“The act of abortion should never be an option.” This is one of the many messages that leader of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan, left with Dominican audiences during a two-day visit to Dominica.
He made that appeal to students of the Dominica State College (DSC) when he addressed during his visit.
Farrakhan told the students that while the age of consent at “16 years” makes it legal for young people to engage in sexual activity, careful consideration should be given to choice of partners and end result of those choices.
“Once you start having sex, you have the right to open your knees to somebody that’s going to be responsible, but once you get pregnant you will see how much he likes you after that,” he said.
The controversial Muslim leader went on to tell students that despite the available options, they must reconsider the act of abortion given that their child could be the next person to make a significant difference in the world.
“Once you get pregnant, this womb of yours, sisters, is sacred. That’s where God operates, in your womb…..the next scientist to overcome disease, the next leader to lead the people to their destiny will come from your womb….so the protection of your womb is critical for the future of Dominica and the world,” he stated.
“An unwanted pregnancy may interrupt one’s education but once the act of abortion or killing life has started it is not easily stopped,” he warned.
Louis Farrakhan was born Louis Eugene Walcott on May 11, 1933, in the Bronx, New York. He joined the Nation of Islam in 1955 and in 1978 led a breakaway group of the Nation of Islam that preserved the original teachings of Elijah Muhammad. In the 1980s, Farrakhan was criticized for makings anti-Semitic remarks; he denies being anti-Semitic. In 1995, he led the Million Man March on Washington, D.C.
Farrakhan was in Dominica as part of a 13 nation Caribbean tour which took him to Barbados, St. Kitts and Dominica among other countries. He left here on Monday.
DNO ADMIN!!!!! It seems to me that Behanzin put an interesting perspective on Farrakhan’s visit here when he was not invited to his father’s grave side, why don’t Admin. do a story on the explosive interview Behanzin gave Lennox on his programme last Sunday! report it, the interview was his typical style, no holding back!!!!!!
Like or Dislike: 1 0 DNO Why????? December 7, 2012 DNO ADMIN!!!!! It seems to me that Behanzin put an interesting perspective on Farrakhan’s visit here when he was not invited to his father’s grave side, why don’t Admin. do a story on the explosive interview Behanzin gave Lennox on his programme last Sunday! report it, the interview was his typical style, no holding back!!!!!!
Has Farrakhan ever been pregnant? Why do men wish to tell women to deliver a child or no.
I think everyone has their right to give their opinion on the things that pertain to life.. God is a man and he gives us basic instructions in the Bible and we follow them.. So this has nothing to do with if you ever carried a child or not!!
Anonymous,you claimed to be a Godly christian woman.You may kick God out of the government of America. But for your information the God you are serving has not exempt Himself,you should know.
“….That the MOST HIGH GOD rules in the kingdom of men,and appoints over it whomever He chooses”…Daniel 5:21.
The first job of a leader is to,protect LIFE,maintain law and order so that we might live in peace and quietness.1Timothy 2:2-3.
Alternative to Obama? when he became governor of Massachusetts many years ago,every bill that came on his desk in support of abortion and same sex marriage he vetoed it.But as you should know 89 percent of the elected members were Democrats,so some of the vetoes were override by them.
Since you are my sister in Christ lets go down memory lane.
If a mother goes to an abortion clinic to kill a baby in her womb,and it so happens that the baby survives the abortion.OBAMA believes that this little baby who is born alive should not be allowed to alive.OBAMA said It would be a “BURDEN” to a mother’s original decision to assess and treat them.He made this statement on April 4 2002 while on the floor debating this very issue as state senator of Illinois.Three times he had the opportunity to vote on this matter,March 30 2001,March 6 2002 and April,and not once he said yes.
August 16 2008 He was asked this ? in Rick Warren church (may be u saw it on TV)
“At what point does a baby gets human right in your view?” here is his ans.
“Answering that question with specificity uh you know is.. is..uh above my pay grade.”
I have plenty to say I did not even touch his position on same sex marriage,which you know is an abomination.
So, is it your position that because I voted for President Obama I am neither Godly nor a Christian?
