The organization in charge of the Kalinago is expected to work in close collaboration with the Dominica police force to monitor the movement of non-Kalinago people who intend to take up residence there.
There have been concerns that in order for the Kalinago culture to grow, indigenous people should stick to their race and refrain from marrying or having children with other races in Dominica. There have also been concerns that since the Kalinago people own the lands, no other race should be allowed to settle.
Kalinago Chief Garnette Joseph said the issue of non-Kalinago’s taking up residence in the Territory is still a major concern for the council.
“Some of the activities they engage in, we are not in approval of it. There are some people who come to the Kalinago Territory and their intention is not good,” Joseph said.
He said the Kalinago Act says persons can reside in the Kalinago Territory if they are invited by someone, but he noted that this is also a concern.
“We had a meeting with the police to work out some mechanism to allow us to monitor the activities that persons coming to the Kalinago from outside are engaged in,” he said.
Mr carib chief be quite in other words shut the f….up.you been elected more than once ,tell me what have you done,you guys use carib territory in a sick way to obtain what you want,you guys make tha outside world feel sorry for the carib people like they are incapacitated.you want those keys. dont you?had you gotten them your greedy heart would be at peace.you guys amaze me……
i think you all need an outsider who has a kalinago heart… not an insider with an outsider’s heart.
what and How are we Kalinagoes benefitting from the Carib Act? Chief and council please take care of more pressing matters to improve the lives of our people rather than looking for things that are outdated. Want or not we will be a mixed race because even though the woman cannot bring in a black man but the man can bring in a black woman so tell me what kind of children will they make? certainly not a Carib so come on. look at opening the new health facility and improving our feeder roads instead of looking at an obsolete act.
focused person you are Kalinago. i like you…. looking at the essentials instead of some wet dream.
The Kalinagoes a one big family so what chief saying he supporting incest? Come on the council stop stifling the progress of the territory and using it as a pawn to gain riches for their own selfish desires or the benefit of a few
Lmfaoooooooooooo d carib chief want all dem carib girls to him self !! hahhahahahaha
TOTALLY DISAGREE!!!!!! WA IZ MR PROBLEM NA……………??????????? I suspect that Chief want to make Negros racist wit Caribs!!! We Are All Dominicans and we should Go to stay wherever we want in DOMINICA…. Mayb Because we Negros Breeding those Carib woman more than Carib Man that does trouble him bad……… Garcon, Pas La!!! sa pas Twavai…………….. LOL
YOU KNOW THE BLACK MEN MARRIED HIS DAUGHTER THATS WHY HE VEX…
ALL THE CARIB PEOPLE KNOW THAT
HIS DAUGHTERS HE VEX ABOUT
the carib chief is vex, upset and mad that the negroes men are taking his OWN nice daughters…
Slowly but surely the Chinese are taking over Dominica. Is there anything wrong with that?
The Chief is right in defending the culture of his people.
Otherwise the government will have to step in to change the laws refering to their land.
well i agree with preservation of culture. but eviction based on race is not step one now is it?
Hello are you ok in your brain Chief??? I usually support whatever you write about improving the lives of the Carib people, but not this time.
Who want to move to Carib Territory??? Why would I leave other areas to move there? Now, I hope you going to tell your people that occupying our land to give up their Certificate of Titles move back into the Territory because that just not making sense to me. You trying to block us from coming in but your people can go out and occupy our land.
As for the part about all you marrying your own race – I’m all for that – better for us. You making it sound like we coming and capture your people and force them to marry outside and have children. Tell them – keep their legs close. You can even put chain on all their foot to prevent them from leaving as a matter of fact.
Just a point, Chief. Are you a full Carib??? You don’t have any real caribs anymore – anyway. Only half-bloods are there now. So what race are you trying to keep alive: One quarter Carib-Three Quarters Black; Half Carib-Half Black; Half Carib-Half-White; One Quarter Carib-Half White-One Quarter Black; and the list goes on……
I am in total agreement with the Chief; The Caribs (Kalinago people) has been part of Dominica from day one, even long before Columbus and the nogro slaves that were brought there to work by European so called landowners. So what is so wrong in keeping (Pure) a little piece of what is already a diluted Carib culture. Dominicans can be proud to be one of the only Islands in the world to have any remnant of the Carib culture. Remember why the Caribbean is so named. I know some of you are saying that it is time to move forward and integrate, but what can honestly be gained by doing that, that hasn’t been done already. Moreover, the Caribs trying to regain their true Carib culture, would be an asset to Dominica, in the view that they could attract potential development of tourism on the island. See what happened to us as negros; we are now so diluted that all we do is look at each other and squabble as to which one of us is more lightskinned than the other. More so, social standing in D/ca is still now based on how fair you look. I could go on and on. shame!!!
I am in total agreement with the Chief; The Caribs (Kalinago people) has been part of Dominica from day one, even long before Columbus and the negro slaves that were brought there to work by European so called landowners – FACT
so what is so wrong in keeping (Pure) a little piece of what is already a diluted Carib culture. – ADOLPH HITLER
Dominicans can be proud to be one of the only Islands in the world to have any remnant of the Carib culture – NOT MANY OF THEM SEEM TO KNOW THAT LEAST OF ALL CARE ENOUGH TO WANT TO KNOW.
I know some of you are saying that it is time to move forward and integrate, but what can honestly be gained by doing that, that hasn’t been done already – A HELL OF ALOT, REMEMBER THE EUROPEAN UNION GOT SET UP FROM USING OUR CSME AND CARICOM SET UP AS A MODEL.
Moreover, the Caribs trying to regain their true Carib culture, would be an asset to Dominica – WHERE IS THE KALINAGO CUTLURE? I HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR IT FOR 3 YEARS NOW AND FOUND OUT IT’S BEEN BURIED BY EUROPEANS…ALLEGEDLY LOL.
in the view that they could attract potential development of tourism on the island – BEFORE THIS PART COMES THE VERY BASIC PART CALLED BREAD AND BUTTER ISSUES.
ee what happened to us as negros; we are now so diluted that all we do is look at each other and squabble as to which one of us is more lightskinned than the other. More so, social standing in D/ca is still now based on how fair you look. I could go on and on. shame!!! – WHAT’S NEW? THATS A WORLDWIDE THING.
Stop using the term “black” and be AFRICAN. Why accept servitude? Learn from Kalinago. They are brave and what they say comes from having pushed EVERYONE back. The rest of the islands were taken over by Europeans and their enslaved African people. Kalinago were the only ones to resist time and time again.
This is Dominica, expressing our ignorance in a world wide forum. My dear people please get a copy of the Carib Act, a copy of the ILO 169 convention which is ratified by Dominica, get copies of the various summits of leaders of the Americas as it pertains to indigenous peoples all over the Americas, their rights and the resposibilities of our various countries when we ratify these documents. Get educated before making such frivolous statements re the rights of the Carib people. The Carib Act was prepared and accepted by our Government of Dominica and England as a requirement for the Independence of Dominica. Get our facts right……….the fact is the fact…….whether you are black, Carib decendant, Carib, White, Chinese or other get the facts right before we blow our ignorantrumpet.
here again haven’t that served its purpose a we going to be hels as slaves and kept in poverty because of an act that benefits only one set of people?hey come on u in yiur comfort. it is time that we are freed from this bondage called the Carib Act that was passed since donkey years ago and has not been amended
What good for the goose good for the gander. Magway sa racism is a sin in the sight of god because he has no favourites. yet look at what happening top people in church preaching racism
you are properly brain washed, ignorant, ungreatful to the struggle of our ancestors and do not even deserve to live since you are a bad egg amongst the rest
WELL SAID CHIEF…. WE SHOULD LOOK INTO FORMING RELATIONS WITH INDIANS/CARIBS OF GUYANA AND TRINI…. CARIB AND EASTINDIAN WHAT A BEAUTIFUL COMBINATION.
