Two gay men from Eastern Shore Lane in Southern California, Dennis Jay Mayer and John Robert Hart who pleaded guilty to the charge of “Indecent Exposure” were scheduled to leave the island on Thursday, after paying a fine of EC$2,400.00 each.
The court heard that the men were seen on the balcony of the cruise ship, Celebrity X Cruises, naked, fondling each other.
Hart, a retired police officer and Mayer a personal assistant real estate agent told the court, ”We are sorry for what happened, we regret the incident and humbly apologize to the people of Dominica.”
When approached by the police about the incident, Hart said, “We were naked on the balcony but we were not having sex.” Mayer’s explanation was, “I’m not involved….but was slightly undressed on my balcony.”
In mitigation, defense lawyer Bernadette Lambert told the court that her clients regretted the incident and never intended to offend the laws of Dominica.
“They were struck by the beautiful mountains, clear fresh water and beauty of the island and they also had a few cock-tails and so threw caution to the wind. They came here for a good time and did not mean to offend the laws of the country,” she said.
She told the court that both men were of good character and they had fully co-operated with the police and begged for a non-custodial sentence. “They are extremely remorseful,” she said.
Both men then apologized to the court for their actions but were told by Chief Magistrate Evelina Baptiste that they had behaved like “rogues and vagabonds.”
These men did nothing wrong. They were on a balcony that probably had solid wall balcony. What was the creep doing looking up there anyways. What is he a peeping tom? Big deal so they may have been naked. Adam and Eve were naked. Get over your stupid selves and go back to your evil ways of gangbanging and drug dealing. All you ignorant people are not stating facts in your disgusting comments towards gays. You are only stating an opinion that happens to be wrong! hell with you all there is no way in hell that you are better than this college educated, law abiding faggot American. I hope you all die from a tidal wave.
d should never do this .Jesus don’t like dat
D should nerver do this . jesus do like this
…what is “EC” when they were fined “EC$2400”. doesn’t it spells EASY?
I FIND THAT THE LAW WAS NOT HARD ENOUGH WITH THOSE VAGABONDS. IN THEIR COUNTRY , STRANGERS RESPECK THEIR LAWS , SO THEY HAVE TO DO THE SAME WHEN THEY COIME TO D A,..I FIND THAT THE FINE WAS A PAT ON THE SHOULDERS.THEY DESERVED A HARDER PUNISHMENT SO THAT THEY WILL UNDERSTAND THAT gOD DID NOT CREAT A MAN FOR A MAN.THEY JUST LOVE TO DIG PITT TOILET…
I’d blame the cruise ship and the travel agent for not informing the parties of Dominica’s laws.
Your comments goes to show that you should be stoned for ignorance and intolerance.
and what will the country do with the fines collected, is there any project in the country that needs funding to prevent people from violating such law? i think something like this deserves a warning or a little understanding…. hey how often does it happen?…. what is that EC on EC$2,400 fines again?
Good stuff to know, but i am more concern how does this type of events affect tourism.
Honestly, after this event, how likely are you considering Dominica for your next vacation based on your knowledge of their law, how the locals feel about you and your personal interests, and other laws which might affect the way you would spend your times on the country which you are not aware of.
Type “A” if Dominica is on top of your list for your next trip or “Z” as the last destination to consider. Thanks for your input and enjoy!
Well, at first I thought there were reasonable responses to what happened. But now, after reading of the way those two men were treated, no way will I, nor any of my straight friends or relatives be going to that disastrous place called Dominica.
As a past cruiser on Atlantis cruises, the problem I see with this incident is:
1. Who is this witness?
2. How far away was he?
3. Are there any corrabarating witnesses?
4. Are there any photos or videos of the incident?
5. If indeed there was indecent behavior occurring on a ship’s balcony; are we sure this witness from a distance, from the outside of this ship identify the exact cabin?
From the actions of the police, captain of the ship, owner of Atlantis (Rich Campbell), the Magistrate, the citizens of Dominica, and most of the posters in this blog – one unidentified witness can successfully make a charge of buggery/indecent exposure against the word of two other individuals and have his word held out as God!
There is no question, Dominica (especially the dock workers) were aware of the gay passengers’ arrival.
Without questioning the accuser, how can anyone be certain he saw these two passengers, or the accuser is not a homophobic bible thumping religious conservative zealot?
Missing from this entire unfortunate incident is – the accuser! I for one will never take the word of an unidentified, unquestioned, unconfronted and cowardly “witness!”
when we go to your country we respect your laws..when you come to mines, respect ours, we don’t discriminate against gay, but they were doing it in public…..come on!
the gay people dont spend money they can be very cheap.if the guy ship dont come to dominica ,dominica dont loose any thing only the port service that makes the money
@ Jane
Do they or other tourist really spend a lot of money in Dominica? They only come to visit the island and their beauty. This is as far as they go. The Minister of Tourist and the Tourist Board should take note of this.
Most of the people here are running away from the main issue.The prosecution of these men had nothing to do with thie sexual orientation. The facts is just plain and simple,they broke the law with their lewd behavior in public,and paid the price,and at the same time learn their lesson.If it was in the USA they were displaying the same act in public,they would be arrested. So on both sides of the issue stop the damn gay issue,because this is not about being Gay.
I am not a lawyerbut it seems to me that a precedent has been set. therefore next time carnival is here, can i call the police to reoport seeing people having sex in brosd view of everyhone who jus look the other way and say oh is carnival man oh sacway hypocrites zor yeah
do it in your room
Plus homosexual sex is disgusting. It makes your skin crawl. They should pay a higher fine and longer jailtime than heterosexuals.
Comment taken from KTLA (California local news were those men are form)
http://discussions.ktla.com/20/ktla2/ktla-two-men-arrested-in-dominica/10
read the kix them man own people making about them LOL
THE WORLD is so sinful and sick the big countries like AMERICA LONDON AND FRANCE makes it legal for a man to married a nother man yet they say in GOD we put all our trust.NOW i think our leadders should legalized that wich is not sinful in the sight of GOD.
i am a dominican and i am certainly not up to you all nasty behaviours:you all are negatively influencing the youths:jehovah made a man for a woman and a woman for a man so please be a dare and keep it to yourselves.
You know, “Every man to his own order”. This is not about what you display in public it’s about being gay, being different. If two ordinary citizens walk down the street, they are in love, and starts kissing each other, would they be breaking the law too? A man is entitled to his own beliefs and interpretation inspite of what the bible says, according to your interpretarion. God is his judge, not man.
What happen, you guys have not realised that the guys did not give any trouble? They have paid the cost and is leaving your island peacefully. Why are you trying to crucify them. You allowed the ship to dock, you knew who was on the ship but you wanted numbers for your tourism and the money that they can spend on your island, so you accepted them. How can you accept them and not their ways . . . ?
Look- I have been to dominica. I am an open gay man. I would never- EVER in a million years walk out on a balcony in a foreign Naked. or in an attempt to touch my partner. Secondly they were on an all gay cruise. There is bound to be critism. Thirdly, the tour guides in Dominica are not stupid- they knew my story and treated me with the respect that I treated them. I compensated them wll for their tour, special treatment and safety they provided me while traveling through that gorgeous country. While I think your laws are archaic, and completely obsurd. I agree that any sexual contact like that made in public is completely unacceptable no matter what your orientation is. I hope that some day your laws will change for the better with gays and lesbians so that everyone can live harmoniously. BUT- It is up to the TRAVELER to know the laws of the foreign country that you are visiting. I have traveled to Jamaica, and Barbados. I dont live a closted lifestyle when I am there. However, I do not make myself obvious, I respect the laws for the short time I am there and enjoy the beauty the country has to offer me. It is ignorant as an American to expect other country laws to bow down to what we believe is socially acceptable. I would have been appauled at their behavior. Another reason why I dont go on gay cruises and never will. Its actions by gays like this that give the rest of us a bad name.
meant to say- Walk out naked on a balcony in a foreign country. Hell- I dont walk around naked in my own House.
Well said. Dominica will never get to that stage of accepingt public diaplay of affection by gays for we are a small country whose structure is built on the bible. Though I do not have a problem with gays this behavior is unacceptable not matter the sexual orientation
@ Marc
There is no exultation in being homosexual. You already have a bad name. You are homosexual, having a relationship between another man which God did not ordain and frowns upon for it an abomination and offends Him. Repent and live a holy life and an exemplary one.
Well Said. I am a Dominican living in the US VI. The vi culture is different from the main land and to many tike I see those behavior. That is not gay issue or gay discrimination, it is individual stupidity.
haha lol
that gay thing is tight i use to look at woman when i was young and i mean beautiful women and its all in the brain and mind gay comes fr but am not gay and i dont look at women like that again still them people pay their hard earn money to take their cruise and to do what they want on their cruise so why bother with them doing their thing let them live their live if they have to be punish let god deal with them and is not gay alone that isd a sin sleeping with people husband is a sin and sex before marriage is also a sin happy gaying you all but next time when you come to dominica stay indoor in the cabin you pay for bon chance
May God bless you richly Chief Magistrate Evelina Baptiste. All good laws are from God and to uphold the Law brings blessings to your nation. Resist the world and especially the Sodomites and God will reward you with blessings overflowing.
Major Ray Salas
U.S. Marine Corps, Retired
Miami
May God bless you richly Chief Magistrate Evelina Baptiste. All good laws are from God and to uphold the Law brings blessings to your nation. Resist the world and especially the Sodomites and God will reward you with blessings overflowing.
Major Ray Salas
U.S. Marine Corps, Retired
Miami
DUDE – you are total mess. People like you are the reason there is a MESS in the USA. Keep your religion to yourself. Your comment is as foul as me saying it is ashame you didn’t serve a tour of duty in Iraq and DIE.
Bitch Pleeeeze
JMG because you have never heard of Dominica don’t be stupid enough to say no one in the US has ever heard of Dominica. Whether not even a fly from the US has heard of us we will still survive so get a life and stop trying to intimidate. We will not be intimidated.
Isn’t this just a case of “Dominicans too fast and don’t like to mind their business”??
This “act of fondling” maybe lasted less than five minutes. But someone had to see cause they could not stay at their home and do their chores.
By the time the news reach to me , I was given the impression that this men where involved in hard core gay porn on the “BAYFRONT”. That’s just to show that sometimes we like to make something more than it is.
So if it was a man and woman engaged in having sex, they would go and say the even see the color of the woman’s Virgina.
Everyone knew it was a “Gay” boat in port but it was as if, some persons were waiting to see something like that happen.
If Dominica claim to not be Anti-Gay and only charged the men with indecent exposure why all the hype…. like I said before at the end of the day………It’s God who is the judge!!!
jah burn down sadom and gomaro
@ Chris
It is disrespectful and they deserved to be punished. Too bad you lack this enlightenment.
TO DNO ADMIN: It’s time to take this story off your site, i’m saturated with that story right now
@ Amazing face
You have the prerogative not to access it. Who are you to dictate to DNO? You are only one in a thousand if not a million readers. Have respect and keep your views to yourself.
