UWP ‘dual citizenship case’ appeal to be heard this week

From left: Skerrit, Saint Jean, Joseph, Green

The long awaited Court of Appeal battle in the dual citizenship case between Prime Minister Roosevelt Skerrit and his Education Minister Petter Saint Jean and the opposition United Workers Party (UWP), is set for hearing in Dominica on Tuesday November 13, 2012 at the Parliament building in Roseau.

The case is down on the cause list of the Eastern Caribbean Supreme Court(ECSC), which sits in Dominica from November 12-16, 2012. It will be the first sitting in Dominica for newly appointed Chief Justice, Janice Perreira.

In January this year, High Court judge Gertel Thom, rejected petitions by United Workers Party election candidates, Maynard Joseph and Ron Green in which they argued that Prime Minister Roosevelt Skerrit and Education Minister, Petter Saint Jean, were disqualified from being elected because they were in breach of the electoral code, having held French citizenship on nomination day ahead of the 2009 December 18 general election.

Justice Thom, in her ruling, said the petitioners had failed to prove the charges of dual citizenship against Skerrit and Saint Jean.

The judgement stated that both petitions were dismissed because the petitioners had “failed to establish their case”.
“I find that Mr. St Jean was not on nomination day, December 2, 2009 disqualified pursuant to Section 32 (a) of the Constitution of Dominica from being elected as a Member of Parliament,” the judge wrote.

The UWP candidates are stating among their several grounds for appeal that the learned trial Judge “erred in law and came to conclusions which no reasonable judicial officer would come to, and or acted irrationally and/or perversely in making the findings referred to.”

They are also claiming that the Judge was “wrong in failing to find that an inference, however weak, could be drawn or a case to answer had been made out on the basis on the facts referred to either individually or collectively, that the Respondents had each voluntarily acquired or traveled on French passports, and that their failure to give evidence to rebut these inferences strengthened the case against them and permitted the court to conclude that the Appellants had proved their cases.”

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123 Comments

  1. Goose and Gander
    November 13, 2012

    Once again these people who have been talking about integrity are showing no kind of integrity at all. This case should never have been filed. This just shows how these so called people of high morals and integrity can misuse the very constitution which the claim to be defending. When they were sitting in parliament with dual citizenship it was fine. As soon as they lose power instead of working diligently to correct what had become the norm in government they are using it to wriggle their way into power and the best that some of their supporters can do is to say that two wrongs cannot make a right. Such hypocrisy and lack of class!

    • 1979
      November 13, 2012

      “When they were sitting in parliament with dual citizenship it was fine. As soon as they lose power instead of working diligently to correct what had become the norm in government they are using it to wriggle their way into power and the best that some of their supporters can do is to say that two wrongs cannot make a right. Such hypocrisy and lack of class!”

      1 (ONE) who say “WE THE PEOPLE” want UWP back in POWER????????????? my vote will go to those who fear GOD. the man who will say YES! I had french citizenship and I renounced it to serve my country! AND IF THE PEOPLE require that I step down to contest again, then so be it….

      THIS MAN!!!!! will have my vote till I rest in peace in my grave. SIMPLY BECAUSE he did the HONOURABLE thing….. HONOR CANNOT BE BOUGHT!!! IT IS an INNATE QUALITY of men WHO ARE BORN TO LEAD….

      you know something I have learned in my time on earth???????????

      PEOPLE WHO KNOW THEIR OWN DISHONEST SELF, find it hard to trust ANYONE…. they think that EVERYONE is just LIKE THEM….. they are prejudiced simply because they think or rather FEAR that others will ACT JUST LIKE THEM…..

      Have no fear for where GOD is present JUSTICE MUST PREVAIL!

      • 1979
        November 13, 2012

        lollllllllLLLLLLLLLLLL CLASSSSSSSSSS??? BROTHER THAT WORD isn’t to come from the lips of a man who has NO FAITH in others…..

        CLASS becomes POMP in the clutches of a PIG!

        would you say the Pope is Pomp???
        would you say Hitler has class??

        who can you be expected to trust when you can’t even trust yourself?????

      • 1979
        November 13, 2012

        instead of working diligently to correct what had become the norm in government

        the NORM does not equal the provisions of the CONSTITUTION my friend…

  2. Goose and Gander
    November 13, 2012

    My prayers are with you Skerrit and St Jean. What is good for the Goose is also good for the Gander.

    • 1979
      November 13, 2012

      It good for the gander ONLY BECAUSE it suits you!
      wrong is wrong! not matter who does it….ron green is just as worthless to me as skerrit, because they are BIRD OF A FEATHER!!!

      but some of allu stay like saul because that politician is allu meal ticket!

  3. Anonymous
    November 13, 2012

    The characteristics of a “modern” Dominican is the ability to “sewo” and to “beg” Government Ministers for handouts.

  4. non
    November 13, 2012

    Please do not confuse my (((((UTTER DISGUST))))) with Hatred and Jealousy.

    For many, sycophancy is genetically inherited. Thank god this coconut did not fall from that tree.

    when I was a child I acted and spoke like a child, now I am a man, I HAVE PUT AWAY CHILDISH THINGS…

    do the RIGHT my people, so your children can do the same.

  5. roseau valleyous
    November 13, 2012

    same difference

    words mere words

    I shall use different versions of roseau valley

    cause the law is understood very well in my mind

    I and likewise all other mutant mutants roseau valley , i shall exercise that democaratic right prima facie as long as I live.

    Some persons seem to think that they have a caveat on informaion but this cannot be.

    I reserve my right t defend the DLP government as long as I live and no attempt at muzzling me will succeeed. The Passing off approach shall not work. The facts are clear that the government has been working hard at developing the country. Evidence of this does exists in the ROSOVALLEY and thats a fact.

    The unrelenting attacks on me ,callous and niggardly shall only serve one purpose and that is my resolve shall be even stronger.

    I im in the know and truth be told. The Grotto Gate is not being spoken about at all. The courts shall rule and no half baked lawyer will use DNO TO TRY TO MUZZLE THE REAL TRUTH.