AS A YOUNG KALINAGO WOMAN I INTEND ON STICKING TO MY ROOTS….
GOOD THAT YOU AGREE WITH YOUR CHIEF… SO NOW PEOPLE FROM AROUND DOMINICA
SHOULD TELL YOU TO STAY ON THE CARIB LAND .
All the land on Dominica belongs to us read through the pages of history to learn th truth
All of Dominica IS Kalinago land, u idiot
If they told us to leave tomorrow, they would have the right. I would be more respectful if I were you. This was not our home to begin with. We came into it because of unfortunate circumstances, but no right have we to tell Kalinago how to be. Their laws are their own. This is their island. We are a permanent guest here and should continue to be gracious. Unless you want to act just like the Europeans who went up on everyone else’s land telling them to move or pay a price. You would not like that done to you, so why even resort to such thinking?
GET UP STAND UP,STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS ! Well said,we have been used and abuse for much too long,this is the new generation,we shall not be moved.Keep up the good works,remain kalinago always !
just dont work against yourselves ok kalinagos…
not good,
I read the the comment fro the carib chief,but pls allow me to exspress my piont,I’m arubean,my father indian people, (los arowaks,) and my mother african decendents yet we people mix back home we have too,cause the race is slowly die out, but i dont see why not mix the race,and yet let the live in the carib,let the carib man or woman keep the land and the non carib dont own it simple,
just my opinion,we dont have land in aruba like the carib,we wish
pls love each other no hate,
The word is Arawaks.
@Los Arawaks,
Please don’t mix things up. We need to keep our land and heritage. The chief also needs to look into Carib men bringing in negro women or outsiders because they too are spoiling the race.
I am a black man and i totally agree with the cheif.. We cannot invade the people space even if it is dominica… Dominica for Dominicans for real but we are one of the only country in the caribbean to preserve the true indigenous tribe why u want to come and do away with that now….. Leave the people in their place..
Jah man… i thought i left all this bulls.. in America. The Native Americans (indians) ask for the same thing, they got their land, but they had the casinos to fall back on, even though the gov’t practically turned its back on them leaving some reservation poor as dirt. Chief, what do you have to fall back on…Oh i forgot, “RED CLINIC”.
3rd Degree.
Dit ‘Joseph aye ped eveye’ Dominica is for Dominicans to enjoy, I’m from a village in the North of Dominicam and we do not invite anyone including Calinagos, but we welcomes everyone who wish to sta,y whether they they behave themselves or not., If they behave themselves that would be great , but not everyone behaves any more.Jorinocco, Who made you a G are not the police let the police take care of theany innlgalities that citizen ebgage with,Galinagoes goes to other villages and they are welcome there as well, given food , places of abode, roofs over their heads,etc,, Please Joseph, there are a lot more important things to be of concern about the Carib people to worry about. THer a good people all over Dominica, IN every breed of people there are some thT do not behave themselves. Some CARIB people lives other places and do not behave them selves just as the few bad eggs in other breds.I have been to the Carib Reserve a number of years ago and there were Caribs being ‘Drunken and fightings in the stret they were sure not from other villages and other breeds.Please Joseph you behave like the ‘Racist of the past. We do not need to ‘Reinvent ‘Appartheid on our small island. I f you want to incite ‘Appartheid and prejudice on the island i suggest you should go back to the Amazon and Orrinocco in South/Central America where you come from. Go back ovber there and tell people not to come and live in your Little ‘HELL’ GO back to your little ‘Hell’ JORINOCCO, JOLINAGO’
what u really trying to say there nuh???
Just how much CARIB?Kalinago blood does one need to be considered Carib/Kalinago?Too many distractions. The Kalinago people need to tackle the real issues.
sir i think you should go to school and learn….on weekend your moda send you school man?
To hell wif mr man! Is best he build his own high school n banks etc so dat they wud not associate dem selves wif non kalinago… Wtf!
i totally agree they just rasist i find n by the way caribs living all over da no prob in dat ha? de cheif jus fraid black man cuz dem carib wiman head soft lol
what hogwash,black woman for blackman,yes the carib girls are soft because they allow you niggers to abuse them.stop being jealous of those beautiful women.
@stupes, i hate them nasty comments. you accusing the kalinagos of racism but you are racist yourself. been a hypocrite lately?
The statements from this Chief is going to start something very bad in Dominica. WE have all been hearing the debate about the few opportunities available to the Carib people by the various Chiefs over the decades and we’ve all been very sympathetic towards that cause. We’ve generally been very supportive of the achievements of the kalinago people. We are very proud of our Caribs. I don’t know about anybody else but I do not feel any differently towards a Carib as I feel towards a black, white, indian (from india), Chinese descendant who has been born in Dominica. We are Dominicans…I respect all races and celebrate all humans for being humans and working hard to achieve some form of success. This statement however is very divisive. it could have been phrased much differently so as not to fan the flames of hate in this ‘small’ society. Listening to these words reminds me of the time when blacks were not allowed to enter ‘white only’ clubs or schools. It reminds me of those days when women were not allowed to vote…why? because it was felt they did not ‘belong’. It also reminds me of decades ago when interracial relationships were frowned upon and people were treated as outcasts for falling in love with someone who was ‘different’ on the outside.
I note that you think you are making this statement to protect your people’s identity. But times have changed. Many can equally argue that the black race is under attack as interracial relationships are on the rise…there are so many blacks in relationships with whites, asians…this world is a melting pot. a melting pot of cultures. Times have changed. People have more access to each other. Transportation makes it so easy to travel to a different hemisphere in less than 10 hours.
What will you do when technology makes its way to the Territory? it’s only a matter of time. The Kalinago will not remain in poverty forever. There is a new generation coming up. They will want Technology. They will want to travel. They will want to experience different cultures. We cannot stop what the next generation will do.
I hope this statement made my the Chief will not fuel any more animosity than it already has. I pray that Kalinagos as well as black Dominicans, White dominicans, Asian Dominicans.(yes, we do have a lot of different races, as well as .mixed race, Dominicans here,Chief).
Please love each other and be respectful to each other. We may share different opinions but it does not mean other races must attack the Kalinagos because of the remarks of the Chief. Likewise, Kalinagos please do not attack other races for feeling offended. Hopefully someone in authority will address this issue promptly before it gets out of hand. The comments I’ve read thus far on this site is already showing what is to come if the authorities do not act quickly.
I must congratulate Mr Joseph on this move. keep it up. we are getting there slowly but surely.Too many times we have persons from outside the territory coming in with ill intentions. At first they started bringing weed, now it is crack, cocaine, harsh and the guns are now showing its face, they bring division and other social tensions. sooner or later we also need to institute territorial entries so that we can monitor what is being transported into the territory.