Gay/Straight or whatever the point is what kind of idiot has sex in public ? As drunk as I have been in my life I dont ever remember turning to my gf/wife and saying “HEY lets drop our pants and go at it!”
your loss.
what kind of idiot? I ll tell you. those in that popular band at carnival time whose members are supposedly from the upper echelon of society in dominica. it s oke for them to have sex in broad daylight and not get arrested.. sacway hypocrite
When in Rome, do as the Romans do. When in Dominica, do as the Dominicans do. This isn’t a discrimination issue, and as one post pointed out, it’s not even news. It’s a matter of respecting the laws of another country, whether one agrees with them or not.
Hey, its their country, their laws, when we travel, were suppose to honor their laws. Simple.Now they were not peeking into the mens bedroom, these 2 no class men were indecent and knew it, throw the book at them. Just because your gay , does not mean you have no class, or respect for the others that had to see them having sex,that is disgusting!
I was onboard the ship when they got arrested, Let me clear your minds. They did not get arrested for being gay,It was the passangers who reported them.They were having sex in the balcony. Having SEX in the view of public is against the law, Not only there but everywhere. They got arrested for public indecency. I don’t feel sorry for them,They giving gays a bad name.
gay is a bad name
You need to speed to the medias in the US to clarify this.
Why are the women of your small country so fat?
Why are the women of your country so obese?
RUBEN
maybe its because there is lots of food to eat. This country is small but it has 365 Rivers and and it has the highest density of farmers per sq area in the caribbean.
RUEBEN lol they are trying to copy the American Culture where obesity is a big problem that you guys are trying to tackle and by the way lets not stray from the issue at hand Saqway Sodomite !
LOL REUBEN IN AMERICA SMDH I SEE THEY USED A FOLKLIFT TO LIFT UP AN AMERICAN WOMAN SHE WAS SO FAT LIKE 600-LBS
I am shocked to see how some Dominican women have gotten so fat>>>> back in the 80s and 90s women were never that fat. I guess it is the KFC and Pizza hot. they have forgotten the fig, dasheen etc. Everythin is now fried this and that. And they take the bus back and forth to go to the city when they can walk. SMH
just like ur big head ruben takr a look at ur head
WOW! Dominica even reach on BOSSIP.COM I wonder if they will reach MEDIATAKEOUT.COM!!!! IS DERT!!!! hahahaha
Why are all the women of your small country so fat?
they fat just like your moms
loook at all that dominican…..no wonder their husbands does leave and go behind other people because they to like to mind other people business………………when their lives are a mess…………..some have food on the fire lol well that food must burn………..they to like row row
We’re in over five international newspapers this morning. Read one or two comments by the gay community here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/2-us-men-plead-guilty-to-indecent-exposure-in-dominica-following-gay-cruise-arrest/2012/03/22/gIQA7jxxTS_allComments.html?ctab=all_&#comments
All you say all you want tourism. Tourist come in many different. Forms.
So we should welcome all tourists to have sex naked infront of locals cause that’s e type of tourism we are promoting
ALL forms of tourism are good EXCEPT criminal tourism. Dominica have been welcoming gay tourism for many time without any mishaps. These two men had to spoil every thing by exposing thier indignities to women and children, and senior citizens on this tranquil island state.
FYI, I currently live in Dominica…and it is a daily trend to see naked men or women bathing themselves in streams or rivers. How about we lock them up and make them pay fines. Oh wait, because Dominicans only choose to oppress the gays…
Naked yes but performing lewd acts -NO!!!!!!!!
that is our culture and u said it right bathing not having sex
Unfortunately, this has probably crippled the country for years. They are barely surviving as a nation as is…and this has furthered their demise. The notion that these people are “educatued” has basically gone out the window due to this ridiculous story. Unfortunately, this primitive country has shown its true colors of how simple minded the people of Dominica truly are. The “morals” they instill are clearly adopted from western tradition, however, due to the clear lack of education (or mere intelligence lol), or lack of ability to distinguish right from wrong, they will never be able to think for themselves until once again they are dominated, or taught, by a superior nation. While this country is stuck in the 90’s the rest of us are flourishing in the 21st century. Clearly this country has been given fish, and not taught to fish. Unlike the western civilizations they desire to become, these people will never be able to think for themselves. Instead the lazy people of this country are content with the sociology brought to them years ago, and will never grow. Hopefully, one day, someone can bring intelligence to this foolish country, and they can escape the ignorance that plagues them.
Our morals do not come from the western world in fact they derived mostly from the church which originated mostly in Europe and if people decide to keep beliefs of the oast it is still their beliefs and perhaps you should revise your definition of primitive and intelligence because it certainly differs from that of theDICTIONARY
Homosexuality is only now become a normal thing in country’s like the us and even theor they are discriminated and getting bullied
In Dominican schools there are people we know that are gay but they aren’t bullied not to a great extent and then of they are it is instantly stopped by the teachers and principal
Teeana, Please do educate me on Dominican morals, the last time I was there, which was in February, I could hardly notice one. So please do list all the lovely present Dominican morals, and enlighten me. Can’t wait to hear them. Please do not list saying “good morning” and “good afternoon” to elders, because the manners moral has also gone out the window, right next to “do not steal from your neighbour”
you nout only sound ignorant for making such a generalized statement but you also sound bitter and alone…utter rubbish..Dominican students have excelled over and over again in College all over the US ..perforing at a much greater level than american student yet still they are considered primitive…well Dominica has been doing and will continue to do just fine without America’s gay cruiseship….
Am very happy to tell you, as a student of the U VI.student educated in Dominica are the the top achievers at U VI and throughout the us, how is that for unintelligent. far from being a foolish country I’m proud of my people for standing up. Mark a passage said, “I was on board the ship when they got arrested, Let me clear your minds. They did not get arrested for being gay,It was the passenger who reported them.They were having sex in the balcony. Having SEX in the view of public is against the law, Not only there but everywhere. They got arrested for public indecency. I don’t feel sorry for them,They giving gays a bad name.” so look at the issue.
They were FONDLING.
SERIOUSLY?
THAT IS NOT SEX!
Papa God, Dominicans like to exaggerate!
they pleaded guilty !!!!!!
Dominica will pay a dear price for this in tourism, especially that of Gay and Lesbian tourist who have ample money to spend. I hope every gay cruise along with every gay traveler avoids the island like they are already doing with some of the islands due to the less than welcome attitude given. Dominica will lose much more than the $4800 in fines they levied for this, they have already become the laughing stock of international news. And before you go spouting off how moral Dominica is you should apply that morality to the autrocities being committed by the Dominica police. In a report published in October 2011, Amnesty International documented an unacceptable and persistent pattern of abuse and killings by police in Dominica. I think you all have more important things to worry about than two tourists fondling each other.
So it’s embarrassing to convict someone for indecent exposure?
Police have been know to make mistakes in all countys
And if you guys think that Dominica is the only Caribbean country who is against homosexuality then your dead wrong
lost…all this because the guys were arrested for public indeceny…
can somebody tell me who was left with the embarrasment?this whole bad movie did not have to be made.while we pointing fingers and blaming people it was boiled down to “indecent exposure” and the little loss of a few million tourist dollars a year.i guess an island with a few broke artist is not that bad.80 thousand people eh . . is nothing if it is not less.
It is very likely that the offending former police officer has been on the other side of the law, enforcing indecent exposure and public indecency laws while performing his past duties. I can only hope that he showed mercy and compassion to the intoxicated man urinating at the side of a building or road or the hot-blooded, horny teenagers making out in the back-seat of their parents car. Remember that ignorance of the law (even in a foreign land) is no excuse for breaking the law. The men broke the law, apologized to the court and our country, and paid their fines. Let them go in peace and go along their merry way. The rest of us need to do the same.
As a gay man that has been to Dominica twice I was disgusted that two gay cruise ship passengers were having sex out in the open on the island. After I heard that a “peeping tom/s” noticed that they are having sex in the privacy of their own cabin on the balcony, I was appalled that the men were arrested and taken off of the ship by the local authorities. My first trip to Dominica was with my partner on a cruise ship and we fell in love with the island. I returned last year for a week and had my best Caribbean experience to date. While I am an “out” gay man I understand that in a foreign country you have to respect that many people and governments aren’t as progressive as things are in the US. And that one can’t necessarily act as one would at home. However I also don’t believe that one should hide who they are either. As I stated I had a wonderful experience and I will return. I felt safe and loved the fact that the island isn’t built up like the rest of the Caribbean. At a time when many countries are struggling with their budgets Dominica is unique that it has a national resource to attract travelers to its island paradise. If they were smart they would adopt a more progressive attitude towards Gays and Lesbians and go after the gay dollar. Once they get to know us they will see that we are just like everyone else; spirit and all.
MR VISITOR.
You will be well advised to read the press release by the tour operators. You will realise that your view of the incident is distorted. The men were on a public in full view of all including elderly women and small children.
Gay rights are respected here but wanton public display of indecency by anyone is frown upon and rightfully so. Because this is a small country does not mean that it should be a wantonly lawless state.
You visited the island and you honestly think that the police made an arrest based on “peeping toms” words? Why weren’t you arrested then because I am certain you and your partner engaged in sexual activity while there? They exposed themselves in plain view of the public and gays all over should be reprimanding these men for putting them several steps back in their “cause”.
@ Visitor
You are not like everybody else. You are a homosexual and the majority of us are normal, heterosexual people. Note the difference. You can be like everybody else if you renounce your homosexual tendency and activity.
I’m a dominican who lives in New York, and you will get arrested by the nypd if you are exposed in public. You will be charged with disordely conduct and even spend the night in prison. The men did not get arrested because they are GAY they got arrested for not following the LAW. you small minded people have to look at the big picture and stop being so narrow minded if you break the law in new york where i live you will be fined or get put in prison.
I got fined for walking through the train cars. Dominicans living abroad have to abide by the law in another man’s country. The same should rules should apply for any body coming to dominica. should abide by the law of the land.
DNO, I am surprised that your Website did not crash with all those comments but it is slow.
I guess Websites do not crash. It will take me hours or days to peruse the comments and of course provide my comments as usual which I would love to do when I have the time.
It is quite an interesting story. So they had a few drinks and viewed the landscape of DA and thought they would indulge in this illicit activity? No excuse. If they were in the U.S., Canada or Europe, they would also be charged. They could not do this even during their so-called gay pride parade. They could have stayed in their rooms where no Dominicans would see them. Surely this is what they did all night sleeping together. Did they not have enough of it for the night?
Hats off and Laurels to the DA Police Force Authorities. I am pleased that they were arrested and paid a price for their immoral actions. $2,400 EC was not enough. Now they are short-changed. I wonder if they had that money in their bank accounts or that family members or friends lent it to them. What if they did not have the money and were not able to obtain it?
It is a lesson to be learned that they must respect the Law of the land and its nationals. This pertains to others who visit the islands. It is a clear indication that they have no respect for islanders. Otherwise they would not have conducted themselves in such an unbecoming manner. Would they do this in the U.S., Canada, U.K and other parts of. Europe? I bet not for they would know the repercussion of their actions. I hope such a cruise ship never returns with those people.