    LET JUSTICE BE OUR GUIDE AND ALLOW THE CONSCIENCE OF THE NATION TO LIVE ON.

    GOD BLESS THE ROSEAU VALLEY irrespective of the fact that judicial mutants wull try to push it in the blue column to no avail.

    Read your law and understand it and when this is done with an open mind , not a convoluted one , then much needed wisdom will be attained.

    I SO LOVE ZAR BO KAR

    • ROSEAU VALLEY
      November 13, 2012

      It really does not matter how many permutations, words and/or spellings of Roseau valley that is used, this does not make your contribution correct or clearly understood. Take my unsolicited advice- work on that.

      Let me respectfully applaud your passion for politics and acknowledge your emotional defense of our Parl. Rep and the Labour Party.

      It is always a pleasure when mature and informed minds in our democracy contribute to the debate. This includes the smart ones like you, the difficult ones like the Speaker of the House, and the humble, respectful but admittedly confused ones like me (ROSEAU VALLEY).

      The level of passion that you have displayed is the type that many more should evince with regard to the issues affecting us in the Roseau Valley and by extension the country.

      However, I am afraid that you are wrong on many counts and obviously off topic.

      You would note that the issue under consideration here is the dual citizenship case before the Appeal Court and not the performance of our Parl Rep. nor is it about the Labour Party or what you have called Grotto Gate (By the way what is that?.. an immature, malicious accusation of someone linked to an opposing political party?). Please remain focused and on topic.

      So that we are clear, when the opportunity will soon present itself for debate, could you advise us in a clear and non-convoluted manner of the developments that you speak of in the Roseau Valley?

      According to Tony, very soon after the judgment of the Court of Appeal, fresh elections will be called by Skerrit early in 2013. Therefore, we will have our opportunity to discuss the alleged evidence of development in the Roseau Valley- even though our Parl. Rep will definitely not wish to engage in any such debate.

      Indeed, I agree with you that we ought to let JUSTICE BE OUR GUIDE AND ALLOW THE CONSCIENCE OF THE NATION TO LIVE ON. GOD BLESS THE ROSEAU VALLEY.

      Respectfully
      Roseau Valley

  6. November 13, 2012

    In my opinion, even if Skerritt holds a French passport and doing what needs to be done in Dominica as a DOMINICAN what should it matter. Why remove a man with dual citizenship to replace him with a man with DUAL CITIZENSHIP?

    Maynard, shame on you. What did Roosevelt do to you? Is it party affiliation or jealousy? You should know that you will never be Prime Minister and I do not believe you will be serving as representative, going forward. I would think as a fellow Vieille Case neighbor you would be in SUPPORT of Roosevelt, not assist a watchamacallit to bring him down. Best advice would be to encourage Roosevelt in his endeavors, assist him in bringing the Island to a better future, and maybe, just maybe say “BRO I AM PROUD OF YOU.”

    I feel for you Maynard, but I am equally sorry to say I am not surprised at your attitude and behavior.

    • 1979
      November 13, 2012

      you so focused on personalities you REFUSE to see the big picture….jay-z would say….Im not looking at you, Im looking past you….

      keep thinking this is a skerrit and maynard issue…

      the same broken politics is what you will hand to your children.

      I am sincerely and thoroughly DISGUSTED with ALLLLLL Dominican politicians. Ron green had the opportunity to ammend it, he didn’t, skerrit came and ABUSE IT TOO.

      WHO NEXT?

  7. Francisco Telemaque
    November 12, 2012

    ” Francisco,

    Before responding to this unintelligent comment, you should have noted that this post was not written by the real Roseau Valley that you have come to know on this website.”

    I certainly doubted that the real Roseau Valley would have written that comment.

    In the first place I recognized the imposter by the first word she/he wrote in the first sentence which the person started with a lower case letter. I have never seen ” Roseau Valley ” commenced a sentence with a common letter, that was my clue which made me know the person is a fake.

    Secondly, there are about seven or eight improperly spelt words, maybe more in what the person wrote, which I know not to be typical typing errors; which totally exposed how much an unintelligent the person.

    Example the person wanted to write directed, or direct: they wrote ” dierected.” I thought if that was the true Roseau Valley, meaning no offence; perhaps he was under the influence of something.

    In any event I simply wanted to let the person know that if the appeal court did not find some merit in the case, the court would have rejected it, without considering a hearing on the matter.

    For even in the Caribbean, legal terminologies such frivolous allegations, and law suits are known to the judicial system, and when they find such cases they reject them also.

    After my first statement I got carried away, nonetheless, that is not an indication that I intended to dignify such nonsensical comments.

    Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque

  8. Anonymous
    November 12, 2012

    Some people who comment here really think when they call others name based on what they say or who they support is suppose to hurt another person who comments. It may well do that to people who are sensitive but to me it makes me laugh and maybe others to, I guess that’s what most interesting about DNO, you the people. I see this as a big comedy show and it’s not that DNO intended it to be but you the people, simply because of intolerance, human nature I guess but I’ll continue to watch.

  9. straight case
    November 12, 2012

    The truth must be told. Did Skerritt and St.Jean obtain and possess French passports, of their own freewill, as adults, before the 2009 elections? Yes!!! Did they realize they would not be qualified to contest? Yes!!! That’s why they hurriedly wrote to the French Embassy requesting denounciation of their French citizenship. The correspondences/letters are there to prove.

    Who said, ” No Law, No Constitution could stop him from……….?” So for almost 3 Years, our Nature Isle is being ruled by illegitimate politicians in Parliament.

    A similar situation in Nevis resulted in the courts judging that the parliamentarian illegally occupying the seat in Nevis parliament should vacate his sit. He had allegiance to a foreign country by having a US passport he obtained as an adult. Further, the courts ruled that the cost re. legals fees should be paid by the other party not the person who filed the petition.

