Carnival is officially over but it appears a controversy over the installation of CCTV in Roseau during the two days of street jump up is just beginning.
The cameras were installed by Platinum Security in collaboration with the police force as a means of enhancing security.
But it did not go down well with talk show host, Angelo Allen, who described the entire matter as “quite an invasion of the rights of the people.”
According to Allen, Dominicans were not consulted before the cameras were installed.
“It is important to include we the people … explain to us what the heck you are doing, Mr. government … you are a servant of the public for crying out loud,” he said on Q95 on Friday morning. “If people wish to have a photo of themselves they could go to a photographic booth like DEPEX, and take a photograph of themselves if they want to do that.”
He went on to say photographs should not be taken forcibly by the government who do not have any legislative power to determine what exactly is done with the images.
In response police PRO, Inspector John Carbon, told DNO on Friday that the public was fully aware of the installation of the cameras.
“First of all there was a program on the radio and they were talking about cameras would be installed in the streets on the carnival route. I heard it myself,” he said.
He said, further, the Electronics Evidence Act, passed in 2010, allows video footage to be used in court if a crime is committed.
“Prior to this Act being enacted, you could not use electronic evidence in court but now it can be used,” he stated.
When questioned as to whether public opinion was necessary on the matter, Carbon said “this is not a matter of opinion … it is law, so it can be done.”
“It was done the right way, there is nothing illegal about it,” he said.
He described the CCTV as a monitoring tool and assured the public that there was a specialized team set up specifically to man the control room, where all the video footage was sent.
Meanwhile, owner of Platinum Security, Kihmo Astaphan is appalled by Allen’s statement, describing them as unfortunate.
“I think it is unfortunate that we have persons within our citizenry who thinks so negatively,” he told DNO. “He (Allen) is misleading the public in so many ways. One, he said that there is no legislation. The Electonics Evidence Act of 2010 gives the right for any criminal act caught on surveillance cameras, once it is within the right framework in the original format, it can be admissible in court.”
Astaphan further argued that Carnival is a public activity and “the public road is governed by the government, the government has the authority to man and secure the public roads in whatever way necessary.”
He stated that whatever is done in public cannot be deemed as private.
“Carnival is a public activity,” he stated. “I think we are arguing the wrong point …the point should be whether or not the cameras have assisted the public.”
that is why prison will never miss people, Angelo and people who think like him mislead the young generations, Society needs teachers not angels
Hello and good morning my people. This topic seems to have touch a nerve of our people. Mr Carbon said that the electronic Evidence act allow the photos/images to be used in Court if a crime was committed but what does it say about the storage of the images. Mr Astaphan is a private citizen so does he take his equipment with the database of the stored images to his home. The Government should have put our a request for bids to install the cameras and issue a contract which should spell out how the images are safeguarded. There is nothing wrong with having security cameras and it’s the Police Department responsibility to engage our elected officials to establish proper protocols governing the recording/storage of the images. We need to know the details of the Electronic Evidence Act. One don’t have a right to privacy if you are in public rather one has a right to feel safe and secure while in public therefore it’s the Police Department that must make our citizens safe. I support the use of the cameras but I don’t support Mr Astaphan involvement in this. There are many constitutional issues that must be address because we don’t know if the images where Also transmitted to another location where only Mr Astaphan has access to the images.
alu want a more dunce statement than that??
Marn Wonder if Jesus Christ, Marcus Garvey, Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Toussaint L’Ouverture, Simon Bolivar and all them other Freedom Fighters of the past, living in this times, based on what they had to go through in their various struggles would accept this CCTV monitoring concept!!!
I cannot remember whene last a story got Soo much attention. We are a,l concerned have have right, but we are arguing the wrong point. Sat n Marpin have in their archives countless years of carnival, more intimate photoage as their is an actual operator following you along the route. These images were n still are re broadcasted. We were not concerned. The introduction of cameras were done with zero cost to the people of Dominica but brought about millions n trillions of peace….meaning can any amount of money bring back a life ? NO! So it was worth it. Khimo did a great service along with the other partners. We should congratulate this effort instead of shooting it down. If it was Angello partner that installed the cameras boy Angello would have had a party. He is too bias n ppl saw right though him. Good Job ppl. Carnival was a success no one died! Ppl felt safe n it was a success. U know there are so many good ppl in a Dominica but ppl like Angelo sometimes make them regret every good deed they do buck of his ridiculous n outrageous statements. Man you done wrech yourself so it’s too late for you. Ppl have a right to their opinion but it’s how you bring your point across. Each camera I saw had a sigh. Bonjay a pic is posted with a sigh and ppl are still asking if there were signs. We are sometimes too wicked. Next year I’m investing n giving Khimo my money to put more. Wicked ppl. Allu rather see Roseau streets covered in blood. Stupes.
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I hope this might help the situation. Please watch
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I disagree with Emma Carr.
Angelo has a right to his opinion. He is a Talk Show Host after all. However, it’s high time that these cameras gained a foothold in Roseau. Carnival has long been a time to settle old scores and effect revenge for wrong doing.
It’s very difficult to tell a court of law that it’s not you, when you’re caught on camera.
The next step is to equip the police force with cameras that are mounted on vehicles so that they can do a much better job monitoring large events such as concerts and shows.
It’s time to employ 21st century technology as a viable crime fighting tool.
Angelo as with everyone else you have a right to object. We have a right to object to your argument which serves no useful purpose for the protection and safety of nationals and also visitors. Yours is much ado about nothing, in that it does not serve the majority of Dominicans.
You heard about the Malaysian airplane which went down somewhere with 239 people on board. Sadly, the airplane with all these people is yet to be found. My heart, sympathy and prayers go out to the victims and their grieving families.
It is said that there were two people on board with two stolen passports. It is also said that they could have been detected if proper security was conducted.
There is speculation that it could be terrorists’ actions. Therefore, in this era, you and your arguments have no clout.
Dominica and nationals have suffered too much from increased crimes. All D/cans should consent to consistent camera/video surveillance all over Roseau and elsewhere in D/ca specifically where crimes are prevalent. This is the heart of the matter.
Matt has a saying better people think of you as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Man this is just you, your damn fool!!!
He certainly is.
He is really a damn fool i second your opinion what a joke he is trouble trouble
Angelo Allen don’t you realize 99% of the comments here are against you?Who are you to talk for the Dominican public?
@ FAST N FURIOUS Yes because many of those commenting are as dumb and shalliowminded like you. Have you ever made a sensible comment on here? The answer is no.
They gave it to him prim and proper. He deserves it. He is not concerned about the protection of nationals especially at such a time, carnival, when some people could have taken advantage of it and harmed others.
Angelo like i said we need to love our country and please let’s fight for it .the time has come to stop taking we have done to much or it.
This is the third stage of government full control the third eye looking at you. The time has come to stop talking sir.
No corruption for the use of the cameras. Please use it for criminal activity. Not political “propaganda.” Please quote the law, Astaphan. Tell them Angelo. Team Angelo.
Angelo sorry but the time has come to stop talking, we need to be serious about Dominica
Ive been to London, there is about 40000 CCTV there, all over town.. And they actually BUST a LOT of criminals. The important thing is to have a government/police force that treat the films with respect and store them well.
Reading the many comments about Mr Allen’s article confirms my belief of native D/cans – an inability to move from ignorance to integral knowledge.
My fellow D/cans, please stop the mentality of predominantly thinking “LOCALLY”, as it’s a big wide world out there and the ‘secret to success’ is to place your efforts and emphasis on the “GLOBAL” market place. This state or fact of being ignorant – lacking knowledge, education or awareness of CCTV Camera Surveillance codes of practice, relating to operational procedures is leaving us with a backward mentality.
Mr Allen is simply provoking discussions on a possible breach of Human Rights and Civil Liberties in D/ca on the basis of methods / techniques that have consistently shown results superior to those achieved with other means used as a benchmark.
Let’s open our minds to beyond ‘local’ and ‘regional’ happenings, as these makes little – if at all no impact, on the ‘Global’ stage.
Many of the comments I have read here is just pure bias hatred and resentment. Its seems like Angelo, has been walking on egg shells and when he accidentally smashes one, the hiding crowd comes from the bushes and say, we have caught you now. It’s about time for your crucifixion. if the masses try to read between the lines ,at the point the brother is trying to make, there would not have been that fast condemnation. He is not totally against the CCTV installation. What he is saying is that the proper steps and the meeting of the citizens for dialogue should have take place months ahead. If the citizens are not involved , that means the government do not respect its citizens rights. You can just say communism is not far away from the country of Dominica. All the talk about, that Angelo being an ex cop and all the negatives about him was not call for. You all could not wait to get that off you all chest. I hope you all have exhale now. Hope you haters do not have a pass.
I could not have said it better, Anon. They say, ‘where ignorance is bliss it is folly to be wise’.
You say ‘communism’, I say ‘dictatorship’.is not too far away from Dominica.
Leave Angelo alone. Right to speak. Not a dictatorship it is a democracy. Open discourse, end of story. I don’t know him, but I’ve heard him; he is a thinker, a mover and a shaker. He is not preaching violence, just opening your eyes to see .what’s going on.