What a backward country full of ignorant. Roseau have lots of “buggaman”, why would people instead of finding work to do gather to watch two gay man. Any right thinking person, including god-fearing people will stay away from Dominica.
tell me something Neutral, have you ever seen any of those “buggaman” in Roseau fondling each other’s private parts IN PUBLIC????????????? NO??? well shut your pie-hole!!! You people are just not understanding the issue….any sex act done out in the open will be punished…capishh???
I wonder if that person had a good meal that morning before leavin home to just walk along Roseau Harbour only to macho men on a cruise ship and also depend on them for a dollar that day to survive,they should mind their damn buisnes and leave people buisness alone.in this world no one is the same.MACHO NEIGHOUR MIND U DAMN BUISNESS.
We are so shallow-minded, so hateful towards those who act and believe differently. No longer why our officers are still riding in the back of pickup trucks in 2012. For we are doomed and blinded in our our selves.
@Big bannan
They are riding at the back of pickup trucks for the same reason why police officers in developed countries ride on exposed motor cycles or even on the ultra primitive horse’s back.
Soldiers in these developed countries ride at the back of open trucks all the time. so whats your point??’
Wowwww ignorant r my people. ebeh is now america will start to deny their american citizenship and greencards to Dominicans. ya’ll are so tiny minded that its crippling the country’s development and crippling the ability for dominicans who have been known to be very educated and “smart” people, to think without being biased or judgemental. gays come to dominica so what? move along. dont pay them no mindgo along ur business if the fact that they gay bother u so much. if the sight of them holding hands kissing hugging and doing whatever they do bothers u then doe look or come on the bayfront….im damn sure many of u hypocrites on here went down to the bayfront especially bcuz it was a gay cruise. sor tay lay weh sah say maco la tay ka feh now allu saying allu mentally disturbed… if ur so disturbed by the matter take ur bibles and pray for god to shine his light. dont discriminate them. im damn sure most of them will make it to heaven regardless of their sexuality. unlike some of u that pretend that u are such holy people and r already at the gates of hell.
I really wish u guys would spend just as much time trying to bring REAL CRIMES to justice instead of harrassing the lives of innocent pple. Jonster i am a dominican and i for one am deeply sorry for the way that the people were treated. i dont blame u for having a total negative disposition towards dominicans. THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN IN DOMINICA ALL THEIR LIVES AND NOT BOTHERED TO MAKE THEMSELVES AWARE OF THE PRESENT DAY FACTS R THE ONES HURTING THE COUNTRY’S NAME. HOWEVER THE COUNTRY dOMINICA ITSELF WELCOMES U WHENEVER U FEEL LIKE IT…IF U FIND THE RIGHT PERSON IN DOMINICA THEY WILL MAKE U FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE.
ONCE AGAIN I AM SORRY AND I HOPE MY ONE COMMENT MAY TIP DOMINICA BACK INTO UR GOOD GRACES
so we should see 2 men having sex in public, turn our heads….if u stand for nothing u will fall for anything..
Hotel manager murdered, business owners attacked and beaten, a child raped in front of her parents, tourists being brutally attacked and robbed, Dominicans shooting & stealing from Dominicans, multiple robberies . . . how long will it take for there to be justice for these REAL, DISHEARTENING, EVIL crimes….. yet a couple on board a cruise ship is arrested within hours. Not to mention I see at least 3 naked people a day while traveling to work and around town, and public nudity and sex during Carnival. GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT DA!!!!!!
That is not sex.
Wowwww ignorant r my people. ebeh is now america will start to deny their american citizenship and greencards to Dominicans. ya’ll are so tiny minded that its crippling the country’s development and crippling the ability for dominicans who have been known to be very educated and “smart” people, to think without being biased or judgemental. gays come to dominica so what? move along. dont pay them no mindgo along ur business if the fact that they gay bother u so much. if the sight of them holding hands kissing hugging and doing whatever they do bothers u then doe look or come on the bayfront….im damn sure many of u hypocrites on here went down to the bayfront especially bcuz it was a gay cruise. sor tay lay weh sah say maco la tay ka feh now allu saying allu mentally disturbed… if ur so disturbed by the matter take ur bibles and pray for god to shine his light. dont discriminate them. im damn sure most of them will make it to heaven regardless of their sexuality. unlike some of u that pretend that u are such holy people and r already at the gates of hell.
I really wish u guys would spend just as much time trying to bring REAL CRIMES
Can you go to America and do what they did without being arrested. Have you ever been to America. You need an Education. The Island have laws just like America and they are to be respected.
Dominica is right!! Just because this is acceptable in the US does not make it acceptable in DA. Would they have done this in the US. Not they would be in JAIL with all the gay they are gay. Indecent exposure is not prejudice against gay. You want to be gay do your crap privately. NOT IN DA! And yes I live in the US.
I mean …really?! Are u condornin wat doze guyz did? Yes day may reach heaven, but just like you and I…only if day repent 1st. If we are a prayin and christian community as we claim 2 B den we shude nt accept doze tingz openly. Wat pple do in their privacy is dere business and we cant stop it but we shude follow the GOOD BOOK and condemn dat abominable crap! We have a young generation comin up is dat wat we want 2 teach dem? So we goin 2 accept doze nonsense for green card and citizenship den? Ridiculous! Well pa if u doe get ur greencard yet we’re soooo sorry.
In your statement you said “to think without being biased or judgemental. gays come to dominica so what?” also “if ur so disturbed by the matter take ur bibles and pray for god to shine his light. dont discriminate them. im damn sure most of them will make it to heaven regardless of their sexuality. unlike some of u that pretend that u are such holy people and r already at the gates of hell.” God does not hate the sinner, He hates the sin. But dont you think you are being judgemental when you tell people where they are going? I always believe a hyprocrite is: to know one you have to be one.
I am sorry to say it, but stop kissing America’s ass they don’t give a ….about Dominica. So denying us green card is doing us a favor, because that green card is a permit to slavery
is prostitution legal everywhere in the states? why do they arrest people for soliciting prostitutes? its against the laws that’s why? go cry down the us you so quick to worship? and for you info they have to repent of their abominable deeds in other to get to heaven..don’t get that mixed up please. you seem to forget God destroyed a whole city because of their homosexual and lesbian activities. go read your bible. No one has a problem with gays visiting Dominica but they need to respect our laws when the are here plain and simple.i suspect alot of people condoning what these guys deed are gay themselves. why not just come out off the closet if you feel so strongly? have a gay march in the streets of roseau to make all you concerns known. if you guys wanna be gay then go aahead and be gay ,more girls for me but don’t try to force your lifestyle on straight ppl.
i am not saying that dominica was wrong for enforcing the law i know the damn law. im saying they shouldn’t have made such a big issue about it and neither shud u guys on here…yes they were charged with indecent exposure as they shud be but the only reason that these people were even seen all the way on their freaking balcony was bcuz dominicans r very nosey beffy people. it has nothing to do with american law and kissing america’s ass. it has everything to do with equality and ALWAYS enforcing the damn law not only becuz these people r gay we have to treat them like the shyt we flush. they were rightfully charged but the “law” did nothing to protect their identities.
But as usual you all are pressed about these people and their choice of partners so of course you wud react to this without thinking.
carry on papa…its not my cross to carry
The people commenting here and begging for greencards and visas are obviously those who have no hope of ever being in the US. Guess what, America has laws just like the rest of the world. To us, the act of breastfeeding in public is natural. Do you know how many women have been arrested here in the US for that act? Countries make their laws to govern based on their cultures. For many years, sodomy was illegal and still is in many states, here in the US. Stop villifying your country fools. The law was broken and those men were charged. END OF STORY!
i am a young dominican woman n i disagree with people slandering the name of my country wen i think that the punishment the men got is just..yes my country has gay people some that we know n some that are still in the closet but that dont mean that they can expose n behave immorally in public.. i feel sorry for people who wants to be angry and uphold what these men did an anybody talking their nonsense bout dominica just wanted their piece of the action to.. u grown folks need to stop n think about what u say before u say it.. AND SERIOUSLY LIVE MY COUNTRY ALONE!!.. just a set of educated fools makin dumb comments
this is why your country is a hellhole
YOU WIMP, WE DON’T WON’T YOUR KIND.
nasty coming right DA and do all u thing
I THINK IF AMERICA MAKES IT LEGAL FOR MEN TO MARRIED MEN WHEN IT IS AGAINST GOD LAW THEN THE CARIBBEAN LEADERS SHOULD LEGALIZE WEED.
This act is an abomination in the sight of God. Gay cruise ships should not be permitted to dock at our ports.
Hey Lucifer…don’t even preach the word of God. You belong in hell
I want to know if u working in the tourism department and if u do tlk for yrseF because there have been other gay cruises and thin thing as extravagant as this occurred so who are u to cut the source of someones income
NO SENSE!!!!!THEY SHOULD NOT BE LIVING THERE EITHER!!!
Not a problem Anonymous…as a Gay abomination I will take my sizable amount of spending money to an island that appreciates me and does not judge me. I will suggest the same to my abomindable gay and lesbian friends. And while you sit in your country wondering why your peoples economy gets worse due to your moralistic attitudes I suggest you get to know your bible and exactly what it says about homosexuality rather than pass judgement, which is God’s job, by listening to the poison others have filled you with. Peace be with you and may you one day understand the true meaning of God’s Word.
Dominicans will never be satisfied no matter what. You can please the The people some of the time you cannot please the pople all of the time. Tourism tourism. Oh what is gonna do for tourism.Dominicans complain about the chinese fixing all what they doing for Dominica, they complain about skerritt. Can some constructively tell me what Dominicans want becuase I dont event think they know. When non living dominicans come to Dominica, complaint is – we taking their jobs, but some of them dont know hwat it is to work a full day. Everywhere in the world is suffering it is called end times. Dominica small so its seems problems are magnified. What you going through every country is going through it.
I cannot believe people actually turned up to look at the people. every one of us dominican know somebody who is gay. I have know gay people in my community from since i was a child. Nobody “chant” them down.They are people too. There are so many bette things to do.
go to ur childs school , see how they doing, talk to their teachers, stop youth on youth violence, go to the grotto, give of ur time. No , allu want to go and stand up and watch 2 men who were enjoying themselves. Alas
you were doing fine till you mentioned,enjoying themselves,you are a sick individual.
“They were struck by the beautiful mountains, clear fresh water and beauty of the island and they also had a few cock-tails and so threw caution to the wind”. defense lawyer Bernadette Lambert.
