COMMENTARY: Is the voice of the people really the voice of God?

CommentaryIt is with great honor and humility and reverence  for God, that I write as a servant of God to address,  a statement made in an article on DNO news , on the 9th of December 2014. The statement read, ” the people have spoken and the voice of the people is the voice of God.

I want to state clearly that, while the first part of the statement may be true the second however, “the voice of the people is the voice of God” is absolutely incorrect and non scriptural. This is a statement that I have heard many times from my youth, and has been used by the devil to cunningly deceive people into believing that what is popular is of God.

I would like to draw your attention to a passage in Matthew 7: 13 and 14, which states “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:”

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

In verse 21 it reads ” not everyone that saith unto me Lord, Lord shall enter into the kingdom…, emphasizing the point that not everyone who claims to be a Christian is speaking for or on behalf of God. Additionally because of the times in which we live, where people have adopted so many other things and people as their god other than the one true and only God Almighty, we can’t take it for granted that we all mean the same thing when we say “God.”

In the book of 1 Samuel 8:5-22, there is a wonderful story of the children of Israel, God’s chosen people who wanted a king at all costs. They came to the man of God named Samuel and told him they wanted a king, he spoke to God, and God told him His mind to speak to the people but they refused to listen. They said they wanted a king like all the other nations and that certainly was not God’s voice or even his mind because he revealed his mind to the king to speak to them but yet still they rebelled. In verse 18 and 19 he told them how wicked the king would be, how he would enslave them and abuse them and that they would cry out to God because of the wickedness of the king but God would not hear them. Nevertheless they refuse to obey Gods voice through his servant.

In the book of 1kings 13: 11 – 25 another story is told  of a young prophet who was sent by God on a mission with clear instructions that he should not stop to eat, drink or go back by the way he came. After completing his assignment he left but an older prophet came after him and told him “I am a prophet to, God spoke to me by an angel and said you should come with me to eat, drink etc”. Whilst at home with the old prophet the word of God came to remind him of His instructions from God through the mouth of the same old lying prophet. On his way back he was killed by a lion because he listened to a voice that he thought was the voice of God.

Clearly in these stories the voice that was being heard was not God’s ; the people’s choice of a king, was not God either. This statement has been used by many people and leaders as a means of deceiving people into believe that decisions made by large groups or crowds of people are representative of God speaking. This is absolutely false and in many cases is used as a means of manipulation.

God speaks through his assigned messengers, Apostles, Prophets etc and other specifically assigned persons, who through His Holy Spirit will inspire and communicate his word and will. His will and spoken word are consistent with his written word and do not contradict each other. God does not just speak through every and anyone and shockingly but true a lot of persons who claim to be hearing from God or are his ministers or messengers are not; that truly depends on which spirit you are listening to or whose spirit is influencing you.

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80 Comments

  1. De Observer
    April 11, 2015

    Anthony George be careful!!! Are you making a mockery of God??? God is not mocked… it is a fearful thing to fall in the hands of an angry God!!!

  2. The Facts
    January 7, 2015

    What I do know is and as a dear lady (now departed) had said to me when I resided in D/ca, “The word of the people is the word of God.” An incident had occurred in D/ca and the majority agreed.
    Generally, specifically in matters of godliness, the majority counts. Some people may have their own interpretation of this. However, I reiterate, “The word of the people is the word of God.” Sounds better and precise.
    I have never heard, “the voice of the people is the voice of God”. Especially in this era it is not always so.
    For instance, if a good thought crosses my mind when writing which I did not anticipate and which impressed me, I attribute it to God and say “Thank You God.”.
    As it is said, God speaks to us regardless of status. We do not hear his voice. He actually inspires us. Sometimes we are not even certain if God did inspire us. If we have done good or a good thought and advice crossed our mind, we could say it is probably through inspiration. Only God…

    • The Facts
      January 7, 2015

      Only God knows.

    • Francisco Telemaque
      January 7, 2015

      “The word of the people is the word of God.” Sounds better and precise.” (Facts)

      Both you and Elizabeth, need to be locked away in some asylum! The voice of God is the Bible; when you read the Word of God in the Bible you should actually be hearing the word of God. That is the way he communicates with Humans. What the lady may have told you is total nonsense! When you hear people say “God told me to tell you,” you had better ask them how come God did not tell you himself? For your and Elizabeth information only, all of the scriptures she referred me to, deals with the Church. Where it pertains to the Body, and members, or “appendages” it is referring to the people in a congregation, or all true Christians, and believers in God. Again I am limited to the length of my commentary, but I can find scriptures to authenticate what I have written. When you see people are conceited and believe they are smart they usually try to defy God, as you two are doing!

      Francisco E. Telemaque

    • January 8, 2015

      @The Facts January 7, 2015 “Sometimes we are not even certain if God did inspire us. If we have done good or a good thought and advice crossed our mind, we could say it is probably through inspiration. Only God”

      We have to know where the thoughts, of our mind. are rooted before we allow its products on display. Do not forget the saying of wise old King Solomon in his proverbs: ” As a man thinks in his mind so is he” Proverbs 23: 7

      That is the reason we need the gift of “discernment” from God; by faith and the Power of Holy Spirit, we are able to know the difference and to accept or reject the thoughts of our mind–because our attitude and conduct of Life is built on those thoughts.