Slow day in D.A I see, debating about CCTV. Really??…
I guess you argue about that at all airports, seaports, train stations, malls, restaurants, stores…etc
whenever your in another country. Wow
You’ve missed the point, haven’t you?
Hey DNO…I am not a reporter but you had a story on the installation of CCTV and NOTHING was mentioned in this report. You remember “CCTV to be installed on Roseau carnival route” Is it “sending the fool a little further…..”
Mr Angelo I must say I do not live in DA but I read of the CCTV being installed by this guy, the cost ($60 + thousand) and the police will monitor….Hey Trinidad used a similar system to monitor/secure their people during carnival 2k14. (read Trinidad Express on ASH Wed.) I understand you live oversea …Do you know in some cities, it is a camera system that monitor drivers at places like stop lights etc.. and you can be ticketed .. HEY man GET on Board Please
Angelo is NOT against CCTV. Did you get that?
What is he against? Telling the people….Did you see when DNO had a story to inform the public. The provider, cost and police monitoring were areas mentioned and even business opposition to he installation on their property……Read man…
I suggest they attach a camera on Groovy Bat’s back permanently. His every move should be monitored. What else will he come up with? Do people seriously listen to Angelo???
You all remember the Boston bombing two years ago if it wasn’t for those CCT camera they wouldn’t have caught these guys good job Skerrit keep them on who don’t like it that’s too bad it will keep the crime rate down we need some in Portsmouth
istll in all towns an city.look y
theypick up guy and murder him the car was caught by police on lucia thnk god for cctv
we got this all over st.lucia everyday.all where we pass a cam on an electrical pole an everybody happy
Well, if they can line the streets with security camera’s with no legislation on their usage, why stop there?
Forget about search warrants. If you have nothing to hide you won’t have a problem with police searching your houses every now and again randomly. Better still, let them outsource it to a contracted company that can higher all them young fellers lining the streets. A great initiative to keep our communities safe!
Let it be law for everyone to have a GPS tracker ($69.00 US on Amazon.com) registered with the local police and be asked to present it together with your national ID on demand. Failure to do so should result in a fine and/or prison time. We need to secure our citizens by knowing WHO they are and WHERE they are 24/7!
How about the police taking fingerprints of everybody in the country and putting it in a database just in case somebody commits a crime so we’ll know who has been around. Brilliant security measure! They might get mixed up like our passport numbers but I’m sure, for the sake of security, the government is bound to iron it out the little bugs!
Let’s just start giving up all our freedom for the sake of the ‘security’ the state is trying to provide!
Them men run out off things to say they even talking about people’s safety. when they are in the bigger country their picture doesn’t come out. wonder why they came back home but here it is camera on them.
They do not care about their pictures taken and they do not see them. They care about protection and safety. This is the reason for the CCTV installation. It was extremely effective which prohibited many and major bad incidents.
If there was no CCTV Cameras Installed and there was a lot of crimes Committed during this carnival celebration He would have come on the air waves and blast the Government. Just never know how to please mankind.I live in foreign and am always on D N O and at some point i read about the police will be installing CCTV Cameras so i don’t get Mr Allen point of bashing on the police for not informing the public. Tortola is in the process of CCTV Installation too so whats the big deal. Mr Allen you need to go and take a bath in the river mouth to reed of this negative energy you releasing. And some of you have the nerves to agree with him and his negative talk you need to go take a bath also.Thank god we had a crime free carnival in such a long time.
Well if that’s the case juss put them CCTV cameras everywhere nuh all over the place first place to put them is by Screw’s right in them hot tubs where people does bathe isn’t Screw’s a Public Place nuh,,,
Juss because them albinos all over the place installing devices to monitor Live-Stock doesn’t mean the inhabitants on Dominica have to be monitored that same way yeh,,,
Allyou don’t see what happening all over the Globe with the Elites and their total Domination, and Agenda of Control???
They start small and before you know it the have total control,,,
Learn by His-tory nuh,,, Remember when them pardners came in the guise of Religion, then they told our forefathers that they could give up land and there would be a place made for them in heaven, before people blinked their eyes them pardners owned all the prime land,,,
Them Pardners today that gave the Bible and hold all the Land is one of, if not the Biggest Banking institutions on this Planet, if allyou don’t know what Marn talking about do allyou research nuh,,,
The installation of this CCTV device is just another mechanism in the Domination agenda to seamlessly implement devices for the Monitoring of Live-Stock in the guise of national-Security,,,
Another issue people fail to realize is the true concept of Democracy, if Dominica was a true Democracy the officials would not be so arrogant to make statement like what John Carbon and that AsStaphans Fella is Bablaaahing,,,
Just like there is a petition for changing Creole Festival Dates So should there be petition for removal of these CCTV devices,,,
Matter of fact these CCTV should be removed because liberties trump national-security!!!
The radicals are the ones who did not appreciate them.
Angelo needs to be taken off the airimmediately. He is a raging lunatic and he is hurting the UWP with his uneducated babbling. He should go to the hills and make himself productive there.
Then I assume that all businesses and bodies who use security cameras in public locations, example: Banks – Public ATM services, Airports and Seaports Security Cameras just to name a few, needs to put out some form of public documentation for all of Dominica to know that it is for their personal safety because it seems they don’t have common sense. Simple answers to simple questions.
–What is the information used for? – Security purposes.
–When will it be discarded? – When it is no longer for security investigations
–How and where will it be discarded? – In the most secure way possible. (I assume that if all of Dominica knows such information, then we have a fault in security system!)
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Common Sense. Only fools lack such a valuable trait.
Since when Dominica have privacy joke you all making man something happen in Portsmouth in seconds Scotts Head have it covered, Angelo get work to do they are the ones who were complaining about the violence in the country and the Government lack of control with the young people
I think we are bashing the messenger rather than the message. Angelo, brought across some very valid points but as a people we normally just run with what people say instead of rationalizing things. Angelo was being Angelo, objective views ruined by excessive talk and rants. But there is always some elements of truth to what he says.
P.S. His views are not representative of the UWP. Let’s face it similar nonsensical views are expressed on the Animal show as well. there is a saying which goes, “a people who stand for nothing will fall for anything.’ some of us are evidence of that in Dominica
We The Authorities are delighted that Mr. Allen has inadvertently displayed his allegiance to the Police Force by introducing this debate on CCTV in Dominica.
As a result of the plethora of comments in favour of the cameras, we are in the process of acquiring a few drones to monitor our beaches and other secluded areas.
who cares what angelo allen thinks? its not important! go find some constructive work to do instead of misleading the people.
If was a monitoring tool, Why the hell were people allowed to pay for live streaming? You were making money on my image without my consent…That cannot be legal Mr. inspector.
This talk show host has put his feet in his mouth. In view of increased crimes CCC are necessary. This year carnival was a success in that no major crimes. This should be attributed to the CCC on carnival routes.
Who said they will be used for other reasons than what they are intended for? No need to panic. I doubt this very much.
The CCC should be retained. If crimes decreased in D/ca many more of us will visit and more frequently. So will the tourists.
Speak Angelo, speak. Good to get everyone thinking and talking. I love the public discourse. I just love Angelo’s boldness. Like “the voice of one crying in the wilderness, prepare ye the way of the Lord”. However, if the cameras are necessary, let’s vote on it.
Dominica my home country, come on people cameras are all over the world, now wake up people, we are leading the Caribbean, thanks to the police , and astaphan. please leave them alone , what if some body in your family get hurt and the camera cougth who did it ? what would you say ?. I am in California and the cameras are all over the place if you are not doing wrong , so dont worry. thank you mr Carbon.
No law abiding citizen should be scared of security cameras. The cameras can remain there permanently and that would not bother me. If a camera is secretly installed in my home, that’s a violation of my privacy. Let the cameras roll on the streets of Roseau and anywhere that is deemed unsafe!!!!!
Allen does not want people to see his true colors on the cameras that’s why he’s against it.
http://www.cicad.oas.org/fortalecimiento_institucional/legislations/PDF/DM/electronic_evidence_act.pdf
If he cared for the welfare of Dominicans he should keep his mouth zipped. He just like an empty barrel making useless noise.
The views of Angelo does not represent tht of the united workers party…
This is what you want people to think. Have you been listening to him on the radio Q95.
Yes he representing the UWP because he is one of their propaganda messangers
OK. We know that. He is not running for office. Just a free citizen, doing his job. But he really should run. He has what it takes..I’m just not for “rasta” but for Jesus. God can change anyone…
So when he says something good it represents but when he doesn’t you all disown him? This really that UWP supporters has no loyalty.
You ARE SO RIGHT.
Well this is who he is and who he represents.
Oh my people, wake up and smell the coffee, are we still that backward in our mind? do you all people travel? Almost every city in the world has security cameras installed. When you have a former law enforcement officer against security cameras and we dominicans are embracing him as a positive example this is a very bad sign of where we the people are as a country.
The Point that was made is that there is no Proper legislative framework in place to govern that type of surveilance ,You hear the businessman saying that the road is public and the Government can put cameras there .The real question is “Where is the protection in the law for the protection of the Citizens in case there is abuse of these images” Suppose a Government camera sees inside Your bedroom and the captured images are posted on the internet do You as a private Citizen have protection under the law as it is? What is Your recourse if somehow Your image is misused by the Authority?Mr. Astaphan is pushing His product as a businessman and is not necessarily concerned with the Citizenry as much as He would be about making a profit.It is up to We the People to make sure there is a proper framework for our protection.Is there anyone who can assure me that such a framework is in place?Should we wait till a real case of abuse arises to find out there we have no legal protection?
