Astaphan trashes suggestion of overseas trial in alleged inappropriate behavior matter

Astaphan said the suggestion is crazy
Astaphan said the suggestion is crazy

Senior Counsel, Anthony Astaphan, has rebutted suggestions by Opposition Leader, Lennox Linton that the recent high-profile cases of alleged inappropriate behaviour with a minor should be tried outside of Dominica’s jurisdiction.

Linton made the suggestion after documents relating to the cases were allegedly leaked and would create pre-trial prejudice.

But Astaphan said on state-owned DBS Radio, that the idea is crazy because according to Dominica’s constitution, the persons on trial must be judged by a jury of their peers.

“I mean, who’s going to select the jurors overseas — the DPP, the Defence Counsel? On what basis are we going to select persons — by their surnames, their first name, by their last name? By what? And how do St. Lucians, or Vincentians, or Grenadians become our peers?” he asked. “Because the Constitutional Law requires us to be judged by our peers. And, secondly, you going to take the court out of Dominica and put it somewhere else?”

Astaphan referred to the notion as “crazy,” and said that the recent leaking of documents is not sufficient grounds to stop a trial on the premise of pre-trial prejudice, adding that Dominican jurors are apt for the task.

“It’s crazy…Jurors on the jury have sufficient common sense, decency, honesty, and [objectivity] to make a rational decision,” he stated. “But what I find quite shocking is that I have said repeatedly that what has transpired does not reach the threshold required for pre-trial prejudice to stop a trial.”

Meantime, Astaphan revealed his suspicion that members and supporters of the United Workers’ Party are responsible for the circulation of the legal documents in question. This, he believes, was done in an effort to force a member, allegedly linked to a case of inappropriate behaviour with a minor, to resign from his position.

“And that has been coming from the quarters and supporters of the United Workers Party because statements have been published on the internet, in a manner that is calculated to absolutely damage irreparably, the reputation of this young lady, who is already suffering, solely as a means of trying to force [defendant] to resign,” he stated. “That’s the consequence of a corrupt, dishonest political motive…”

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75 Comments

  1. Think for YOURSELF
    July 19, 2018

    Once again Tony accusing UWP of circulating undisclosed documents…… but Tony wasn’t it you and Skerrit that had disclosed confidential documents about Skerrit and then pinned it on Lennox….. and only after an investigated was done and suspicious raised, Skerrit came out to say he gave you permission to disclose said documents. YOU SEE YOU THAT TONY ASTAPHAN THERE

  2. Me
    March 26, 2016

    Just apply your “doctrine of necessity” Mr. Astaphan. After all, you invented it!!!

  3. Ron Abraham.
    March 25, 2016

    I wish to be informed by Mr Astaphan of a point he is reputed to have said on DBS radio ” according to Dominica’s constitution, the persons on trial must be judged by a jury of their peers”.

    While I concur that it is a principle of law in UK.

    I wish to know where exactly is this stated in the ” Dominica’s constitution” as I read it carefully and was not able to see where it is mentioned.

    I would be very thankful to learn that.

  4. let my people gooooo
    March 24, 2016

    Toneyyy what is wrong with u?I will say nothing last forever u will live Dominica and it people rise the time will come oh yes.

  5. mosquito 1
    March 24, 2016

    Hi Mr Tony Astaphan, we love it when you keep the pressure on the desparrdoes and renegades of Dominica keep the good work going thank you, UK Dominican.

  6. charles
    March 24, 2016

    the reason I agree with mr linton idea is that …we all know that justice will not prevail in this case especially when these big boys are involve

  7. jazz53
    March 24, 2016

    It looks like if Mr Linton is giving food to the poor, some people would say its tainted.