Please continue to enforce the ACT to its full potentials. And to the haters out there the same act that we are using it was draft and enacted upon by your own brothers who were in government at the time so it is not anything new. So before you all start bashing the cheif please go through the act and constitutional rights of the kalinago people. This is a new year and i think there is no need to begin with criticising each other. Lets work to gether to develope each other. happy new year
I AM A BLACK MAN AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE CHIEF.
BLACK PEPOPLE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN THE CARIB TERRITORY. THESE PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE THEIR RACE AND CULTURE PRESERVED.
THE BLACK PEOPLE SHOULD LIVE.
I THINK ITS A BIT LATE THAT THE KALINAGO ARE COMING INTO THEIR OWN BUT ITS A START NEVERTHELESS.
…AND YES THOSE FORIEGN NAZARINE PEOPLE SHOULD LEAVE TOO.
So chief what happen to freedom of association? Doesn’t this apply to people from the Kalinago Terrritory?. If people from outside the Territory cannot live within the territory why are the Pastors from the Nazarine church residing there? Does this apply only to one set? Come on we are no longer in 1943. It is time that we break away from the generational curse and move on to the next level. We would be better off integrated into the wider dominican society rather than being segregated on a little piece of Dominica that has no value to us because we cannot use it.
you sound like one of those intruders
intruder what the Carib Act has too much barriers that holds us bondage and in slavery. do away with that and move on
i need to read this act. is there an e-copy online or something? how can someone get a copy? people need to learn before they make comments that don’t befit someone of proper knowledge in this matter. help us to help you.
Outsiders can come into the territory only if they r invited n their actions need to be monitored.
has the Nazarene pastor offended u in anyway. Wat bout the Priests as well??
stop hating…
The Nazarines reside there but the priests do not. They live in Castle Bruce or Rosalie.
Well said!!!
There are more pressing issues to deal with within the territory and the ACT. We complain about being poor Whose fault is it? THE CARIB ACT. blame it for all the restrictions and stupidness that it entails. Give every Kalinago a piece of land so that they can have there own title to access funds and better off themselves instead of putting restrictions on us to force us to marry. We do not need an increase in incest since most people in the territory are related.
stop this biasness and racist attitude. The woman cannot bring a man but the man can bring woman so what difference does it make? No wonder all our trained and educated people will move out of the territory.come on next level
come on Mr Joseph the carib act needs to be reviewed and amended since there are many things in there that are just pure nonesense. Look at our fellow brothers and sisters in St. Vincent. they are integrated with the rest of the country and are doing much better compared to how they were before why cant we do the same?
@ Kalinago Resident, I understand and agree that the Kalinago Act needs to be revised and amended but in answer to your question, the Caribs in St. Vincent did not originally live on a reservation that’s why they are integrated. Let’s understand this people. The land which was given to us from our own original land, must be kept as ours because if we lose that land, we have nowhere to turn to. Then the outsiders are going to make fun of us because we have no “home.” We are not able to take loans on the land because of these restrictions so what are we to do? Lose what little we have and stay empty-handed? You must be one of those Kalinago women who is in love with a black man and he brainwashed your a….e.
it is so interesting to read the views of some people.
There is nothing to stop anyone from purchasing property anywhere in Dominica, except in the territory….That piece was set aside for the indigenous of Dominica, the caribs/kalinago. This piece of property is commonly owned by the Kalinago people and all the chief is saying is, this should remain so.
Therefore all these comments about tell them to stay in their place and build a wall and all this nonsense should not be voiced.
Ii is the same as if I would go settle on Mr Watty’s estate. It is not mine. So when/if he tell me to get out,,,all i have to do is pack up and go,,,i should not fight with him for what is his.
It is time other people respect the Kalinago people and what they stand for, and stop thinking they are beneath or a lesser people than you all.
I am black. I totally agree that the Carib Territory should remain occupied with Caribs only.
It’s our history, that doen’t mean which are segregated.
I am not Kalinago but I have 3 brothers who are mixed. 2 have reside in the territory for their entire lives. I’v e visited and felt @ home. The land belongs to them and should remain that way other Dominicans should not try to go in and take land from them.
Mr Joseph , the last real Carib(true blood) died a while back you are a descendant of Caribs, go do a DNA to check you blood line” you mo niggar than me ” and the next black person . jump off this racist crap you guys have inter breed, cross breed, mix up mix up so many time it would take a real expert to find your true genes. W e are all Domincans take it or leave it CAN WE JUST ALL GET ALONG N LIVE TOGETHER. i am as black as the next negro but my grand mother was of CARIB origin and i can surely trace my roots straight up your alley.
well just now we will need a greencard to stay a month in the territory and a visa to visit for one day hhhhmmmmm,,,,,no probs chief once i can do my lil jooky no probs
dat is nonsense…. most kalinago people dont like there race now a days…
you need to shut ur mouth…
hhhmmm
SAD BUT SEEMINGLY TRUE
VERY SAD
@ Sunflower, before I make you wilt, you had better shut up! No one asked you to speak for the Kalinago because I am one and I’m very proud of it. I do not know anyone of us who is ashamed. If they are, it’s because of people like you who have tried to make them fell more than less.
how can u make such crazy statements? y don’t u start by finding out whats your true name. u have a white man name. u r no different than your african brothers and sisters living in dominica. and lets get the facts right, u did not defeat the white man when he came to da. if u did, there would be no africans living in da. the white man did lynch your … the same way he did your african brothers and sisters. after the white man lynch your … he brought in the african slaves to do the work that your drunk … could not do. the problem we have as african people is that we are too loving and forgiving, because after the white man lynched your drunk … we africans turned around and treat u like family and gave u a portion of land called the reserve, today u turn around and think that your drunk … is superior to us african. fire burn u.
NO!
WE BLACK AFRICANS DID NOT GIVE THE CARIB PEOPLE NY LAND; THE ENGLISH WHITE MAN DID.
FIX UP YOUR HISTORY
yep mr bell did in 1901…. sadly.
@Amonrah Kobadi,
Get your facts straight! The reason that there are Africans living in Dominica is because the white men brought them there as slaves. Those who were brave enough to flee, they did so but did not know where to turn because they were unfamiliar with the terrain. The Kalinagos were very familiar, they befriended the escaped slaves, known as the Maroons or neg mawon and hid them in their huts and the forests. They also assisted the Kalinagos in future raids on the white men. As the island become more populated with white folks and Africans, Mr. Alexander Bell, who was sympathetic to the plight of the Kalinago, realized that Kalinagos were being pushed out of all the seaside areas, example Roseau, Itassi (Vieille Case) etc. That is because they lived primarily on fishing and farming. He therefore used his authority to draw up a plan and reserve a piece of land which he termed the carib territory. Sadly, that piece of land was where is it today along the most treacherous terrains in Dominica where it has the rough Atlantic Ocean and no longer the peaceful tranquility of the Caribbean Sea. That is how it got there. Administrator Heskeith Alexander Bell, reserved the land out of sympathy but he did not give it to us because the island IS OURS to begin with!!!!
Yep stay away from our black men
I AGREE
The carib cheif is the first person to throw out of reserve .I think that he is letting that carib cheif thing get to this head a little too much.who he think he is with his foolish self .i have never heard such crap .shame on you mr cheif.