    Nevis is part of our jurisdiction, part of the OECS. The Dominica case and Nevis case are dealing with the very same issue, having foreign passports at their own volition, disobedience of the electoral laws. The courts must declare Skerritt and St. Jean illegitmate parliamentarians. Mark my words. Justice delayed for much, much too long. Justice denied ?????? An entire nation is being lynched like in the days of slavery.

    • November 13, 2012

      Is there a difference between Skerritt holding a French passport and Green holding an American passport, regardless to what age they became citizens of the individual countries?

      • drno
        November 13, 2012

        YES the difference is BOTH OF THEM WRONG…
        And no amount of boo hoo will make EITHER of them rightB

        Chaaaaaaaa

  10. 1979
    November 12, 2012

    JEALOUSY???? sorry, I am TOOOOOO blessed, I can’t even see over my mountain of blessings to envy anyone or anything…

    HATE???? maybe, but the only one I can confess to hate is the father of ALLL lIES and DECEIT… who I think those good christians here should be all to familiar with…

    If only some of you knew who I am and HOW WELLLLLLLL OFFF I am… you all teeth would break at the utterance of “jealousy” as my motive…..

    I don’t seek anyones approval. but when my kids ask me daddy who is those MAKAK that sell our heritage for a grain of rice…..

    I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BOLDLY PROCLAIM

    NOT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I hope you will be able to justify your love of party before country and the future of Dominica…

    this is one human being that did not decend from and APE.

    • 1979
      November 12, 2012

      you know what’s striking….. the FACT that even in the face of WISDOM and CONSCIENCE, IGNORANCE still springs from the ears, nose and mouth of some. not to mention the other ofrices. what a damn shame that men who lack CONSCIENCE will even

      LIE TO THEMSELVES!

    • DANZIGER
      November 12, 2012

      Truly take all yr wealth and hang them on a tree. I kw u very well dont try to full anybody, not too long u u said ” month end no salary u need money to feed yr children” and all of a sudden u talk about wealth. I am a lone ranger empty come empty go. YOU BECAME RICH OVER NIGHT be careful all that glitters is not GOLD and dont bost cause the first shall be the LAST. Lust ranger go and clean your troubled heart.

      • drno
        November 13, 2012

        LOL that burn u wi!! The difference is I work HARD for my BLESSINGS. It was NO political FAVOUR tan.

        Still I rise

        Then people like u will talk about jealousy

        Good one!

      • 1979
        November 13, 2012

        well my friend, If you know me CALL ME BY MY NAME!

        ” month end no salary u need money to feed yr children” YES!!!!!!! because the same “GOVERNMENT” you praising REFUUUUUUUUUSSSSE to pay the PWC for works completed!!!!!!!!!! so they can continue to shovel money to dependents like you!!!

        If I work hard you bet your SAA I expect HARD PAY!

        it seems my ranting did have an effect because ministers stop come here for FREE TARISH DOE!

        and money coming on TIME those days….

        so talk about rich overnight! WELL you know who ELSEEEEEEEEE became rich overnight???????? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm in your own words

        WHAT GOOD FOR THE GOOSE GOOD FOR THE GANDER…

        go suck salt and take it with a smile!!

        don’t let my success patay you a terre!

  11. boom@!
    November 12, 2012

    Roseau Valley and 1979 seem to wait on these headlines..to show off their intelligence or lack thereof! go n get work to do!leh ban sot!allu answering allu own selves and patting each other on the back! for every comment that was written there are over a 100 slaps in y’all faces! stop burdening ppl with allu repetitive nonsense

    • him
      November 12, 2012

      Hope you are a little smarter after reading their comments. They done seem to be people grovelling to the AM PM m,man., so they can write what’s on their mind and what their convictions are.
      When the head is sick the entire body is also sick.

    • 1979
      November 12, 2012

      LOL it’s said that notoriety comes with acclaim….

      why thank you my friend for acknowledging my humble submission. it apparently had enough IMPACT to evoke a response from you, as devoid of substance as your comment is, It is still welcomed….

      8) have a good one and don’t allow my HUMBLE opinion to suffocate you….

      HAHAHAHAHAH mwwahhhh

      • DANZIGER
        November 13, 2012

        I will not make a show on DNO and expose my blessing even if I have or not. You are the only person in DOMINICA that is blessed praise god for u and I HOPE THAT U WILL STAY BLESS ALL YR LIFE. yOUR PROBLEM IS U SEE LATE. One thing I want u to kw I dont work for goverment I have my enterprise right under yr noise so stop braying yr blessings on DNO. I AM MY BOSS I open and close when I FEEL LIKE NO WEEP TO BIT ME, I PAY MY TAXE IM a born DOMINICAN KNOW YR PLACE. I dont go to red clinic and I wont ask goverment for their job because I can maintain my self I have love for my COUNTRY. Thats why I wont ask goverment for their work because I am self EMPLOYED. I leave it for someone eles cause all shall eat. Thats what I want u to KW I REFUSE TO answere u on blessings. Next time I will put my real identity on DNO so u will close yr huge mouth on ppl a while. Continue to preach yr gospel on the blogg until jourovert morning.

      • DANZIGER
        November 13, 2012

        NO he did not shovel money to dependent ppl like me.No yr blessings did not burn me. No I WILL NOT SUCK SALT. No yr success will never patay me a terre hope u stay bless all yr life.

      • 1979
        November 14, 2012

        well THANK you!

      • 1979
        November 14, 2012

        LOL I not taking out mapui with you nuh BOSS…. you yet to make a rebuttal to anything I put forward…. you tried to get PERSONAL with me, and you bit off MORE than you could chew HUH??? I wish you All the best my fellow man….

        Sincerely
        1979

    • 1979
      November 12, 2012

      I don’t give a rats rectum what party you from, If eddison james is found wanting audit him and garnish what need to garnish!!!!!!!!

      that is that differs ME from YOU!! I am loyal

      ONLY TO DOMINICA! I am more loyal to YOU ,my fellow country man, than you are to your OWN DAMN SELF!

      what a CRYYYYING shame on your part

  12. Mamizoo
    November 12, 2012

    Where everybody is signed sealed and delivered don’t expect justice; whatever that is. DNO both sides have their wn definition of justice . I have come to experience that Everything has its price and everything is for sale , man and woman too. I also well understand that nothing last forever and so even underground operation eventually become at grade operation.