  8. Viewsexpressed
    March 24, 2016

    We must never get our minds trap in a myopic way of thinking especially when people like this Astaphan is starving to comment on credible thinking coming from Hon. Linton.
    Hon Linton is correct in his suggestion, proposal, whatever one wishes to call it.
    Ideas evolve, laws are amended albeit as a result of events and circumstances. As the law is now this suggestion by Hon Linton is not possible and Linton knows this. He is a clever thinker. It is because he knows it that he raised this suggestion, which is: why don’t our supreme EC Court, amends the current law to accommodate eventualities as this. Once a law is passed, it is passed and then operational. But now it is not so. So Hon Linton did not asked that what he therefore propose to be law or could be enacted now in our EC Court. Linton knows better.
    Astaphan takes advantage of anything & makes noise because he likes to be heard to put good ideas down. Years down the line, trust me the laws will be amended. And we say Thanks…

  9. bigger
    March 24, 2016

    I read that someone suggested that Tony Astaphan dislikes Lennox if that is true why would the first person Lennox phoned when he was DEPORTED from Antigua was Tony. There are many lawyers supporting the UWP so you can give him credit for hiring the BEST

    • Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
      March 24, 2016

      Who told you that guy? If they are friends now, that to me is a very strange friendship, that is similar to Judas been the one who carried the purse with all of Jesus money, and then betrayed Jesus.

      Now I know there was a time when Lennox, and Tony were best of friends; and I don’t need anybody to ask me how that! I know, but I boy here doh talking eh!

      Nonetheless; I doubt if my friend would cost me many thousands of dollars I do not have, I doubt one could call that friendship, if my friend said he is planing a preemptive strike against me, I doubt I would call that friendship, oui!

      Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha.

      I doh getting in politician ting eh, cause Savarin start civil a war in Dominica, which ended when they ensured the sent Patrick John to jail. Last month or there about we saw the man who caused John to go to jail standing with his hypocritical face over John in the hospital!

      So, I Francisco doh know eh!

      • Original Mahaut Man
        March 25, 2016

        This is politics .We are the ones hating each other but tomorrow they can be on the same party.So relax mr. who know’s it all.

  10. Titiwi
    March 24, 2016

    The abbreviation SC has many meanings. Senile Cataract, Second Class, Special Constable, Spooky Child and Chattering Chamber are but a few examples. My favourite would have to be Semantic Compaction.

    • viewsexpressed
      March 25, 2016

      Nice….I like this…I really like this…..I really, really like this…..

  11. Me
    March 24, 2016

    Tony, the case between Pinard Byrne and Linton was heard and judged in London of all places and Pinard Byrne won. Do you support that?

    • mosquito 1
      March 24, 2016

      Me,Yes to you i support it Lennox Linton was the one who asked for the case to be held in London UK and to you Me, please do your research before you start writing crap ,Linton would have lost this court case any where in the world stop your rubbish !

    • Disappointed
      March 25, 2016

      This was an appeal and not a trial in the strict sense of the word

    • Original Mahaut Man
      March 25, 2016

      That was the appeal by the privy council .think before you write.

    • Original Mahaut Man
      March 25, 2016

      This was the appeal of the case by the privy council.

  12. tj
    March 24, 2016

    Maybe it is time to start dragging Tony to courtn, since he is the only one in DA that knows the constitution.

  13. Dominican
    March 24, 2016

    But you reside in Florida, but still manage to rule, conquer and divide Dominica.

  14. Doc. Love
    March 23, 2016

    Tony once said publicly that he had eaten something and as a result he was going mad. We all took his confession for a joke. Maybe, the man was serious. For Tony to publicly say that members and supporters of the UWP were responsible for the circulation of the legal documents in question was done to force a member allegedly linked to the case to resign from his position, is boarding on madness or stupidity. Whatever he ate appears to be having its effect on him. A few days ago he told DNO that the leaking of the documents holds no gain to parties involved in the matter. Tony must have heard Mr. Brian Alleye’s comments on radio and DNO when he said, “it may cause one or two innocent persons to be convicted or two guilty persons to be exonerated because vital evidence is undermined. ” Like I said previously, the man should have a meeting with Doc. Benjemin or maybe he knows something that we don’t know, in term of who will be convicted or who will be exonerated.

  15. I doh like hungry gut people
    March 23, 2016

    In my opinion all mista does do is spread propaganda for the benefit of Labour Party. Why he doh go and give some donation to Grotto Home or somewhere, garcon do something responsible in the country for once, u just dere blajaying to milk cow.

    Your suggestion about UWP is also crazy, u ever see anyone stone down their own mango tree? Who stands to lose if Joshua is taken out and who stands to gain. Allu really think allu propaganda will work all de time? Fire bun allu.

    Everyone knows is labour that stands to gain if Joshua is no more in the political arena so stop talking nonsense. UWP is more likely to loose their seat. And besides it was always Joshua’s turn to lead after Lennox, after allu recently spread allu propaganda about UWP leadership, election was held and the results were the same. So Tony stop your divisive propaganda.

