Edward “Alcapone” Green was found guilty of the murder of Damian Dorival by a nine-member jury on Wednesday.
He will be sentenced on September 6.
The jury deliberated for about three hours before reaching a verdict which was described by lead prosecutor, Trinidadian Keith Scotland, as “true…in keeping with the evidence.”
“The prosecution feels that the jury took the evidence that was laid before it and we think that in calling our 29 witnesses that, respectfully, we discharge our burden as prosecutors,” he told reporters.
He had praise for the police who he said did a “thorough investigation” in the matter although the scientific evidence which was examined in Barbados was, according to him, lost and compromised. “So if the police didn’t do such a thorough investigation in the first place, we would have been severely handicapped,” he pointed out. “We used what we had and I think we optimized it.”
He said the truthfulness of the witnesses was probably the strongest aspect of the case and said the prosecution will not be seeking the death penalty.
Meanwhile one of Green’s attorneys, Darius Jones, said the defense is not going to challenge the jury’s decision ‘at this point.’ “We will be taking instructions from our client and decide the way forward,” he stated.
Another of Green’s attorneys, Peter Alleyne, described the entire matter as a ‘tragedy.’ “There are not victors here,” he remarked.
He said although many Dominicans have been describing the crime as the worst killing or massacre on the island, this is not the case. “…We tend to forget the 1963 carnival fire where are number of persons were burnt to death and a number of persons still remain with the scars,” he noted. “That case was never brought to the court, there will be no records in the courts where there is an acquittal of anybody or anybody was convicted for it …I would consider those crimes the most heinous crimes committed.”
Alleyne said he will give a full statement on the case itself after sentencing.
Dorival was murdered in 2008.
According to court reports, he was shot and beheaded.
His body was found on Elmshall Road while his head was found in the Palm Grove River.
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What goes around comes around…it might take time but it always does
You did the crime now do your time and ponder, you still have time to repent that’s a plus for you!
@Frenz July 18, 2013 “I am sure those prats cone in as span or junk mail in God’s email. Doh even bother try tweeter cause both you and Truth and Justice have been blocked” Those are your words here
First of all I am saying to you: “Get behind me Satan” and continue to stay at my back
Your are such a fool and existing in ignorance about God and Life; now you are using the worldly system to talk about Him.
So tell me what did God used to deal with people starting from Cane and Abel with Adam and Eve? Do you think He sent email messages to people like Noah, Abraham, and Mary for example?
You foolish individual! As far as I know up to maybe less than 30 years ago no one knew what email was. If you want to say something against my comment why don’t you give your comment a more constructive theme?
I suggest that you worry about blocking yourself from God; I have assurance that He is with me from day to day; I know where I will be in Eternity–do you know about yourself?
Fellow Dominicans, for the love of God, no matter what you must be fair and practice same. Let God lead your heart; not the devil and not what you think on the mere surface according to your mentality.
None of us know if he did in fact murder the man. He knows if he did it or not. If this is true, the mistake he made was to inform other people he would kill him. I wonder if the sons told the truth. They used that against him but it is hearsay which the Court should not have accepted. In addition, there were 29 witnesses against his few. Who knows if they did not concoct their testimony? We must consider that when people hate others what would they not say and do to incriminate them and especially if they are paid an exorbitant sum. Money talks all the way to the bank. It will not talk in Heaven nor find its way there!
I do think that the Human Rights International should intervene. For one, he was kept incarcerated for 5 years without a hearing. This was maltreatment to begin with. How was he treated in prison during that time? His health deteriorated in prison. Did he receive proper medical care?
People who murder others are released on bail soon after they committed the murders. Those who rob business institutions of exorbitant sums of money with face masks and at gunpoint, injuring staff (fortunately they were not killed), are released on bail. There is one, the $30,000 have not yet been found but he was released on bail. He knows where that money is and may also be using it.
A few months ago a man, Bertrand from Laudat was murdered. The murderer was arrested. The following day, if not the same day he was released on bail. Some others are released. Yet, they kept Green five years in prison without a hearing as his health deteriorated. They made excuses why his case was not yet heard during that time. It was incompetency and slowness on the part of the DPP and the government while he was incarcerated for 5 years, as his health deteriorated.