Amen to that J.J. Well said!
I have been reading some of the comments on here based on this news article, and i see the willy lynch syndrome is alive and well in us blacks. We reject anything black, but worship a white jesus.
If god is a blackman and ask we blacks to believe and worship him most blacks will go straight to hell. We are a sad and doomed race and the whites understand our mentality thats why they enslaved us…
Anonymous you claimed to be a Godly Christi
More “wisdom” from Farrakhan, I see. Never mind the abortions that save mothers’ lives, the abortions in the case of rape victims, the abortions that are necessary because a girl made a mistake and cannot raise a child at that point in time. Yes, we all need to be careful with intercourse, and it’s true that teenagers are having children at an alarming rate. It’s true that both very safe sex and abstinence, depending on your point of view, are good options (though the first, in most cases, is better). But abortions MUST at least be an option, especially in the case of rape.
The Minister has been teaching for over 50 years. Perhaps you should listen more. I believe he has agreed with you in the case of rape and incest, but not as an act of convenience.
Holy and Mighty Farrakan. Though abortion is wrong so is suicide bombings. Wrongs are wrongs. Murder is murder.
When have you ever heard him promote suicide bombings. Some of you eh
Thank God he’s gone.
Louis is the very reason why abortions are necessary option! Who the H is he to tell women what to do? It’s easy to givce advice when you don’t have the responsibility. Women aren’t men slaves. These Dominican men are so loathesome most don’t even take care of their seed yet you want to come here and tell women what they should and shouldn’t do? Why do you go back and speak to your african american population of baby mamas and papas? A woman has every right to get an abortion as she see fit. What about in the case of rape? Should a woman, a child or a wife who has been raped by some dirt bag be forced to keep a child like that? Not my child? Not my sister, not my mother, not any of my female cousins or friends would ever do that. You sickening black men are the very reason why black women resort to this by the way because you never step up and take care of your kids or have the decency to love a woman where you can possible ask her to be your wife. WOmen have your abortions. If there’s a god he gave us the intelligence to create methods and ways to get rid of anything that brings a us distress. Women power!
BTW, The root of abortions is men! Those that abandon the women and those who rape women! If you want to stop women from having abortions first address those good for nothing men roaming this place called earth. I swear men are just one of god’s worse creations. They are an absolute abormination!
You seem to have a lot of anger from personal issues in your life.
This anger and hate towards what Allah has created will eat you up from the inside.
More like abortion is usually the option. If abortion is murder, then so is pulling out/ condoms and other forms of contraceptives. When you pull out possible children of the future are left to dry on your bed… Already the earth full of children doing mischievous things and not learning.. It’s really the person choice to do what is right and to know if they can tend to the needs of the child… but if you can’t deal with it get rid of it.
its your choice no man can tell you what to do.
what is the reason behind this man’s visit?
what purpurse did it serve ?
I hope tax payers money was not wasted on him in one way shape or form.
FED UP…I voted Thumbs Down, for the mere fact that in this time and day. That a woman would spread she legs, engage in the process only to know if she man nah act proper she will abort.
the word was in the “womb”
I have been noticing that a number of young Dominicans are turning toward Islam for solutions to their challenges and disappointments. This seem to be the vogue nowadays. It is almost reminiscent of the days of the hippie, the dreads, the rough tops, etc., etc.. With Islam, there is a dress code which is deeply rooted in the environment of aridity, male dominance and polygyny. But I see local Muslims adorning themselves in clothing which reflects the culture of the east. So, I am at a lost as to why Muslims MUST dress the way they do even in geographical areas like Dominica.
It’s because we prefer the dressing of the prophets than Calvin Klein and these other designers who have gotten rich by us being slaves to designer clothing.
Ah ha! So there is no sacredness in the Muslim dress! It’s all about whose design you wear?
We need to learn to accept the fact that people are different and will have different beliefs – Because you don’t believe in something does not give you the right to inflict your beliefs on some else or crucify them for their beliefs.