    Allu tried that propaganda a first time, the UWP had elections, allu failed. Allu coming back again…….Allu too wicked.

  16. Face the Facts
    March 23, 2016

    I do not see the necessity for the case to be heard in another country. It does not make sense. It occurred in D/ca and should be heard there.
    Simply hear the case in Dominica. Ask both sides the appropriate questions pertaining to the case. They must respond. Note the answers. From thereon will be the verdict.
    I cannot understand this. So-called minors, teenagers willfully dressed in such a manner for a date, attended that date and they are considered innocent and in this matter. Anyway, how did they meet the men? A lot of questions must be answered on both sides.

    • Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
      March 24, 2016

      Facts, when people are dealing with a judicial system where politics takes precedence over the rule of law, one has to be skeptical. In Dominica cases to are not won or lost based on the truth of the matter, of right and wrong.

      Cases are decided on which lawyer is favored best, the lawyer more closely associated with the political regime always win. The lawyer capable of getting more private meetings with the magistrates, and judge who actually decides the case prior to a hearing in open court, are usually the winner.

      In Dominica, the lawyers who dressed on deeper red, and bow very low and kiss the behind of the devil, the case is usually decides in his/her favor. If it is legal to the case out into the Caribbean Community one may get a much fairer verdict. If you look at all of the traveling passports in the Caribbean these days You see “CC” that means we are one people, therefore, it must be legal to select another venue in the region to hers the case.

    • Viewsexpressed
      March 24, 2016

      In principle there is nothing wrong in havig the case heard in another island. We appeal cases heard within the Caribbean and we go as far as UK to Privy Council, so what`s the matter with Lennox`s suggestion. It is a good one and one on merit too.
      Well Done Hon Linton

      • Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
        March 24, 2016

        “We appeal cases heard within the Caribbean and we go as far as UK to Privy Council”

        Yes, and make it claire that even when Skerrit, decides to remove Dominica from the jurisdiction of the British Privy Council; and long after Dominica became part of the CC; they continued a case against Lennox Linton, in England, and accepted a basis ruling against him, which cost him thousands of dollars.

        If that can happen; why can’t a Dominica case be heard within the Caribbean Community which we now boast. And by the way, Skerrit paid money to a Jamaican thug, who came to Dominica and broke our immigration laws after he was deported!

        Can anyone tell me where the case was heard, and judgement rendered, which caused Skerrit to pay the culprit? Was the case heard in Dominica or Jamaica, or on another Caribbean island? So you see the mess, and the damn joke our country has become?

        Thanks to the good people of Dominica who pooled their resources together, and pay the money to the…

      • Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
        March 24, 2016

        Thanks to the good people of Dominica who pooled their resources together, and pay the money to the blood sucking hungry wild dogs who want to suck all of Lennox blood!

        I’m sorry he could not have laced his blood with acid, so that when they suck it, they got their lips burnt off, leaving them with their teeth exposed like that of a dead roast dog!

  17. Shameless
    March 23, 2016

    And the spinster has struck again. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: . Tony really believe Dominicans are Idiots eh! Just to remind Tony the real concern is how the statement left the police computer not who got it on their phones.

    Always Assertive! :twisted:

    • Punjab
      March 24, 2016

      So what you trying to say, is Labourites alone that are Police Officers and working in Police Headquarters?
      That is what Tony said in essence, it is a calculated move to force somebody out. Get it! And I believe he is right. The haters will do everything to destabilize the system and to hold on to power. Get it!!

      • Viewsexpressed
        March 24, 2016

        Punjab, our legal system is NOT restricted to Dominica but the EC Court which sits in any island to hear cases and the Privy Counsel in the UK

    • Face the Facts
      March 24, 2016

      People hack even government agencies in big countries and compromise their confidential information.
      Canada Revenue Agency income tax system was hacked a few years ago.
      Recently US RIS was hacked.
      Dominica of all? No one should be surprised. It depends on the type of system. Some are easy to be hacked and/or accessed especially when people are aware that certain confidential information is stored in them.
      How do you know that this occurred right from Dominica?
      The Police records must be better stored in a proper computer system with proper security. Probably it could be safer.
      When too many people handle sensitive information this could easily occur.
      Remember the disappearance of the Court House/Registry keys which was at the police station? What was stolen from that office?
      Remember the masked men who went into the DPP’s office and stole files? We have not heard a thing further.
      The information released should not surprise you.