I AM PROUD TO BE BLACK, AND I ALSO WANT OUR CARIBS IN DOMINICA TO BE A PROUD PEOPLE, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DISCRIMINATION, RESPECT THE CARIBS THEY GOT THEIR BEFORE US ,THE LAND TRUELY BELONG TO THEM,OR WE MAY HAVE TO GIVE THEM BACK THE TOWN AND MOVE IN THE CARIB TERRITORIES.BLACK MAN IF A CARIB WOMAN WANTS TO SLEEP WITH YOU IN TOWN ENJOY,BUT KEEP OFF THE RESERVE BEFORE YOU GET A BOW AND ARROW ACROSS YOUR BUTT.
We have to cut the Kalinago Chief some slack given what his people have gone through. He is only enforcing the laws as they relate to his territory, 3 700 acres. Yes, they do have a right to settle anywhere in Dominica but we do not have a right to settle in the Carib Territory. Would you allow anyone to settle on the property for which you hold a title? You won’t even allow a rastaman to date your daughter, let alone allowing him to screw her in your house.
This is not racism. The Chief has not said that Caribs are superior. It is not about Caribs vs Blacks. The Aborigines of Australia, the Seminoles of Florida and other indigenous tribes of the USA have the same privileges on their reservations. That was the colonialists way of attempting to make restitution for their guilt of plunder, decimation, rape and forced labour. Too bad Black people never got their 40 acres and a mule (the reparation promised). We could not unite for our 40 acres; let the indigenous people defend theirs.
All i will say is this:
The Act of 1978 needs to be reviewed. If the Carib Chief gets his way there will be lots of inbreeding in the Kalinago tribe and eventually they will wipe themselves out. He may have to import Caribs from Guyana and St. Vincent to keep the Indeginous people pure and free of genetic problems. Please advise him that mixing, mingling (whatever you want to call it) is good for the Kalinago people.
On a more serious note: That Law need to be reviewed and amended to keep up with the NEW CENTURY
oh my god… why does this sound like a zoo. common man…. pitch them comments in a humane way. but yes the law needs to keep up with the new century.
My only question is: Isn’t the rest of DominicA big enough?? Why is it thAt others wAnnA settle on the tiny piece of lAnd put Aside for the nAtives??
because my dear kalifuna… now people realize that this is the most beautiful and enchanting place now all my beloved kalinagos have to do is protect it, not turn the preservation of their beautiful kingdom into a racial battle…
Just abide by the law. In a modern democratic state the law is supreme. Why do we have a problem following the law. If you don’t like the law, do what you can to change it, but in the meantime abide by it. If what the chief is saying is based in the law, then, so it is. If what he says is contrary to the law then it matters not.
Kalinago people are Dominicans and as such are entitled to the rights afforded a citizen of Dominica. The fact that the law provides a special arrangement as far community land ownership in Kalinago country does in no way affects the Kalinago individual’s rights to live any where in Dominica he or she pleases.
He maybe just there for d money. well craibs will have to stop going to other people village. Who would live up there it full of big millipedes. bata carid
This little island is called DOMINICA, and the land belongs to ALL Dominicans. Kalinago or African West Indian, we are Dominicans. Asking for the Kalinago Territory to be solely Kalinago is very short sighted. It is blatant racism. Dominicans should be able to settle anywhere in Dominica. Will you be asking all Kalinagos who reside else where in Dominica to return to their ancestry homeland.
As for mixed marriages, are there enough pure Kalinago people that are not somehow related. Are you advocating incest, interbreeding. Do you consider the children of mixed marriages as Kalinagos, are they accepted by their extended (Kalinago) families.
Regarding crime, are you telling us that Kalinago people are ALL law abiding.
Chief Joseph there is so much that needs to be done for the Kalinago people, please concentrate on that.
I for one respect the Kalinago people, and feel that they will always be a very important part of Dominicas history, no matter where they live.
The only person that making caribs feel inferior are themselves! Do you know that just like the American Indians you guys were tricked to take just a little portion for yourselves? It was so that people could use the rest of the land. Caribs don’t own land. Nobody does! Infact wasn’t it the Arawaks who first landed on Dominica and many other islands? The hostile caribs killed the Arawaks and took over the land. So hence it not even all you land in the first place! We both black and caribs and those mixed others
are on the arawaks land. So that act is just ridiculous. Another question, If you own a whole table right and somebody come and take the table and give you one leg and say hold that, would you let them walk away with the rest of the table? No you wouldn’t!
@MSthomas you guys weren’t the forerunners of this land. And I highly doubt that the african population wouldn’t be existing on Dominica like barbados that have no more caribs, like antigua, like st.kitts etc etc. I think carib people have a sense of entitlement like anyone else who think because they come in second they have absolute rights to a property. You guys came in second and the arawaks who came in first aren’t alive to help portion the land because your ancestors murdered them all. Anyways if is trouble caribs want, we blacks arne’t columbus who don’t know this country. You all try to make blacks feel inferior. every race on this earth does this to africans and their descendants. It such a shame because caribs haven’t even proven their own worth on this country to want to demean black people. What you all shoot a few bows and arrows and me and my family should be greatful? As I said the africans on many of the other islands survived slavery without carib help so I believe in some way my ancestors would have been successful as they were. peace out
You know what chief, when all is said and done i agree with you. I live on the Negro side of Dominica, close to the Carib Territory Country :lol:; growing up my mother always told me to “leave caribs for caribs.” When i hear the carib chief speaking like that i know she was right.
Anyway since you have proven over time unable to tell Negroes what to do in their own country, rather than put restrictions on us why don’t you put restrictions on your people? See if they will pay attention to you because we the Negroes really not listening to you.
I propose a new law that will take care of this problem, All caribs live in the carib territory, and the rest of the people live elsewhere, All negroes and whites need a pass to go through the reserve, and the caribs need a pass to go outside of the reserve. lock up all other races that marry or are otherwise romantically involved with caribs. Set up a carib currency that they can only spend in the reserve.Appoint Garnet Joseph carib emperor………see how silly that sounds? thats just how silly you sound sir.
Is this CHIEF going to pass a Law stressing that his people should not mix/marry outside the tribe? Would it not be better if schools/centres/youth clubs were organised within the Territory in order to teach the culture/habit, and thereby passing on these cultures?
He cannot dictate who falls in love with whom. Will he then take it further and insist that certain people within the territory should only marry/live with certain families there-in.
The road within the territory which is used by non caribs, how will he work this?
He title CHIEF should be strip from him.
masieur give them their banks, hospitals ,schools ,ministries etc and tell dem stay away from Negroes please.
Why are we always jumping up and down when someone says something we don’t agree with. Let us do some research, and then decide how high we should jump…
Who has sovereign right to the land?
Here is what I found. scroll all the way down to the bottom (Carib Reserve Act). Very interesting.
http://www.da-academy.org/caribhist.html
Now. on the issue of inter-marrying: It is a matter of free will to choose your mate. however, there is something to be said about maintaining you original identity. At the end, though, one should go where he/she finds happiness.
Mr. Joseph I know 23 caribs in my village ( Senjo ) i am coming home next week to deport them.
Like the Africans would say, stupid man.
Unbelievable! It is shocking that this man would make such a statement. I never thought that I would read and hear such a thing. Not in Dominica I say!
This is the reason why he wanted to change the Carib name to Kalinago. Give me/us a break!
He had something up his sleeves, so to speak to primarily deceive specifically the government.