What a classic; I cant believe the judge did not admonished the lawer.
the world is coming to and end
if I was a tourist or a cruisz ship I will never come to Dominica All those robberies and killing of tourist and then this Hmmm smh awa no sa
Well If u not going to a place because of stealing and killing and want to know where you going to live
oh plz…..is stupid ppl like all u that giving d/ca bad name…..all u like slave, developing other ppl country but all u talking…..a few incidents have occurred in dominica, but dont make it look like we are ill-treating tourist. there are countries with higher crime rates than ours and they are still tourist destinations…….Gosh, u ppl really get on my nerve……choopse
oh plz…..is stupid ppl like all u that giving d/ca bad name…..all u like slave, developing other ppl country but all u talking…..a few incidents have occurred in dominica, but dont make it look like we are ill-treating tourist. there are countries with higher crime rates than ours and they are still tourist destinations…….Gosh, u ppl really get on my nerve……choopse
I remember one thing about Dominica. The women are the most beautiful in the Caribbean. I didn’t leave the port area except for a small walk around the surrounding few blocks. People looked kind of unused to having all these weird tourists in their midst. It is the same feeling I have in Times Square. By the way in Times Square we have the Naked Cowboy who plays guitar (he is wearing tightee whitees). He’s popular. It was too hot to stay when I was there and I went back on the boat. On this story, I was expecting to hear the kind of responses you hear from Jamaica and places like that, awful things about homosexuals, but I find that the responses here are evenly pro and con and reasoned out. I would take a tour of Dominica next time, get immediately into an a/c car and tour the mountains, but didn’t get a chance to do that. Thanks for opening my eyes. I’ll be back.
GLAD TO KNOW YOU’LL B BACK JONSTER LIKE I SAID DOMINICA IS A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY EXCEPT FOR THE FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE HYPOCRITES. JUST FIND THE RIGHT TOUR GUIDE AND GET A REAL DOMINICAN EXPERIENCE BCUZ U DIDNT GET THE CHANCE TO EXPLORE HER BEAUTY.
THEY WILL NEVER DO SUCH THING IN THE MUSLIM WORLD. WHY SHOULD WE ACCEPT IT? BEFORE GOD IT IS WRONG. WHY DON’T THE ANIMAL KINGDOM DO SUCH BEHAVIOR. MAN HAVE STOOP SO LOW, BY DIGGING IN A FORBIDDEN ZONE. WAKE UP PEOPLE GOD IS STILL ON HIS THRONE.
look at the bunch of useless people standing there. you can see they have nothing better to do,thats why this place is so unproductive.
Samson Lilsam
i am wondering why Dominica authority so brainless and stupid. can they believed this men are legally married at the country n they have the right to have sex or what ever they wish. the men are visitor the authority shuld inform them that wat they are doin is wrong n simple is money they wanted. the united state should take legal action to Dominica for discriminate the men name on the air. in dominica there are a large number of lesbians and gay from primary sch seconday and college is worst y they do not take action to their own citizen. tourist will stop come to this country and make the economy unfavorable.
The charge was not for their sexual orientation. Whether the were lesbians, gays or normal man and woman they would have charged them also. your comment is quiet ridiculous and does not make sense, It disrespect to the country. In the same way you won’t have sex infront you child the same way you are not suppose to have sex in public.
i agree with u, its not cuz they r gay but b/cuz of the public sex they got arrested & charged..be it straight, lesbian, gay or bi-sexual, i agree with the charges, besides, there were children out there…no respect for the little ones????
i can,t believe why you are sooooo stupid
I agree 100%
@samson lilsam you are so ignorant is absurd. a marriage license not recognised in a country bears no weight. can you go to iraq and have sex in public/ heck not even in america. I see you are so brainless its driping off you face, so sorry for you. You can stop coming and keep your gay money. This is dominica, the land were people survive no matter what the odds. america is the place where one month without a salary get you on welfare or sleeping under a newspaper. Go visit iran and get kidnapped and leave us alone.
samson lilsam your dam idiot, go and learn to spell, if you bulling yourself, dominica dont need this kind of lifestyle there is a judgement day coming, and its for all of us he that is filthy let him be filthy still keep all you nasty lifestyle to all you selves. thank you.
in america u guys can bull each other any were u want its wrong even if it was a man and woman it would be wrong its in public for heaven sake.in the end alot of people would see what bin ladin was trying to do,but going against the grain of what is written u shall not live ,every one know about the one world order and that everything should fall in to place for the anti christ but yet still we are still trying to form the one world.stop the bulling people.
I do not see the problem, the men were not arrested because they are gay, if that was the case everyone of them would have been arrested, they broke our law by being nude in public so they face their offences in the court. If it was a Dominican that did that, they would face the same fate man or woman and those defending them would care less. I dare a Dominican to go to California and walk naked and see what happens. Not too long ago a man was arrested for being nude in his house and some woman saw him. So stop making DA look bad
It is legal in California to be naked in public. So long as you are not in a municipal that has made it illegal. This was ruled in 1972.
We must obey the Law. Foreigners who come to Dominica must respect the Law and its citizens. It’s amazing to see how many people are against the action the government took. Shame on you! They did not get arrested because they are Gay. They got arrested for indecent exposure, breaking the Law! So since most of you bloggers don’t see nothing wrong with what happened why not have sex the next time you are in public where children are, or infront of a bakery, a supermarket, etc. because according to your way of thinking it is ok anyway. By the way most fornicators, adulterous, homos and lesbians, straight people have sex in private! Also there are many God-fearing people who obey God’s word. So people, which ever way, respect the Law and don’t leave outsiders come and disrespect you in your country! You are not slaves! Without them you will and can survive, for Dominicans are skilled & intelligent people. And by the way am not a Dominican but someone who hate to see people from big countries come and think that islanders are stupid and feel that islanders must accept their way of life because according to them they are smarter than islanders.
It would be cool if half the people who showed up outside the court would protest outside that castle being built across from the library.god knows how many families that could feed.Oh but i guess this is more important
I think that Dominicans are too hypocrite. Those of you who are commenting and saying bad things about gay people I hope that you have no skelentons in your closets. Yes they were wrong for displaying that kind of behaviour to the public, but I mean come on man. The situation could have been handled better than that. As a country who relies greatly on our TOURISM INDUSTRY, I think that we could have been more sensitive to this case. Dominicans saying how they are strongly against gay ships coming into the island. Tourist is Tourist. Not spend they spending money in the country to help with economic development? The same ‘GAY’ TOURIST that you don’t want in the country is the same tourist that spend money here and helps it to circulate to pay your light bills, school fees and give you a pay cheque every month to go SEWO and by all them EXPENSIVE clothes and shoes you want to be wearing. This was a serious matter and personally I find that this situation was not handled properly. Dominica was finally on news in the US and elsewhere and trust me, it was NOTHING good they had to say. THink of the possible drop of tourist coming into our country in the near future. IF we have failed to realised, in the US and other places people don’t really care if you are GAY or BI. People is peeople and are at liberty to be what the HELL it is that they want to be. People don’t tell you how to wipe your ass, so why question someone sexuality? It is wrong yes, but being the 3rd World country that we are, we are at no right to pick and bleedy choose the types of tourist that come into the country. Once the tourist spend money in our country we should have no problem. I am not promoting this type of behaviour, but for once lets not think of ways to get story to make headlines,lets think of ways to boost tourism. Many tourist may have even lost interest in returning to dominica because of this. Imagine those who have friends and families that are GAY, however, because of the CLEAR DESCRIMINATION we showed towards these people, tourist from all over the world may never even consider coming to our counrty. Just think of what is would do our countries TOURISM INDUSTRY…..
I fully agree with you. This is exactly what dominicans are not understanding. But with declining literacy rates and a majority below the poverty line (note that there is a correlation between poverty and stupidity) it is not difficult to imagine that many will not understand what you mean.
You are talking like half of the US gay and the other half supporting them
In this photo above of Dominican onlookers one can clearly see that we have more to fear than a bunch of homos. From one end of the picture to the other end all the women in front overweight! My God in high heaven! We need to invest in more gyms!
I am NOT condoning the gentlemen having sex to the public eyes. The charge is quite appropriate. But I think the same should apply to persons especially the women who expose their fatbig belly ugly bodies on carnival Monday and Tuesday gyrating their bodies on the men like they are actually having sex. That too is bad!!!
if it was 2 women that was having sex the onlookers would be ecstastic over the sneak preview such hypocrisy, all that crap, d/ca’s like to refer to bible to justify their judgement of others i hope those people can refer to the bible for themselves because sin is sin whether is a “little lie” or fornication and the amount of adulterers and fornicators in d/ca and additional sins we have piled up in our lives people should have nothing to say. WHO THE HAT FIT LET THEM WEAR IT.
people need to understand that homosexual or not, you CANNOT BE HAVING SEX IN THE PUBLIC EYE. It’s not about being gay..its just the fact that it traumatized men, women and children.The men just wanted to put on a show
Until yesterday nobody in the United States had ever heard of Dominica. Now they know it only as a place to avoid. Not the smartest move and one that will only be made very much worse by the fact that so many of people at the very top of the cruise industry are gay themselves. You can expect the number of dockings to plummet once those already scheduled have taken place. Hopefully tourism isn’t the only industry for Dominica…
we do not need that type of tourist
wow!!!
not nobody, many people didnt kno….i knew…and the less of a particular kind that goes there the better…and FYI the cruise tourist hardly spend money on the islands
JMG THANKS FOR SHOWING INTEREST,AND WE DO HOPE YOU’LL COME VISIT OR BEAUTIFUL ISLAND SOON, JUST REMEMBER WE ARE A NATION WITH RULES. SPREAD THE WORD DOMINICA IRIE MAN.
When a Dominican living in America disobey the law of the nation. They are judged accordingly and in compliant with the due process, Dominica have it own due process. Anyone coming to Dominica must respect that law.
I would like to place on the record that I believe that homosexuality like all other forms of sexual immorality, inclusive of fornication and adultery, are sins. They are activities which God does not approve and for which unrepentant participants will be kept out of the eternal kingdom.
The law in Dominica clearly states that buggery is a crime. Anyone coming to Dominica despite of their own belief system should be subject to the laws that govern our land. Therefore the police and the other component of the judiciary were correct in arresting and prosecuting the two offenders.
However, what I would like to do initiate a discussion in an attempt to assess the fairness of the law as it relates to the legal repercussion for engaging in acts of sexual immorality. Based on the bible, sexual immorality is not exclusive to acts of buggery but also includes the acts of fornication and adultery. God despises all these acts and I do not believe that he is more displeased with buggery but more tolerant of fornication and adultery. Therefore, I find it difficult to accept that our buggery law is fair and just. Why are that fornication and adultery considered biblically wrong but legally and socially acceptable while buggery which is considered unacceptable in every dimension. Where is the consistency and fairness? Would all the enraged and disgruntled individuals also encourage the Government to enact laws making it illegal to indulge in these fornication and adultery? Would we as a nation give our consent or be up in arms protesting that it’s a violation of our basic human rights? If the answer is yes then there is fairness across the board and the existing laws are just and are a testimony to our biblical beliefs as a Christian nation. However if the answer is no, then there is a great degree of hypocrisy and biasness, and the Christian principle of fairness is inexistent. I believe that if there are laws for a particular sexual deviant behaviour, there should also be laws for the others. Some people cannot have the privilege of falling on their knees and asking for forgiveness and face no legal consequences while others have to be dragged before the courts for similar the same deviant behaviour, sexual immorality.
Hopefully this will generate some discussion and people will not get over emotional.
The company behind a “gay” cruise that caused a bit of a stir in Dominica and resulted in two cruise passengers being fined by the local courts, has been seeking to clear the air on what actually happened.
The cruise was organized by Atlantis Events, a Southern California company that specializes in gay travel.
On its Atlantis Event Incorporated FaceBook page, the company’s President Rich Campbell apologizes “for the late post”, explaining that “ we have been at sea for the past 18 hours with limited internet access”.