From what I have been reading on DNO pertaining to various cases, I have noted that unfair practices are exercised in the Dominica jurisdiction which Dominican residents are well aware of and angrily comment about. They should be addressed to the Human Rights International.
This case will never go away until justice is meted out. A Dominican woman who resides in Toronto murdered her two children while in Dominica. It was stated that she was angry her lover did not marry her He married another woman. The children were buried in Dominica.
Do you know why this man was called Al Capone? Do some research to find out who Al Capone the real one was.
I wonder what she informed the Canadian government about for she had to report their deaths to the Canadian Registrar.
One was a baby and the other one may have been 5 years old. She was arrested and bailed. She was supposed to attend a preliminary hearing. Prior to this hearing, it appears that the former DPP, Pestiana, sneakily arranged no doubt with her parents who reside in Ontario to return to Canada. The last I heard the father resides in Mississauga, Ontario and is a pastor – some pastor – no doubt one who was a practicing Catholic.
This 25 year-old woman was sneaked out of Dominica. The DPP said that she was released to Canadian government officials. I doubt this very much. She was released to her parents; not Cdn. government officials.
While in D/ca she was examined by a Psychiatrist, Dr. Benjamin who said that she was fit to stand trial. The DPP ignored Dr. Benjamin’s diagnosis and stated that D/ca does not have the facility to assist her. Other Dominicans who are mentally ill are at the mental facility. It is good enough for them but it was not good enough for her by their standards.
We know the DPP told a downright lie. Dominican residents and those who reside abroad were not pleased with this man’s decision. She never faced the D/ca Court for her murder of her two children. She is back in Canada residing in freedom.
I heard that she also has a Face Book page and has written to friends and others. She had contacted the Dominica Radio. Last year someone saw her in the Toronto Carnival bands, enjoying herself… This is not a person who is mentally ill.
Dominica receives much help from other countries with the hard-earned tax dollars of those nationals. Those of us who reside abroad are among those taxpayers. To be fair, the government better look into this and revamp its unfair Court System including the Police Force.
No matter what, those who dislike him to the point of hating him, even those he did not harm, I do not have that feeling in my heart. The Lord is forgiving and merciful and He has taught us to be forgiving and merciful. There will be people who will feel compassion towards him. God, in His mercy arranges that he will not be alone in this respect.
Therefore, this is my stand on this issue and where he is concerned as a human being whom God created. He is still a child of God and always will be because God created him. God does not hate him but looks with compassion on him as he does to all of us imperfect people.
We are obligated to pray for him as for others and ourselves. It is a command of God which we are to obey otherwise… We know the repercussion of disobedience to God which those who practice it will not escape from, in time and sooner than they expect.
My enlightenment in this matter comes from God. All honor and glory be to The Blessed Trinity who gives us most of all, live, health and strength. Let us give God something back in genuine gratitude, praise and homage, especially in our love, compassion and mercy to one another with no exception. As the words of a religious song, “He is expecting something from us.”
Justice and Truth What is Alcapone to you?
That man shot my dog when I was growing up because it went on there property in canefield.
Tie your DOG!!
The problem with some people and their dogs, they let their dogs loose to roam around. Some of those dogs could be dangerous. You do know that trespassers will be prosecuted and you were responsible for your dog.
I reside in a country where dogs are to be on a leash and with their owners. If not and the owners are found, they will be charged.
Dogs have bitten people and owners are charged. It is the Law to keep them on a leash and not to allow them to roam the streets.
i really dont care wat day do alcapone…………if is he dat doe kill d man the tuth will cum out………………if is he dat kill him god will take control……………….but i think he should just die n finish with dat cuz u old already n cant doe ntn sooooo…………..
I was not at court but reading from one of the comments it was mentioned that blood was found in his vehicle. Is that true?
this man tried to kill me
This is the real and GAY Papa Met! I am crying for my friend Al as well as the victim here whose killer is in fact still at large. Al is a sweet gentleman, sophisticated and classy in every way. He certainly does not deserve to be locked away like some common thief or robber. This man is a man of stature and prominence, a Prince in Dominican society who should be treated with the utmost respect and dignity. Al you will be free on appeal even if I have to put up three million of my own assets to assist you in that endeavor. How dare these peasants try to convict Dominican royalty! The nerve!!!
wat kinda royalty dat u talking bout fada they should hang him chaaa
Man, people look at this guy and think, an old man, how could he do it, and all that. But knowing this man’s history, he has left many victims in his wake.