Get with the programme – we’re in the 21st century – its ok to educate people but its wrong to inflict your belief on someone else, its also wrong to assume that your belief is golden and your way is the right way. No one has the right to decide what an adult woman or man for that matter should do with her body – no one but her or him!
Tell that to the POPE and your Pastors too. All religions and their zealots have the same high handed approach not just Islam
How can a mother murdering a little baby in her womb and have a heart to say,”I am pro choice?” .No my friend,”THIS IS PRO DEATH”
People are more outrage over Micheal Vick killing dogs over people killing babies.
Last week I heard a man on TY saying “Drilling a hole in the back of a baby in the up to 9 months old,THIS IS PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION.They also use the phrase.EMPTYING THE CONTENTS OF THE WOMB
Oh God Help us
This is so true. Abortion is cruel. To the young ladies protect yourself. Once u are sexually active, protect, protect yrselves. Jollys sell condoms for $1.00. If the guy doesnt want to wear it, insist that he does and put it on for him. Abortion is a crime in the sight of the Lord. Remember it is your body!!!!!
Abortion is murder of a human life. Fullstop. People want to have sex but don’t want to face the consequences. BTW those Dominicans who claim to be godly or Christan and support and voted for Obama, how do u justify you believe and the fact he promotes and advocates, abortion in all forms…partial birth included?
Farakkan is right about this one. Abortion may be legal but it is not safe and has life-long consequences especially for the woman. I know that for a fact.
As a Godly Christian woman, the way I justify supporting and voting for President Obama is the fact that I understand that there is such a thing as separation of church and state. President Obama does not seek to impose his personal beliefs on anyone (which by the way he is entitled to have even if he is the President). He is, however, obligated to ensure that all citizens of his country have certain rights, whether or not we agree with them. And, besides the alternative to President Obama also supported pro choice until he switched sides to accommodate a certain group. So what would you suggest…..not vote?
@ Anon He is when we wants tax payers to pay for abortions through organizations like Planned Parenthood. He is not saying it is only his ‘personal conviction” it is his “political Platform.” He advocates it as Another acceptable procedure for women, perfectly normal. Sex is normal. Abortion is NOT no matter who tries to sell that bag of deceit to you.
Stay faithful to the Word of God my beloved sister in Christ and not to any man whether he is the great Obama himself. Do not be deceived God is not mocked. We cannot keep killing innocent, defenseless babies made in the image of GOD and expect God to reward us and bless us. NO Way. In the meantime women are damaging their wombs and left with both physical and emotional trauma and scars. If a woman wants to destroy her woman then no one can stop her. But She has NO right to destroy/murder another human life in the process. These are the facts. No Myths here. One Love. Let’s continue to pray for each other.
I meant destroy her “womb”
What about if a man rapes a child and she gets pregnant? Is it right that she has to keep that devils spawn inside of her and her parents will then be forced to raise that devils spawn? Take from their money to spend on that devils spawn? You people are so sickening! Women have every right to get an abortion as they see fit!
I agree with citizen but I don’t think anyone wants to use abortion as a form of contraception. No-one is pro-abortion but rather pro-choice meaning a woman has rights to her body. If you want to reduce abortions, make effective contraception freely available: http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/10/04/free-birth-control-access-can-reduce-abortion-rate-by-more-than-half/
When I said as a form of contraception i was being a little indirect – What I meant was sometimes a woman has 3, 4, 5, God knows how man abortions – to me thats is a bit deliberate. Instead of finding preventative measures… they take risks.
Keep your opinions to yourself a woman has the right to choose. Its funny how men always want to tell a woman what to do with her body, sorry Mr. farrakan you are not a woman and even if your religion like all the rest is all about controlling the vagina little by little people are getting wiser to your manipulations. My advice to young people is to have safe responsible sex choose your sexual partners carefully protect yourself. If you get pregnant and it is not the right time for you to have a baby you should have the option to have an abortion.
Each to their own.
Order out of Chaos
It seems like some women dont know how to control
their vaginas that a warning has to be sounded to them..Sex is to be done in wedlock for pleasure and procreation..Then after all the abortions are carried out out of wedlock the womb is too weak to carry a baby during wedlock…Hence miscarriages upon miscarriages… Learn to control your bodies..Abortion is murder..God created humans and placed humans on a higher level than animals so a baby cannot be compared to a chick.