      I am saying that when it is God through whom I have spoken or made a discussion, I know it, the same as I know what not to do the thing, for God did not approve it.

  3. Francisco Telemaque
    January 6, 2015

    Elizabeth Please Note:

    I the first place Elizabeth you claim that God need you as a medium. The definition of medium in brief is: Something in the middle position. Median indicates “being in the middle or in an intermediate position. You refer me to 1 Corinthians: 12, 13, and 14, to make your point; where I read: (12) For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

    13. For by one Sprit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been al made to drink into one Spirit. 14. For the body is not one member but many.

    Now anybody who interprets that to mean they are the voice of God, or God said he need a medium to speak to anybody on this earth: something has to be wrong with them!

    Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque

    • January 8, 2015

      Francisco Telemaque January 6, 2015

      Telemaque, first of all when will you stop speaking and writing stupidity?

      I knew that was how you would understand it–because you have done so before; but I do not have the resource of words to spell it out to you–you still would not understand anyway; since you also have no reading comprehension. So here I go again, with my 1000 characters from DNO

      I did not send you 1st. Corinthians 12 only, I referred you to the 3 consecutive chapters 12, 13, and 14, where Apostle Paul is teaching us about the “Spiritual Gifts”, from God, which we need to do His work of Salvation and Life in this world.

      I repeat, God Almighty is Spirit, He does not have flesh and bones–we cannot see Him, we cannot hear Him, we cannot touch Him! All that God does in this world for the Salvation and Life of His people He needs a “medium”– physical feature–mostly a human being whom He has given the authority by His Holy Spirit.

      • January 8, 2015

        At 1st. Corinthians 12: 27–31 Apostle Paul says: “Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles? Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?

        Chapter 12 continues in chapter 13 and ends at chapter 14, hence those three chapters are speaking about the gifts from God to do His work of Love in and through us–the people!

        For example how can a person interpret the “tongue speaking person” –his or her gift from God–if that person’s voice is not heard. But whether from God or from Satan, they are both Spirit and spirit. Once again I ask you, if God used a “donkey” at Numbers 22 why not me!

      • January 8, 2015

        “Now anybody who interprets that to mean they are the voice of God or God said he need a medium to speak to anybody on this earth: something has to be wrong with them”! Telemaque

        That thing is wrong with you, because you definitely have not assumed your purpose from God, in this world. Through your attitude and conduct you show that you know nothing about God’s work in Love; but that is the reason mankind exists, that God might use us through His spiritual gifts to glorify His Love and to magnify His name.

        You need to learn about the wheat and tare (weeds); the goat and sheep in the Gospel–of Matthew 13 and Matthew 25; for at this moment you are among the tare of Mathew 13 and the goat of Matthew 25. They are saying you are among the group of: “Go away from Me for I do not know you” from Jesus.

        On the other hand, I am a Teacher or Speaker of God’s Word, also a Writer–“EVANGELISM” is my God given gift; I know who I am in Jesus Christ and He knows me–stop…

      • January 8, 2015

        Stop judging me!

  4. Anthony George
    January 5, 2015

    I met God, and she is a Black woman.

  5. Just Observing
    January 5, 2015

    no wonder we have so many churches claiming to be the authentic church. We use the scriptures to justify our particular situation in life. The same texts is available to all the churches here, yet they all have a different interpretation to the same scripture. Its like two lawyers arguing a case in court from different perspectives as the represent their client’s interest. Since there were only two parties in the elections the writer Mr. Billy Sanderson must be sorely disappointed at the results so he has resorted to the Holy Book and God to tell the people of Dominica they were/are wrong in their choice of a party to lead Dominica. Whatever our stance on the interpretation of the scriptures, we all can find every good arguments justify our individual interpretation of the scripture based on our state in life. What a sore loser you are Pastor Billy Sanderson. The voices of all the churches we have here in Dominica is not necessarily the voice of God – certainly not.

    • Ma Moses
      January 5, 2015

      Oh dear, I see mr. Skerrit’s rear guard have woken up from their slumber again trying to defend the indefensible. Can’t the man speak up for himself? This morning I heard Father Sharplis trying to do the same thing, washing his friend clean. Next thing we know Mr. Skerrit will blame the opposition for all the ills that are falling upon us while he claims he is in charge.

    • Osanna Mowanga
      January 5, 2015

      Thank you Billy for this article. I hope it is the beginning of the people of God letting the Message of God go forth. We have been silent for too long. I pray we will stand and declare truth. I have always been opposed to that. The voice of the people is definitely not the voice of God.Only those who are led by the spirit are the sons of God. There is too much deception going on. Too many are being deceived for a few dollars.
      Sir or whoever you are, Billy is no loser. Life does not exist in the abundance of things that a man has. ho God bless no man curse.Do you think those who have gained wealth through evil means, deception, exploitation are winners? Soon we will understand who the losers are and who the winners are.

    • cast the first rock
      January 6, 2015

      Do not attack Mr. Sanderson-attack the Bible. The statement he very bravely commented on is not a political statement but a statement that is very often used to justify the because the masses have gone a particular direction then it is the voice of God. By your position to attack the man on politics means you are not open to the discussion. Free your mind from politics and see if the same situation applies in other instances where the people felt God spoke because there was a positive outcome in their favour.