And because of his surname and family, he got away with plenty wickedness. Well it caught up to him in his old age.
Damian’s body could have been easily disposed off in the sea you know, but the body was dumped close to where his family lived to mock them.
Stand aside and let karma do its thing. I had a few encounters with this guy and it wasn’t cool. Let karma do its thing…
so if the forensic evidence was not available and there was no eye witness how the convict him?because people saw him in town at the wee hours of the morning?
you should have been in court to listen to all the evidence. then you won’t be asking this question.
his son swore on the bible and testified that he helped his dad put dorivals body in the transport,,case closed RIP Damien you were one of the most jovial people i have ever known
what the man did was wrong to kil this guy but this guy was no easy pay master he die ownin me and i want other to learn from that not every body have a good heart like me may his soul rest in peace
i hope is not u that kill him eh
Deep down within i do not think that mr.green did this crime i think i know who did it or rather should i say i know who did it however a verdict was read and he was found guilty one day the truth will come out and dominicans will be shocked mr.green you were not the best person you made countless mistakes but only god knows please take the time to make it right before you leave this earth i will pray for you to the family of the dead i am sorry for your lost but he did not do it the unsub is still out there but he will be cought in gods time you know that pino
The authorities should make an effort to get to you, so that you can say who did it! I would like them to do so ASAP.
true dat…and there is a way to find out whose computer was used to type this comment so if is private pc..well the perrson who knows can b found and questioned..if is at the cafe then it may b a bit difficult.
i lkie dat but shouldnt this be free site where u cant be tracked thought no producing or publishing of email adresses
well if u know who did it say it instead u have the man taking jail inocently
I can bet that you better watch out,because you’ll be found It’s just a matter of time, you’ll see.
Well then, it’s your fault why he is going to jail. So do the right thing.
Come on police, stop the politics and go do all you work.Remember you all went to the New Chronicle like CLOWNS, to find out who is Josh Shaw?.. Get the man/woman and have him say what he knows.
If you know who did the crime, why let an innocent man pay the price? All you have to do is remain anonymous and give the proper authorities the information. Yes, he needs your prayers and sure needs your help at this time. What if they reintroduce the death penalty and he be the first to die either by hanging or lethal injection for something he did not do, how are you going to live the rest of your life knowing that you could have saved his life?.
You should have written or typed this information and mailed it incognito. The Court listened to “hearsay” and accepted it as the Gospel truth. They should have accepted yours in likewise manner. It appeared they were out to get him.
your IP should betraced and have you give evidence saqwat sort
Thid is a setious statement by you..the police should investihate that statement and person…people should know what tgey are writing here and should be held accountable
Freedom of speech I guess.
@my thoughts..”UNSUB”? really but you just said you know who did it!! UNSUB means Unknown Subject. Wicked soul and stay with terminology you know. Un moune ka jwen asi DNO eh.
you are the worst kind of citizen. if you know for a FACT that Green did not commit the crime and you know for a FACT who did, then you had a civil responsibility to come forward rather than sit in cowardly silence and then come on DNO to bray. your actions are deplorable.
you are as guilty as mr Green,i think the police should find you and give both you and mr Green the same sentencing
be careful what you say online my thoughts it might come back to hunt you
my friend I think you should do the right thing and go give up your self to the police because if you no who did that crime and as you said ( you don’t think is was mr. green ) it must have been you
Bloody shame on you for knowing that an “allegedely” innocent man is goign to jail and has already spent so much time in jail.
Even if you think you know or you are sure you know – that information that you caim to know will be helful in some way.
you are praying for Alcapone…but i suggest you look in the mirror and start praying for youself becuase you are WICKED..if you know something that may set the man free and you are hiding it.
Why were you not a witness for Alcapone or for the State so now they would be prosecuting the correct person as indicated by yourself.
Deep down you are an idiot
alas papa! dem people not seeing how frail the old man is. mister could never do that in this condition. anyways free alcapone on appeal there are too many inconsistensies in this matter. great work ras! this jury was compromised from day one and based on the sensationalism of this case he was guilty b4 it even start
Senior Citizen? You must be one of alcapone’s senior children for you to make such a coment. Evidence was well corroborated. Alcapone planned what he was going to do to Damian, told persons of his plan, then executed it in a stupid and ridiculous fashion.