Here is the rest of what the Atlantis Events president had to say about the matter:
“We appreciate the comments on this board regarding the incident in Dominica yesterday, but would sincerely ask that most of you get the facts correct before condemning Atlantis or Dominica for what happened. Here are the facts:
Yesterday morning around 9:30 am two of our guests were seen engaging in a sexual act outdoors on their balcony in full public view of the port and town.
Not only did many of the residents witness the act, several of our guests saw this incident as well.
The local authorities responded to a complaint by several residents.
The two gentlemen were arrested on a misdemeanor charge of public indecency and detained overnight.
They appeared in front of the local magistrate this morning, paid a small fine, and were released in full.
Please understand that the complaint and subsequent arrests had nothing to do with the guests’ sexual orientation, nor was any “anti-gay” law invoked.
These guests were engaged in behavior that is inappropriate in any port of call, or major city for that matter.
The guests were never left on their own.
We had both representatives from Atlantis and Celebrity cruises with them at all times during their ordeal and had our local representatives look after them last night.
Furthermore, we worked closely with the US Embassy in Barbados to assure that their safety was always being monitored.
Atlantis had 2000 guests in port yesterday in Dominica and most of them had an outstanding time visiting the country.
Celebrity Cruises has been extremely supportive, working with Atlantis to insure these guests’ safety and security despite their detention in Dominica.
We commend them for their unwavering support through this incident.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Rich Campbell
President, Atlantis Events, Inc.”
Bondiere, Dominicans hypocrite wii. So many boggerers running all over the country (those who are openly gay and those who are on the downlow and I mean DOWNLOW). UH huh,they meeting in secret places and catching lentils in the bowls.That is why when alot of them leave the damn country, all of a sudden they gay. Now because they saw two men kissing on a cruiseship, they pretending like it’s the end of the world or their eyes getting spoiled. Come see those policemen (lol) they arresting. What they need to do is find all the perpetrators who are attacking and robbing tourists and nationals alike. Just don’t let the gay cruise ship dock at all instead of letting them come (knowing that you all have strict laws when it comes to gays) and arresting and condemning them. We must learn not to condemn eh because we are all children of God.
How the hell you can expect to engage in any sexual act in public. Stupid!!!!
the 2 men should just plead guilty
All them men that does want to go in their women ass/anal they GAy! they gay they gay they gay! Maybe our country should start charging them too?
how can go on a gay cruse and doe expect for you get bull?? papamet
i have one question for all of dominicans who saying bad things about those gay people..
is it you anus?
LOL ….
NO..mine is stappled
lol sorry i can press the green button once
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Funny How the statement released by the Gay cruise line goes unnoticed and you all just want to bash Dominica, they broke the Dominican laws even the gay cruise line is apologizing and yet people blame Dominica for enforcing their laws…
hahhahahahah! O MY that’s funny!
Simple solution…gay cruises should avoid Dominica…gays/lesbians in general should avoid Dominica. We will take our wealth and spend it on the islands that appreciate us. Dominica has made it clear, we are not wanted. And we don’t need you Dominica!
lmfao you lucky you did’nt come Jamaica where they STONE HOMO PEOPLE
please stay away from this GODLY island…….we dont need this nonsence.
where on earth is godly now,so many of them running aroung on the shore line of dominica start aresting them, molesting children and walking in public like nothing happen.
This is such misguided contribution. Dominica has an average gay population just like any other country in the world and most of them come from heterosexual parents. Gay people are peoples children as well… please try to understand this.
Great! and while you go elsewhere, try to avoid hell as well.
Thank you for those kind words Moi, I suspect you will keep me good company there. God be with you, may you find Peace.
You need Jesus.
Found Jesus a long time ago. I am a Christian who is Gay and lives my life the way God created me. As my mother once said, “If God made you Gay, then that is his will.” Before you pass judgement on one just because they are Gay, get to know them. Not only am I a Gay Christian, I have dedicated my life to helping those less fortunate than myself living by the golden rule, treating others as I would like them to treat me.
wonderful words …..
yow do you dominica has a average of lesbians n gay do not need to say ur unnecessary views
man do not talk your nonsence, the men were arrested for their nudity, if they had kept their clothes on there would be no arrest. If a Dominican walks nude he or she will be treaded the same way thats our law so shut it!
I have a much better idea for spending your “wealth”: every single one of you buggerers of the Earth should be rounded up and given your own island to pervert and die from your disease and godless lifestyle… like maybe Antartica.
Stay there, no one will care, spend your perverted money there and die of your AIDS.
Jigge it appears you are the last person that should be accusing someone of a Godless lifestyle. And last time I looked AIDS was not a gay disease, sadly women of color have one of the highest infections rates, next time you respond to my post try and respond in an intelligent manner and not out of hatred and ignorance.
That is so not the first time a gay cruise line coming to Dominica
The fact that they were naked outside having sex where everbody could see is what has most people upset
U crossed the line of what they can tolerate
Amd if you are gay u have to understand not everyone accepts what u do and bus you should not force down your homosexuality down people’s throats
I am a Dominican residing in the US and i felt really bad when this kind of negative publicity was shared with not only america but the rest of the world. We advertise our country as being the “nature Isle of the Caribbean”, boast of its great food and friendly loving people yet still we make human beings who have a difference in sexual beliefs than we do feel un-welcomed and like shyt.I am very straight,but i dont believe that me being straight gives me the right to discriminate against homosexual individuals. I understand that the charges against the men were for their public indecent exposure and i am happy that we enforce the law, however I wish we did not only enforce it when its “gay people”.I am very sure that may other cruise lines have docked at our ports and couples straight couples that is have fondled with each other and dominicans paid them no mind because they were “straight”.
Let us stop contradicting ourselves and enforce our laws only when we are uncomfortable but let us always enforce the laws. homosexuals are normal people. they have jobs like we do and live normal lives. the only difference is their sexual beliefs.Tourism and agriculture are the backbone of our nation and i for one beleive that we should sacrifice our “disgust, and our traumatization for the sake of our country and our pockets. They came to enjoy Dominica and go back to the states to tell their straight and gay friends how amazing we were thus bringing more money into the country….now they will go back and make a mockery of us and have nothing but negative things to say.
Dominicans do not be so hypocrite do not cast the first stone when the same exact thing goes on in certain d/can homes behind closed doors. nobody is perfect and after all we been through and going through we should be the last country to act how we did in regard to this entire situation.
@Neutral So you live in the US ? If you did you would know full well that America is the most corrupted, yet hypocrital and uptight place you could think of they will have all kind of gay rights but at the same time they will not play to arrest your behind if you dare have sex or buggar sex in public. We in Dominica have laws like everywhere else and they have to be respected and obeyed. The gay men know that if they have sex in public in America they would be arrested. Why do you think they did it in Dominica? They underestimated us as a people and it has nothing to do with being hypocrite. America has no respect for other countries and their laws and customs. I know in some of all you eyes we are probably poor, hungry and miserable but that does not mean you have to give me your to eat for dinner smdh
Well said neutral…the authorities made it a Gay thing. It could have been handled in a much better way. I cruise on a regular basis; have never taken a “gay” cruise although I am gay. And on those cruises I have seen inappropriate behavior of straight folks in and out of port, not once has there been consequences. For this to occur, for the government to make a big deal resulting in it going viral…well that was a huge mistake on Dominica’s part and I fear the results will be lasting not just in the Gay community but in the travel industry.
Pleeeeeaaassee tell your gay friends to avoid our country if they cannot control themselves long enough not to have SEX IN PUBLIC PLACES!! Hell tell all your friends, gay or straight who think it’s ok to have sex in full view of every and anybody to avoid us. Any others who want to come enjoy our island and would offer us the same respect they would offer any other country by NOT HAVING SEX IN PUBLIC PLACES OR PUBLIC INDECENCY, tell them that they are welcome here and we will roll out the red carpet.
Just a couple follow up comments…to you haters and “I am holier” types…no worries this Gay man will not be visiting any time soon, I feel safer is some of the Muslim countries I have traveled as opposed to your Christian country given some of the unpleasant comments. I ask this: Does Dominica enforce the laws equally when it is a male/female conducting themselves in the same manner? From what I gather the country does not, there is a double standard. As for those commenting so ugly about gays, as a Christian and a Gay, I realize most of the good people of Dominica are not represented by your simple minds. I hope you find Peace and come to understand the Word of God for what it is…it is not for us to judge, but for us to do good in this world and treat others with kindness, love and tolerance…you will be judged by your acts and attitudes in the end by your Maker. Finally, given the October 2011 report from Amnesty International and the issues your police have when it comes to killing your own people I think your country has bigger issues to worry about than making sure someone does not expose themselves.
But what I hearing there na!!!???? We need to pray for this country and these people. Homosexuality is an ABOMINATION!!!!!!!!!!!
so true….may GOD help us
LET WHO WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE, WE NEED TO STOP PLAY GOD, AND LET GOD BE THE JUDGE, FOR ALL MEN HAVE TO TAKE ACCOUNT FOR HIS/HER OWN SOUL
… and according to the bible so is fornication, adultery, bigotry …
Ruth shut up we know that ….U tooo Holy you and the rest of your “too christian” family
YOU Ruth are an abomination and a disgrace to the human race.
It’s amazing how fast this story spread. The friend who was on the straight cruise to Dominica with me is travel manager for a global company that services very wealthy people with private jets. They prepare flight plans and “watch” lists for each country. A lot of people he works with are gay too. For the past two days, everyone in the travel world is busy tapping out text messages on their iPhones about this incident. So much money to be made just by keeping quiet and not embarrasing people. Dominica justice made a mistake. They should have handled the incident with less publicity and not called the men names and photographed them and released their names, etc.
hey padner, let me tell you something, without you we will more than survive okay? what all you those americans think nuh? all you rule the world man? stupes. when you go to a country we have to obey their laws. if is some foreigner that had come to america and had done some kind of crime the same thing would happen. stupes man all you think all you can just get away with anything,.
They hardly ever come to Dominica, so why should we keep quiet?
But I’m gay and I came on a regular cruise. I’ve never even been on an all gay cruise. And the guy I was with was gay, and the people in the next stateroom too. On these ships they have gay meetings onboard and you might be surprised to see how many gay folk go on those. The problem is you can’t tell who’s who … maybe you only see stereotypes?
so how should God handle sodom and it is better for a man to lose the whole world and keep his soul i say we have enough to answer God to we should not add more
jonster you came to dominica with a lot of gay peeps already right? Did you have sex in public? did anyone bother you? voila!
Alot of Dominicans tolerate gays and there have been other gay cruise who had a good time and were treated well by the locals ….what they could not tolerate was homosexuality being pushed in their face….and so they are now pissed
dude its not about being gay…its about being naked in public….its illegal EVERYWHERE!!!!!!