    • The Facts
      January 7, 2015

      There is Only One Authentic Church. Recall 2000 years ago when Our Lord said, “Thou art Peter and upon this Rock I will build My Church. . .” He did not say, “you will build your church”.
      You should know which Church had the Bible first, which God intended it to have first, giving it the mandate to correct interpretation as inspired by the Holy Spirit.
      Those who formed their own church, beginning with Luther, took some Chapters out of it and interpreted the rest to suit their mentality and lifestyle. They chose what to believe and not believe. You will note that these churches’ bibles are not as thick as the Catholic Holy Bible.
      I am informing you, those who do not believe what I stated on that inevitable day when they die the truth will be revealed to them.
      Know that Our Lord did not leave us several different churches and mass confusion. It was not his intention that we would have all those different ones, creating division and disunity, each with their own…

  6. Toyota Da
    January 5, 2015

    Who are these theologans speaking and writing? Where did you all study? What wealth of experience do you have in philosophical, psychological and theological dissertations. It is sickening to read some of these comments. Please if you have no depth of studies in these fields just read and shut up. There seem to be a lack of expertise and solid reasoning on this topic. What I see so often is a distraction from the the truth into a political grudge and discontent. Can we be more reasonable and intellectual. Give politics a break, man. Shocks.

    • Titiwi
      January 5, 2015

      You are too smart but we will not buy it! This is not about the will of God , it is about claiming that the voice of the people is the voice of God. God does not have any human dimensions and therefore no limitations.

  7. ??????????????????
    January 4, 2015

    information, Government is not only the elected majority; it also includes the Opposition making up House of Assembly. Debates should include contributions from opposition. Here we see opposition only opposing & their supporters as well think that they should disrespectful the Ruling Party not being their choce. I am calling on those persons esp those who are intelligent to desist from that tribal red/blue/yellow tribal warefare. If you were wise as according to God’s wisdom, you would know that you should ask persons to pray for those in authority as mandated by the Heavenly Father. Had the opposition won, we would still have to say the same. So let us stop showing our personal preference. Elections are over until 2019. The statements clearly shows hatred as what is in shows out in comments, speech etc. It is 2015 a New Year, Let us wish peace to everyone because it the peace of Christ that we all need in times like now. Let the Government govern until voting in 2019

  8. Dominican
    January 4, 2015

    It is laughable! The same old uwp, hahahaha hahaha. You fools! Lennox Linton would be the Prime minister if LABOUR did not win. You all are studying the same bad script for the pass 14 years. I promise you, uwp will not win an election in another 15 years. You all don’t have what it takes to win. Blame and negative comments parked with big crowds don’t translate to a win in the ballot box. Hahahaha

    • Free and Fair
      January 5, 2015

      But, buying votes and maintain9ng an outdated, inflated Electoral List will win everytime.

    • The Explainer
      January 5, 2015

      Of course Labour WILL win for the next 15 years. as long has Skierro has money to buy those Judases he WILL be re-elected It shows that he has little confidence in the voters voting him sincerely Labour Power! It doe matter. lol.

  9. ??????????????????
    January 4, 2015

    You all quoting scriptures to suit your personal needs and everyone wants to feel self rigtheous and that they are right to show their subjective personal preference. Every one of us have to give the Creator / The Heavenly Father his honour. Don’t you think the Sovereign Father creator of Heaven and Earth knew who would win the election? Don’t you believe that he already knows whowill win in 2019? I can also quote the Scripture Romans 13 as well. Regardless of our preferences, the will of God will always prevail at the end of everything. All persons , whether spiritual, unspiritual etc, it is high time to stop bemoaning about who have or who should have won election. In the world method of election, someone has emerged. It was not a coup. Now we all should stop the hatred and pull our socks and work hard. Opposition is not about moaning and crying. It is about supporting what is good and giving suggestions for a better solution to the Government. And for your…

  10. The Prophet
    January 4, 2015

    The fallacious presentation of “vox populi, vox dei” (the voice of the people is the voice of God”, as an axiom has been warned against since ancient times. In 789 St. Acuin (also known as Albinus), a renowned English scholar and teacher, employed at the court of Emperor Charlemagne advised the latter: “The people should not be listened to, who keep saying the voice of the people is the voice of God, since the riotousness of the crowd is always close to madness”.
    One would have expected at least a word of caution from our church leaders , if not a rebuke to our political leader for making such an erroneous and dangerous claim.

  11. Me
    January 4, 2015

    – “I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator”
    -“make the lie big, make it simple,keep saying it and eventually they will believe it”
    -“It is not truth that matters but victory”
    – “How fortunate for governments that the people they administrate don’t think”
    Quotes from Adolf Hitler.

  12. Ma Moses
    January 4, 2015

    God has no colour and He certainly is not red.

  13. January 4, 2015

    I will not go too deep into this discussion, but just a reminder: God is Spirit, He needs a medium to do His work of Life for His chosen people, here in this world.

    Jesus the Man, the Son in flesh and bones, was God Almighty’s, Eternal Spirit, Christ in Love, Primary medium, when He walked the Earth, today, by the Power of Holy Spirit–God uses His appointed servants, even the people; through their words, attitude, and conduct–for His glory– in Love and Holiness. That is a fact the few people are aware of; that is the reason this world is so plagued with Godless people– too bad that those who are searching for Him are led astray through darkness & confusions–may they meet with His mercy & compassion.