    ” I know what I know and said what I said , it’s the way that things go , it’s a thing that I keep in the back of my head” ( Paul Simon Graceland album) . What if I say I heard it to the grape vine . I know Lucians that know Dominicans that know Grenadians.
    The distance that lance Amstrong went just to win and suppress the truth is truly a testament of the ugliness of mankind. Don’t think for one moment that there are not many Lance Amstrongs in Dominica. Amstrong’s operation infiltrated lab results, judges, officials of the tour De France, Spain London etc.
    Since nothing last forever and Amstrong is also a testament of the stubbornness of truth and the longevity thereof.

    No name no warrant . Just decipher the clues to the holy grail of deception, greed, and great injustice.

  13. Roseau
    November 12, 2012

    It s time for Skerrit and St.Jean to give-up there seats. They were put there illegally and now it time to respect the constitution.

  14. zorrrrrrriiiiiiiii
    November 12, 2012

    Right now, those in power are running out of ideaS IN TERMS OF pushin the country forward! The Government says all is well when in truth and in fact they are speaking always in opposites!

    Pressure is building in the country and actuallly looking around nothing is happening. All these guys in government doing is to live n run a country on grants and more grants. Nothing, absolutely nothing is being done to strenghten the economy. Actually, they guys in the government bit more than they could chew. Right now they are running out of ideas and some day folks willl come to realise welll enough is enough. look at the way freedom party ran things for years and everyone was freedom freedom, and anything besides freedom was a curse word. Now follow history, history has a tendancy to repeat itself……
    Parties including the opposition must find new ways of inspiring and motivating the people. Actually folks look demoralise and demotivated, so they neeed a new kind of politics not they type we are seeeing right nowwwwwwwww. The spoon feeding politics and devide and rule schemes are archaic. De opposition, need not go the route they are going, they neeed to find a new way of giving hope to the hopeless, courage to the weak and a sense of pride to the lost. Radio political banters dont win votes. People need action, and action, that can brionggggg money in their pockets and jobs, bettr education, honesty, integrity, and what realllly make a nation great!
    De government has been in campaigning mode for toooo tooo long. And the opposition has beeeen in sleeping mode for tooo long. Democracy dictates that the opposition no matter small, go in the house and discuss issues and so forth- without fear and favour. Ask questions and demand answers! This is the wayyy,forward, not lingering with court matters and so fortthhhhhh………… buildddd a strong front, brick by brickkkkk

  15. BZ,
    November 12, 2012

    You know the man all your live as a teacher ,whats worng with you MJ! you make us your pass student shame of you.No more cegarret free in shop .

  16. Pondera
    November 12, 2012

    Wow!! There is wisdom in the confusion. I would like to see this matter go to the privy counsel so it can benifit from the entire legal circus. The lessons learnt from this will be instructive to all. Somebody will benifit from the political fall out.

    • Realist
      November 12, 2012

      @ Pondera,

      By law, election petitions cannot go further than the eastern Caribbean court of appeal. That is why the incumbents are so coincident. If it could go to the privy council the pm and cohorts would have already side step the matter and call a new election or something.

  17. November 12, 2012

    CALLING ON ALL GOD FEARING DOMINICANS TO PRAY AND FAST FOR JUSTICE IN THIS COUNTRY.

  18. ASSUASS
    November 12, 2012

    that thing doh finish yet stupesssss all you dig that up again awa wiii

  19. Anonymous
    November 12, 2012

    They make sure they put nice pics of the DLP men but horrible ones of the UWP ones. Brainwashing people. Never surprises me anymore. Sure you won’t post.

  20. Humility
    November 12, 2012

    I find this whole dual citizenship argument confusing. Someone can gain citizenship through their parents; live all their life in a foreign country, they maintain the right to become Prime Minister of Dominica.
    If someone else although spending most of their life working and contributing to the development of Dominica, cannot become Prime Minister. This does not make any sense at all. There must be some other criteria.
    And a question. What happens in the case where past Parliamentarians had dual citizenship?

    • Legal Practicioner
      November 12, 2012

      @ Humility

      As silly as this rule may appear to you, it forms part of Dominica’s constitution. Skeritt and crew has had enough time to amend the constitution, yet they did not. So as long as it remains on the books they have the responsibility to respect and adhere to the law. You cant have it both ways.

      This ruling is only evoked via an election petition. So past parl reps who served without being challenged can’t be prosecuted.

  21. Anonymous
    November 12, 2012

    the Taiwanese gave MJ a few high breed pigs as minister of Agric. now he finish eat them but he has no rank so maybe he want to come back in office to see what the ching chong will give him.

    • Another UWP Clown
      November 12, 2012

      It seems he shared some of the pork with Roseau Valley and his blind uwp and matt in the morning

      • Mamizoo
        November 12, 2012

        Any more grazing space on the rest of the cow frame or would MJ Have to go through ppi joe to enjoy the cheese, and milk

    • Choice - X
      November 12, 2012

      Could you stick to the topic and stop getting personal with the petitioners. It speaks to some severe rational limitations on your part.

      • Tri-Sate Beauty
        November 13, 2012

        @Choice-X and that my dear is the saddest part of it. Dominicans either willfully or maliciously lack the capability of discussing issues of national importance from a credible and intelligent standpoint, therefore they resort to personalities and warmongering. I honestly believed that given all the strides in education over the last decades we would be able to delve into subjects as mature, responsible individuals each one walking away with an awareness not necessarily a persuasion. For me this is not a case merely about Skerrit and St Jean but a case setting precedence on the Constitution, its’ stregnth and Nationalism.

      • 1979
        November 13, 2012

        Beautifully put my dear, but sadly the crux will me over read by most.

  22. Anonymous
    November 12, 2012

    i am interested in knowing when the first passport was issued.