Look here so-called chief Garnett Joseph, my advice for you is get it into your head that you are a Dominican; always have been ever since you were born there which includes your tribe. All lands/villages in Dominica belong to the Dominican people and not solely to you and your so-called tribe. Dominicans are not of a foreign country. It is their land too and are free to relocate anywhere in Dominica. You are making yourself as if you are in a foreign country and other Dominicans are foreigners and strangers. Not so!
You place yourself and your tribe as being superior to other Dominicans who are not of your tribe. You are not! Get off your high horse and self-proclaimed discriminatory position. The Caribs/ Kalingo are no better than other Dominicans. To me, you and your tribe will always be Dominican Caribs as I have known since a child.
Who devised this Kalingo act? Did you apply to the Dominican government to devise it? Did you receive the government approval? Your act is redundant. It is discriminating against fellow Dominicans. You are causing divisions, lack of peace in Dominica and looking for trouble.
If you wish to have a village, an area and a country for yourself and your so-called tribe try finding one elsewhere – out of Dominica.
If you hope to receive government assistance at the expense of Dominican taxpayers, you better change your tune. Otherwise you should be ostracized and you and your clan will have much to lose, suffer and regret. This means, you will not be entitled to Dominican taxpayers’ funding.
Dominicans are one people, whatever our parental heritage. May the Dominica government never, ever allow this division.
May the Dominica government advise you accordingly that your discriminatory plans are not feasible and do not benefit Dominica, Dominican residents and the purpose of specifically peace and unity among all Dominicans.
WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL SAID.
I agree with you 10 fold! This man’s last name is Joseph, do you know how many non-Kalinago share this name? I ask you sir, how did you arrive at having this name? Shouldn’t your name be more Kalinago? This man is clearly delusional. When I look upon his wide nose and big lips it makes me say to myself what makes you any different from me as a dark skinned Dominican? I am as much a Kalinago as any other Kalinago on the reserve and I have as much rights as any other Dominican does to purchase land in that region, to take up residence there, to wife a woman and bring forth a child if I see fit. NO PREJUDICE, NO RACISM IN DOMINICA!!!!!! We will deal with those who perpetuate this attitude steadfastly and accordingly. He is absolutely causing a rift and rubbing people the wrong way.
So black people are not welcomed in the reserve, but Kalinago can come to Roseau, get jobs, have children, send their children to our schools, make families and its alright, but when the shoe is on the other foot there is a problem? I don’t think so, we’re definitely not going to take this issue laying down. I say to you Garnett Joseph with your English name and the rest of your Caribs, if you truly feel you are any different than the rest of us Dominicans, then you need to return to your native South America and see how far your “race” grows down there.
You speak like an educated fool! Dont you know the history of how the land was handed down? Nice paragraph…but your words sell you out that u do not know history. know your stuff before you speak.!!
We preserve our national siserou parrots……we need to preserve our culture…..whether we want to accept the fact or not…we all know that people travel world wiide to see the caribs: they are important to dominicas economy. They are part of our culture.
Caribs are not the only one that get Government assistance. So watch your mouth! And besides how many non Kalinagos are in the territory right now? very few…maybe less than 5…! There are lots of other places they can go….so why make a fuss? the cheif never said you all couldnt visit? he said you all cant SETTLE..and thats a big diffrence.
There are many cultures in Dominica to preserve; not only the Carib culture. Preserve your Dominican culture, African and other heritage as White. This is what is important. Remember the days of slavery?
They doh want black people in their village but they want black people tax money!!!!!
My advise to all you is to make river change its course and let it flow all round all you reserve lands so all you women will leave black men alone. Make sure all u have all u yellow passport when all you visiting Marigot , Portsmouth, Roseau, St. Joseph , Grand Bay and other parts of Dominica.
Are you saying that caribs dont have government jobs? Do you think that all caribs sit home and make baskets or wat?
As for that black men thing you all have talking about….if black men didnt like carib wwomen…they wont settle with them. So stop that. The feeling is mutual. the cheif never specified black men..he encouraged kalinago relationships. Love has no color…but encouraging a people to do something isnt wrong….
how much are work permit cost Mr Garnette to work in the Carib reserve i not from the kalinago i from the commonwealth of Dominica, well what this world is coming to
Why jump down the back of the Chief? He is just enforcing the Carib Act of 1978, which is the law of the Commonwealth of Dominica. Here are some aspects of that law:
-No person residing outside the boundaries of the Reserve is entitled to take possession of land in the Reserve or otherwise acquire lands or an interest in lands there.
-The lands in the Reserve are held in the custody and under the control of the Carib Council for and on behalf of the people of the Reserve.
-The Council has power to prevent persons who do not normally reside in the Reserve from working there or from occupying and cultivating lands there in their own right.
– It also has power to prevent people who have no right in the reserve from entering and remaining there.
-A person who normally resides in the reserve is entitled to invite non-residents there, so long as the visit is for a lawful purpose.
This is the law of Dominica and it has been taken for granted since its inception and Garnet is just now trying to enforce them.
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Please so give the Caribs thier own airport, seaport, hospital and high school .. Keep them segregated from the rest of us see how they will make it in life.
Too little, too late.
indeed.
i agree – soooooo tooooo late
When UWP gets in power we will repeal that divisive law !!!!!
OH PLEASE IT IS A STUPID MOVE TO GO BACK IN THE PAST NOW ISTIME TO MOVE FORWARD
NOT BACKWARD .. WHY NOT SAY YOU WANT US TO HAVE A TITLE FOR OUR LAND GARNET
CHILDREN CAN GO ANYWHERE THEY WANT BUT TELL ANY CARIB TO GO GET A LOAN OR A VISA THEY CANT SO STOP THAT BACKWARD THING AND LETS GO FORWARD……. GARNET
NEED TO GET OUT
As black as garnett is he talking like he so 100% carib.. Sure!!! Secondly
Caribs have been coming into roseau and causing trouble since as long as I know. Third this is 2011 no land should be especially distributed to just one race on an island of about 75 000. There isn’t anyone with guns hunting down carib people, their children go to schools amongst other races in dominica , they sell their food in the city market, they get more help than most dominicans because they are carib. Talking about losing their race…mmmm well let me inform you that when the kalinago people were migrating they didn’t only stop in Dominica. Infact if you go mexico you will find a large descendant population of kalinago people. In guyana you go there and find a small population just like Dominica. So Garnett you can trust that if some carib boy or girl decide to go with some black man or woman in Dominica it won’t cause your neanderthalic behind to become extinct! It isnt necessary to have special privileges in Dominica. There are hungry black people here as well. Its dispicable how races find it necessary to treat black people like they are some disease. I could make an argument that carib men are drunks. I mean seriously besides being academically inept thats what they are noted for. But does that makes sense? Maybe not. But the way garnett going he seems quite high on something.
By the way garnett if you want to preserve the Kalinago gene and race why don’t you use a kalinago name????? SMH
Wow you took the words right out of my mind….
Mr. Joseph….
Dominica to Dominicans or its citizens is one nation, one flag and one people under the sun – blessed with 365 Rivers and the pride and joy of the region – The Nature Isles. Dominica to its people (its most treasured resource) is a state of being undivided or unbroken completeness or totality with nothing wanting. This oneness really is the quality of being united into one.