    God knows through whom He works; so do the people He appoints– trust, humility, and obedience is the key. Who am I, or any other individual, to decide that “the people have spoken by the Voice of God, is correct or incorrect? This article is of personal…

    • January 4, 2015

      DNO, thank you for your new feature of the 1000 character limit to a post. This feature is teaching me to be less wordy and to get the point–that is something I have tried to overcome, for the longest while–it is sure going to work for me now. But thank you as well that we have that 1000 character to continue writing our thoughts. Have a great year in 2015!

    • January 4, 2015

      Correction again: “This article is of personal judgment” I did not notice I had ran out of characters–O dear!

      But I still like this new feature of DNO.

    • BRAIN DAMAGE
      January 4, 2015

      Lazy4jesus, did not quote any verse of scripture to back her opinion, the writer used verses of scriptures
      to show where is coming from.

      • January 5, 2015

        @BRAIN DAMAGE January 4, 2015

        What is your point? First of all I only have 1000 characters–not words–to write my thoughts, unlike the writer who had as many pages as he or she needed.

        Secondly, the writer said that the “statement” in question was unscriptural–to follow him or her in quoting Scriptures would be an argument–I am not into this sort of thing all in all.

        Thirdly, as I said in my post above, I don’t believe any individual has the right to decide when God has spoken or not spoken through people or a person–only God and those whom He uses as His medium to do His work, knows it; and there is nothing man can do when He has done His work.

        Besides, if God wasn’t using us, the people, to do His work of Life all in all–what would be the reason for His Holy Spirit, in and among us today? For God is Spirit and no one can see or hear Him–if not through His chosen servants among us

        Why should I quote the Scriptures to speak such simply principles.

      • January 6, 2015

        Which is pretty much he same as far as I can see.

        Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. International Evangelist. :-P

    • Francisco Telemaque
      January 5, 2015

      “God is Spirit, He needs a medium to do His work of Life for His chosen people, here in this world.”(Elizabeth).

      Elizabeth, where in the Bible God ever said he need you or anyone else as a medium? I am not here trying to dignify your ignorance, but you need to stop what you are doing because your thoughts are false. Jesus Christ is the medium between God and humans; as he said to his disciples after he leave this earth, anything they want they should ask the Father in his name, believing they will receive it.

      God is a Sprit indeed, man also has a sprit, that is why the Bible teaches to worship him in sprit and in truth. Since I am limited to how much I can write; I cannot explain it any better. Nevertheless, he appointed some preachers, teachers, ect.. However, there is no mention of God requiring any one to serve as a medium through which he speaks to anybody on this earth. The medium is the Bible. Some pray, “speak to me Lord” not realizing God is talking to them through…

      • Francisco Telemaque
        January 5, 2015

        God is talking to them through the Bible. Jesus Christ is the mediator between God Jehovah, and humans. Jesus said no man cometh to the Father but by me! A few days ago you missed quoted the scripture when you commented about “I AM” regarding Moses.

        Be aware, that Jesus is “I AM That I AM.” Remember this ” I am the way the truth and the light:

        I am the good Shepard, Jesus is again referring to himself as ” I AM That I AM” you are fooling around playing with God, and his words; but you had better be careful because God is not mocked, we are all sinners, the least we can do is try and find the truth in his words, you would be better off pretending that you are some sort of mediator between God and people: To be a medium, means you are mediator between God and man!

        Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque

      • January 5, 2015

        “Elizabeth, where in the Bible God ever said he need you or anyone else as a medium?

        Telemaque once again, I suggest that you shut-up when its comes to God and His word; you are in no way qualified to speak on that “concept”, you do not have that kind of Spiritual “wisdom” and “understanding”, much more for “knowledge” of God, which is needed to do so. Your “futility” of human wisdom and philosophy does not fit–God wants nothing to do with that kind of doctrine–it is of the world, of which you are planted, rooted and grounded in its system of existence.

        In other words you have no Life in you, but God is about Life in Spirit, through Love and Holiness! You are a natural man with a carnal mind, wandering the earth–“But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are “spiritually” discerned. 1st Corinthians 2: 14

      • January 6, 2015

        “Elizabeth, where in the Bible God ever said he need you or anyone else as a medium?”

        This question above is the most stupid one to come from a human mind, I would ignore you, but for the sake of people who are searching for the truth, I must speak out.

        I suggest that you go to 1st. Corinthians 12, 13, & 14, where the Apostle Paul is speaking about our Spiritual Gifts from God, then you should have a clear answer to your childish stupidity.

        At Romans 12, why would Paul suggest that between the Church and Jesus Christ, there is One Body–Jesus is the Head; we are the body parts to do the work of Love through our Salvation?

        How is Holy Spirit, presently glorifying the Son, as the Son glorifies the Father, if He is not using us, the people, God’s congregation–His physical medium here in this world?

        At Numbers 22, if God used a donkey to discipline its owner, why would He not use man, the medium of His own Image and Likeness to do the same work of Life in this…

      • January 6, 2015

        Finally, here is confirmation from the apostle Paul to justify my wisdom, understanding, and knowledge of God and Life by faith and His word–simple and clear! Now take a seat and pay attention

        This quote here is from Romans 12: 4-8. If you people are going to bring the Bible into an political election result why not use all its examples? And so does God need to vocalize His voice through the people? The answer is yes: otherwise how would He receive glorification, due to Him from us–His people?