  23. waypapa
    November 12, 2012

    Its jus sad to really see hw our ppl think. We have to stop that party thing. Its wrong for wat Skerrit n st.jean did.wat if it wz on the odr side. We hv to stop being bias.N its time dat these leaders realize that is not a family estate they’re running.Bsidz that duel citizenship story……. Its time that they start to make an example on these political leaders. Let justice prevail.

  24. God is Good
    November 12, 2012

    VIVA Skerrit and St. Jean. Prayers conquers all.

  25. Marcus Hill
    November 12, 2012

    A A DNO, I din’t know that UWP was a citizen of the Commonwealth of Dominica farless to have dual citizenship!!

    “UWP Dual citizenship case” reads your headline. May “Skerrit and St.Jean Dual Citizenship…” would have been more appropriate.

    Admin: Point taken. it could have been more clearly stated but it’s supposed to read UWP “dual citizenship case” APPEAL………

  26. voire dire
    November 12, 2012

    “No law,no judge,no magistrate not even the constitution can prevent me from…”none of your damn business”go to hell(3x)..”dominicans are too free”…dont worry dominicans you all will be haunted by these pronouncements!!!just a matter of time…what you expect the drug dealers and murderers to say in defence of their criminal activities when Roosevelt makes such daring statements in support of his alleged crimes!?Masterville Labad would say,”Time will tell”.

  27. bee
    November 12, 2012

    Frankly speaking Maynard will jump high and jump
    low they dont want him in Vieile Case he had his
    chance and he blew it. He distance himself from
    the people when he was representing them why can’t
    wait for next election to see if the people will
    have a change of heart.

    • *
      November 12, 2012

      @ bee.. Your labour clown/ dunce, it is not a matter of wanting the person or not wanting the person. SOT! It is what the law says. The same constitution your God the AM PM man said cannot stop him there. There should be a jail term as part of the punishment, if they are found guilty. We need law abiding leaders in this failed country.

  28. Dvt
    November 12, 2012

    As usual the Unsatisfactory Worthless Party continues to show how unfit they are to govern or even oppose. They have made fools of themselves by boycotting, they have made fools of themselves going to court. When will they learn that you cannot do the same thing over and over again expecting different results. The people have rejected you three elections in a row. In fact every election you lose more and more seats. You have returned to Edison James and say what you want people just do not like Edison James. When Dominicans do not like you that is just how it is. There is a greater chance of the Freedom Party being revived that the UWP every walking the halls of government again unless they make some radical changes, take ten solid years to rebuild and then maybe they can offer some competition.

    • 1979
      November 12, 2012

      “When will they learn that you cannot do the same thing over and over again expecting different results”

      it was wrong for ron green
      it was wrong for skerrit
      it will be wrong for allllllllllllllllllllllllllllll those who follow…..

      THAT IS THE G.D POINT…..

      WHEN WILL THE SHROUD OF IIIIIGGGGGGGGGNORANCE BE LIFTED AND TRUE VISION COME FORTH.

      i dont care where it comes from but ignorance MUST be STAMPED OUT of politics in DOMINICA….

      every election a bunch of highschool drop outs who can hardly read a book bawling laboo laboo.

      not realizing that these politicians use their own deficiency against them

      god, get a clue and ELEVATE people.

  29. ROSEAU VALLEY
    November 12, 2012

    Admin DNO,

    Imitation, they say, is the best form of flattery. Whereas I am happy that some individuals are of the view that in order to have their comments read, they must post their views using the name Roseau Valley, it is certainly not “Kosher” to misrepresent the view of ROSEAU VALLEY on this website or any other website simply by typing the name Roseau Valley.

    Your readers should note that over the last few days, someone or some people have been using the name Roseau Valley claiming to be me. The views expressed in some posts below are NOT that of Roseau Valley. The views of Roseau Valley on this matter have been well documented in several published articles including the following:

    http://www.thedominican.net/2012/07/the-judgement-of-gertel-thom.html

    http://thedominican.net/2012/09/the-judgement-of-gertel-thom-five.html

    http://www.thedominican.net/2012/07/the-judgement-of-gertel-thom-two.html

    http://thedominican.net/2012/08/the-judgement-of-gertel-thom-three.html

    http://www.thedominican.net/2012/10/comments-on-judgement-of-thom.html

    http://www.thedominican.net/2012/10/cost-of-delays-in-justice-system.html

    Respectfully
    Roseau Valley

    • Another UWP Clown
      November 12, 2012

      Alas Roseau in the Valley…you are out of your realm and the uwp has played a switcheroo on you boi.

      This is not about constitution, its about the uwp staying relevant. Haven’t you noticed that….even Matt in the Morning knows thaat….lol

      • ROSEAU VALLEY
        November 12, 2012

        Thank you Clown. I recognize your right to be stupid and to advertize it to the world.

        Respectfully
        Roseau valley

      • 1979
        November 12, 2012

        JACK saa while you there laughing at your neighbour the voleh climb out of your window and even ask u “excuse me please” while he getting away….

        those who accuse others of HATE are so blinded by hate themselves, they can’t even see what happening to them.

  30. DA USA
    November 12, 2012

    The Prime Minister has been in office for a long time. Once he is doing a good job leave him alone.
    Those who have only Dominica citizenship alone, can they do a better job than him, if they can, well take him out. If the cannot, leave him alone and stop waisting monies in court that we don’t have. I the US the two parties fight,but at the end of the road, the come together to build the USA. Dominica, we must pick our battles. I come to Dominica every year and I’m seeing improvements. If we cannot do better don’t pick on the Prime Minister. What ever he brings to Dominica stays in Dominica. Once he is doing everything legal, let him stay. All of us are human beings and we cannot do everything perfect.
    Those without sin, first cast a stone. The only perfect person is the creator of the Universe, who is “The Lord God Almighty.” Lets Build each other where we are weak. Please for God’s sake we are too small to have all these ‘Fuss and Fight.