Telemaque,…just what you explained there is what I understand Angelo is raising,. They are all over the world in the UK, USA etc.
1. Are you aware of the laws that sanction them to be operational and how they should not be abused and misused.
2.Are you aware of the level of debate that has gone in the UK, in parliament, radio talk shows etc before they system was installed.
3.Are you aware of the restrictions placed on these CCTV.
4.Are you aware of the life of these public recordings and how they should be disposed of?
5.Are you aware recently the bugging going in UK AND PEOPLE ARE NOW BEFORE THE COURTS BECAUSE THESE SAME SYSTEMS WERE ABUSED BY JOURNALIST into the private and personal life of the citizenry, who were targeted.
6.Are you aware where Mr Snowdon is now and why he fled USA and is now on the run and hiding in Russia? If it was ok, why is he running.
7. Are you aware that Mr. Snowdon stole these many recorded voices, taped by the government (Big Daddy) and now he made them pubic, why…?
8. It is either the government whom the people trusted, abused their power and the security system to protect these citizens were NOT strong enough.
9. Are you aware whether we have that level of security protection, and system in place that someone recorded jumping up with a man or woman would not be a matter for mepuis and discussion by those holders of the recordings.
10 Are you aware of the “security” and “protocol” in place to protect these recording?
These are the questions Angelo is asking and never once I heard Angelo said he is NOT in favour of surveillance cameras, but rather asking for protocol, due diligence, control, assurance of privacy of all of us, YES all of us. Etc.
Now having read this I appeal to all those who appeared to be so critical of Angelo to return to your original script and abuse on Angelo and try writing something again to educate me and the public of security and protection.
“6.Are you aware where Mr Snowdon is now and why he fled USA and is now on the run and hiding in Russia? If it was ok, why is he running.”
Here you are into a different area entirely; their is a difference in collecting information on people by monitoring their phone calls, installing a camera in a public place. I was subjected to a situation like that, all due to a friend of mine that was under investigation; the friend is now in jail, but everyone of his friends including me; our telephone was bugged, so I understand your hypothesis on the matter.
Do not confuse the real issue of collecting information in order to secure the world and capture terrorist before they strike, and simply bugging ordinary people’s phone just for the hell of it, Snowdon worked in a place of high security, he failed his country, by betraying the trust bestowed on him; that is an offence similar to treason, and if I had my way he would be in jail for the rest of his life.
The reason he fled to Russia is because of the betrayal of his country the United States. In his employment Camera’s were not involved, it was basically the monitoring and recording of phone calls, and computers collecting data, it had nothing to do with local events, and ordinary citizens; that is why he is out there with information on his computer disseminating to whoever wants it,
Even at that I do not have a problem with the listening and monitoring of phone calls, because had that method not executed, bin Laden would never be caught and eliminated, hence you may not be able to board an aircraft to any place without the fear that he instructed one of his subordinates to blow the aircraft you are traveling on out of the sky.
However, that is different to something taking place in public domain., we are talking about two horses of different color at the moment.
Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
Dude this was just to protect people and prevent violence and it was successful 100%. So bite me.
No.7 – ‘public.’ It is easy to make such an error.
Finally, another Dominican who understands what Angelo is trying to bring across to us. Thank you brother for enlightening others. But I suspect you will be bashed to because a lack of understanding only brings a great level of ignorance. I do hope people understand what you are saying before they go bashing Angelo.
@views expressed BRILLIANT!
I am certain I heard one of the high ranked officers mention that they were gong to install cameras like last year all around the city. For someone who’s been a police officer and lived overseas, I find this man to be very cantankerous. Speak for yourself Angelo, don’t speak for me. Aware or not, the cameras were placed to serve a good purpose.
Some of you Guys miss the point Allen is making big time. Those of you who are talking about big cities like London etc….. you fail to remember that on the side walks, train stations, and other PUBLIC locations, it is clearly published and visible on posters that one is being monitored via CCTV.
If they don’t inform the public then it is considered an invasion of privacy. That is the point. The people has to know that they are being watched. And the laws has to be in place to make that legal.
That’s it.
Crimes have increased throughout the world. The same applies in Canada. CCC do not bother me at all. I do not object to their installation. As I always say, I have nothing to hide. I am happy to know they are installed for my protection, the protection of other residents and to quickly apprehend criminals. Who in their sane mind would not appreciate those cameras and not want them?
The public was informed that there would be cameras. Most Dominicans heard it being addressed and welcomed the idea. That should now become a permanent fixture throughout.
Shouldn’t we all be interested in making sure that crime is at a minimum in our country? that is a great initiative and we should commend all those responsible for making us feel safer.
But my PM, it was not during carnival GON Emanuel’s house was fire bombed, was it? So I guess because of the twist our country has taken in the last 14 years with crime all over the place, we need to have cameras all over the place be it Carnival day, Christmas morning, regular work days and weekends.
The Point that was made is that there is no Proper legislative framework in place to govern that type of surveilance ,You hear the businessman saying that the road is public and the Government can put cameras there .The real question is “Where is the protection in the law for the protection of the Citizens in case there is abuse of these images” Suppose a Government camera sees inside Your bedroom and the captured images are posted on the internet do You as a private Citizen have protection under the law as it is? What is Your recourse if somehow Your image is misused by the Authority?Mr. Astaphan is pushing His product as a businessman and is not necessarily concerned with the Citizenry as much as He would be about making a profit.It is up to We the People to make sure there is a proper framework for our protection.Is there anyone who can assure me that such a framework is in place?Should we wait till a real case of abuse arises to find out there we have no legal protection?
For a lawyer, should he not have had a private CCC, i.e., a security system installed without informing people about it? If he had one, the perpetrator(s) would have been observed and apprehended. Everyone especially high profile people should have one installed in their home, on their property.
If the police does not know who committed this crime how could they arrest who did it? Speculations and assumptions are not enough. Was there not someone who was a suspect? He had returned from the US. What happened to him?
Due to the level that crime has reached in Dominica… you must give a little to get allot. Give up some privacy in order to enable the police the means to gather effective irrefutable evidence if a crime is committed.
Angelo! make sure your brain is engaged before you blow your top. you are mixing apples with oranges, for that I forgive you, we respect your opinion this is a democratic country, but I think you are getting over your self and need to do research before you open your trap. In my opinion there should have been CCTV in every corner of Dominica. Where I live in North America there are those who say the same thing you`re saying, and the only result is more, and more cameras are being installed. Angelo ready or not this is the wave get ready to installed cameras on the door step of your studio. Tunnel vision is crippling you and those like you. The question of security cannot be taken for granted.smh.
Better to be safe than sorry. If something had happened to especially him or his family at carnival time while they were enjoying themselves, he would sing a different tune.
Well I must say it’s a tangle Web to weave cause where I live in Texas cameras were installed in the city about 3 years ago and the people protested and they were removed so it’s Angelo is right in some way it’s the call of the people why is it that our country continue to take the power from its people that’s the exact point Angelo is making for those of u playing smart
Stop acting like u smart and allow room for discussion in any situation that involves the people check ure self einstein
I think u the one in need of mind engaging
Matt please come and take over ur talk show becuause angelo allen is distroying your image on ur programn. He sound too uneducated to run ur show.how can a camera invade someone privacy in a public space ?? After rall man any idiot can know dat this cabt happen but angelo allen is on the radio screaming .I mean gosh he sounding so stupid dis .It was an embarsment.my god talk to this man matt.
My Friend it is possible that some public cameras can pan that is to say moved from left to right up and down from a remote controlled site!This means that they can zoom in on specific points such as a window with an open curtain which may be the bedroom of You and Your wife!Suppose this footage finds itself posted on the internet is there a legal framework to protect You and compensate You if God forbid this would occur?
when u don’t understand something, 1st do your research do not assume u know everything. And for your information in public space u are indeed entitle to a certain degree of privacy. remember your image and likeness blong to you irrespective of where u are.
Damn Angelo just exposed him self like the women on Jouvert morning.
That’s gonna cost you and your party some points ma’ dude.
Mr Allen why don’t you find something constructive to do? rather than telling the police how to do their job. If you see something is wrong with the installation of the CCTV cameras then u better check yourself cause so far everyone is happy to have had a crime free carnival. Empty barrels makes the most noise.
Mr Allen why don’t you find something consructive to do rather than telling the police how to do their jobs.If you see something is wrong by installing those cctv cameras then you better check yourself cause so far every one is happy to have had a crime free carnival. Empty barrel makes the most noise.
well well so much debate over something that’s so good.Tell Mr Allen go walk the streets of London, England and will see cameras .That’s one reason I feel so safe when I’m visitng. just imagine the visitors coming to Dominica who are used to having them how safe they would feel.I think MrAllen just want to be the devils advocate in creating controversy .but deep down he knows it’s a good idea.
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CCTV during carnival was a great business move and helped curb the violence that may (or may not) have taken place.