He was in good health and strength before he was remanded
wow, beheaded? what is wrong with Dominica boy
It’s not Dominica alone, it happens around the world. Just recently in Brazil, during an amateur football match a referee, after he first was stoned and beaten, was beheaded by spectators after he had stabbed a player.
I think the person meant that it is not something you expect to happen in Dominica.
Yes while we may think is not dominica alone crimes take place. You cannot compare with the population of these places with dominica. It is more crime happening in Dominica
Nothing wrong with Dominica. That was big news some years ago….where were you?
Whilst the jury did a fantastic job and returned a favorable verdict, the power of sentencing rests with the Judge. Dominica, unlike the rest of the caribbean (and BVI as a recent example) has been been very relaxed in handing down sentences for these types of heinous crimes.
I hope the Judge takes note of Justice Redhead’s precedents and deliver a sentence deservingly for this type of crime.
If the Judge fails, I suggest we as Dominicans have a right to demand better from the justice system and write to the Chief Justice in protest, asking that Justice Bernie Broooks be removed from Dominica, once and for all.
And that is my verdict.
Alcapoon looks real good
Does anyone know why he is called Alcopone.
He love guns and use them to intimidate people the name Alcopone was one of the mafia brothers who was rough and wicked
Hmmm … Why do you think? You think is because he always in church
Maybe because of the famous american gangster Al Capone
Great verdict…but just now the Mercy Committee going to jump up and say free de old man and they going to free him…just watch and see…remember I said it here first.
I wish they would. They kept him incarcerated for 5 years. Obviously, it had a bearing on his physical and mental health.
Alcapone! Your time finally reach. All the years you did wickedness to people and got away with it, you really thought you would have gotten away with this one? What is the use in society for a man who just drink red cap and talk nonsense? No use! And to all the children who came to court to support not only him, but his wicked act, I hope you all get the house and land you were giving your support for. Alcapone never study all you, now all you dere, daddy, daddy? Hypocrites! The two sons who gave truthful evidence, great is their reward that is to come. They vex they gave evidence wee. So because I am my father’s son, I should support him killing someone and cutting off their head. What child am I then? The 2 boys said they love their father very much. But he must pay for what he did. Just like God forgives us, but He will punish us for our sins. No sin goes unpunished.
“If my gun was used, it wasn’t by me,” he said in an unsworn statement . “If I had to use my gun I would declare it missing first. Somebody was probably playing with the gun and it went off. I have no right to encourage illegal things–News Article
How can a person be guilty of a crime and to so boldly deny it– like that man did–it is so hard to understand, when we were not witnesses to that person’s action.
Dear God we know that You know what happened on that day that the man Dorival was shut in the head and then beheaded as well–let fair justice be by Your Will.
Oh God You have said: “That as a man think in his heart so is he”. You are the only one who knows the heart of “Edward Alcapone Green”. We hope that this verdict against him, was by Your guidance.
And if not, oh Lord, we ask for your mercy and compassion of Love, for those of us who continue in existence with the shape of mind which continues to be your enemy, as we clings to the god of this world.
Dear God let Your vengeance be our victory; let fair justice reign against wickedness and evil, especially in that case of Edward Alcapone Green–in Jesus name Amen
What a despicable prayer line quote “Dear God let Your vengeance be our victory”I wonder what God would honor such absurdity.I’m not surprised by your jargon, very sad.
@Gary July 17, 2013
You stupid, stupid creature, along with those who are giving you the thumbs up! Why don’t you write your opinion about the message here and to leave my comment alone–you have no ability to understand my words.
I am talking about victory for either one–the people or that man, who is now labeled a criminal; I read that he declared innocence and other people here, claimed that he could not have done the crime alone.
Even with 29 witnesses the Jury still does not know for sure if he committed the crime only God knows–that is the reason when God executes His wrath one will have victory and the other will know the force of that wrath in Him.
Once again! You are really an annoying idiot–get rid of that carnal shape of mind that wills you around in society. Yhe same goes for your counterparts.
Are You talking about the same man who boldly claimed that he has not driven for 15 years. The same man that would hold up traffic under the canefield cliff driving in the middle of the road.I know for a fact that it’s not been 15 years. So if he could lie about that what else would he lie about?