@jokester or jonester we are not going to keep quiet for a few dollars. Unlike you we still have morals. In our country only animals have sex in public and latley we dont even see that because they have pride now. You are welcome to visit but if you cant act like a human keep your bribes and stay away from us, thanks. We msut all seek to maintain our standards above the beasts.
they shouldnt have them man in the island whats wrong with da pm na
That’s true
Nonsense allu talking that is just plain discriminating amd is comments like that that making Dominica bad making it look as if we arresting just because they are gay
that is ting ya gay boat but not lesbian boat no tings… jsut man …. man alone dominicans like… dats is y it da gash ma all u to like man
Get over yourselves! Dominica is one of the most unconscious places on the face of the earth. You all are hiding behind your Bibles, while you commit some of the most atrocious acts of cruelty and immorality on the face of the earth. Stealing, lying, disrespecting your children, fornication and adultery are the activities of choice for most of you. Having children that you never intend to raise (men!!) is more nasty than anything a gay person could ever do. And you call yourselves Christians! And have the nerve to condem anyone who isn’t just like you. Look in the mirror – can you see the beam in your own eyes?
carol mind ur manners! Dominica is. Bad compare to what. Country? What’s ur country again?
All is drama was not called for.
The authorities made a big hash of things. This should not have made world headlines. The judge just did what most people are doing, she got carried away. A simple fine was all that was needed. No name calling. No pictures were required (making them look like the FBI’s most wanted). We dont know them, they are never likely to step on Dominica’s shores again.
People, get over it, tune into something worth shouting about (like child abuse, incest, fornication, schoold kids fighting in the middle of Roseau and all the other things plaguing Dominica).
Yes they broke the laws of Dominica, but so do lots of others in ways that impact on the whole nation.
Excuse me!…any body ever thought to inform you that homosexuality is an illegal act in this “God-forsaken”, “out of the way country”???…wat r u getin at? whether u think we steal, lie, fornicate or disrespect our children (which i do not agree with)let us do it for ourselves… dont leave a country wr it is highly forbidden n try to come hr n pull it off…DEM PPL SHUD B IN JAIL FOR ALL WE CARE!!!!
two wrongs do not constitute a right even if you are a gay too.
That is such a racist comment coming from a lesbian! Maybe you forget that you homosexual perverts spread the AIDS to all murdering millions. Yes, you like to forget that you homos spread such death.
Murder is the worst crime Carol Braccini so YOU look into the mirror for a long time.
Not saying those other things don’t happen they do and they’re wrong but how many places have you been or actually know about to already analyze Dominica and call it unconscious
We are conscious that gays exist elsewhere and on the island we just don’t want to see them having sex where anybody can see we already know that obviously on a gay cruise there is sex we already know that if a man and a woman have children they do have sex but WE DON’T WANT O SEE IT
When America kick your out let’s see where you have to return to. YOu bloody fool. Villify your country for what?
THE COMPANY HAS PRESENTED THE FACTS TO DNO WHICH IS THE LATEST POST ON THIS SITE. So stop being ignorant, take the time to read their statement and move on. Bottom line is that this is NOT a gay issue but a disrespect to the laws of Dominica or any country to engage in inappropriate sexual behavior in public.
Please read and don’t embarrass Dominica PLEASE! We’ve had enough world exposure for the wrong reasons in the last 24 hours.
Dominica IS an embarrassment. You’ve shown your ignorance and intolerance. I have and others have and will continue to pressure cruise lines and other travel sites/coordinators to avoid your festering open sewer of an island.
You are teh embarassment because the president of the cruise has set the record straight. Before you start belching bubbles get informed. Please know that recession did not shake us so gays cannot shake us. You are the ones who eat dirt if you lose your job for one day, but we survive.
Damn OMG our stomach boiling now we going to starve without your dollar. Since you are the ones who make sure we eat I would like to apologise for daring to make our feelings known. Feel free to come again and give us another sample of boggar
Oh man what you guys did was right smh why are we Dominicans so backward ? Next time I think we should invite them into ours homes so that they could do it in from of our children. Yeah I want to teach my children how to be conscious and progressive. So….I will invite gay not gay straight crooked to whatever in my home because I don’t want to appear backward and hey who cares all sin is sin let God be the judge when its convenient to me.
mjcc1987, KEEP YOUR PANTS ON WHEN IN DOMINICA
Shut up! You don’t have to come. Chances are you’ve never even actually been on a cruise before. Only people who have actually traveled know that you have to respect other people’s laws. Dominica will be fine whether or not you come.
YOU HAVE GOT SOME GALL, YOU SICK PERVERT YOU ARE THE SEWER AND WE DON’T WANT YOUR FILTHY LIFESTYLE IN DOMINICA,WON’T MISS YOUR KIND THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US, AND KNOW NO AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IS WORTH HAVING OUR LANDS CURSE .
I am a gay american and I was just in Dominica a few months ago on a “straight” cruise. From the comments here, I have changed my mind about Dominica. There are comments bashing gays, but an equal amount of comments bashing the bashers. I salute you. However, I don’t think they should have taken the passengers off that ship and embarrassed them in front of the whole world. They should have handled it more privately. If they were having sex on a balcony (which they say they weren’t, they were “fondling” or touching), that is illegal. I also recall that it is very hard to see the ship from the port, a long way. Someone had binoculars.
I was in Atlanta and treated badly by gays but I still respect them soooo
we are happy that you have changed your mind about Dominica. We will not sell our souls in exchange for your dollar. We are doing just fine without you. We eat drink and very merry.
liar liar pants on fire
“I don’t think they should have taken the passengers off that ship and embarrassed them in front of the whole world.”
And why not bugger man; you homo friends posed their degenerate filth in front of many witnesses including children without care for anyone.
but wait!…who says we are in dire need of ure american dollar???…u can keep ure money and u can keep ure life style wr it is totally accepted…and clearly it most definitely not accepted in our lovely dominica!! so hint…hint!!
Okay, will stay away. I guess I was very wrong.
And once again I say I will invite you to do your dirty act in front of me and my children since I’m so hungry for your American Dollar, All in the name of progress
I hope when the back lash is felt some of us we like to stay behind our computers and type. I hope we will type jobs for the taxi persons and the people who sell to the same tourist (mother, father, sister brother) the ripple effect of family when the same AMERICANS folks decided to boycott our country…the cruise ships remember Carnival cruise lines?
hold your yankey dollars and keep our country clean….
So what are you saying,ppl must compromise their integrity and morals for money? foolishness. These people has to learn to respect the laws of other countries the same way they want others to respect theirs. Some ppl would sell their soul to the DEVIL if given a chance.
You are correct Fair and Balance, the homosexuals have already sold their souls to the Devil.
A good name is better than riches, our moral makes us who we are, we should not be begging come what may, tourist should be competing to visit us because of good virtues and high morals.
we all no that america can make you and break you
dominica is not against gays what ever they did it happened in the public and this is aginst the law of the land be stright or gay lets move on and ascept that they were wrong what the big force about
first of al the men were arrested for having indeceny. They were not arrested for because they were gay. if you find me having sex in public arrest me too because its against the damn law. When something good is happening in Dominica you hardly see all those damn comments flushing DNO. once agin, they wre arrested for having sex in public dammit!
they were NOT HAVING SEX they were fondling.many of us fundle in public, this was wrong
They were having sex in public if they were fondling then nobody would see and even if they were they could still get arrested for INDECENT EXPOSURE AS THEY WERE NAKED
OK, get back to your lives. The circus is over! Sexual perversion is rampant in DA, and you all have the nerve to condem ANYONE for what they do. I don’t care if they’re on a ship or on a beach … mind your own business. The actions during Carnival are disgusting and depraved, so you all have nothing to say about what anyone else does until you clean up your own sexual”poppy show”. Find something to do besides peep.
Carol, I am still in shock over this foolishness. Did not realize that Dominicans we so ignorant and backwards. You are right look at their vulgar action, not only during carnival (which I would not take my children to see), but around the rum shops. They are so sexual, from top of the political and religious chain down to the common people on the streets trying to rape children, fornicate, commit adultery you name it, they got it. Give me a break. Dominica must be the laughing stock of the region…”they want tourism, but can’t be civilized with their guests…hahahaha”
The men were arrested because of indecent exposure not because they were gay. Dominicans are being very hypocritical and foolish. Why dont all of the individuals quoting the bible discriminate against fornicaters as well or is there nothing about that in the word. Sin is sin, yes, but GOD will deal with sin, work out YOUR OWN salvation.
I am still not satisified, if it was in a country like Iran they would be executed, so why were they not indited, remanded till the courts were able to deal with the matter, again slarkness on the part of the law officers. slark slark, slark. big time slarkers.
I am not about to Condone this Act or any other, where the Laws of a Particular Country have been Broken,However,We who are also Sinners seem always so Quick to Judge and Condemn.Let me use the very words of the Master Jesus and say to each one of you who thinks Himself or Herself Perfect.To Each one of you who Believes you are a True Christian.”Cast the First Stone.” Remember that our Love should be unconditional towards All People,and if it isn’t,we are Breaking the Highest Law of the Universe.
REALLY ? MASTER JESUS WOULD NOT CONDON THIS
like as if *gay and loving it* couldnt wait for this day….why dont you just print out a shirt and shout it to dominica..lol…gwarnnnn…..you should have gone and get yourself a white cheek…your bread would be well buttered!!!lol……bruk out lmao..lol…cant help it!
I’m learning alot about my country… Say what you will but I visited a “gay blog” where they were talking about this and some of the people commenting referred to our little island as banana republic, Negro island and other derogatory terms. While I’m not opposed to gay rights I think I’m more concerned with the Trayvon Martin case than I am these two. Besides, these two pleaded guilty to indecent exposure. In the US some people are intolerant and if it is in their own home then it should be expected everywhere else. Personally I’m against in but I have my own sins to worry about so I’m not throwing stones but my opinion is mine and my opinion is it’s wrong. Sorry guys but I’m not afraid of initials or otherwise MY OPINION IS MINE
allu want comments… go there tan lol…. http://travel.newsvine.com/_news/2012/03/22/10810083-2-us-men-arrested-on-gay-cruise-in-caribbean#comments
here’s a preview
“So they should have arrested the “voyeur” who was looking through the window. I assume being a “peeping tom” is also an offense”
so really is being a ‘mete veyer’ a crime in dominica???? lol
Hey, leave Peeping Tom out of this…souplay!!
they should start charging those paros that walkin around naked and playing with themselves infront of school children….i find this was a bit of over kill…they should have been reprimanded for there actions.
i believe that the judge needs to apologize for calling the men those names
No way mon
The magistrate is well within the bounds of “professionalism” to describe the men as ‘rogues and vagabonds’
A rogue is an immoral person and a vagabond is a person living like a vagrant (without a house). Within the context of the incident anyone exposing themselves in public is immoral. That kind of behaviour is for inside your home … so when you do it in public you behave like a vagrant/vagabond (someone without a home).
The persons who chastise the magistrate are those who lack a basic knowledge of the English language; its words and their meanings.
Yes, I am a proud Dominican, and we are intelligent people.
Now vent all you want, you haters.
i am against the name calling and were there really having sex on the balcony or just getting a sun tan……………….poor us
IT’S A GAY SHIP PEOPLE WHAT DID YOU PEOPLE EXPECT. IT’S LIKE ALU WAS LOOKING TO SEE WHAT DEM DOING ON D BOAT.