Outside of that festive session, I believe CCTV needs to be first and primarily installed in ALL charge offices and interrogation rooms in every POLICE STATION in the country! And put a 52′ widescreen monitor in the commissioners office so he can see exactly what his cops are getting up to by the way they treat the same people they have sworn to protect and serve!
Instead of infringing on the people’s rights, start by PROTECTING IT!
That’s a “MONK” but thank you Sir. You might not leave to blame the police when things go wrong. But at least where the security of a nation is at stake we have to pull all the strings to arrest the situation. Freedom is not free unless the citizens of any country stop living in fear. By any means necessary let the cameras Roll. Who have cocoa in sun look for the cameras,cause big brother is watching you. Can I have installed at my door step?
You guys won’t learn…when police start blackmailing peeps with collected data, then you all will realize how deadly this is for your own good!
The Importance Of Installing Cctv Security Systems In Your Area
A CCTV security system has several components in it in order to make it complete. There are cables to connect all the components together, a digital video camera to record motion pictures, a display monitor, other accessories and CCTV camera that will take still pictures.
There are two types of CCTV security systems. There are wired ones and wireless ones. The wired systems have several advantages. They cannot be hacked by an external person. They can only be hacked when someone gets access to the cables but this is unlikely as the guard can monitor several monitors to keep off hackers. A wireless CCTV security
system is very easy to install. This is because you do not need to study the wiring. It is also neat as you will not have cables running all through the place. However, wireless security systems can be easily hacked into by an external receiver. This makes it easy to be attacked.
The primary use of CCTV systems is the surveillance of commercial and domestic property. The use of CCTV systems has been increased and nowadays they are used to record sports activities, bird watching, monitoring industrial production and monitoring medical procedures.
Before the invention of CCTV security systems, people were using security alarms. These alarms have been an essential part of many homes and offices. However, people are now using the CCTV systems as they are better than the security alarms.
With CCTV systems, you will be able to monitor all the activities in the area that is under surveillance. This is possible as there are digital cameras that clearly capture the activities. You can therefore monitor your premises from the gate to where you are by looking at a monitor installed in one of the rooms. The systems therefore deter criminals away, making them look for easier targets. This system makes the investigation process accurate. This is facilitated by the fact that there are cameras which take images. When investigations begin, the image recorded by the security system can be used to find the suspect. Since all the actions are recorded, there is strong evidence and justice can be done easily. The cameras will always work making them efficient and reliable. This is unlike having human watchmen who can sometimes take sick days.
CCTV security systems protect employees. This mainly applies to employees who work in customer service. These people are bound to interact with all manner of clients. Some might be calm and understanding while others might be violent. When violent customers realize that they are being monitored by CCTV cameras, they will refrain from attacking these employees.
CCTV security systems at the same time have a disadvantage. The guard must be licensed especially if the area under surveillance is public. Some people are against CCTV surveillance as they think that it robs them of their privacy. Employees who are constantly under CCTV surveillance complain that having their daily behavior monitored makes them really uncomfortable. The CCTV security systems do not always work. If the cameras are installed improperly, they cannot monitor high traffic areas. Criminals can use the opportunity to commit crime at those points as they will not be on tape. CCTV is also not able to display all the areas in the area under surveillance, even if the cameras are positioned correctly. People who are aware of this can take advantage of it. Criminals who know the positioning of the camera can find their way around them and cover the cameras or put chewing gum on the lenses.
Sometime ago I heard on the news that a U.S. woman went on a holiday. She had a CCTV or security alarm system in her home. While she was away she happened to check her home with some sort of telephone gadget she had and observed a man robbing her home. Of course, she was shocked. She telephoned her neighbor and the neighbor telephoned the police. The man was eventually caught.
Consider how effective these security of whatever nature are. I endorse them one hundred percent on the streets. They are protection for all nationals and law-abiding ones at that. The time has come to install them in Dominica especially Roseau.
You are a dam fool if you call a limitation a disadvantage. I am waiting for the disadvantage
boy look kicks!!! i enjoying this to the max
take that Mr. Allen always believing that you are Mr. Know it all!
Stop being an elk u he is right in some sense
Thanks to mr astaphan and the police force, this kind of cameras are used all over the world now, the marathon bombers in the states was cougth on camera, every major city in america has cameras so D.A is on the cutting edge thanks kimo, and thanks mr carbon.
Kimo Astaphan should be given an award for good citizenship. It shows that Dominicans can and are prepared to contribute to the development of their country . KODOS to you sir
It shows that people are paying attention to government policies and are prepared to invest in the private sector. The man is a super hero.
I endorse that. I hope, in time he will receive one.
Give me my protection and safety any day also in the form of CCTV.
Anything to blame the government huh?
Is this man have nothing to say? I mean many businesses have cameras outside their building (especially the banks) for multiple reasons. Are you saying that they are invading persons’ privacy as well? Then if so, maybe you should blast these private companies first.
With the wickedness of some people and increased crimes, these cameras should be considered a way of life. No one should object to them.
They must leave dem up and add more to many things happening in town n nobody has a clue now they can find all the thieves dat break into people’s vehicles like mine!!! And all other shit dat goes down in town… I say put more camera’s…. angelo needs to retire!
Angelo, go find a job.
Love waking up to Angelo in the morning but I do not object to CCTV. I heard the police explain it before carnival on Q95. I’m sure Angelo concerns are sincere but personally I have no problem with it. Can not see why things you do in public should be secret
The safest people in the country are in the prison. They are being protected, fed and clothed. And they have no rights. My point is that the one providing the safety is gaining control over us. To the degree that someone else provides us with a necessary good is the degree to which they gain control. Some general agreement on safety issues is necessary in a civilized society, for example we agree to drive on the left side of the road and we give the police the ability to enforce that for the common good. We actually give up the right to drive on the right side of the road in favor of public safety.
The issue is how far do we go? How many rights are we willing to give up? How much power are we willing to give to the public servants? If we insist on complete safety to be provided by the government we might be completely safe but also completely free of rights and freedoms.
Video surveillance has the potential to give enormous power to the government. They can know where you are at any time, who your friends are, where you hang out, how fast you drive, where you shop etc. That’s the kind of information that totalitarian governments use to control their people. Are we willing to cede that kind of power to our Caribbean governments? How we answer that as a people will determine the kind of society we develop. Remember, people who are willing to give up essential liberty in order to receive temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
It would be wise to give it up for CCTV installation for the criminals have no concern for your protection and safety. If you have nothing to hide you should have nothing to worry about. You should feel safe and secure walking the streets of especially Roseau and not being concerned about your wallet, chain, watch, handbag or other properties being stolen and at gun or cutlass point.
I reside in a country that some people were for and others against camera installation and surveillance. The majority won. Today, everyone goes about their business without a thought of it even though the cameras may be on them, including the stores and banks.
Business owners must protect their property. In so doing they are also protecting their employees. The government must also protect its nationals.
This topic has raised quite alot of hits. Good for DNO BAD for Angello – what that Rhyming man. Anyway Angello has proven once again to be a public nuisance and just to think the ownership of Q95 allowed him to talk such rubbish when one day before they invited Platinum on their program. What is there to fight – Zero incidents, Zero Ambulances Less work for Nurses and Doctors and everyone happy. Is that what we want or don’t want cause I’m confused! is that what Allen wants choas so he can pound on the Police and Gov’t. This is not a political discussion its a discussion about Allen countless Wreckless statements without a law suit. From my understanding these cameras were a trial run FREE OF CHARGE! It worked and was succesful with the help of the boots on the ground! People behaved – Thank you KIHMO thank you his Team, thank you the POlICE and thank you the business and private homes that allowed it to happen. Angello – you on the other hand, with Blessings and Archie should be stripped of your passport and sent to a God Forsaken Country with No FOOD and Water – lol. Boy the outside world must be wondering if we are sick. Angello do us a favour and go fishing and never return. YOur just a joke and you are affecting everyone you come into contact with.
The safest people in the country are in the prison. They are being protected, fed and clothed. And they have no rights. My point is that the one providing the safety is gaining control over us. To the degree that someone else provides us with a necessary good is the degree to which they gain control. Some general agreement on safety issues is necessary in a civilized society, for example we agree to drive on the left side of the road and we give the police the ability to enforce that for the common good. We actually give up the right to drive on the right side of the road in favor of public safety.
The issue is how far do we go? How many rights are we willing to give up? How much power are we willing to give to the public servants? If we insist on complete safety to be provided by the government we will be completely safe but also completely free of rights and freedoms.
Video surveillance has the potential to give enormous power to the government. They can know where you are at any time, who your friends are, where you hang out, how fast you drive, where you shop etc. That’s the kind of information that totalitarian governments use to control their people. Are we willing to cede that kind of power to our Caribbean governments? How we answer that as a people will determine the kind of society we develop. Remember, people who are willing to give up essential liberty in order to receive temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Angelo Allen is the Edward Snowden of Dominica.
Angelo is a taLK SHOW HOST.He has to get hot topics to talk about.This looks like a hot topic to me.He has to get ratings for his show. Come on people.Stop calling the man names, Look at this at a different angle.