  18. March 23, 2016

    tony because it is not you who thought of this idea you are playing hater but though this idea might be unconstitutional, it is not impossible or far fetch.. one day this very idea is going to become a necessity and a reality . do not forget about the doctrine of necessity.

  19. cassie
    March 23, 2016

    Allu want to squash it locally. Drag it until it is thrown out. Wicked people.

    • Face the Facts
      March 24, 2016

      Better than if a hurricane, storm or earthquake occurred to completely destroy the information. They will not be able to retrieve it.

  20. where there's a will, there's got to be a way
    March 23, 2016

    Change the law in one sitting, as you did the other day.

  21. mankindedness
    March 23, 2016

    He is USA Citizen and according to their laws the trial can and could take place there.
    Still correct me if I am wrong .

  22. LifeandDeath
    March 23, 2016

    Hahaha..Ebeh Weh..Tony pas feb..see the spin Mr put on that wi..
    That is what you all plan behind closed doors..no surprise you coming to say that now..another ploy to break the UWP opposition..
    And all of a sudden Lucians and Antiguans aren’t our peers..are you telling me that the Courts allow Jurors sit on the cases of defendants whom they know ?…Tony is the legal scholar so I’m only asking..

    • Punjab
      March 24, 2016

      U mean our people are dumber than other countries that we cannot effectively handle a case? Do they come to our jurisdiction with their cases for corruption? They keeping theirs for themselves and the whole world must know about ours. Mark u I am not condoning wrong, just putting things in perspective.

  23. Me
    March 23, 2016

    The trashmaster has spoken. Amen.

  24. looking
    March 23, 2016

    If things don’t change here quickly, everything is going to blow up

    • Face the Facts
      March 24, 2016

      You want to bet it will not? :lol: :lol: :lol:

  25. Doc. Love
    March 23, 2016

    It is unfortunate the Tony has never never agreed with anything Mr. Linton has to say or even suggested. What is more crazy when Skeritt said that no law no constitution can prevent him from doing that he wants. The man has a political dislike for Mr. Linton to the extent that wherever and whenever Mr. Linton would open his mouth, as far as he is concerned, he is either crazy or stupid or dumb, or like Skeritt would say, this man needs to go back to school. Therefore the criticisms or objections to what Linton has to say is nothing new. That is Tony’s shark like attitude once Linton is involved.

    • A Doubting Thomas In Solidarity
      March 24, 2016

      Doc Love I keep hearing UWP supporters echoing that no law or constitution all the time. Can you tell us which law and which constitution that was in Dominica at the time that could have prevented the PM from participating in the elections?

      If I recall that was all he referred to and not what the UWP have conned eg, “What is more crazy when Skeritt said that no law no constitution can prevent him from doing that he wants” Doc Love . How sad, Dr. Love. The more you quote it incorrectly, the more we see that the UWP has no idea what the laws of Dominica are and if they know nothing about our laws even after all these years, what exactly are they telling us?

      Will they ever be ready to be a government again? Obviously the fact they only were able to remain 4 and 1/2 years in comparison to three terms of the DFP and four terms of the DLP and a term is 5 years. Do you think the UWP know the Laws? At least both the DFP and DLP learnt the laws.

      • Doc. Love
        March 24, 2016

        Skeritt made the statement, you ask him what law was he referring to. Whether UWP wins an election or not, this statement will hunt him as long as he lives. You or Tony or Aaron, or Mcintime Douglas or Cleville or Rupert or Volney or Ferrol or all the Laborites in the world can never erase the statement from the history books of Dominica.

  26. March 23, 2016

    This time give Jack his jacket ,I fully agree with you even though you are the most hated man in the judicial system in Dominica …it would be unjust to any man who have committed a crime in one country to be sent in any other country to be judged.Why is it necessary to have a court house in Dominica. Mr.Linton ,my question is for you,if disturbing in an office was illegal would you agree that your brother should be tried in a court of law overseas? I am certain that your answer would be no.We must step up in Dominica,what image are we giving to the foreigners living in Dominica or overseas?Is the gov’t going to pay for the children , their family to travel and all other fees?I do not support any political party at the moment Mr. Linton but I suggest , that you call on the public to make a general strike if they want to of course, or you let Skerrit continue to rule the country in this mess untill another election because this time your advice is stupid..