        “For as we have many members in one body, but they all do not have the same function, so we, being many, are “One Body” in Christ—-. Having then “gifts” differing according to God’s grace to us, let us use them: If prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching; he who exhorts, in exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with…

  14. another jesus
    January 3, 2015

    Servant of God, In response to your question in the commentary above it all depends on which God you are referring to. If you are referring to God Almighty-the God the church once served, then the answer is NO! The voice of the people CANNOT be the voice of this God. However, if you are referring to the present god of most Christians in Dominica, the one they referred to as ‘jesus’, then when his people speak they speak his language and therefore their voice is the voice of their god. In fact the ex evangelist that use to hit the catholic church and Mary before CANNOT dear open his mouth now to say anything against the church and Virgin Mary he use to criticize because now he serves the same god as them even if he attends an evangelical church. The article of Dec. 9 2014, that DNO published, it was Skerrit that made that statement about the voice of the people is the voice of God and he was therefore referring to the voice of his followers.

    • out of south city
      January 4, 2015

      Too much confusion about this god issue.

  15. January 3, 2015

    @happy: you voted for sewo because you are living in a fools paradise and it would seems that every free thinking Dominican who expresses their God given rights are always vex according to you. Yes skerro is PM, but that does not mean that freedom of speech is dead, you are the vexed one . the people will express themselves from now until the next general elections because that’s the way it is untill Jesus returns no crooked facts and reptiles can change that.

  16. January 3, 2015

    This is true. The collective voice of the majority is not always the voice of God.

    When the Nation of Israel refused the rule of God through his prophets and insisted on having a king like the other nations God allowed them to choose their own form of government which in their case at that time was a king. Through the centuries different types of governments have arisen some with more merit perhaps than others.

    Democracy allows us to choose through the process of voting to put in office the person we think will do the best job. This does not guarantee that the individual chosen is the choice of God to rule the people. Evil men through the democratic process have gained the upper hand and became dictators.

    This is why people of faith should pray for wisdom from God to make the right choice at election time. However whether we win or not we are to honor and obey those who rule over us while they are in office according to Romans 13:1-7.

    Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill

    • January 4, 2015

      @Rev. Donald Hill January 3, 2015 “This is true. The collective voice of the majority is not always the voice of God”

      Rev. Hill, in the above, you changed the “opinion” of the writer of this article, who claims that saying “the voice of the people is the voice of God is “INCORRECT”–you said it is “NOT ALWAYS THE VOICE Of GOD” –except that you started with “THIS IS TRUE” It seem as if you misled readers, by not speaking the exact opinion of the writer, but you claim that person’s opinion “is true”–didn’t you?

      But later down you said: “This is why people of faith should pray for wisdom from God to make the right choice at election time”– Then what do you think people of faith should say, when they believe that God has led them to do the right thing, because they prayed to Him for guidance? Don’t you think they should remain positive, trustful, humble, and obedience, as they give God the glory? Well I did! And I will continue to believe I am His…

      • January 4, 2015

        That last line should read: I will continue to believe I am His voice with the people–good heavens!

      • Francisco Telemaque
        January 4, 2015

        “That last line should read: I will continue to believe I am His voice with the people–good heavens!”

        Elizabeth, you are absolutely wrong again. You write all sorts of things about God; you believe you are an authority on the words of God, and anything you say should be accepted by everyone. The day when you wrote that nonsense supporting that man from Northern California who made the clamed that the World was going to end on a certain day; the World did not end that day, you supported his foolishness, by claiming that God gave him a message, but he messed it up!

        He was determine, and recalculate his time, and told the world of his new date. He was one of Satan tools which you could not discern, shortly after he spoke his lie which you believed, he suffered a massive stroke and died! You are Elizabeth’s words, and not the voice of God!

        Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque

      • January 5, 2015

        “Elizabeth, you are absolutely wrong again”

        Telemaque, you have no authority to judge me, and you will never be qualified to do so. I know who I am in Jesus Christ and He knows me that is all that matters. I want nothing to do with your thoughts of futility–which reveals how dead you are.

        Now continue to go around like the monkey whom you are, speaking your monkey things against other people’s thoughts–but leave mine alone; once again, where God or anything about Life is concerned, you have no qualifications to discuss Him with me–why won’t you accept that and leave me alone? Gush man!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • letitflow
      January 4, 2015

      Pastor I am a bit confused!!

      If the elected politicians are said to be the servant of the people and the people the master then WHO should really be the authority?? I think this is where the Voice of people being the voice of God and authority ties into each other. I think if everything is done JUST and RIGHT with men doing no evil bidding in elections or whichever leadership role and people are left to vote on RIGHT conscience and the Godly will of their servants (Politician) then the people’s voice may actually be the voice of God and also be his authority because his voice (words) is his authority (Author-rity). You cant separate them.
      I know leadership and authority in bible are 2 different things. So my understanding of Titus is that if leaders are under the Autho-rity of the LAWS of God then they will execute the RIGHT judgement hence anyone who does not honor these leaders are deserving of the punishments they receive. So a no law leader is an UnAuthor-ized leader.

      • letitflow
        January 4, 2015

        **Correction Romans 13 not Titus.

      • Francisco Telemaque
        January 4, 2015

        ” I think this is where the Voice of people being the voice of God and authority ties into each other.”

        Absolutely not!