Wow You mean all these Guys listen to the number one station Q95 ? Go listen to Crazy tee instead He is brown nosing the PM.Seriously Angelo is not against CCTV He is suggesting a legal framework that will protect all .If You did not hear that You probably were not listening.(too much ear wax)
This one got low ratings. He underestimated Dominicans. He thought they would be on his side. Not this time I suppose.
You are in a bad position…as an ex cop. do not be confused when you used your words…the gov’t is responsible of our or the public’s security…hence the reason why what ever is happening on the public street cannot be private.Did you have a plan?Thumbs up to the police and the gov’t…Good job keep the cameras working…
Angelo is to political for my part and Dominicans should stop listen to these people who spread hatred and try to make government look bad just to gain power and wealth.
You seem to be the political blogger. Are you telling Dominicans to listen to the thrash spewed on the Animal Show, AND DO NOT LISTEN TO ANGELO? I don’t think Dominicans will never stop listening to Angelo and others. These people are the ones who have exposed all sorts of corrupot acts committed by our leaders. I PERSONALLY LOVE THEM AND I LOVE LISTENING TO ALL THEIR SHOWS.These are the men who have educated the nation the most via radio. The man is living in a country that is supposed to be one where free speech is allowed to a certain level. I RESPECT HIS VIEWS ALTHOUGH I DO NOT TOTALLY AGREE TO IT. I THINK HE MUST CONTINUE TO TALK MORE AND MORE.
I LOVE HIS STYLE!
You love what they portray themselves to be on their talk shows. You should get to know them personally and see what sort of music will flow from your lips.
Educate, did you say? Poor you. SMDH!
“i don’t think Dominicans will never stop”two negatives here . In fact saying that Dominicans WILL stop……
What does it say about “EMPTY VESSELS”? All angelo is doing is makinf useless noise, he seems to forger his days as a police office. Who is angelo to tell the Government or any one for that matter how to protect themselves. He return to Dominica like he was living in the hill of Wesley and DNO gave him a voice which makes him believe that he can question every and any move the government and the police makes; Angelo stop being a public nuisance and go plant some fig
We the People are the Government! We will tell our Representatives what we want and what we do not want ! This is a democracy Jack and We intend to keep it that way ! If a Party in Power gets too cocky We the People will make the change!”We want CCTV but We want a proper legislative framework for the protection of all !You have a problem with that ? Vent on it we listening !
I detect a hint of jealousy! Just debate the issue. Dont get personal. What you have against the Brother?
well, well, well. listen to his programs on the radio tonite DNO in trouble!
that man closes down q95 and opens it up in the morning. does he hate his bed so much? lol
His bed have peenez.
Should he go to the Red Clinic for money, or should he work for his money and be independent?
I wonder how independent you are.
you will not go to the “RED CLINIC” for money but you will ask for it over the “CELL PHONE CLINIC” so people will recognize you.That’s what you all do.
Seems like everybody tunes in to listen too!Including myself ,I recommend Q95 FM the best station making the Citizens think !
the camera are even more important on a normal day basis because a lot more crimes takes place when people think that they are not being watched, it is obvious that if they know the cameras are there for the carnival they will behave, I say hats off to mr astaphan for his initiative and thought of the idea you go sir
Anything for controversy. Why are people so bias? When good citizens take from their own money to invest in the Country we will wait until they are dead to acknowledge them. Good job Kihmo, the Police and all the good citizens who allowed the cameras on their buildings.
Ahhh shut up, Angelo!!! Go hide somewhere.
Angelo raises a valid point but I do not like the way in which he is doing it. I have always been a proponent of video surveillance. It is a good tool that should be used, but legally. It takes nothing to go into parliament and pass a video surveillance act to set the guidelines for both the police and the public. That footage should be able to be used as a defense tool for the accused.
Stupid. Electronic Evidence includes video footage.
Now yours in a sensible contribution to the debate. But wait. We should probably check to see if this is somewhere reflected in our laws. Notwithstanding, I think you are on point. New innovations such as this, in a still mostly traditional society like ours, require new thinking and legal structures so as to more effectively harness their significance.
Helloooooooooooo, So last year and the other years before, when Marpin, SAT, GIS and others (including overseas camera operators from various media houses) came on the streets for the two days to give live coverage and use footage for news etc…, WAS IT WRONG ANGELO? It was camera right? and you used to jump up and pose for it with your friends, showing off your beer and all right? Now that we are telling the public, hey, while you are jumping up, we have additional cameras, to make sure you are safe because criminals will think twice before trying to stab, hurt or kill, something is wrong with this? Is Angelo really hearing himself?? You vex because a country is taking measures to protect its people? You are so sick. Stop behaving like you care about people Behave yourself Angelo. Get a conscience. If you still have any sense, use it wisely. By the way Angelo, did you have a plan and was it foiled?
“By the way Angelo, did you have a plan and was it foiled?”
Hmmmm!
It is ironic that man who, when he was a police officer, now spends much of his time screaming like a mad man about governments trampling on persons rights. Oh how crazy the world has become!
Yes, Angelo, the public was informed prior to the installation of the cameras. Besides, pray tell, why would a government have to consult you or I about taking security measures to safeguard public places when that government was already elected to do just that? Do you know of ANY government that does this? You are very confused about individual rights versus public security and the roles of the individual and the “government” regarding these two issues. Very confused!!
Surely sir, by now, you must be aware of the abject stupidity in your usual crazy huff and puff. I suggest that you return to the Late Night Show and refrain from commenting publicly on serious issues.
Some people don’t care because they don’t live in Dominica and can’t go back in a hurry.
I think what Mr. Allen is tryng to do is to have a public debate on the issue. What is wrong with that?Isn’t that one of the roles of the media in a democratic society?
Kimo and the police spokesman my question is now that carnival is over with no incidents are you going to destroy the video recodings? The public has a right to know. Kimo it is not just about druming up business for your company.
Kihmo doesn’t have the data in his possession and it never was. Before the start of the jump up the surveillance team at police headquarters which consists of police officers alone had the direct access to the data which is and was stored at PHQ. So NORM get your facts right. And yes the police should come out and say what they are going to do with this data.
Kimo did a very good deed to secure the public. What’ s your point. Sets of wicked people.
Norm you could have done a similar act to drum business to your company.
But we saw it all on TV,so what
same ting i saying. i pullup home watching it on marpin. what is the diffrance
I am so fed up with these critics who will not give credit where it is due. Some years ago, I visited DA for carnival. I was enjoying myself in a band, unaware that I was being recorded on Marpin TV. Later on, everyone who knew me was calling to say they had seen me on TV. Security cameras are not for play back to the public; it is only a means of providing security which we all should appreciate. Shame on the critics!!!
But everybody all over the world saw what was happening on TV and the internet so what really is the point?
Are all the business owner who have cameras viewing their businesses invading the privacy of our people? oh please? We keep crying down our country and when things are put in place to protect our people and the tourists who visit we have a problem with it. Security is everybody business! What have we done for our country? What negative impact and what positive impact have these cameras had in our Country? Answer that Mr. Angelo Allen, do your research and come back to the public. Until then stop tying your political views with the initiative of a private business owner who saw it fir to invest in our country with his money!
Angelo must be silenced. This guy does not portray any sort of professionalism as a media personnel. He is wreck less and should be considered a risk!
We as a country, young and old, fathers or mothers benefited from this initiative. One fatality is one too many! Lets take apart Allen ridiculous broadcast 1 by 1;
The public was not informed – The public was informed on Friday the 28th of March and also on DNO.
There is no Legislation – its obvious he doesn’t read or do research – Electronic Evidence Act of 2010 – Allen Read!
There were no signs by these camera’s – above picture spells a thousand words.
That the Cameras are invading the privacy of Dominicans – if you want privacy Allen stay within the confines of your home – you challenged Norman this morning on a nonsensical comparison about his back yard. A man’s private dwelling house cannot be public same as public streets cannot be private. If you Mr. Allen want to tief a wine on someone’s wife then the public domain is not for that. The Police has a right to patrol the streets in whatever fashion they choose in order to maintain law and order.
The recording and viewing was controlled by a Private Company: again you show your level of intelligence it was said over and over that the viewing was done from the confines of the Police Department. Now your concerned about cameras on the road, MARPIN and SAT has been publicly broadcasting carnival from many moons ago- you were not concerned about that. All you are concerned about is scoring political points. These images were not re-broadcasted. Well my friend this one back fired on you – you are idiotic and continue to mislead Dominicans who are too gullible to think for themselves. You also made Archie come on air and regurgitate your nonsense. Shame on Arhcie, you should know better.
You made mention of camera on the road, what difference is there when a business owner put CCTV on his/her perimeter and of course viewing side walks etc. Couldn’t the same CCTV capture you going to buye ice cream or a meal at an establishment with someone wife?
I can go on and on….but the facts cannot be erased no matter how hard you try. Carnival was a success. The Police Department with the assistance of Electronic Surveillance won and you MR. ALLEN with your utter nonsense you preach recklessly LOSS.