So what must prevail? Don’t mess with the change in the inherited traits of a population through successive generations. When a population splits into smaller groups, these groups evolve independently and develop into new beginnings. Evolution must prevail!!!
Ever see real racism here in our little country? Stupes this man speaks like a fool.
This kind of rhetoric from the Kalinago chief should be addressed at its soonest. The gov’t must pay great attention the his tone of voice so as not to insight other Kalinago people to take violent actions on innocent visitors and friends who go the the area.
Well, I agree with the Chief because the Carib Territory is the only land which we have to call our own, unlike the rest of the citizens of Dominica who are able to own land and actually have a land title. If we allow non-kalinagos to settle there, it means that over time, we will lose that land to them and our tribe will be wiped out…
I feel any Kalinago should be free to love and marry whosoever they desire but when they do, move out of the Kalinago territory but be free to visit. As for those who say that Kalinagos living elsewhere in DA are not discriminated against, where have you been living all these years??? It is well-known that the Kalinago people for ages and even today have been looked down upon and discriminated against. We have been through too much to let go of the little which we have left….
To those who say that the Chief is mixed race, he was born and raised of Kalinago parents in the Kalinago Territory. His mom is a black Carib or “Garifuna” as they are known, also born and raised in the KT with long, straight, jet-black hair, this is whom he got his complexion from, so plz back off…. It is ironic that due to his dark complexion, he is considered mixed, yet when the truly black-skinned Kalinagos mingle with the rest of the population, they are considered Kalinago regardless.
Chief, your statement may be unpopular, but you are on the right path! Keep it up! All indigenous people’s worldwide are demanding their rights and we are no different!!! Mabrika!!!
besides, this man is not only speaking from up the top of his head, THIS IS THE LAW – THE CARIB ACT people…
The law like that of the one in the USA protecting the american indians were initiated because at the time the country was being taken over by many different settlers. So to protect the indigenous people they created this act. Do you see anyone trying to kill caribs and hunt them down? Do you see caribs working as slaves? Do you see caribs not being able to go school? Infact you all chose to not go school right? This is nothing but hostility and if you all continue on this path you will cause civil unrest in Dominica. And by the way how much is the carib population again? You should go to the government and ask them to remove this act. It is restrictive to your people in the territory and discriminatory to the rest of the Dominican population. The funny thing is you all say people looking down on all you, but I remember being 6 years old and on a nice bus trip when all of a sudden grapefruit and coconut start hitting a bus with children on it. That image is of hostilty and savagery. The only people who created images of the caribs like this is carib people. So you all fix that image of yourself. When all you send all you kids to schools in roseau without assisting reach the level of the roseau kids (blacks) and other people call em dum, is that black people fault too? Take responsibilty for your own actions and stop trying to blame people. This act is discrimantory against the races in dominica and Joseph is a total racist. I ain’t seen one carib bring dominica into the 21st century. If anyone shouldn’t get special privileges is the carib territory. This dominica, its for everyone. we can all have our prejuidices silently but there is no need to be little others. We can do just the same! You point a finger at me you have three pointing back right at you! BTW my grandmother is carib and she marry a blacker than tar man from delices and she ain’t living in the carib territory. Say you all don’t want to improve. At some point you have to start moving on. There aren’t anymore european settlers . Just regular Dominica black people who also deserve respect!
Please spare me, prejudice is prejudice even though a racist law is in place to protect it. You’re a racist just like the “Garifuna” chief
i support ur statement,,,n i’m a black man,,,,i don’t see the big hoorah we making out of that,,,,i have supported that claim since the last chief brought it up,,,,but the last chief daughters were dating black guys so his call or claim made him look like a hypocrite
The chief is right. There are all kind of races with the Dominican nationality now. Dominicans are selling their land to them. These people will turn around and push the kalinago out of the territory. I am a descendant of the kalinago. My greatgrand mother was a full kalinago, she had my grand mother for a black man. She then moved to other parts of Dominica. My grand mother was a black kalinago who had her children with black men. I intend to search for my roots, not to have their land but to know where I came from.
Its AmAzing how Some ppl cAn be so ignorAnt. Isn’t the rest of DominicA big enough for the rest of the Dominican populAce??
C’mon its just a tiny piece of land put Aside for the natives!! We deserve what’s rightfully ours!!
good so stay on that ‘tiny piece of land put Aside for the natives’ and don’t come out
SO U SEE U SHOULD GO BACK TO DOMINICA SUTT!!!!!!!! YOU SAID IT NO (TITLE) THATS WHAT WE NEED TO WORK ON GETTING
SUTT
AND MAYBE U SHOULD NOT GO TO ROSEAU BECAUSE ITS FOR BLACKS
The Chief’s mom was ‘probably’ mixed too. maybe you don’t know everything…pure caribs are not normally dark skinned. it is possible to have long jet black hair even if one of your parents is black. you could just get the dominant gene from the parent with the ‘long, straight, black hair”. As a matter of fact, many of the residents are Carib descendants, not pure Caribs, because there has been a lot of ‘in – breeding’ going on for a long time. Are those who have black parents discriminated against? I’d like to know… please don’t defend the Chief’s words because in this world we live in, discrimination is a very contentious issue. How would you feel if you were being discriminated against in the Big Apple because you are not ‘from there’ and told that only persons born and raised in NY can purchase property there and live there? How would you feel if you have your home yet you cannot choose who you want to move in with you because that person does not fit with what someone else wants for you? We want to be part of the global melting pot, don’t we? Sometimes, sacrifices must be made. The question is how far will we go to get the things we want; You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
I have seen Caribs with brown skin.
well i will have to leave my wife for the chief since i can’t go back up there lol
The man is taking about “taking residence” in the Carib Territory – their land! He never said that outsiders cannot pass their, or temporary stay there.
lmbo
America and Guade Loupe put visa restrictions on us, now Carib Territory! Come on. Last i check i am a citizen of Dominica, not the negro specified part of the country….so excuse me if i find this to be …………stupzzzz
THIS MAN IS MAD HE WANT TO START A WAR . WELL YOU KNOW WHAT THE CARIB PUT HIM THERE AND MAYBE THATS WHAT THEY WANT BECAUSE THEY ARE ACCEPTING EVERYTHING HE SAYS JUST LIKE CHANGEING THE NAME CARIB TO KALINAGO AND THE DID NOTHING …… THE MAN IS GOING BACK IN TIME WHERE DOMINICA IS MOVING FORWARD!!!!!
MY CARIB FAMILY WAKE UP WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TO LATE!!!!!!!
Wake up. You all the black ones should wake up and see what is happening. The chinese taking away your lands. The Haitians taking away your lands. You should stand up and protect our heritage now before it is too late.
Make up your mind, which is it, YOUR or OUR? pick one…you cannot be both
I can see his point…There is a reason its called Carib Territory, ok people…if you doh have business there y make it your prob?
show me where on the map you can find the country Carib Territory? It says Dominica and my passport clearly read Dominican. Stupzzzzzzzzzzzz
allu hypocrite eh,,,,,the activities non-kalinagos engage in is the jooky jooky lol
cuz u can tell the difference when u hearing moaning in the night,,,,,if is a carib man,,,,u might just hear,,,”wweeeeeeee” but if is a non kalinago,,,,u gonna hear wwwwwooooooooyyyyyyyyyyyy n that can be real disturbing to the neighbours,,,,they will hear the woman say,,,,marcus marcus marcus!!!!! n we all know caribs don’t name themselves names like marcus so it must be a black man!!!!!