    • viewsexpressed
      March 24, 2016

      Barry, please go read, research, get a higher horse, and explore what Hon Linton says and please do not use Astaphan as a reference he is just braying garbage and full of fear and hate.
      Go do research yourself, go talk to legal luminaries, get some decency in thinking for yourself and explore the possibilities of what Hon Linton says.
      Rise above Astaphan and the DLP jokers…..they are laughing at you.

  27. Frank Talker
    March 23, 2016

    The word “peer” is now jurisdictional? Tony, can a Dominican have a “peer’ in another country? In case you did not know, Tony, the word “peer” is not of legal origin. It was not coined in the Courtroom or at law school nor was it created to explain a legal construct. It is of Latin origin, “par”, meaning “equal”. So, here’s the question, Tony: Can a Dominican have an equal in another jurisdiction?

    • Gary
      March 26, 2016

      Your comment can be described as mumbo jumbo jargon.The word peer has a definition in Blacks Dictionary. Have you not heard the phase “trial by a jury of his peers”

  28. ISIS
    March 23, 2016

    This proves that the leader of the opposition has no idea of the island’s constitution.

    #timeforlintontogo

    • %
      March 23, 2016

      Do we have a constitution?I really thought your God Skerrit had done away with it!!!

    • Tjebe Fort
      March 24, 2016

      No wonder you call yourself ISIS. Enough said.

  29. calibishie boy
    March 23, 2016

    Tony stop talking finish, only labourite who Will believe you

  30. Observer
    March 23, 2016

    Wow..Mr. Astaphan..what a “suspicion”!! Then you go on to say “That’s the consequence of a corrupt, dishonest political motive…”? I wonder what you would say if this statement come from the other side to your boys in power. I believe you are trying to distract people from the real problem of the leak. And by the way I am no lawyer, but are there not cases that are tried oversea, CCJ etc. Man make laws, and can change laws. So why the overseas trial may be go against the law, can’t that law change in hope of seeking impartial jury, as I think is the intention of Linton? I am not saying whether I support this or not, but I am just asking you lawyers.

  31. Gray
    March 23, 2016

    I don’t know about you but I am just tired of this guy. It

    • indira Ghandi
      March 23, 2016

      I am sooooooooooooooo sick of him.

    • Me
      March 24, 2016

      I agree, he is long past his BBE date.

  32. O Lord our God of Heaven and Earth, out of the depths of darkness we call out to You. Let Your ears be attentive to the voice of our supplications

    Lord God, we in Dominica need peace; we need harmony; we need Your rest–all of which is from Love, the Life which You desire for us to live.

    Dear God reach out to us and touch our hearts as You our lips to speaks the words which You want from us–that You might show us Your mercy and compassion.

    We acknowledge O Heavenly Father, that You have always been our help; You are our hope for Life in the future; we rely on You to be our shelter through those stormy blast. Grant it our God that we do not have to ask: “Where do we go from her e”

    In the name of Christ Jesus, Your Person of flesh and bones, I present this petition to You, on behalf of fellow Dominicans, who are now suffering the daily distresses which come to steal, kill and destroy. Amen!

  33. Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
    March 23, 2016

    “Because the Constitutional Law requires us to be judged by our peers. And, secondly, you going to take the court out of Dominica and put it somewhere else?”

    If I ever read confusion, or anything confusing it is this one! In places like the United States, where similar circumstances exists, lawyers usually ask for a change of venue; so summing that something occurs in Los Angeles, and one lawyer believes they cannot get an impartial jury in Los Angles, they may even suggest a change of jurisdiction, to take the case a thousand miles away from Los Angeles.

    Unfortunately Dominica is only 305 square miles: everybody has heard about the case by now, and it might be impossible to get a jury who’s mind is not already prejudiced. The fact is if our supreme court the CCJ and all, and I understand another in St. Kitts or where, Dominica cases has already been heard there, I don’t think that Lennox idea is all that wrong!

    This might be a first, which might set a precedence for the…

    • Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
      March 23, 2016

      Continuation:

      This might be a first, which might set a precedence for the future! The word peers is not a big deal actually; it is a legal term which simply means; one that is of equal standing with another, or belonging to the same society group, based on age, or status.