Like one Person wrote – Pick your fights…your going into a gun fight with a knife how stupid can you be. Dominica won, Tourism Won, the Mother’s and Father’s who could have lost a SON or DAUGHTER WON! YOU ON THE OTHER HAND – VERY MISERABLE LOOKING AND UNHAPPY LOST! Dominica we are moving in the right direction Applaud PPl when they do well. This morning you were all hostile on Kihmo, Kihmo, Kihmo with a venom in your voice – you even claimed you didn’t know him but its not the first time you have attacked him publicly and if my memory is good didn’t he used to sponsor your program at Kairi back in the days. You must have never forgotten the money you made so again you are lying to the People and you and people like you want to run the COUNTRY! You must be MADD. If Q95 knows what’s good for them and the people who you associate yourself with they would EXPEL YOU FROM THEIR MIDST! I can stay all day giving you realistic, hurtful and painful blows but your not worth the time. PICK YOUR FIGHTS and stop cutting off people who don’t agree with you! JOKER!!!
Boy, Humble, you really gave it to him in that post of yours, huh? Ouch. That post has sting.
I don’t think anyone should “silence” him, though. C’mon, that call was a bit over the top, don’t you think?
Do you agree that Dominica is a democracy? I did not think so…now you threatening the guys life because you think he has no RIGHT to voice his opinion. You are beneath everything that’s moral, right, true and genuine. Freedom to say what the heck you want is for every one to exercise, not just you Christians. You don’t own the presses, media or your life, as a matter of fact! You cannot threaten anyone’s life and think you can get away with it, your time is coming too, fool!
That is lix……I won’t comment you spoke for all Dominicans…..
“Angelo must be silenced. This guy does not portray any sort of professionalism as a medium personnel. He is wreck less and should be considered a risk!”(Humble March 7, 2014 ).
Now, whereas you believe Angelo should be silenced, I believe the man has every right to his opinion. As long as we live within a democracy, we all have a democratic right to express our opinions. I certainly do not agree with him that having cameras monitoring the activities of our citizens are an infringement on the privacy of any citizen, as long as we are in a public domain!
Assuming that someone installed a camera, and focused it into the bedroom of the home of a person, including a private backyard, that could be considered a violation of one’s civil rights, however, whatever one does in public, in a public place, and pictures are taken of some individual in an act, even simply walking cannot be considered a violation of one’s privacy.
Whatsoever transpires in “public domain” is public, and no one can scream violation, except in a case where someone violates another, by putting their hands on someone person, or violate someone in some other way which the laws of the land deem to be a violation, and that would include slander, by verbally saying something about one that is not true.
We have to be very careful we do not pretend to be a democracy, while we practice communism, and dictatorship; once we start calling for the silencing, or censorship of any one person in our country, might be we are heading into a dictatorship, or down the path to communism.
Angelo has a right to say whatsoever he wish, and it is rubbish to call for his silence, disagree with him if you have a reason to do so, however, I believe you are out of order to suggest he should be silence; in politics that is a very serious, and dangerous word to speak.
In old England one man got up on a podium, and based on what his political opponent said about him: declared “who shall be my avenger?” Days later his opponent was murdered, killed by someone who took on his own to be the avenger; we have to be careful with what we say!
Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
Your contribution highly appreciated Francisco.
Good post.
@ Francisco Telemaque
Now this is a brilliant piece. I read it 4 times.
@Humble So because Skerrit told you all that Dominica is too free, you all believe that people cannot express their opoinion?.Angelo you are free to express your opinion, once it is done in the appropriate manner. This long piece by Humble shows how limited his mind is. Clearly he cannot think.He is one sided like sheep being led to the slaughter.He?She sounds like a mad mad something has been taken away from.He sounds bitter, vex, miserable,DESPERATE. I WONDER WHY.
Humble I love this piece. Enjoyed reading it. PEACE.
Are video footages not optioned from Marpin and SAT on the days of Carnival? Aren’t those recording publicly advertised though out the years without the permission of the general public? Whether we like it or not, the streets of Dominica are PUBLIC! Anything you want private DO NOT do it in public. Why should cameras installed on the streets of Dominica limit persons from enjoying their carnival or violate their privacy? The cameras acted as a deterrent for crime. i enjoyed my carnival knowing that the Police had a view of what was happening in the town, and that if any crime was committed to me or my fellow citizens, these cameras would assist in the investigations. Good Job to Kihmo Astaphan, his team and the Police.
Young Dominican.
Hello and good morning. I agree with your post except for the last sentence. This initiative should have been taken by the Police Department and not in conjunction with Mr Astaphan because he is a private citizen. Now that carnival is over is Mr Astaphan going to take the database where the images are stored and is he going to make a video/DVD. What are the rules as to how long can the Police store the images if there weren’t any crime committed.
Angelo, it is because of all those so called human rights and freedoms that we see so many criminal elements committing serious offenses and getting off based on stupid technicality issues.
The venture is quite good in the fight against crime in the city. in fact, it is a deterrent to crime and if it works, i say install more cameras in the city and extent the project even to Warner.
If you do no wrong, you have nothing to worry about, plain and simple.
Angelo want to gain popularity…like the PM man. He find h enot getting enough popularity. These people are confused and trying to make others look like fools. Everything is politics man! what is wrong with these people. everything went safe and thats’s what matters right now. No one’s privacy was robbed. Dominicans open all u eys.
who the hell is Angelo? Angelo cannot influence nothing.
This controversy regarding CCTV is heading to a slippy slop.The statements made by Mr.Astaphan is somewhat frighting and shows ignorance on his part regarding the role of Government.It should also be noted that The Electronic Evidence Act of 2010 does not give him or The Government authority to install CCTV cameras in Public places,that’s not what the legislation was made for.
It is also frighting when PRO, Inspector John Carbon goes on Public radio saying quote “this is not a matter of opinion … it is law, so it can be done.” I would like to ask Inspector John Carbon what Law is he talking about and why people”s opinion does not count.Who gives Inspector John Carbon authority to make such statement quote “It was done the right way, there is nothing illegal about it,” has Inspector Carbon forgot there is something called due process in a court of Law.
Mr. Astsaphan must not get overzealous in his genuine intent in crime prevention,he must also not be ignorant as to how Government works, he also needs to educate himself on privacy insures and people rights to privacy and consent.It is also my opinion that the integrity of DPF can be compromise regarding this controversy.This issue is not something that should be ignored,this is about giving up privacy for security and should not be decided by PRO,Inspector John Carbon and Platinum Security, people opinions count.
Thank you Gary, that is the simple point that most of the Angelo haters choose to ignore.
Yes there is a law admitting electronic evidence in court, but there is no legislation as regards installation in public places. As it stands any Tom, Dick or Harry can just rock up and do what they want. And I would wager that there is no legal aurhority whichaallows even the Police themselves to install such devices.
But then again, the simplest method of controlling a population is to make them afraid then say, I will protect you.
Peoples safety count more. The police have a duty to mentain law and order and protect citizens. Citizens have a human right to help the police.
Why don’t this man hide his himself faaar away.
Why don’t you contribute a valid comment, then run away when the cops are coming for you, even if you did not commit a crime
cause they saw you on camera just before it happened, and they thought it was you…now you’re going to be locked up 
i hope khimo will give all the good dominican who have the cameras on there electic some money for there light bills. and there internet
whereas I think the cameras were installed as a security measure and this contributed to the non violence during carnival, I think Angelo is making a valid point. There should be legislation in place limiting the use of footage from these videos to matters concerninig the courts.
You are so correct! That is exactly the point!
Mr Allen argument as to the consultation of the public is a flawed one. Mr. Carbon did an excellent job explaining that the public was educated. However, it’s the responsibility of any government be it UWP or DLP to protect the citizens of the country. The well being of the massess must always take precedent over the desire of a few.
On another note, there has been constant allegations of the abuse of power by police officers, and the use of excessive force. In an instance where the police had to intervene during the carnival season the evidence would have been available to determine whether appropriate force was used and the police acted within the law.
The use of CCTV is beneficial to the general public and law officers.
This Allen guy has taken a very strange position.In fact it is almost reckless and ignorant. However, badmindedness is our culture. we say police not doing anything to curb crime. now they installing cameras, there is an issue with that.
Both Carbon and Khimo are missing the point. In their quest to discredit Mr. Allen they seem to step away from the main issue of “public surveillance” without proper consultation and instead focused on the issue of the videos being admissible in court. Those are two different issues.
The question remain; ” Does the government have the legal authority to impose continuous electronic surveillance of its citizenry? “. We know NJIC is constantly spying on us without the proper legal authority and now the installation of cameras in public place without the proper legislation. The idea from a security point of view is great but in these modern times legal framework is absolutely important in such matters. But Change Must Come…
for Change Is A Must, NOT an option.
Assertive, NOT Agressive!
The Government have all the right to protect the country’s citizens. The cameras are in the public street and the public must be protected as best we can.
Angelo try to make a political point without thinking…shame on you ANGELO for being so negative on something that help the public with safety.we need more of these CCTV CAMERAS every where.
Instead of cameras on the streets it would have been much better to install them on those isolated and secluded beaches we have that are being used to import and export drugs and illegal weapons. In other words, put cameras where crimes are being formed before anyone becomes a victim
Right on
Small minded Dominicans are quick to punish you for trying to save their very lives. Well said!
You said “Instead of cameras on the streets” .My take is” IN ADDITION TO CAMERAS ON THE STREETS”
The police cannot be everywhere , but they would have eyes anywhere. That would be a move towards crime eradication. Can you imagine the measure of safety and comfort nationals and visitors would enjoy. So labour power rethink your contribution make it more inclusive.