What you talking about so u never walk on the bathe front and watch the ship well imagine doing that and see too people having sex
The morons in Dominica can’t even feed themselves or control violence on their cesspool island, and they’re worrying about a boy liking another boy or a girl liking another girl? LOL. You’d think they’d spend their scant resources on something more productive. Homosexuals around the world need to start taking WHATEVER actions are necessary to secure their human rights. It is patently unfair that gays and their families suffer from the devastating effects of discrimination, while the bigots leave their lives as if nothing has happened. Bigots need to be made to pay for their discriminatory actions. And shame on Celebrity Cruises and Atlantis for giving support to such a disgusting, backward society like Dominica or letting Dominican authorities on board the ship. And by the way, if those gay Americans are sent to jail, the judge, jailers, and politicians (and their families) that send them there, and Randy Rodney, should be attacked and people all over the world should attack Dominica citizens in their countries. Start with embassy personnel.
Seriously Dno u won’t allow my comments but u
Will allow some vile person to call on to attack da people???
that comment is from someone from the Washington post
American people,have A LOT OF PRIDE and when it comes to something to do with their people they will try to DESTROY the country which hurt them, actually it’s mostly the liberal american we are writing this retarded questions.
hey punk, who d hell you calling moron? so because we not in favour of batty man doing their nastiness in public, we are morons? it’s just that we don’t like playing in s— okay? They digging in pit toilet, and they don’t want to quit. woy oh yoy. watch your toilet, lord have mercy.
Rob you try and attack dominica or dominicans, god created a man and a woman, he created adam and eve not adam and steve keep all you dirty lifestyle to all you selves.
Behavior like the kind displayed by the two men in question is the kind of behavior that incites homophobia and cause people to condemn other gay men for their sexual preferences. The gay community should be out in full force condemning the blatant disrespect and disregard for public decency demonstrated by the two who were arrested on that cruise. That would at least serve to inform the rest of the world that this is not acceptable behavior in the Gay Community. Just because someone is a homosexual does not mean they are depraved and will have sex anywhere the urge takes them. Gay people are foremost people and just like there are perverted heterosexuals who will do things that other heterosexuals don’t agree with and find disgusting and would NEVER CONDONE, so to the GAY community can make the same distinction. So the fact that you are defending that kind of behavior and considers it discrimination to punish them for their vulgar behavior, says a lot about you.
They were not arrested for being gay.. They were arrested for doing it in public…. And all the California new websites makes it sound like they were arrested for being gay… There are a lot of gay Dominicans
DNOOO please, let my 2 little comments go! I will start my own D.N.O. Dominica News Only.
Apology from Rich Campbell the President of Atlantis Events, Inc.
Atlantis Events
Please accept my apology for the late post, we have been at sea for the past 18 hours with limited internet access.
We appreciate the comments on this board regarding the incident in Dominica yesterday, but would sincerely ask that most of you get the facts correct before condemning Atlantis or Dominica for what happe…ned. Here are the facts:
Yesterday morning around 9:30 am two of our guests were seen engaging in a sexual act outdoors on their balcony in full public view of the port and town. Not only did many of the residents witness the act, several of our guests saw this incident as well. The local authorities responded to a complaint by several residents. The two gentlemen were arrested on a misdemeanor charge of public indecency and detained overnight. They appeared in front of the local magistrate this morning, paid a small fine, and were released in full.
Please understand that the complaint and subsequent arrests had nothing to do with the guests’ sexual orientation, nor was any “anti-gay” law invoked. These guests were engaged in behavior that is inappropriate in any port of call, or major city for that matter.
The guests were never left on their own. We had both representatives from Atlantis and Celebrity cruises with them at all times during their ordeal and had our local representatives look after them last night. Furthermore, we worked closely with the US Embassy in Barbados to assure that their safety was always being monitored.
Atlantis had 2000 guests in port yesterday in Dominica and most of them had an outstanding time visiting the country. Celebrity Cruises has been extremely supportive, working with Atlantis to insure these guests’ safety and security despite their detention in Dominica. We commend them for their unwavering support through this incident.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Rich Campbell
President, Atlantis Events, Inc.
SMDFH. thank you for posting this comment and for making this moroons understand what really happened, our country is beautiful and unspoilt we cannot let other people live there contry and come to ours and spoil our good name.
All rational thinking Dominicans should be concerned at this ugly spectacle. No mater what your position on homosexuality is, this is not good for our country internationally.
I am not sure a Judge calling these men vagabonds helps. She is a professional and that is demanded of her. Now we have showed the world that we are so righteous and law abiding citizens – let’s deal with the GON Emanuel case. Where do the righteous pastors stand on this on this one?
its amaze me how some of us are making headlines with our stupidity and dumbness,some of us cant even spell cant pronounce properly,am sure people reading these comments will wonder whether we are from an educated country.
The police do poorlywe beat them up,they do good we beat them up,if these men were not arrested it would have been another thing. Damn you all
well papa, look it for marco is d/ca now. Seems like bus drivers going to be following all you from now on. Be prepared; ministers, busdrivers, teachers, those who work in private businesses, cameras on the lookout for all you. Hope that all you have an account in first caribbean to with draw when caught. Even though is when they catch all you in de hot water in soufriere, and all you go back down in de water thinking all you have plenty lalin.
they should go to screw spa to arrest some folks because enough vibes happening in that hot water for sure. i hope they continue their arrests. And those govt workers that doing it while they out on the job
well i hope when i pass at the gardens and see two men fondling each other and so on..it is ok for me to report or those school children having sex so openly with grown men etc. I hope they are consistant with the charges. even those police men who do it bright day light in govt transport and throwing condoms exactly where they are packed. so tell me now..i watching
I’ve been saying the same things.
Only last week we saw couples in the park going into the bushes (I’m sure they are not Botanists).
There are numerous men walking around Roseau with their privates hanging out.
MOVE ON!! The men apologised, they paid their fines, they knew what they were doing was wrong, they took their chances. It’s not about Homophobia it’s just about laws, they CANNOT do this in any US STATE and get away with it.
Now for those sacre-religious ones, stop JUDGING people. The bible speaks about alot of things, so why this is the only immoral act you all want to get hell bent of shape on?
On Evalina Baptiste I think she went overboard. The name calling was a bit of a reach, I am not happy that she had all that to say to the people, it was uncalled for.
LMAO!! America made world headlines for the Water-Gate scandal, Dominica made international headlines for Bugger-Gate! Mama look it. Got to love DA!
I LOVE MY COUNTRY AND THE FACT THAT AMERICAN FEEL THAT IT IS OK TO HAVE SEX OPENLY WHERE EVER AND HOWEVER A.K.A BUGGERY IF APPAULING AND IM GLAD THAT SOMEONE FINALLY DESIDED TO STAND UP FOR THE RIGHT TO NOT SEE THIS GOING ON. THANK YOU TO WHOM EVER FILLED THE COMPLAINT.
I think it is a case of double standards here. I have witnessed many times when traveling throughout Dominica with my daughter that our men pee by the roadside with their penis exposed. That is a disgusting behavior and indecent exposure but no one call the police. During carnival our young ladies are indecently dressed with all their bodies exposed but no one calls the police. Our mean and even women bate in the rivers naked no one call the police.
we have seen people park their vehicles all sorts of places engaging in sex but no one calls the police.
The list can go on and on. I am anti-gay but I think that this situation was extreme. We ned to enforce this law within our local community because I can bet you there will be many such cases every week infront of the courts.
Is god homophobeic too. Dont u people who agreeing wit this nonsense no your country law. It is wrong for straight or gay people to have sex in public. Tourism is everybody business so how u all want to say is fast some people to fast to notice them men having sex on de boat. Its obvious they saw them. Hello…….. Wake up people and go read your bible and the laws of dominica before u all come and argue. And for u all that for man and man cannot have children and god said be fruitful and multiply. He also said man needed a companion so he took out a rib and made woman which is de opposite of man. Fire……..
Quit blathering on about the Bible and religion. Science and reason have sent men to the moon; religion has sent men in airplanes into buildings to kill thousands. And if you believe a woman came from Adam’s rib and the other old stories you must be smoking some good Dominican ganja.
Good luck when Carnival Corporation (Carnival, Seabourn, Princess, Cunard, Costa ) and the other lines cancel all its cruises to Dominica because thats whats coming… We’ll have to see what the Dominican Taxicab Association thinks of that.
Also, SPELLCHECK people.
what the hell did you ask? ” is God HOMOPHOBIC TOO?” FIRST OF ALL READ THE DAMN BIBLE! THERE ARE SEVERAL SEGMENTS THAT YOU NEED TO FIND SO LET ME HELP YOU. THE BOOK OF CREATION ” ADAM AND EVE”, THE STORIES OF SADDOM AND GAMORA AND LETS NOT FORGET BABALON. IF IT WAS INTENDED FOR MAN TO LAY DOWN WITH MAN WE AS A PEOPLE WOULD BE ASEXUAL OR BETTER YET HERMOPHORIFIC MEANING WE WOULD HAVE BOTH SEXUAL ORGANS. SO IN AMERICA ITS WIDELY DISPLAYED AS OK TO BE GAY BUT IN THE ISLANDS WERE PEOPLE ARENT SO EASILY DUPED BY ITS ILLIGAL. SO IN CLOSING GO HUMP YOUR CLONE.
is not allu business wat dem people do……….dominican people to like bef in dere skin……dey 2 like to spread rumors
(GA SAY MOON LA NO TIBWII) AWA WII PAPA
Why are the DOminican people making this such a huge issue by standing on the roadside like countrybookie. Don’t you all have work to do. Let God be the judge of these people not you.
This event is nothing short of a mockery of Dominica’s archaic Homosexual Law. The country has now been internationally embarrassed by the few uncivilized homophobic people on the island and by the law enforcement for pursuing detaining the two men in question and taking them to court. Really who was making a statement about this ridiculous law? I hope this event will prompt the government of Dominica to repeal this law so that the many civilized Dominicans do not continue to be impacted by this law.
The charge was not about buggery or being gay it was about indecent exposure.
Really Evelina? How the heck u come to labelling those ppl as routes and vagabond? !
*rouges
Gay rights.The death penalty should be appropriate..the bible condems homosexuality.its wrong n upsetting..
should those who commit adultery and fornication face the death penalty also.
I would eat a fish braf now!
some of the damn comments tooo long, you all acting like dogs. please make the comments short. two men were making love and all that comments, well you all like that.
Since when is violating the anus called “love”?
Shame, shame and more shame on my home country for creating this circus! Dominicans need to get a life! I am ashamed that my Nature Island is so homophobic. All the pastors and religious leaders need to seek forgiveness. The Bible says “Judge not unless ye be judged.”
The bible also say, by their fruits you shall know them. And although God loves the sinner he HATES the sin. He also destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah for that very same thing.