Well-said. Men should not think they have the right to tell women what to do with their bodies, and vice versa. We must have fair discussions from both sides .
@ My take .. if you dont believe in Abortions dont have one but dont presume to make laws to inhibit other people from doing things which are intimate and personal. your opinions and values are your own you should be free to follow them but dont press them on others
Farrakhan is a very knowlegdeable man. But most us would not listen because of his Islam association or Malcolm X assassination.
We don’t have to agree with everything that he has to say.But why fuss, in the end we all get what we deserve, like it or not.
He maybe using the tention between the whiteman and the blackman, Muslim an Jew to attract people to his forum, but we must remember he didn’t start the fire. He is just giving his take on events happening globally, which will enable us to better position ourselves.
If we don’t care for ourselves who is going to do it. Must people don’t even know where Dominica is( Speakng to a Jamaican guy the other day, he never knew Dominica existed). Point is, if this man took his time to come to Dominca to speak. I think he is worth a listen.
I commend Mr Farrakan for coming here and speaking to the issue of Homosexuality and abortion…You would think that certain issues which society wants to be forced down our throats to accept are still condemned as being wrong by some leaders..I applaud you SIR..Young ladies value yourself…Your body is the temple of the holy spirit. We all make mistakes in life…Getting pregnant is not the end of your world. Please keep your baby the consequences will be worst if you abort…
Oh please save that tripe for somebody else! You Dominicans don’t even honr yourselves yet you all want to act like those who make choices that are different from yours are so terrible. You people are so unnerving. Little island people who jump on any silly ideology or misrepresentation as long as it’s from some religious nobody. Farrahkan is a joke in the US and here he is in Dominica addressing young people. I mean some body needs to be fired!
Bwakaieb, keep having your abortions I see that this topic have you bent the hell out of shape. Farrakan is a joke in which US, heffer please sit down if you know not that which you speak of. I live in the US, worked with the state Dept as an intern and I guarantee you Farrakan as controversial as he seem has far more an ear of the US government, it’s people and other religious and civic groups than you could ever dream of achieving. You don’t like what the man say, be that way but stop the lies. When you get to 50 and want kids, or your pam pam start falling on the floor I hope you remind yourself it was your right to choose and stop being so bitter Dominican men/black men are not the reason you are sidelined, blame your loose habits why would any sensible man want to take an idiot like you serious anyways.
@ girl talk
You think you’re an african american don’t you? “Heffa”? hahahahaha Are you certain that you were anywhere close to the state department? The way you speak leaves a lot to be desired.
I guess you’re out there chasing down some man that will keep your “pam pam” from hitting the floor. Let me know how that works for you. Weak and pathetic women like yourself get trampled on and abused because you support men to tear down the very rights of women. Dame mary eugenia charles got to 50 without kids and the last thing she was worried about was men. Have a little ambition besides securing a man. I’ve never wanted kids. Do you think that just because you have a womb you’re suppose to have a child? I guess you’re the type who’s happy being barefoot and pregnant. Good luck to you. BTW, it’s women like you that after being a breeding machine for some pathetic man that need surgery to get your pam pams of the floor!
@girl talk
Louis farraCon is a plague like allen west. If he’s such an influence what has he done for the AA community? heheheeheheh Seriously, you speak as if you know anything besides living in some southern ghetto and trying to speak all “hood rat” like. I guess you fit right in. BTW, stop contradicting yourself. In one note you state that I’m sidelined and then you say that I have loose habits. Which is it do you want argue for? Dominican men and black are a disgrace! It’s not something that I want hesitate to say because they are. Look around DA and those in the diaspora just pretentious little boys. You know the likes of whom you find appealing. poor thing!
What about what he said on Kairi?? Why are you not telling us about that to?
Tell them that again, how they sleep at night after doing it i DONT KNOWWWWWW—- whoa be unto them and those. Put God first before self keep all you babies they are a blessing God will make a way.