Shame for what. The man has a right to make his comment, and you have a right to disagree. What does it have to do with shame?
carnival is a process of liminality and functional redundancy.ask dr.sharma about this.it is useless to explain this to the average dominican.cameras take away the freedom to express yourself on the two days that society allows you.what guarantees does one have if a non red man is seen dancing with a man in the band and he is going up for election?
There are cameras in every major city around the world. For example, London is the most watched city in the world. When use properly, the cameras are a crime prevention tool and for the general public safety.
I applaud the use of the cameras in Roseau during the carnival period and hope that they can be installed by business and private citizens to enhance their safety.
The average citizen will feel safer knowing that big brother is watching. Those who feel uncomfortable with the cameras are those who fear the police or may be caught doing something illegal. If you are camera shy then stay home away from public places.
Please read the story again and look for the reasoning behind Angelo’s statement it’s little to do with the company who installed the cameras that was a good thing we are speaking of legal rights and if so then Norma should get herself a good lawyer to open up her son’s case and use the photos that they refused to bring infron the judge
Learn something today: very seldom do Laws have retroactive effect.
The majority of crimes committed in Dominica are not committed during carnival season and they are not committed in Roseau. They are all over the country, on beaches where visitors are robbed and rapped and where a lot of drugs and guns are being imported and exported and the police and government know that. If cameras are only being used during carnival when people are encouraged to enjoy themselves, then it seems to me that the purpose is being defeated.
My boy…As a security measure during carnival, that’s fine. But to just put them in without any legislation on how, when or who has access to the data and in it’s use is another question all together!
I am not prepared to give up my freedom with the PRETEXT of the government trying to ‘protect’ me.
Boy, it looks like Pandora’s box is open…
CCTV cameras have never been proven to prevent crime. The assist police in the investigation.
…and how safe is your little England?
Good response Mr. Astaphans. Seems like Mr. Allen has nothing better to do so he is just spewing venom for apparent reason. I applaud the police and Platinum Security for ensuring that Dominicans felt safe for the entire street jump-up. Good Job
“Seems like Mr. Allen has nothing better to do so he is just spewing venom for apparent reason.”
This is what he does best, actually. Mista just cannot help himself.
Who the hell is Angelo?!All this guy spews is negativism.Hatred and violence.
@Fast N Furious, congratulations to you. I had never seen any of your comments get a 25% thumbs up let alone 50%. Can you imagine you have 20 thumbs up verses 10 thumbs down? What a transformation! This is to show you that the opposition is not just there to shut down DLP as you have been saying. Today most of us realize that our dear brother Angelo is on the wrong side and we let him know that in know uncertain terms although he makes a little sense. So yes, it is not just about thumbs up or thumbs down with us but when you all talking and doing nonsense we will call you out.
@NOT ME ALONE..thanks but yet no thanks for your sarcastic compliment…Your thumbs up or thumbs down bothers me not..I speak my mind and who is offended woe on to then.People like you and Angelo are the same.Nothing good to offer but division and hate.So take your thumbs up and stick them up ^@.
This is for public safety, especially with what’s been happening over the past few years.
NWO
Gov issued ID cards, CCTV…more to come, can’t stop these people…at least for a minute or so.
Astaphans will always defend his lucrative business venture. (I don’t blame the guy) I would too.
tell angelo to go and take a hike.
everything is POLITICS; sometimes we as a people have to learn to pick our battles. the police stated about the camera installation way before doing so; SECOND OF ALL no injuries reported everybody felt safe and was safe; isn’t that what we wanted.. Angelo learn to pick your battles wisely…stop looking to stick pins and hurt others..Dominica has more pressing issues; Dominicans are safe lets move on!!!
I want to hear Angelo talk about men that do not maintain their children, about men that run away from home and leave wives and children stranded, homeless and hungry. When will he ever talk about men who rape their partners’ and sometimes even their own children, and of the countless men who abuse women and children in the worst way? No! He wants to expound on things he has not a clue about and give false information on the state of the laws of Dominica. Angelo, boy. I hear them saying change is a must. Pwen gyad.
The workers trying so hard to make the government look bad they not even realizing at the end of the day is them that looking like the F.
@fAKE RASTA- your name says it all! FAKE
this guy…….. if one of his family was injured on the streets im sure he would be happy to know that police had suvielance. its a public street not inside your house dude. the cameras should stay yr round to help with petty crime and traffic accidents
HA HA, It is funny that I always hear Angelo Allen going on about “change is a must”. Well here it is, that very change. Change in Dominica must not only be political, but cultural, legal, social, education, security wise and the list goes on.
I totally agree with his argument that before one can do such a thing as infringe on ones right to privacy, a whole discussion about the issue of big brother must be debated, laws must be changed to prevent such cases like voyeurism and other misuse of the camera technology. Also persons must be trained to use the technology in a correct manner.
There are so many things the government has to consider before they can take a decision to have cameras watching us. It is a huge and complex undertaking but it is one that cannot be ignored.
We must move with the times and we can jump high and jump low but I am afraid that this is the future.
The problem is not been watched by cameras. The problem is what where the data is stored, what it is used for, is it used with your consent and a range of other questions.
I see it as something which is good for the country especially if we are looking to increase on the tourist figures.
We just need to implement this in a proper way. The blueprint is already there for us to use in the most watched country on this planet,UK so maybe we should use it to put in place a robust system of use when it comes to this
“Allen believes the cameras’ installation was an invasion of privacy. Photo by Q95.com”
It is good to be comical sometimes; it is also a good thing not to remain silent on issues, however for someone to make the claims “the installation of the cameras was an invasion of privacy, is completely ridiculous, and an-call-for comment.
Dominica has become a place where criminals has no regard for human life, people are robbed, and gunned down in broad daylight in the streets of our country: the problem is there are people who witness these crimes; they simply keep their mouth shut, refusing to give the police any information that will assists them in the capture of the thieves and murderers!
Surveillance cameras are the order of the day internationally, if you ever visit London, or any European country, from the time you step out of the aircraft, to the day you embarked again on your way back to Dominica, you are under high surveillance, even while siting in the aircraft flying home.
In America, we live under constant surveillance even in our neighborhood, by the police, and most people who can afford it, and has cameras installed monitoring what goes on in the neighborhood. My driveway from the street to my backyard is approximately 300 feet long, I have surveillance camera installed, and running twenty-four hours per day, seven days per week.
You are complaining about cameras installed in Dominica to monitor, carnival activities, which aids in the safety of our citizens? Man those same Cameras may help to identify your attacker if you a ever unfortunate to be attacked by some culprit. While you complain about a small issue in Dominica, what can you do about the satellites’ hundred of miles out there in Space Monitoring Dominica, and the rest of the world?
Don’t you know, there are satellites out there with cameras that can focus on an object as small a quarter (twenty-five cents) in the bottom of the deepest ocean on earth? You should welcome, and condone the cameras as a safety measure, rather than condemning the measures as an invasion of privacy.
Do you know how many times over Cameras in the United States, England and the rest of Europe have helped police, the FBI and all to capture terrorist before they could carry out their dastardly deeds?
The Cameras in Dominica, is not a violation, nor an invasion of any privacy, and if you are on Radio creating that impression, you need to case such ridiculous sentiments.
Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
Telemaque,…just what you explained there is what I understand Angelo is raising,. They are all over the world in the UK, USA etc.
1. Are you aware of the laws that sanction them to be operational and how they should not be abused and misused.
2.Are you aware of the level of debate that has gone in the UK, in parliament, radio talk shows etc before they system was installed.
3.Are you aware of the restrictions placed on these CCTV.
4.Are you aware of the life of these public recordings and how they should be disposed of?
5.Are you aware recently the bugging going in UK AND PEOPLE ARE NOW BEFORE THE COURTS BECAUSE THESE SAME SYSTEMS WERE ABUSED BY JOURNALIST into the private and personal life of the citizenry, who were targeted.
6.Are you aware where Mr Snowdon is now and why he fled USA and is now on the run and hiding in Russia? If it was ok, why is he running.
7. Are you aware that Mr. Snowdon stole these many recorded voices, taped by the government (Big Daddy) and now he made them pubic, why…?
8. It is either the government whom the people trusted, abused their power and the security system to protect these citizens were NOT strong enough.
9. Are you aware whether we have that level of security protection, and system in place that someone recorded jumping up with a man or woman would not be a matter for mepuis and discussion by those holders of the recordings.
10 Are you aware of the “security” and “protocol” in place to protect these recording?
These are the questions Angelo is asking and never once I heard Angelo said he is NOT in favour of surveillance cameras, but rather asking for protocol, due diligence, control, assurance of privacy of all of us, YES all of us. Etc.
Now having read this I appeal to all those who appeared to be so critical of Angelo to return to your original script and abuse on Angelo and try writing something again to educate me and the public of security and protection.
No. 7 – ‘public’
Angelo again??? He is the same who talked about Venezuela creating a military bases in Marigot when they were upgrading the airport. Here he goes again with mis-informing the nation. Mr. Allen sir, be more responsible with your utterances; and then we wonder why “WE” Dominicans are not developing mentally. Shame!!!!