    • 1979
      November 12, 2012

      I going to label all Dominicans abroad who come here and discredit PEOPLE LIVING HERE as “flier flys”.

      you come here for a little stint and figure you know something….BOY

      THEN WE WONDER WHY SOME PEOPLE WHO LEAVE places like JAMAICA are not welcomed back home…..

      can you understand why?????????????? BOSS if you know what good for you..

      let the CHEF cook the food in the kitchen and you just sit at your well laid out table and

      HUSH UR SASSSSSSSSSSSSSS

    • Choice - X
      November 12, 2012

      If your reasoning is correct, then there is no need for a constitution. It should be thrown out of the window, since your “leader” is working well.
      Comments like that will only come from one Caribbean country(Dominica). Not even Haiti with its abject poverty will you find unpatriotic people like you who put leade4rs before country

  31. Anonymous
    November 12, 2012

    Fact remains that the UWP failed to prove their case, as they lacked the necessary and required pieces of evidence. Bearing in mind that fact that any defendant or respondent is not required to and can’t be forced to say anything. The Prime Minister, had nothing to say other than to rebut where the need arose. One’s silence cannot and should never be deemed as guilt.

    Why are they asking for the judge to draw inferences to guilt?

    Now with an appeal, the appeal judges will now dissect the rather weak evidence presented by the UWP and its legal team and further investigate to see if at all the presiding judge erred in her judgement of the evidence presented. My guess is as good as yours.

  32. when they lose
    November 11, 2012

    cannot wait to hear ANGELLLO LO n MATT and chief sor sort ( the one with all the high english, non dominican accent, no qualification, no degree but a big head and long mouth etc ) launch a big attack on that very court they are seeking some redress from.

    The people are awaiting the verdict lol i so reddddy for another big DLP MEETING IN ROSO for us to take our foot…so if UWPWEE want to give us reason to celebrate in Da well I in it.

    WIN LOSE OR DRAW WE WIN ALREADY !!!!!!

    GIVE TRINI AN OTHER LAWYERS FREE MONEY and then say dominica broakes

    oh chupes man

    SALISBURY I FROM
    A SKERRO BAWILABOURITE

    PS WHY EARL NOT COMINING DOWN AND RUN FOR US NUH

    SKEEERO CALL EARL WILLIAMS

    • GET PATRIOTIC
      November 12, 2012

      The only “they” that can lose is the people and country of Dominica. The politicians are only passing through, but the people and country remains forever. When you undermine the constitution you are literally weakening the foundations of nationhood. You will never find an American rejoicing / or encouraging that the constitution be disrespected or trampled.

      “It’s only a SICK bird that FOULS its own nest”

  33. guen
    November 11, 2012

    Are saying Justice JP may have little to no cojones hemophrodites business?

  34. Tutunee
    November 11, 2012

    Gaspiyae tan evek largent,, hmmmm

  35. Jenny
    November 11, 2012

    uwp just wasting time. All the time Ron Green was in parliament for how many terms and he was an American citizen, what is good for the goose is good for gander. He should have been honest from the beginning he was elected, if he had done so or if his cousin had advised him, this would not be going on now.

  36. watch dog
    November 11, 2012

    Dominica will never go forward, the politiontions are uneducated, have no vision. How one can explain to me that members of the UWP said so much about this government, and today they are part of it. How loyal will they be. crazy Tee is another that said so much about the government to day he is one of the biggest fans. Wake up people. But again if you are uneducated then its difficult to get through you. This is why the government is stagnant and the country on a whole. Do you all see republicans being part of the democratic government. hah ha ha

    No instead to invest time in moving forward their concerns are about dual citizenship please. will that help the country. why not use the dual citizenshp to travel out of the country and find investers.

  37. November 11, 2012

    As a supporter of the UWP, not because I support their margie, but rather because the Skerrit led DLP is terribly bad and too corrupt; however, the UWP has made another terrible mistake by appealing this case. What do they expect the ECSC to do them? Do they expect them to reverse justice Thom’s verdict even if it was blatantly poor? Furthermore do they really expect the fallen Mj to become the palrep of the Vielle-case? MJ is not ms. Belony and even if the ECSC were to rule against the government, there is no way the people from the Vielle-case constituency would accept MJ. Not even UWPites like myself!
    UWP must stop wasting money and start to prepare for the next election. If they really want to touch Skerrit, MJ is definitely not going to be that person and therefore they should invest in someone that might be able to put some dents in the DLP and Skerrit. Stop being fools guys! You are just getting people including your supporters to turn away from you.

  38. Another UWP Clown
    November 11, 2012

    But how does Maynard expect to replace Skerrit…where, how, when, what, which…All you not seeing uwp mad

    • _________________
      November 11, 2012

      You are not only sounding like a Skerrit beggar man or door mat, but you are also showing many that you need to go to school.The court will decide what happens not Maynard. Take that and go to the Red clinic on you knees with it.

    • Anonymous
      November 11, 2012

      If UWP mad, you stupid. How about that.

    • ROSEAU VALLEY
      November 12, 2012

      You are another Labour Clown –why are you so ashamed of that. Your anti-uwp propaganda is disgusting, lack good taste and filled with ignorance. What makes you think that the case is about replacing Skerrit with anyone else?

      Please seek to broaden your undeveloped sense of reasoning to appreciate the fact that this is not a case of the UWP against Skerrit but is a matter constitutional importance.

      Saying that you are another UWP clown is an oxymoron as all the clowns in the political arena in Dominica reside in the ruling party. It takes a clown to identify another clown.

      Respectfully
      Roseau Valley

      • boom@!
        November 12, 2012

        well u take education! it didnt have for anyone else!

        respectfully
        u are a fool!

    • November 13, 2012

      Maynard will never replace anyone. He had his chance to represent and he did it POORLY. Maynard is just TALK. That MOUTH is only BIG on his person.

  39. Another UWP Clown
    November 11, 2012

    The UWP has lost all sense of reasoning…why they repeating the same mistakes.

    From what I see DLP is not going to lose this one and is only going to Strengthen Skerrit.

    Just as Obama, the people see he is trying really hard and all you have is a bunch of idiots (republican/uwp) trying to derail progress.

