’m lost!!
OMG i’m soo sorry tht all these things hv to be happenin in our sweet lil country, but we need to teach our children to see people stuff and live it alone… thts just so sad tht our young men hv to do all these crazy stuff..LORD HELP THEM…..
still doesz not give any one the rights to kill them, so don t act as if you got saints in your family,
All of Yam Piece kidnap seems to be a suspect
Now that’s what I’m talking about DNO. ” The whereabouts of he missing persons are still unknown.”
Good reporting.
saracstic but u cnt blame DNO for tht..
The whereabout of the missing men remain unknown. Didn’t you read it before today. DNO said that before.
There where about is not unknown ….it is undisclosed, because the people who took them know where they are. make them find them
If you do not know what I am referring to stay out of this….that’s why crap end up being written on this site in the first place. If you have no idea what a statement is being sourced from stay out of it…
ok tht all nice and dandy but i want to knw wat happen to the 2 MEN! police say something. it looking lik allu doing work though, i thought that case wouldnt go nowhere- good job
But what I seeing there, nah! Father God, help your people, please.
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And if they dont do anything , people like you complain !!! GEEZ !
shut your mouth police not just arresting anybody. you just saying anything !!!!! shut up
it looking like you know the whereabouts of the missing boys. foolish get of DNO, go search for them.
I WILL SPEAK SO YUH CAN UNDERSTAND……
What those old people have with that jail them for the rest of their life
these old people were not involved they are parens of the offenders, read first people read. they did not do anything
WELL ERBODY WANT MONEY…..I PERSONALLY WOULD KIDNAP HIS LIL BOY JUS FOR SPITE
but but but, its seems too me not only the young people that are stupid and are that desperate.
yes jah…
Good job DPF! You must be commended on the work that you are doing. Praying for God’s guidance and protection over you and our beautiful country of Dominica.
but what is this at all nuh!! SQUEEZE THESE KIND PEOPLE AND LET THEM TALK MAN!! ALL U TAKING PEOPLE CHILDREN LIKE IS ALL YOU OWN!! AND JUST LOOK AT THEIR STATE WII!!! stupes!
kind of people i meant!
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