        Actually the rubbish people talk and teach has nothing to do with the word of God. In any event the voice of God is what: ” thus saith the Lord as it is written in the Bible”, and it should be read, preached, and taught as it is written in the Bible! Everything in the Bible is self explanatory; some people jump off the high of what they were using, and start reading the Bible, then they claim they found God, and pretend they are an authority on the word of God. What did God do with Moses?

        He took forty years to prepared Moses before he sent him back to Egypt to free the people.

        Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque

    • Worried Dominican
      January 4, 2015

      @ Rev. Donald Hill

      You say sir “This is why people of faith should pray for wisdom from God to make the right choice at election time. However whether we win or not we are to honor and obey those who rule over us while they are in office according to Romans 13:1-7.” The second part of that account bothers me for two reasons.

      Firstly, are we to submit ourselves to their rule irrespective of whether or not the win was ‘illegally’ or ‘legitimately’ obtained?

      Secondly, how can one of Godly dispensation ‘honour and OBEY those who rule over us’ if they are seen to represent and promote that which the devil desires? God instructs us to be honourable and true in all our actions, always seeking to do HIS will. Is it not contrary to his message to say that once the results have been declared and the incumbent said to be the winner (irrespective of irregularities), that one should accept that result and fall in line in order to ‘honour and obey those who rule us’?

      Please…

      • January 6, 2015

        A man may not be the choice of God but if enough people who do not know God nor His ways vote for the man he is going to get in. This is why people of faith should pray for wisdom and seek to discern the will of God at election time. Sometimes we make a mistake or we are out numbered.

        Once the man is in office we must honor and obey him as our leader according to Romans 13:1-7 unless he orders us to disobey God. If he gives us a law that requires us to act contrary to the law of God it is NOT valid! As Christians we have a right to disobey that law. There are a number of examples of this in the Bible. Please read Acts 5:25-29. The apostles been commanded by the rulers not to preach the Word of God. Peter stood against the rulers and boldly said IT IS BETTER TO OBEY GOD THAN MEN :!: The apostles continued to preach the gospel as Christ had commanded them to do in Matthew 28:18-20, and Mark 16:15-16.

        Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. International Evangelist.

    • Osanna Mowanga
      January 6, 2015

      Thank you Br. Hill. What do the other pastors, preachers and evangelists have to say>
      ? The people need to hear from you. what does Peter R, B J, have to say on this?
      what about the evangelist R J in C B have to say? I hope you keep standing as an independent man. I hope you have not been bought.
      I hear Skerrit buying all of all you.
      Your integrity is worth much more than a few thousand dollars.

      • January 6, 2015

        Osanna:

        Thank you for reading my comment and taking time to reply to me.

        I do not live in Dominica, and I have never met PM Skerrit. Obviously, he has the confidence of
        the majority of voters, and has had for a number of successive terms. The Bible admonishes us to pray for and obey those in authority over us. They have a big responsibility. Of course this applies even to those we did not vote for and those we may not think are up to snuff as the saying goes.

        It is my duty as an evangelist and Bible teacher to uncompromisingly tell people what God says. I teach Bible principles that apply without respect of persons to all people in very nation. So when what I say could apply to any situation in Dominica please understand that I am speaking in broad terms. It would apply anywhere a similar situation exists. DNO is read around the world.

        Please visit my website http://www.livinghopeministries.ca and click onto my ARTICLE “Things that cannot be Shaken.” This is our…

  17. JoJo
    January 3, 2015

    I heard mr. Skerrit saying exactly the same when he spoke to the crowd in Portsmouth at his party victory rally on 9 Dec. This is some kind of psychology to make simple people believe that his victory is the will of God and I think he really believes that. But Roosevelt, if the voice of the people is the voice of God it must also include the 43% of voters in Dominica that voted against you, God listens to them too you know! I hope your message is not that because your God has spoken we can ignore them. That same evening you also said that the labour party won the election and the the opposition lost the election. You must remember that you lost a lot of ground to the opposition, who gained ground at your expense. For the future of our country and your own peace of mind I hope you find it in your heart you treat everybody equal, without fear or favour as per the oath you swore before the same God.

    • yeah
      January 4, 2015

      Just as Armstrong did not win the Tour De France, Skerrit did not win the elections. Contrary to what his supporters will say, A WIN IS NOT A WIN, if it is not done according to the accepted rules and principles. So, in my view, Skerrit is occupying the seat of power ILLEGALLY!

      • Titiwi
        January 4, 2015

        Amen bro., Amen! That was a hollow victory for brother Roosevelt. Despite all that lavish spending he has less support than before and he finds that difficult to swallow, believe me.

    • A Doubting Thomas
      January 5, 2015

      If after a Government has been in power for 3 consecutive terms and comes again to win a 4th term with a big majority and you are saying that they lost a lot of ground to the opposition; what can we say about the opposition?

      If I were a member of the Opposition I would not been talking of the three seats we won from the Labour Party. I would be worrying as to why the Dominican people refuses to put us back in Government and where are we going wrong.

      My dear people the truth is the opposition has lost the General Elections 4 consecutive times. There is no sugar coating there. True you gain 3 seats but after a 4th election 20 years later and that is very very poor for your supporters and the Dominican public.

      A Lost is A Lost!! You lost again and the DLP won again. Period!! That means the Prime Minister and the DLP is still highly favoured after 20 years by the majority of the electorate who considers them the best ones to lead the country and not the UWP.