I am sure those prats cone in as span or junk mail in God’s email. Doh even bother try tweeter cause both you and Truth and Justice have been blocked
You are playing God. It is a grievous/mortal sin to do so. Our Lord Jesus Christ commanded us to love. I comment on certain issues. This does not mean I hate anyone. No one will make me hate anyone. It is not in my characteristic trait.
I am not condoning murder or any other crime. However, I have to stand up to what I think is fair and what is not right to do. OK!
If only you knew? You are the one who is blocked as span or junk mail in God’s email. It takes an unloving, ungodly person to make such a remark.
I read the articles and with the help of God I provided my comments. Too bad for you if you lack godly enlightenment and you do not appreciate my comments. It does not bother me. You cannot speak for me. My conscience is clear. I have no hatred in my heart. Thanks be to God, I am at peace.
I was not with him when they stated he killed the man. He was kept 5 years incarcerated without a hearing. This was not fair to him. During that time his health deteriorated. I will not go into further details.
You who judge, God will judge you. He is listening to all what we say and do. You better be kind. One day you will meet God for your judgment. Therefore, do not judge anyone for God will judge you two-fold.
God knows who you are and what you do. At this moment you do not know where your soul will end up in eternity. Keep this in mind.
God is a God of love. He loves Green no less than you. God loves all his children, no matter what they do, no matter how much they resist him. As long as they are alive, they still have recourse to him. Ensure that you have recourse to God and that you do not reject him. Pray for Green and ask others to pray for him. God will bless you for that.
The HYPOCRICY of you- so called Christian.
Be responsible for your soul and stop call for vengence and fair justice when you do not know anything.
you are making an a of yourself by always assuming….
you guys always wanna cry for vengene against wicked people when you all are the first in line. A man died….. if Edard did it – IF..he deserves to be punished.
you do not know whether he did it or not – but to come on here and cry for wickedness for others is a shame.
how many criminals deny first? How many criminals proclaim innocence and it be proven true?
stop with this constant call for God to punish people – that’s just UGLY..and God doesn’t liek ugly – HYPOCRITE CHRISTIAN or NOT.
The carnal minds does not understand the words of God and then because they don’t they come and call persons “hypocrite Christians”. You all need to read the words for yourself.. Ask for Godly wisdom which is free .. so when you see the words written by someone else, you won’t be shocked and interpret it in your carnal state.
The foolish things of the world confuses the wise and God has designed it so.
@??????????? July 18, 2013
Thank you for that rebuke on my behalf. Let us be bold to stand up for Jesus–that is what He wants us to do. Blessings!
the big question is what was he doing at 2am out at Portersville hitch-hiking ride several police officers drove pass him .now with all of that de man a cripple man as he stated where was coming from and what was his vehicle doing at virgin lane filled with blood mr green u are as guilty as charged
mis leading at its best. if zimmerman got off for a murder he clearly committed, and alcapone was condemned by most of you people even before his trial start,,,then i not surprise for the outcome of the verdict. it would be interesting to know more about the facts of this case, the credibility of the witnesses, details on the forensics- after 5yrs- it just seems like a finger was pointed, a name was called & someone has to blame– this time its the peoples most disliked. If he guilty he guilty. take your consequence if the verdict came through hard evidence and forensics…but it sounds like a lot of people just don’t like de man- so guilty verdict was inevitable .
A family member
yes him with life in the pen
Good Job Inspector Laurent you should head the CID.I was impressed with the way you handled the recent protest at Grandbay
that my boy he always put his head in his work one of Dominica
I guess what they say about karma is true. What goes around comes around.
About how old is Mr nah! to me he looks like an 80 or so year old man we. Anyway if he did it, he has to face his punishment.
Justice not to swift but anyway sure. Hope he goes away FOREVER.
evil u evil well u shall pay.
LORD U SURELY CAME THROUGH FOR US! ALCAPONE WHILE U IN THERE ROTING REPENT AND CONFESS BEFORE UR DEATH SIR!
Hope your soul is right with God should you die today or at any time. Do not be presumptuous that you are a good person for God detests such people.
alas a man with so much wealth and property from his dad should be cruising around the globe. What a man sow so shall be reap.
well well in my days they were the high class alas. Lord have mercy on this man children.
if alcapone is found guilty his sons as his accomplice and others have to down too, this wasnt a one man job.