So he continues to be a misinformant and deceive the people, inciting them to hatred.
So when Marpin and SAT filming carnival,that illegal too Mr. Goovie Bat
Mister just trying to make a name for himself as a day-time talk-show host. No one pays attention to him except nite-nurse and bishop.
Time for Matt to come back and take over the Hot Seat
Angel for a so called educated person you sure talk BS… i mean you people will have a fight over everything and anything… get a life
only a fool will be against that
ANGELO COME BETTER THAN THAT ,
Mr Angelo Allen has raised a legitimate concern, so let us commend him and here’s my reason why (read on).
The Dominican government and agents of government, please take note…
To avoid infringement of civil liberty rights, as it relates to steps to be followed in planning and implementing of CCTV surveillance schemes, the guiding principles for the establishment and implementation of CCTV in public places are as follows:
1. ISSUES TO BE CONSIDERED BEFORE ESTABLISHING A
CCTV SCHEME
• Identifying the problem
• Establishing a Community Safety Committee
• Representation on the Community Safety/CCTV
Committee
• Crime Assessment
• Developing a local crime prevention plan
2. LEGISLATIONS: PRIVACY AND PERSONAL
INFORMATION PROTECTION ACT & WORKPLACE VIDEO
SURVEILLANCE ACT (OR SIMILAR)
3. SETTING OBJECTIVES FOR THE CCTV PROGRAMME
4. COMMUNITY CONSULTATION
• Stages of consultation
• Monitoring private residences
5. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF KEY AGENCIES
• Local council responsibility
• Dominica Police Service responsibilities
6. OPTIONS FOR POLICE ACCESS TO CCTV MONITORING
EQUIPMENT
7. CONSULTANTS /PRIVATE SECTOR INVOLVEMENT
8. INSTALL AND TRIAL CCTV SYSTEM
9. LOCATION OF CAMERAS
• Environmental Assessment
• Commercial Assessment
10. LIABILITY ISSUES
11. STAFFING OF THE CONTROL CENTRE
• Control Centre staff training
12. CONTROL AND OPERATION OF CAMERAS
13. COMMUNITY INFORMATION STRATEGY
14. ERECTION OF SIGNS
15. COMPLAINTS
16. COMPLAINTS HANDLING BY LOCAL COUNCILS
17. MONITORING AND EVALUATION
• Collection of data
• Publication of evaluation results
• Alterations to the scheme
18. AUDITING
• Incident reporting and analysis system
19. CODE OF PRACTICE, PROTOCOLS AND STANDARD
OPERATING PROCEDURES
20. TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS – ISSUES FOR PUBLIC
CONSIDERATION
Now, if this failed to happen (as per Mr Allen’s article) then the whole CCTV SURVEILLANCE process was flawed and breach of ‘international’ requirements
D/can in England
(36 years serving this industry sector in the UK)
We invite demons into our lives then we complain when they begin acting up. Dominica be careful of what you ask for. Stop acting on impulse then live to regret it. Great point PoKeSa.
EXACTLY!!
If you reside in England, you know darn well there are thousands of Surveillance Cameras, all over the place, subways, tube, or whatever you prefer to call then and the streets of London too. Do not be a hypocrite, surveillance camera’s has become a necessity these days; helping to curtail crime!
One should not worry about them if they are not involved in the commission of a crimes.
It is unfortunate that Allen made that un-call-for statement; I men we argue about the volume of crimes in our country, and how the police is ineffective in the solving of crimes, now that they have made an effort in doing something with the hope of apprehending the criminals in the act; Allen seems to think it is an invasion of the peoples’ privacy.
Nobody in the world criticizes the status quo in Dominica more than I do; however, this effort I cannot criticize, it’s a good thing, and I wish the surveillance will remain permanent, maybe, they will help catch some crooked politician, or even an police officer accepting a brown paper bag with something illegal in it ( I doh what eh), may be something they thief!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!
In any event the the culprits may want to think before committing any crime. I would like to suggest also that they; the police utilize the Cameras that cannot be seen; they should utilize those as small as a button, and install them at strategic positions, attached to a transmitter, which transmit the actions to a base such as the police station where someone could monitor the city at all times.
That is my wish!
Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemque
Some bosses utilize the computer which is set up for that purpose, the old fashioned way, to spy on their employees. I do think this is wrong. They even want to install them in washrooms of their business.
PoKeSa, We know that however, the supporters of the NWO refuse to warn the populace of what is to come from this evasion. The massive amounts of data being collected…don’t think for a minute that it’s only to capture crime and violence, this is going to be worse than F/B. This is for a collection of data from every citizen in Dominica, who is recorded, good or no-good. I only hope people do research and know what’s happening. Good bye Dominica(ns)
To PoKeSa
I agree with you entirely, this is how it should have been done but lets be honest this is the Caribbean not just Dominica and it would never happen in such an exacting way. However if it is going to happen a lot of the factors that you highlighted must be discussed.
I live in London and know about the SIA. Everyone seems to be giving Angelo a hard time on here but what people do not realise is that he is not just running his mouth but has a very very valid point.
This sort of snooping opens up all sorts of problems and they do become more apparent especially when there are no or very little guideline or framework by which people do have to work within.
It is not as clear cut as it seems Dominicans. I have worked with CCTV in 4 different countries and let me tell you there are a million dos and don’ts.
So stop jumping on the guys back but understand that its not as simple as that.Thanks
Time to get Angelo Allen off the bloody air waves… this man has become beyond annoying. At least this year it was reported that Dominica had a crime free Carnival celebration
I realy don’t have a problem with the cctv if it is part of the security tools that is used for carnival to keep the public safe.now that carnival is over are the cameras still being monitor are they still on.
YES!! AND that is what the problem is!!
That is problem the cameras should have been turned off when carnival was over.
Angelo i have always supported you but this time i think you speak pure crap, you have no basis to support anything you are saying on this topic. tell me what is private on the streets of Roseau during carnival. are you stupid or getting stupid? Kimo i think your initiative was great hearts of to you, you are playing your part in social responsibility.
Angelo is right. What happen to individual freedom from the state, don’t u know that most individual Dominicans would certainly be “secure” – as “secure” as the East Germans were. But as the “East Bloc” nations discovered, the one agency against which they had no security at all was all the internal secret services. Having no such security, any arguments for privacy, Individual Freedom FROM
The State, or unhindered Individual Liberty in thought, speech and peaceful private action was void.
Is the skerrit administration limited of unlimited? Our government is gaining complete power over the Lives, Liberties and Estates of the general public who live their lives in civil society.
Politically, this is in fact a blatant claim by government that all citizens ARE its property! For any human being, to be property is to be a slave.
The point is trust.
As a business person you should do what is necessary to gain the public trust rather than getting involved in politics.
Politicians come and go.
What does installing cameras for the safety of our citizens have to do with politics? Everything does not have to be about politics.
Angelo needs to learn when to shut his mouth;thinks he knows everything.
I reside in Florida, walking distance from my job.There is a school along the way on the sidewalk between my home and my job.By the school is a surveillance camera that is on every day recording.
Lord only knows how many times I have been recorded just passing by…is this invading my privacy? At least I know I’m not doing anything wrong than just walking to and from work.
I agree with the police– I think the cameras were necessary — good move !!!!!
DNO should not have wasted space and put this up. Angelo Allen needs to get a brain, this make no sense.
Stupes……..Angelo has nothing better to talk about! Everything is an opposition….When will it stop?
If this is an invasion of privacy, what do you call the footage when the guy was stabbed to death a few carnivals ago?
What. I guess places like banks, airports, universities etc. invading your privacy too. The cameras are set up to deter would be criminals from commiting crimes as they will be caught on film. The footage will not be used for any invasion of privacy its their to protect the people.
Thats the most idiotic statement I’ve heard for 2014. Thats what I cant take with some of these media personalities. Anything to bash the your opposing party no matter what.
I never listen to his program anyway.
hmmm
Really! Mr. Allen, we cannot be in public and expect privacy. Cctv are a good tool to help fight against crime. You all claim that the government is not doing anything to combat crime on the island but when steps are taken you all complain. Really!
This man dont have anything to say, cameras are places on all Streets here in paris and all over the world! to make sure there people are safe!
Angelo too much for the public these days…so if it made the little hooligans behave and have the rest of us safe what’s the deal if you were not going to commit a crime. He was a police once who was sadistic and beat up on people a lot he maybe forget now
angelo makes no sense
angelo u make no sense . .
Mr. Astaphan is right. There is no expectation of privacy for actions conducted in public. At public events, there is a plethora of recording devices (video cameras, cell phones,Ipads)among the general population and these are being used all the time. I have not heard anyone complain of privacy issues from these recordings. Does the fact the police is now doing so make it an invasion of privacy? It would be a different matter if someone was being monitored in their home or private office. Mr. Allen is on the wrong side of this issue.
true talk kimo
Just like in England, cameras on every corner, but in this case Platinum gets the contract. This isn’t the only invasion of privacy that is coming. Govt.’s don’t understand that they are servants of the people anymore. Time you got someone not connected to a major political party in charge of actually serving the people and the country. As long as they can be paid off with political money, they will not be serving you.