      How much higher, or lower are any one else in the Caribbean to a Dominican?

  34. Gwo Jel
    March 23, 2016

    why mr doesn’t shut up nuh?

  35. Mass man
    March 23, 2016

    Astaphan makes no sense. Why would UWP supporters want to prejudice the case to force a member to resign. If the UWP wanted a member to resign it is better to let the case take its course and let the member remain tangled in the judicial mess.

  36. oh Yes
    March 23, 2016

    What a commess
    What a confusion
    What a conflict
    What a case
    What a cancer
    What a comedy
    What a country
    What a crime
    What a character
    What a catastrophe
    Oh boy!!

  37. Nana
    March 23, 2016

    In total agreement with Mr Linton. That is the only way to ensure the trials are fair and just for the victims.

    Instead of Mr Astaphan accusing UWP of wrong doings, without any proof, why does he not encourage the Government/Police to trace the source of the leak.

    • Punjab
      March 24, 2016

      So he has to publish that he has encouraged the gov to trace the source of the leak? Yap Yap Yap. Useless Yapping

  38. Tarish in gwada
    March 23, 2016

    nigga shut the spoon up

  39. peaceful
    March 23, 2016

    “Meantime, Astaphan revealed his suspicion that members and supporters of the United Workers’ Party are responsible for the circulation of the legal documents in question. This, he believes, was done in an effort to force a member, allegedly linked to a case of inappropriate behaviour with a minor, to resign from his position.

    “And that has been coming from the quarters and supporters of the United Workers Party because statements have been published on the internet, in a manner that is calculated to absolutely damage irreparably, the reputation of this young lady, who is already suffering, solely as a means of trying to force [defendant] to resign,” he stated. “That’s the consequence of a corrupt, dishonest political motive…” Tony Astaphans I do not normally pay attention to your words but that section of your article is VERY TRUE.

    • Punjab
      March 24, 2016

      We think alike here….

  40. peaceful
    March 23, 2016

    Only a dumb man bubbles foam from his mouth without research…..leadership…hmm questionable

  41. Shame
    March 23, 2016

    hahahaahhaha I can’t beleive this man’s statements even qualifies as “news.” So on one hand, you have the head of police saying this was a serious offence, you have Minister Austrie saying the same, but suddenly when a solution is suggested, this is no longer that big of a deal! hahahahahaha

    And, what is the definition of peers? We have a common OECS high court, we talk about regional integration, but now our people in the OECS are suddenly so very different from us that even with the same legal codes, with regional cases cited in deciding on decisions, we still cannot be considered “peers.”

    Keep it up Astaphan. I can’t blame you! If people are truly that stupid they’ll believe this nonsense then by all means fool dem self!

  42. sousay sel
    March 23, 2016

    Sorry Linton but i do not support you on this one…there’s no way possible the guys could be tried in a different jurisdiction….and please please select jurors who have common sense cause not all do…..i served as a juror in a particular case,,,and after the case was heard there were some who came up with all sorts of things which had nothing to do with the evidence presented..its a fact that not all jurors can comprehend the judges instruction….

  43. Ras B
    March 23, 2016

    Why would DNO publish this statement from Tony Astaphans who bases his statement on hear say with out an iota of evidence?

    Though I agree that Linton’s statement that the trial be conducted outside of Dominica is silly and does not seem to have been thought through in terms of its implications for law and Justice in D/ca in high profile cases. But for Tony then to suggest without evidence that the leak was done by the UWP weakens the value of his statement.

    Most jurors will attend a case with preconcieved notions, in Dominica with its population of only about 70,000, this however, hopefully is pushed to the recesses of their minds whilst their decision is based on the evidence with which they are presented at the hearing!!! I hope!!!!!

  44. Dawn of Justice
    March 23, 2016

    U can do what u want Lennox Linton will be prime minister of Dominica cause skerrit throw it away………..
    So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

    • Me
      March 23, 2016

      ok we waiting for cock to grow teeth on that one

    • Punjab
      March 24, 2016

      If that day reach he will walk on allyu with his buttocks high in the air. Vote for him, he will and it is then he will say that he doesn’t know you so he won’t greet you. Be careful what you wish for.

      • Onlooker
        March 24, 2016

        Jalou you Jalou the man.

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