  18. world peace
    January 3, 2015

    According to the bible i read the person who wrote this commentery is right on track. God’s word is the truth, god is the truth and he never lies. The voice of the people is Not the voice of God.

  19. Where is the cross
    January 3, 2015

    The voice of the people can also be the voice of devil. People do get possessed by his evil. He comes in different, shapes, looks and sizes, to entice you with bronze, siver, gold. and even diamonds-you can well immagine the desperation to take oer the world. He bites you when you least expect. and has got so confident that he now makes his moves in broad daylight. He then, makes a sudden disappearance to some unknown harbour where he recharges his fuel. The devil has a wife and many two-way lovers who appear at fuctions and on the pulpit. They start in a low pitch, then suddenly into a high one, then low again into some scrambled words.; coughing here and there in a choke choke fashion.
    The dragon devil (DD) is very clever and cunning and knows your weakenesses. He will come to you with a red smile (RS).
    Get you garlic people and a dazzling cross and let good rule the land.

  20. The Evangelist
    January 3, 2015

    Let’s stop being technical and call a spade a spade. The article you DNO published on Dec. 9, 20014, was a statement made by Mr. Skerrit himself. DNO just quoted skerrit and as we all know by now, truth and this gentleman don’t usually agree whether he uses God’s name or the bible. It is just sad that the so called church buys into his statements. But then again is this strange? Didn’t satan use part of the bible to deceive Adam and Eve? Preachers and church people that are greedy and think wealth is godliness will believe the lies of Skerrit especially where money is concerned. But Skerrit knows very well they are not true servants of God and will never turn to them when he has spiritual needs. No wonder Skerrit is sacastically saying if he were a pastor his church would have more members than that of those pastors and when he retires from politics he will become a pastor.

  21. Titiwi
    January 3, 2015

    If you were one of the devil’s spawn who were paid to come from foreign lands to put a yoke on our backs you will be cursed .Mark my words, you will be cursed. The election is not over and Skerrit knows it!

    • yeah
      January 4, 2015

      They ARE cursed!

    • A Doubting Thomas
      January 5, 2015

      The elections are over. Get over it!!

      As it was in 2000; 2005; 2009 and 2014. In 1995 the people accepted the fact the UWP won and Dominicans accepted that the UWP won and formed the government.

      Dominicans spoke in 1995 as they did again in the four consecutive elections since then. Learn to live with it and try to see where you have been going wrong and if you continue the same way in the next 5 years; I can guarantee that you will again get the same results.

      The UWP type of politics is not what we want or need in Dominica it is too divisive.

  22. The Evangelist
    January 3, 2015

    I want to state clearly that, while the first part of the statement may be true the second however, “the voice of the people is the voice of God” is absolutely incorrect and non scriptural.
    Unlike the servant of God who wrote this beautiful article and agrees with the first part and disagrees with the second part, I will go a step further and disagree with both parts for the following reasons: 1. The people did not speak; it was MONEY that spoke and Ecclesiastes 10:19 says “money answereth all things.” Skerrit has a money tree that he opens during election and was able and has been able to buy elections. So let’s be very clear about this. 2. If the voice of the people is the voice of God as stated by Skerrit and later by the former evangelist, then god’s voice is misleading. The voice of God is a voice of truth, justice, love, honesty, integrity, etc. What the people responded to was a voice of greed, corruption, lies, hypocrisy, dishonesty etc., and God was very far from that…

    • A Doubting Thomas
      January 5, 2015

      The Evangelist

      If this were true that the people did not speak and money did; then the UWP would have got ZERO votes

      So in that case, are you instead saying that the people who voted for the UWP, their voices were of greed, corruption, lies, hypocrisy, dishonesty etc. as you stated above? Did the devil speak to them? You cannot have it both ways.

      • January 5, 2015

        @A Doubting Thomas January 5, 2015

        That is a “Good One”! I wonder who can handle it with quotes from the Bible–good grief!

        How can people not understand that God Almighty, of Spirit, has to do His work through people; He a chosen people in this world–that is the way He demonstrate His glory in Love and Holiness; that is what Jesus meant when He told us through His disciples: “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another” John 13: 34 What would be the reason for the commandments if they were not meant to be done by people?

        Jesus also told us: “I am the Vine and you are the branches, without Me you can do nothing” John 15: 5 Today, Holy Spirit is the teacher, influencer, and motivator for the works of Love. If He is not using people to do this work, how would God receive delight–which is the reason He created man in the first place?

      • January 5, 2015

        Love is the attitude and conduct of Life–all in all– in this world, for God’s delight. “His law is Love and His Gospel is Peace” How would witnesses observe this law and this peace, if not through the word and deed of people? Why the Law in the first place, if they are not to be followed by people?

        Satan is spirit also, does anyone knows what he looks like? He took the form of a serpent (snake) in the Garden of Eden to seduce the woman Eve. But his evil works are seen everywhere today–no doubt–how is he doing those works without using people?

        Pertaining to the God of Spirit in Truth and Holiness, Jesus Himself, confirmed this when He told His disciples: ” Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have Luke 24: 39

        By my ability of discernment, I hear God’s voice through Holy Spirit in me, and by the people’s voice–those of us whom He has called to speak His words–that is for…

  23. Lawrence Ettienne
    January 3, 2015

    SIr there is no relevance to this election’s results, I think you are pushing a post election agenda that has no place in the forward movement of things in this country. What is needed is a sound word from God for your congregation this Sunday, and leave the political arena for those it has been design for. The best way to educate anyone after this election, so to have something more solid and profound that will not only tickle the ears of your readers but prompt them to absolute action.