    UWP…Here is an advice…the issue is not skerrit but yours…The electorate does not like except a cupful of Q and DNO

    • *
      November 11, 2012

      I think what you have written is worse than what a clown would have written…You seem to one of Skerrits puppets who sees only red. POOR YOU!

      • Anonymous
        November 12, 2012

        Many people use the word “clown” trying to mean “a fool” but i wonder how many people understand that a clown is not a fool but rather intelligent, since you have to pay them to do acts for you. One would have to be clever to craft something funny or even stupid and then to even have others pay for it, I sometimes wonder who is the fool.

    • November 11, 2012

      you stupid you know the truth and tampering with the truth. sicking you just like skerrit.

    • ROSEAU VALLEY
      November 12, 2012

      Fine- good for you – the Labour Party and Rooselvelt Skerrit will win all future electios inDominica. Great , Hooray!!!!

      Let’s await the judgment of the OECS Supreme Court after the matter is heard on 13 November 2012. In the meantime, please understand that this is not about the UWP- Clown!

      Respectfully
      Roseau Valley

    • va resident
      November 12, 2012

      The significant difference here is that President Obama is very transparent and truthful in his promises to all of the people all the time. Prime Minister Skerrit is the direct opposite, he must forget about the RED CLINIC and demonstrate interest in all dominicans.

    • Lougaoo Mem
      November 12, 2012

      He who knows not and knows not that he knows not, is a FOOL, shun him. Sorry! That also makes you a “RED” clown

    • November 13, 2012

      There is NO COMPARISON between OBAMA and SKERRITT.

  40. 1979
    November 11, 2012

    dont do let me do HUH???

    the point is ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
    “parties” doing it are WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    TILL the MONGOLS of Dominica get the point that two WRONGS caaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnoootttt make a right, I reserve the right to call ALL Dominicans

    SOT beyond ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL COMPREHENSION!!!!!!!!!!

    • 1979
      November 11, 2012

      and with that I rest my case, without self incrimination. 8)

    • smoke screen
      November 11, 2012

      And you are the biggest SOT there ever was!!!!!!

      • 1979
        November 12, 2012

        awww did the cap fit you???

        well…boo hoo!

    • November 13, 2012

      Ha, Ha, got that right.

  41. Charles cousin
    November 11, 2012

    roseau valley

    I concur

    • ROSEAU VALLEY
      November 12, 2012

      Don’t be misled by those who seek to misrepresent the views of ROSEAU VALLEY.

      The views with which you have concurred are not that of Roseau Valley. They are that of a lazy, coward, dishonest fraudster whodeliberately wishes to distort my views and to pass off as Roseau Valley. I have noticed that in recent times a number of persons are doing the same.

      Respectfully
      Roseau Valley

  42. roseau Valley
    November 11, 2012

    LET me state from the onset that this case has already suffered a still born experience and there seems to be no legal basis for taking it to the Oecs Supreme Court.

    regrettably am still a supporter of the UWP which seem to be head less and does not attract the youths and women of this republic. I am of the fervent view that the continuous media bashing of the givernment must stop. I do understand that democracy commands bring up reasoble issues of fact but its direct abuse ,eans the exact opposite. Every legal mind that I have consulted on this case speaks of it : going no where “. This is the reality and no degree of political acrobatism via the media and elsewhere wil make a difference in this matter.
    The So called UWP LEGAL FUND is nothing but a farse some smoke screen dierected at political propaganda; hence giving their party false hope. The leadership of the party , of which am still a potential card bearer knows that its inconceiveble that such an appeal can be won. The court is highly respectable and its arguably one of the more independent and highly favoured and skilled court in the British Commonwealth. One just have to go unto the UK PRIVY COUNCIL webpage to get some reviews on cases from our jurisiction which has gone to there over the past 20 or so years. Chief Justice ( Ag )Perriera and our own Justice of Appeal Baptiste and whosoever may sit on this case , no matter what combination, including or excluding those named, the soundness of its judgment will never ever be in doubt. This is a brave and powerful and intelligently wise court. It belives and practices justice .

    • ?
      November 11, 2012

      If that is the real Roseau Valley man/woman,it’s unprecedented that i could spot so many typographical errors in this blogg. WOW! UNUSUAL !

      • ROSEAU VALLEY
        November 12, 2012

        Please note that this is NOT the views of Roseau Valley. The dishonourable person who writes under the name “Another UWP Clown” and “Peeping Tom” has used the name “roseau Valley” to present an unintelligent commentary.

        Lesson to be learnt: Be careful what you read and trust nothing on the internet unless you can authenticate the source.

        Respectfully
        Roseau Valley

    • Francisco Telemaque
      November 11, 2012

      You know there might be a legal basics, if there wasn’t the appeal court would have rejected it, and it would not appear on the docket for Tuesday!

      With that said, I think that the part of the constitution which makes it difficult for citizens of Dominica with dual citizenship to hold political office should simply be abolished; making it easy and simple for every Dominica born to return home anytime during election season, and contest the election if we so desire.

      I will take it even further, and say the children of Dominica parentage born in any foreign country should be given the opportunity, and privilege to serve politically in our county if they wish to do so!

      After all we have them representing us in the international Olympics, so why not politics?

      One who is born to Irish parents, outside of Ireland are allowed to go to Ireland and participate into politics, even becoming prime minister. France has given the same opportunity, and privilege to the children of French citizens born out of France.

      Look at it this way John McCain was not born in America, the man is Panamanian born, however, it is in the American constitution that if a child is born to any American parent whiles in service to the United States, in any country of the World it is the same as if they were born in the United States of America.

      Thus, all the children of the Americans which were born in Antigua, Barbados, Guyana, and Cuba, on the Base which they the American government operated there are treated as American born with no exceptions.

      We need to dismantle our nations constitution which is fashioned after the colonial master system; it is time we change our constitution in order to remove the burdensome yoke it hangs around our people’s neck.

      Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque

      • ROSEAU VALLEY
        November 12, 2012

        Francisco,

        Before responding to this unintelligent comment, you should have noted that this post was not written by the real Roseau Valley that you have come to know on this website.