Sir
In this modern day and age their is no race other than the human race. All that crap about preserving the carib race is nothing but racism with an economic overtone. Garnet cannot get black women so he retaliating by talking that sheet and keeping the “carib” race pure is solely for tourism dollars if you ask me.Hail Mary Full Of Grace….
For anyone who is a patriotic Kalinago..they will understand where the chief is coming from. The issue is not about discrimination, but ways in which the kalinagos can preserve a dying culture. The Land is a mark that the kalinagos once fought for the freedom of Dominica and as a result…Dominica was the last island to have been conquered by the white settlers. So the rest of you who speak about kalinagos your neighbour and they should move if the cheif ask a non kalinago to leave…you are talking NONSENSE…Dont forget..that we were the forerunners of this land, and as much as you all would like to make us feel inferior..we are NOT.
The land is a GIFT to the KALINAGO…if you are not Kalinago…WHAT DO YOU WANT THERE? ..Dominica is large enough and rather unpopulated to inhabit..why the kalinago territory?
Why try to further disrupt and mess up what little we have left?
I refuse to let anyone speak bad about my people…and i will rally around my chief. Anyone who is a carib and does not see the logic behind what is being said is a kalinago by looks but not by patriotism.
And another thing…the Chief DID NOT..say that Kalinagos MUST marry kalinagos…he was only encouraging that type of unity..however if that cant be helped…you are still free to choose your mate.
SO dont be narrow minded…open up your minds!
i think you are the one who needs “the mind opener”
Listen up people,remember these people are trying to preserve their race,nothing is wrong with that.They were given land by the government years ago as a reserve just for their people.My God,what’s wrong if they want their people solely to be on that piece of land.Let dem Caribs breed with caribs only in that area.I don’t think it’s racist but the chief should be careful how he speaks in public.We are all sons of the soil,the Dominican soil afterall,but i undertstand they’re trying to preserve their race.Let dem try, some of dem caribs girls will still break-out for the black man loving.
just look at your last name… Thomas doesn’t sound very kalinago to me…it sounds DOMINICAN.
if it was theirs in the first place, then who can give them their own place as a gift?
n peeeps behave allu self,,,,MOTS dat say so lol,,,,the kalinago defended this land we call dominica,,,,so they have every right to settle any where in dominica,,,,,but as a matter of thankfulness towards them for making it possible u r alive to type today on b.b n laptop,,,,,they have a portion of land which we should all respect,,,,,black men or non-kalinagos leave them carib women alone,,,,only time u have right to send a ‘rap’ is if they come in ur community,,,,but don’t go in the territory to take them women,,,,u can’t buy land or set up house in the territory so don’t go there claiming is with a friend by the time u working the next door girl,,,,,,behave allu self,,,,again karibs have free will elsewhere n apparently we don’t have in the territory n that should be respected,,,simple,,,,no big hoorah bout it,,,,the u.s.a has the same system,,,to the point where natives run there own affairs,,,,able to have casinoes in states which don’t permit them elsewhere,,,,,but again when u go black u can’t go back,,,,so kalinago ladies,,,we black men can be addictive to other races,,,the only women who can understand n deal with us on our level are black women,,,,so kalinago women behave urself cause the sweetness will have u coming n coming back 4 more,,,,
so ‘Kalinago Empress’ i guess i was right hhhmmmm since u couldn’t believe men like me exist,,,,i’m not telling any woman or man who to love,,,,but if i was a carib for the sake of my generation and my people,,,,i’d try my utmost best to get a carib woman to have a family with b4 any other,,,,,that’s all in the effort of preserving ur kind,,,,,,i don’t think the chief is mad or delusional,,,he has every right for such concerns,,,,just that i don’t agree that once my step-dad was almost beaten while visiting,,,,,,by some drunk carib men bcuz my mom looks kinda carib (she’s not o.k bon!!!),,,,so they had an issue with that lol,,,,but dat was donkey years ago,,,,,but u know the saying,,,”once u go black u can’t go back” white chicks confess that saying is the ‘WORD”,,,,,so that’s why they love us so,,,n we love them too,,,,but i’m just concerned for our people
garnette is a gatay wase how he end up having two english names .and he dont know a word in the carib language hes woman is a half black he should queation his legitimacy first sacre sort dominica is for all dominicans
Why jump down the back of the Chief? He is just enforcing the Carib Act of 1978, which is the law of the Commonwealth of Dominica. Here are some aspects of that law:
-No person residing outside the boundaries of the Reserve is entitled to take possession of land in the Reserve or otherwise acquire lands or an interest in lands there.
-The lands in the Reserve are held in the custody and under the control of the Carib Council for and on behalf of the people of the Reserve.
-The Council has power to prevent persons who do not normally reside in the Reserve from working there or from occupying and cultivating lands there in their own right.
– It also has power to prevent people who have no right in the reserve from entering and remaining there.
-A person who normally resides in the reserve is entitled to invite non-residents there, so long as the visit is for a lawful purpose.
This is the law of Dominica and it has been taken for granted since its inception and Garnet is just now trying to enforce them.
The question is : What makes a Kalinago “Kalinago”?
How much Kalinago ‘blood’ must be in your veins for you to be Kalinago?
10% , 50% or 100%?
Be careful how you answer this question chief Joseph. You can never tell that somewhere in your history your great-great-great grandmother could have been raped by a white ‘masah’ thereby revoking your claim on that same Carib Territory you hold so dear to your heart.
Hello are you ok in your brain Chief??? I usually support whatever you write about improving the lives of the Carib people, but not this time.
Who want to move to Carib Territory??? Why would I leave other areas to move there? Now, I hope you going to tell your people that occupying our land to give up their Certificate of Titles move back into the Territory because that just not making sense to me. You trying to block us from coming in but your people can go out and occupy our land.
As for the part about all you marrying your own race – I’m all for that – better for us. You making it sound like we coming and capture your people and force them to marry outside and have children. Tell them – keep their legs close. You can even put chain on all their foot to prevent them from leaving as a matter of fact.
Just a point, Chief. Are you a full Carib??? You don’t have any real caribs anymore – anyway. Only half-bloods are there now. So what race are you trying to keep alive: One quarter Carib-Three Quarters Black; Half Carib-Half Black; Half Carib-Half-White; One Quarter Carib-Half White-One Quarter Black; and the list goes on……
That’s not democracy Mr. Joseph!! You can’t come and tell those people who they can marry.. so if a carib marry a white man/woman, and the person got his/her land in the teritory you going and tell them because the husband/wife is not carib go outside and build their house? nonsence! Looks like you will have to put a lash on them so they won’t move, because even though you want to preserve your culture and race, you can’t force them to do something that they don’t want to do..
This man is CRAZY!!! doesn’t he realize that he is starting a ‘racial war’ in D/ca. to say that non-Kalinago persons should be allowed to settle in the Kalinago territory is ludicrious. What if we the non-Kalinago residents decide that we don’t want Kalingo’s in our area?