How do dominican men sleep at night after getting some woman pregnant then abandoning her? How do you loathesome men stand yourselves? A baby is both the man and woman’s responsibilty yet all these good for nothing Dominican men leave their kids and run away. These women are then stuck raising another set of good for nothing kids! Conintuous cycle of good for nothings. Blacks will never prosper as a group because people like farah CON is a sore on the side of what could have been progress of blacks.
@ bwakwaieb ..A man leave with with a child? well I can see why you are so bitter and no child should have to endure that, but men are men the world over and maybe if you were a little less promiscuous you could take a DNA test, then take him to court. Now you see how that sounds? some unknown person calling you promiscous? well it’s the same way the men of Dominica feel that you take your rage out on ALL MEN. You are a very bitter dengenerate and all your rantings still won’t get you a man
@d/can man & proud.
I think it would be you that’s upset. I don’t want none of you disgraceful, loathesome, good for nothings! If I wanted one of you I would. You all are nothing special! A set of “little’ boys alone that from DA. Take a good look at Dominica and you can see that its biggest problem is the men. You’re another one that such an idiot! You tell me that no man wants me yet here you are suggesting I should take a DNA TEST. Why would I need that? I haven’t let any of you pathetic weaklings impregnate me. If that is the case I will have an immediate abortion. That’s why it’s there because it becomes very useful to stop generating spawns like yourself. hahahahhaha no man want me but yet I’m promiscious. hahahaah See my point. You all to easy . Please come back with a worthy rebuttal.
People needs to chill on this abortion thing – having an abortion is the choice of the mother – you’re better off having a termination than bringing a child into a world where you cannot take care of them – society is already filled with dysfunctional families.
That being said – an abortion should not be used as a form of contraception. Mistakes can happen but if you’re making a habit of it – then I can see why it should be illegal.
If you cannot take care of a child – you should not have one.
It’s murder. I’s not a choice. End of story.
So is killing a chicken. Stay out of our wombs and let us make our own choices.
Yes its a choice – its a choice a woman has to make based on the circumstances in her life at that time. No woman should have that right taken from her … none, no matter her race or religion. I recently read an article where in Ireland a married woman who would have been happy to have a family and perhaps raise it beautifully, died because she was refused an abortion – the baby had died in her – because of the fact that the country’s strict rule makes it illegal – boils down to religion – they are Catholic over there.
Honestly – people should stay out of each others decision unless it directly involves them – let women choose whether they keep their baby or not – its their right.
I also think – if you are pregnant past 12 weeks you should not have an abortion – left it too late! After that point, due to the fetal development, it can be considered Murder.
To those who are saying that abortion is not a choice let me remind you that every decision is based on a choice. You can choose to be the killer of an innocent being or give a child the right to live. However I cant understand why abortion is not seen as taking the life of a being. You have a choice.At the end of the day, its between you and your conscience.
It’s murder? Like you dominicans know anything about putting murderers behind bars. Why don’t you work on those good for nothing men.
Abortion is wrong. We should not condone this, especially when it is performed at 5 months plus. Having an abortion at 4 months plus is no longer abortion, it’s murder. There needs to be sanction against doctors who perform late term murder of a child in a mother’s womb.
Citizan that is why one have to practice safe sex. Hence there will be no need for preforming an abortion. There will be no need for the woman to think she can’t afford to take care of herself and a child. Tell the dam man to put a cap on it until you are ready for motherhood. And besise am sure that the money that is used to perform the abortion and buy baby things. Old ppl say once the mouth slip it must eat. Abortion is WRONG unless used when intented to safe the mother’s life. There is no text in the word of God to support abortion. Ppl let’s live by God’s word and not just by means of suiting out self anf unhealthy life stlyes.
just to let you know that i meant to give you a thumbs down not up
And if you don’t want one, don’t look for one. keep all you damn legs close or if you choose to open it wear your umbrellas, because it does rain heavy. In other words protect you all selves.
If men got pregnant, abortion would be legal everywhere and there would be clinics on every corner.