Guilty! Guilty! That’s an investigator`s dream word. Great job by our investigators and those involved in the court`s proceedings. Results like those should send a clear message to the would be bad guys you can run but you cant hide. I pray that the family find some resolve by this guilty verdict, I also pray that MR EDWARD “ALCAONE” GREEN make peace with the lord and ask for forgiveness he will have endless time where he is going to think of what could have been. It is always the case after the fact. Keep up the great work it makes us former detectives feel a part of it all over again. LAW and order must be maintained.
thank you lord the the wisdom you gave to the jurors to give this verdict he should die the same way he kill damien
So tomorrow we will hear he’s gotten bail
how do u get bail after a jury find you guilty?
boy our education system in Dominica has really failed us eh.
Why some of allu does just stay away from DNO comment section nuh….LOL
lmao….really??? bail after he was found guilty?
he died many times over and yrs ago. This piece of crap is/was always unfit for society and there countless others amongst us.
Well well well Alcapone will say the jury jealous of him now. Damian’s family will feel better.
Good work prosecutor. If it was locals that case lose
He studied the case, he knows how to prosecute, and he get excellent results. CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE.
Free at last! Damian is finally free and his family I am sure, can safely say, “Justice has been served.”
If only you knew what is occurring in eternity, you would not make that statement. It does not mean because a person was murdered or died a natural death that person/soul is free. You are assuming that his soul is in Heaven. It depends on the state of his soul when he left this world. I suggest you pray to God for enlightenment.
aggressive i respect your opinion but what do the politicians have to do with alcapone case let stick to the point
I agree with you, stick to the point.
Do you not know that EVERYTHING involves politics? If this case was won in a non-election arena they would find something else to say.
Justice for my darling Damian. I expected no other verdict.
Jurors took three hours to agree on a guilty verdict back home, while jurors in Florida took 15 hours to set a GUILTY man FREE. What a difference.
It appears that those jurors were in a hurry to end the case. They may not have been competent.
every time i think of this case i ask myself what kind of human being alcapone is .jury please take your time this case is a easy one to win the evidence is clear you should have no problem in bring a guilty verdict against this man please remember we all have brothers and not would want your relative to die this way that would two son come and lie to the court about their father let us be real
Thank you Jesus! The evil that men do always seem to catch up with them somehow….. God surely has a way of reminding us who is god. Hope the politicians take note….time does surely tell.
Assertive, NOT Agressive!
What politicians have to do with that?The man found guilty of his crime so he has to pay.So ALL YOU(UWPITES)just want to involve politics in everything that happens in Dominica?
you are so dumb……….. what makes u think is a UWPITES that commenting STUPES
The evil that men do lives with them. Politicians are not the only ones.
When you people call others evil, ensure that you are a godly person. For what goes around comes around and will fall on you for calling another evil. It also falls on the family, the children, the household in general and their undertakings.
God knows your heart. Do not be hypocritical. If someone kills someone he is obviously called evil but those who hate others for their faith and for nothing, they, too are evil, possessing evil hearts. So are criminals who steal and injure people. Murder from the heart, hating others is evil.
Therefore, when you use the word “evil”, think of how you stand before God. Holy Scripture will also teach you about the good and the bad including the holy.
i pray that the jury bring a guilty verdict on all count alcapone did not remember he wanted to live and so was damien he took the stand and lie to the court he when he said he have not driven for years he boasted how he was going to kill the young man and and to still want the court to set you free wicked soul
exactly!!! I agree with you!!!! he lied and said he have not driven for years when everybody has seen him driving with his bad leg. Sucker. Off to jail you shall stay!!
dah!!! we know he was guilty………………….
well they find him guilty…..
Off to JAIL you shall STAY!! G U I L T Y
“I’m on the road 24/7.” He may be in a room 24/7 too.
WHAT IS THE WORD, I AM EAGER TO KNOW.I HOPE IS LIFE IMPRISONMENT WITHOUT PAROLE.
to many nonsense
May the good Lord guide the jury..i hope they listen 2 the almighty. he knows it all.
Free Alcapone !
I strongly believe that their will be a NOT GUILTY verdict base on the evidence.
Well, I guess you were wrong
this case is misleading.. no lie
I’m what way kindly make clear
Can some one tell me what is he to the green lady ad dbs