And what activities do non-Kalinagos engage in that Kalinagos don’t approve of? Mr. Joseph, negro or Kalingos, we all reside in the same land and should strive for unity not disunity. Mr. Joseph himself appears to be the product of mixed races so he should be the last person fighting for that cause.
true dat ..how he a carib and hes surname is joseph he should have a carib name he maybe a gatay wase himself ..he not pure carib so he should question his legitimacy
this is real. what about the caribs who are living in other parts of DA. when u start doing this people will run them out of their villages. I know so many caribs in my village, all came to sek jobs and are gainfully emplyed and happy. Do we send them back? i dont think so, so mr chief, rethink
Well tell them stay in their place and do not come anwhere else in Dominica. When one get a man the whole family does move in. So if non Kalinago cannot live in Kalinago then all Kalinagos elsewhere should return to the territory where they belong. i agree with the chief those Kalinago women need to stay away from our black men.
lol@ When one get a man the whole family does move in. but its true
This post by the chief is interesting to say the least. I am particulary interested in the part about Kalinago sticking to their race and refraining from marrying outside their race. While i can understand to a certain point what the chief is saying regarding the preservation or the Kalinago race, the chief has to also understand that we have a limited Kalinago population in the country. It’s not like the Kalinago people exist in Dominica in Vasts numbers and how often do the Kalinago people travel abroad in hopes of meeting other Potential Kalinago mates? If he wants the Kalinago people to stick to their race, then maybe he should organize some kind of event bringing together Kalinago people from neighboring countries and in that way, the people may have some other choices to choose from within their own race. With the situation as it is, sticking to their own race sounds good but in practice, does not make much sense unless he wants interbreeding or incest.
That’s a very strong point you made. The Carib population is not low about 3000,this means majority are related one way or another.. That would be one great royal family..
Guess he never looked at that aspect of it.
he he he
I am not a Carib (my grandfather was), I agree to the Chief. The Caribs have legal rights to this portion of land – it their property. Would you like someone to just come and live on your land illegally? I see where the Chief is coming from. And him encouraging Caribs not to marry outside their race is what a Carib chief is expected to say to conserve the Carib race. Look at it from his perspective.
what a load of crap about preserving race..are u kidding me…the Carib people need to look at increasing the education of its people and providing ways to raised them out of their economic slum. There needs to be a change in the minds of the Carib people because while they out there beating their chest about keeping true to the race the rest of the island and the rest of the world is moving ahead.Give me a break..some of these peole need to find ways to elevate their families and stop withthis nonsense…find ways to feed your children and get out of poverty..smh
Sir
In this modern day and age their is no race other than the human race. All that crap about preserving the carib race is nothing but racism with an economic overtone. Garnet cannot get black women so he retaliating by talking that sheet and keeping the “carib” race pure is solely for tourism dollars if you ask me.
His perspective ki sah! Observer the chief not pure carib… His forefathers should have thought about that a long time ago
Build a big wall but again the Carib ladies love the black brothers.
U all love us
i have to disagree with the chief on this one. this is racist and not good. it will close up their society and make them more disconnected from the outside world..
So let me get this straight!!! They banning black people from the the “Reserve”? queschoon. Does this mean that all the “Kalinago” people that are in other parts of DA going back to their area? They cannot “settle” in Roseau or Possie or Wesley anymore? Just axxing…
Good question Mr. Joseph. R u getting police assistance to bring them back to the reserve?
Garnet needs his head evaluated by Dr. Taeed if he can be found. I am sure Garnet would be given mad medicine. Hail Mary Full Of Grace…..
Well Mr Joseph I find you really stretching it. So my kalinago neighbour should move back to the Kalinago Territory man? And should the Kalinago lawyer only represent Kalinago persons? Soon you might block non-kalinagos from even traversing the Kalinago Territory too. You enjoy so many non-Kalinogo amenities like electric/gas stove, refrigerators, motor vehicles, cell phone, computers, modern medicine, to name a few, yet you do not want your race to mix with non-Kalinagos? Oh please Mr Joseph, spare me the drama.
are you saying all these goodies/amenities came from you?
Come on stop being critical.
This is the Carib Act.
What needs to be done is a revision of this act.
In a nut shell, that part of the Act says if non kalinago male marries a kalinago female, he is supposed to provide for his spouse, and has to take her and go where ever he choose to settle down….outside of the territory. And if a kalinago male marries a none kalinago female, he can bring his spouse into the territory to settle down.
“If non kalinago male marries a kalinago female, he is supposed to provide for his spouse, and has to take her and go where ever he choose to settle down….outside of the territory. And if a kalinago male marries a none kalinago female, he can bring his spouse into the territory to settle down.”
And that is sexual discrimination. Guess the female kalinagos do not have the same rights as their male counterparts……isn’t that interesting. So even within the territoritory there is discrimination…hmmmmmm.
yeah and this is not conducive to preservation of a race. it does the same old mixing up they are trying to prevent. if you want to maintain a certain race, why is there mention of provisions for intermarrying? no mixing is no mixing. period. i need to examine that act to see if these contradictions are not from hearsay or if they exist for real. it dont sound right.
Ok hear me out. I clearly understand that there is the need for Caribs to procreate with each other in order to preserve the Pure Carib factor and the culture. But come on. How can you possibly do that? The percentage of pure caribs still alive in our country is quite low. Most of them are Bata caribs. no matter how you put it… they not pure. What can you do about them? Run them out? In regards to that, how are they going to keep the in that same race when maybe half of them related? What kinda incestuous behaviour will we be promoting? A Carib is just as any other race in the world. It is true the numbers are low but they are the same human beings with different features. Saying they are to marry only their race is like saying black to black, white to white, indian to indian; and we all know that ain’t gonna happen. Everybody has their personal preference. There are carib women who leave the reserve in search for a nice ‘negre’. It sounds like soon you all will start deciding who you all daughters can marry and who they can’t. In this day and age!!!?? It sounds really racial according to how you look at it. We do not run the caribs residing outside the reserve back to their territory, and I betting my last dollar is not those black folks up there alone that doing the ‘unapproved’ things. It too late to check that eh padnah.. Shoulda tried that a couple decades ago. If you have to get the blacks out, half or three quarter of the reserve empty. The chief himself not looking pure. Anyway… I hope you all can claim back the Kalinago Territory but do it in a sensible way. Educate the young ones.Teach them the language which is almost dead, and the dances; they lack something- go back to the roots, the Kalinago roots.
P.s If the police grant you all the ‘mechanism’ to monitor their activities, don’t have non- kalinagos feeling like prisoners.
we have some caribs that settle in possie there come and get them ok come for them before no trouble lol
I wonder if the chief himself is a pure carib/kalinago – whatever they choose to call themselves now. Stupes. I am married to one who considers himself a carib as his family was born and raised there, and he thinks this whole thing is soooo absurd. Why not focus on having the folks acquire their land.
Mandingos moving in and Kalinagos moving out of the Territory,Kalinagos and Mandingos interbreeding……….sometime in the future the Reservation will have to be disolved!!!
I see them all the time, bringing in the drugs, “hold-them”
What about is the caribs are discriminated OUTSIDE the territory?? Think about that cheif!
This man is crazy. How can the Carib people settle into other area of Dominica with out any restrictions and now the Carib chief Garnette Joseph is trying to restrict the free movements of other people in that area. You gat Caribs living in Concord , Marigot, Roseau, and other villages and no one have ask the police to keep an eye on these people. This man to try and seek ways to improve the lives of his people before he talks about non-Kalinago people who intend to take up residence there.
I totally agree with you. Aren’t we all dominicans?
i second that fada