        Lesson learnt: Be careful with what you read on the internet. There are many imposters. Trust no one unless you can authenticate the source.

        I regret that some people have resorted to such disgusting tactics in Dominica in defeating the voice of truth.

        The views of Roseau Valley on this matter have been published in a series of articles on …………entitled, “The judgment of Gertel Thom and the need for expeditious and successful appeal: By Roseau Valley”. You can simply google the articles.

        Respectfully
        Roseau Valley

      • Hang man
        November 12, 2012

        Francisco if they change the rule I would recommend that they close down the 405 just to get you to LAX on a flight to Dominica so you could contest the Wesely area and boot thee useless parl rep out.

      • November 13, 2012

        I do not know the education minister, but I know Skerritt. Skerritt’s mother was born in Guadeloupe, Skerritt himself was born in Dominica. You are right when you say regardless to where a child is born if their parents are Americans that child is automatically an American citizen. FYI they do not have to be on base. That is not Skerritt’s case. My son was born in America (both parents are Dominicans) he is NOT a Dominican, he is an American. Do you think he should automatically be a Dominican citizen just like the children of American citizens born in countries other than America?

    • YAm Babawoolais
      November 11, 2012

      You really didn’t do a good job imitating Roseau Valley. One thing for sure Roseau Valley never post that much spelling errors. Also Roseau Valley never ever keep repeating or reaffirming his membership with the UWP. Definitely not the quality of the really Roseau Valley

      • ROSEAU VALLEY
        November 12, 2012

        Thank you for your due diligence. Glad you noticed. Deeply appreciate your prompt reaction and implicit compliment.

        Respectfully
        Roseau Valley

    • L.I.A.R
      November 11, 2012

      With all due respect, this post is NOT from the real ROSEAU VALLEY.

      No disrespect

    • UWP Supporter
      November 12, 2012

      I support you fully.

    • ROSEAU VALLEY
      November 12, 2012
    • Papa Dom
      November 12, 2012

      Was that sarcasm ? because if it isn’t then you really don’t understand the issues and the legal minds which you have consulted sadly are not very bright at all.

      • ROSEAU VALLEY
        November 12, 2012

        No Papa Dom. This was no attempt at sarcasm.

        This was a bunch of baloney, a display of ignorance and a deliberate misrepresentation of the views of Roseau Valley on the issue. With all due respect to the author, it was a lousy attempt to pass off as Roseau valley.

        As it turned out, the readers to DNO recognized that for what it was. Disgusting! This is an example of type of desperation that we are beginning to tolerate in Dominica.

        Check out my views on the matter as published on TheDominican.net: “The judgment of Gertel Thom and the need for expeditious and successful appeal: By Roseau Valley”. You can simply google the articles.

        Respectfully
        Roseau Valley

    • Hang man
      November 12, 2012

      What an idiot – it is like comparing The Back Berry to the Chinese Black Borry. No resemblance Rosea Valey no need to post those links every body recognized the Woolf in Red clothing.

    • Tony Astrafan
      November 12, 2012

      Roseau Valley the person is such an idiot that the fool did not even realize that the signature/ handle is always written in caps. So peeping Tom try this next time ROSEAU VALLEY

  43. DANZIGER
    November 11, 2012

    Dont do it and let me do it case,captain clean yr heart and ask a question. Im I right? dear lord forgive

    • 1979
      November 11, 2012

      forgive Dominicans for putting their party before the very constitution that preserves their fundamental rights and liberties…

      for man shalt not have no other god before the almighty.

      forgive them father.

      • radics
        November 12, 2012

        yes…you are so smart..IDIOT…all you all do is bring down your own people…foooolish.

      • 1979
        November 12, 2012

        your statement is redundant because someone cannot bring down someone who is bringing down themselves.

        how low can you go??

  44. ....................
    November 11, 2012

    I pray that justice prevails, and the guilty party will be severely punished.

    • 1979
      November 11, 2012

      history will punish all of us.
      because men will see that we have no esteem or regard for our constitution and the trend will be set for more and more of our leaders to trample on us and we can “go to hell” for washing these sacred provisions in the gutter.

      only a fool thinks that freedom is free.

      • DANZIGER
        November 11, 2012

        JEALOUSY, pa ni remede nous toe hippocrite. fo nous montrée vraie identité a nous un fois pour toute. Use the bible at all time those so called blog preachers. Im I a sinner? or a so called SAINT. In my inner man I am a HATER of my own brother.

      • 1979
        November 12, 2012

        the only thing i hate is that father of all LIES, who is termed as “lucifer” am I the one LYING????

        tell me where I lie….

      • DANZIGER
        November 12, 2012

        High priest dress in MC clothing continue to preach until jourvet morning. Baguy chaud, chaud, chaud.

  45. Domino
    November 11, 2012

    Por favor.
    I am from Santo Domingo. You have allowed me to reside and make noise in Dominica. Now I would like to return you the favour so that you can acquire a Spanish a spanish passport. We can go to California and have a gay marriage. If you cannot make up your mind; then pass the invitation to AA.

  46. Tourism Junkee
    November 11, 2012

    Such news make Dominica appear to be truly a Joke in the yes of the world.

    • Jean -Paul
      November 11, 2012

      are you french speaking? yeux you wanted to write U wrote yes for eyes it may have been yeux lol

  47. November 11, 2012

    I wish to predict that Skerrit and St. Jean will win their cases,because no judge in Caricum has the cricket balls to remove a Prime Minister in particular from office unless he had commited murder.

    • Mamizoo
      November 11, 2012

      I agree with you . All these judges are political appointees one way or another and they all act within the black robe of silence. It would be naive to think that there isn’t an underground network that someway gets to the judges through political magic and the money of politicians.
      To the UWP fellas I say ” don’t hold your breath” that was my prediction on the first and so shall it be the second time around.
      SKERRIT and Tony must remain in control by any means necessary. The same as preventing Iran from having nuclear weapons. To much at risk.

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