  24. Efficatious
    January 3, 2015

    Good article and good preaching,this came to my mind, Are you in the wrong profession? James put you in it and has to be James to take you out because you still have to face madam speaker and Skerrit as your boss.I know it hurts but someone has to do it.

  25. DANZIGER
    January 3, 2015

    Maybe the voice of the ppl is the voice of satan. but I’d like to kw yours cuz we all have sins Sir. Labour in the house who vex go and preach as usually thats ALL.

    • yeah
      January 4, 2015

      You sound as GUILTY as the Devil himself wish he was.

      Your conscience is disturbed because use you know you are on the wrong side of God and on the wrong side of morality and on the wrong side of history.

      • DANZIGER
        January 4, 2015

        @yeah, it seems as if you want to control me, if im gulity and on the wrong side thats me cuz I TOLD YOU ALL IS Labour all the way. Yes am guilty as the devil, what eles and im gulity as yr conscience. Stay on the right side with god the right side of morality and history. I’d rather stay on the devil side and be free than I cross yr side and be a HIPPOCRITE for ever. Hope you live a sinless life cuz that same conscience will come back to judge you.

  26. Happy
    January 3, 2015

    Garson, you still blue vex and using the word of the bible to intimidate people. I left the VI where there is festival, but, there is no place like DA. Dominicans spoke on December 8th and respect that! Come to DA to see how happy and crowded DA is! The streets of DA are overflowing with seewoo. Get over it the people has wisely spoken. Go and get some rest and wake up! Skerro is PM.

    • world peace
      January 3, 2015

      obviously u are not living in the same Dominica that i am living in!

    • world peace
      January 3, 2015

      happy. In dominica? the day after election the place was as quiet as a mouse. there was no sewoo. again i say u are not leaving in the same dominica i am living in.

    • Francisco Telemaque
      January 3, 2015

      What does your comment have to do with anything the author wrote?

      What does living in the Virgin islands have to do with the true words of God: The write is correct, many people like to talk about God, their arguments are mostly based on the warped philosophy of men, taught by organized religion.

      There are lots of false religion all over the place, on Television, in addition to others. If you believe the rubbish taught by the organize religions such as the Roman Cathoilc, and the more organized religions in Dominica, your soul is already lost!

      Where it relates to politics, be informed that God plays no part in politics, you mentioned Skerrit, and the people. God may have allowed the corrupted elements to succeed in buying votes to win the election, however, he played no part in what went on in Dominica, nor what is going on there this very day.

      As it is written in the Bible “many are called, but few are chosen.” There is another part of scripture which states, on that…

      • Francisco Telemaque
        January 3, 2015

        As it is written in the Bible “many are called, but few are chosen.” There is another part of scripture which states, on that day many will say “we cast out devils in thy name.” Jesus said he will answer and say to them “depart from me for I know you not. I wish I was not limited to what I write, nevertheless read the Bible for yourself and find the truth, only then you will realize that many of the so called father, bishop, parsons, and priest, are doing their personal work, and not actually the work of God; I do not care what robe they dressed in, or how much they clasp their hands when they walk, God is not in their hypocrisy!

        If you believe that the words of the people are that of God, tell the government to clean the voters list, and stop importing people to vote, and call an election, let’s see what part God will play to cause Skerrit to win.

        Admin, this completes the full text of what I wrote, it is by no means lengthy, you need to change to what is was, it is a…

    • January 3, 2015

      you and him NOT HAPPY all you CANNOT SLEEP in peace…….look how old and tornmented he looks……his end is near

    • letitflow
      January 3, 2015

      “I left the VI where there is festival, but, there is no place like DA. Dominicans spoke on December 8th and respect that! Come to DA to see how happy and crowded DA is! The streets of DA are overflowing with seewoo”.

      Boss…
      Who you trying to mislead?
      Which DA you were or is there nuh?? Because I ain’t seeing that in the DA I am there. And the write up was not discussing who win or lose but rather dispelling a cliche that is used for popular decisions that are made by human beings. I think you must be seeing Carnival in a vision my brother.

    • may
      January 3, 2015

      You are so full of yourself and suffering terribly from red eyes that you can’t see much less understand.

  27. Worried Dominican
    January 3, 2015

    Thank you for the clarification sir!!!! It is pretty obvious that any one who believes in the statement, THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE IS THE VOICE OF GOD is speaking from a point of naivety!! The bible says MANY ARE CALLED BUT FEW ARE CHOSEN!! That in itself is an indication that the voice of ‘the masses’ many times will be contrary to the will of our creator!! I wish that persons of the faith would speak more forcefully to the involvement of representatives of ‘Christianity’ or ‘the faith’, in a POLITICAL CAMPAIGN riddled with hurtful, derogatory and denigrating utterances never once challenged by them as being ‘UNGODLY’. I would challenge you to openly give your view on their participation in ‘CHRISTIAN CONCERTS’ attended by thousands with RED POLITICAL PROPAGANDA CLOTHING and to give your view as to the lack of INCLUSIVENESS in such actions and the contradiction therefore of such actions as they relate to God’s message of love and unity!! IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED AND…

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