This news is now international. Its even back in LA, poor little Dominica what will they do now. They will be remove from the list of islands to visit. I still think that they should have taken another way to deal with this issue.Now the island is major trouble, as no one will come there any more. They have no industry.Not sorry for the island at all, learn to deal with things in another way.
they should plead not guilty let me see where they getting evidence of indecent exposure i know well u cant really see anything properly on the ship from the bay front and all those that say they see will not come to court
I’m all for people having rights but lets get something straight Dominica hasnt been surviving on gay $ like Atlanta or chicago or new york for that matter has . Please get abetter argument. Look fox news anchor said he would go love to visit. Hehehhe. All is not lost. Ministry of tourism need to use this opportunity to show off DA. Poor lady I could only imagine her reaction . Dat how I reacted when I first got to Atlanta. :))) hahh. On another note Da people need to treat people of different sexual orientation with respect. We’re all humans and none of all u name is Jesus.
It’s a shame that some of you even went by the court waiting to see the two men. Get a life….get a job……learn a trade…..read a book.
Way to go Dominicans……the world is watching!!!
I never knew some of my people were so ignorant!
ok i finally reach ….i have to educate you people on the obvious….how soon after they were sen were they arrested…anal sex involves poopooo….did they smell of pooopooo…if no then they did not break any law
seen
ok now i see the chare is no longer sex…it’s indecent exposure….ok…i so wasn’t interested in that nonsense….get a life people….stop child abuse
DNO……..I FIND ALL U HYPOCRITE too! I posted something earlier about this nonsense that some of these hateful people are saying. Why then haven’t you posted my comment????
I wasn’t being offensive or disrespectful by any means. I simply voiced my opinion. Once again, when the tourist in DA was murdered I did not see 500 comments. When the tourist was raped, I did not see 500 comments. I will say this again, indecent exposure or act by a straight person is wrong and indecent exposure or act by a gay person is also wrong.
Some of you guys are going over board and some of these comments are shameful and hateful. I am from Dominica and I have heard that Dominican people are small minded. Today confirmed it all.
I am embarrassed that my people are filled with such intolerance!
There’s so much crime in DA right now and you mean to tell me that all u focusing on these men’s lifesyle. Teach your children to be good citizens and plan your children’s futures instead!
Please accept my apology for the late post, we have been at sea for the past 18 hours with limited internet access.
We appreciate the comments on this board regarding the incident in Dominica yesterday, but would sincerely ask that most of you get the facts correct before condemning Atlantis or Dominica for what happened. Here are the facts:
Yesterday morning around 9:30 am two of our guests were seen engaging in a sexual act outdoors on their balcony in full public view of the port and town. Not only did many of the residents witness the act, several of our guests saw this incident as well. The local authorities responded to a complaint by several residents. The two gentlemen were arrested on a misdemeanor charge of public indecency and detained overnight. They appeared in front of the local magistrate this morning, paid a small fine, and were released in full.
Please understand that the complaint and subsequent arrests had nothing to do with the guests’ sexual orientation, nor was any “anti-gay” law invoked. These guests were engaged in behavior that is inappropriate in any port of call, or major city for that matter.
The guests were never left on their own. We had both representatives from Atlantis and Celebrity cruises with them at all times during their ordeal and had our local representatives look after them last night. Furthermore, we worked closely with the US Embassy in Barbados to assure that their safety was always being monitored.
Atlantis had 2000 guests in port yesterday in Dominica and most of them had an outstanding time visiting the country. Celebrity Cruises has been extremely supportive, working with Atlantis to insure these guests’ safety and security despite their detention in Dominica. We commend them for their unwavering support through this incident.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Rich Campbell
President, Atlantis Events, Inc.”
I didn’t see this many people outside the Court when that Green fella cut a partners head off with a chain saw. Get a life people, or better yet get a job.
i realise u just like them
I did not see this many People when Mr. Isidore had to go to court !Even if the Police were anticipating it and put up all kind of barriers LOL
Laws are written by men. Did you’all forget Slavery was legal once upon a time? Did that make it ok?
so help me udnerstand
you trying to say buggery is ok?
It is amazing to me how people of the islands, Dominica included, quickly snatch a bible and quote line and verse against homosexuality. These same people cant seem to find the line and verse that is against fornication. The numbers of men and women in the islands having children with multiple people to whom they are NOT MARRIED is beyond belief. If you had sex before you were MARRIED then you are a fornicator. Get to know the homos, boys and girls…you will be sitting right next to them on judgement day. (yuh bess believe it) :-))
4,5.. wrongs cant equate a right.
U are so dam right, they use the bible when it is not related to them but when it comes to them they are all god children.
and u can say all what you want buggery still is not biblically or morally right!
You know why God called it abomination and to be dealt with by death in the old testament? cause it is a sin against God himself. God formed the male man out of the dust of the ground and BREATHE into his nostrils the breath of Life and the male man became a LIVING SOUL. Animals do not behave that way. In nature male animals, birds, reptiles fight for dominance and attention of the female species. Why the bibe to fall back on cause ALL scripture is given by the inspiration of God and is profitable for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man or woman of God may be perfect thoroughly furnished unto all good works. That’s what the bible is there for. To guide us and to lead us into all truth. So go learn what it says about everything in life. Cause in the last days, if you do not know the word of God you will not be able to stand against what is going to take place.
Countries Where Homosexuality Is Legal:
The United States, Canada, Mexico, All 27 Countries In The European Union, Norway, Switzerland, Bermuda, Costa Rica, Panama, Aruba, Bahamas, Cayman Islands, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, French Guiana, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Uruguay, Venezuela, India, Nepal, China, Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Thailand
Countries Where Homosexuality Is NOT Legal:
Algeria, Angola, Botswana, Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Tunisia, Namibia, Gambia, Guinea, Senegal, Togo, Djibouti, Ethiopia, Mozambique, Somalia, Uganda, Tanzania, Liberia, Ghana, Nigeria, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Dominica, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Pakistan, Burma, Malaysia, Uzbekistan
The world is changing. People are beginning to understand that respect for Gays and Lesbians is important. Look at the countries where Homosexuality is not legal, do the people of Dominica want to be on this list? Or would you rather join the list of countries that respect the human rights of the LGBT community? Repeal the buggery laws!
classic case of “if one jumps a bridge all should jump”….then guess what…we will all be dead at the end of it all….nonsence!
You forgot to add one more to the “not legal” list. HEAVEN.
But no sin is legal there – anywayz – I am sticking to JESUS eh, I can only give the word of God and let the word convict whoever is humble enough to allow it.
In the end Father God will judge. Who is found guilty will spend eternity in hell who is found righteous will spend eternity in heaven.
Waituubuli…really, it is legal in Heaven…you have a direct line to the Almighty? Educate yourself on the Bible and not just what others tell you or how they interpret it when it comes to homosexuality. What is interpreted by man vs what is the true Word of God are much different. Besides I seem to recall a saying…”Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” It is not for us to judge others.
Correction..”illegal in Heaven?”
YOU MJUST BE ON SOME HIGH OCTANE DRGS OR WORST YOU MAD TO HELL.
U are so right to put that out there, look at the countries Dominica is between, countries that NO one really cares about. Its just sad to see an island that have no economy can have such old laws on the books still in 2012. people get real and wake up.
Hello DNO. In the event you all are giving awards at the end of the year to reward various bloggers on the comments section of your site, I would like to nominate the comments from M.C. Martin and Leon for top prizes in the comments category titled ‘Most illogical and absurd comments of 2012’.
Thanks.
It is not the matter if they are gay. Indecent exposure is for all, man as well as woman. They could have kissed with clothes on, and this would have been a non issue.
U people and selective reporting. Is it legal in JA, St Lucia, SVG, T&T…… Get your facts straight…
Can you also provide us with a list of all the countries where sexual acts performed in public is illegal? I am waiting so please do not let me down.
Dominica is an island in the CARIBBEAN! Where are other CARIBBEAN countries like Barbados, St. Lucia, Antigua, Grenada, St. Vincent, etc mentioned on your list??
They are respected as human beings, their actions and lifestyle choices are what persons have the right as individuals to thrown upon. And if their actions are against the laws of a country then they should be punished simple.
I don’t have a problem with homosexuals, I just don’t want them or heterosexuals as a matter of fact to carry out sexual acts in my face SIMPLE..
This comment is very asinine…what isthere to politicise or rebut?clearly,this is an unfortunate situation that requires no editorialising(especially)LIKE THIS COMMENT ABOVE..
Tell that to Russia. also some US states still have anti-gay laws on the books…
And you know why their economies are falling, cause of this abomination. They have loved the creature more than the Creator (God is who is blessed forever) and turn to lust after their own genders, so God gave them up to dishonour their bodies between themselves. Even the man leaving the natural use of the woman burn in their lust, man with man doing what is disgusting in God’s sight, but they will proceed no further, for the judgement of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men. It just a matter of time people.
Thank you for saying the truth.
this the intimidation that homosexuals are doing to force countries to accept the unacceptable
Could you please add the other caribbean countries where it is illegal as well? Stop being so freaking one-sided.
Well… Dominica finally made the news in NY. This incident was on 3 different local channels talking about, “Is men fondling each other in public really unlawful” and how they wont be visiting this island… smh… there go our national attention
When AMERICA deports you after living there and paying taxes and never getting into trouble for 20 years, just because you came on a tourist visa and overstayed,we say its the law of the country and we must respect it.
So how comes we are wrong to charge them for disrespecting out laws? double standards people
Exactly!
Ok people this is not because of these people being gay.. Get it through you guys head.. Who cares if they gay the point is it was against the law and they had to be dealt with accordingly. For all those who saying ohhh its ashame and ohh “they hope tha stops dominica tourism industry” Allu hearing allu selves… GO IN AMERICA AND GO AND DO SOMETHING WHICH AGAINST THERE LAW SEE IF THEY WILL HAVE MERCY ON YOU. IT COULD BE LITTER YOU LITTER THEY WILL HAVE YOU UNTIDY IN THE STATES. They wouldnt have no face for who we are and if we are tourist visiting there country, once its against their laws they act on it right away so why we Little Dominica Have to let them pass cause they are Americans. People stand up for your country cause as far as i concern they does stand up for their country no matter what.. AND ITS NOT ABOUT THEM BEING GAY BUT BREAKING THE LAW OF INCIDENT ACTS.. WHY ALLU CAN GO NAKED ON THE ROAD AND HAVE SEX WITH ALLU GIRLFRIENDS OR BOYFRIEND PUBLICLY AND LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS..
I won’t try nuh I doh have 2 gran to spare
But I agree whole heartedly with your comment
Stupid Negroes!!!
MOST OF YOU ON HERE SOUND GAY TO ME, STOP PUTTIN MONEY INFRONT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS N GODLINESS, U NASTY PPLE, STOP PROM PROMOTING DEM TINGS DEATH TO ALL WHO SLEEP WITH SAME SEX, N DNO U CAN DELETE MY COMMENT OR DONT PUBLISH IT, ALLU SO PARTIAL
I may share that I think gay is wrong but I won’t share that they should be killed for my perception or yours. unless somebody murders someone or tries to murder someone I don’t believe anyone has the right to take their life
hope you never dies walkey, stay and turn stone
Laws were broken, people were arrested, they admitted guilt, they paid the fines, lets move onto the big problem, damage control. There has to a person or persons who have to be incharge of making sure the reason for the arrest was justified. This can potential damage Dominica’s image due to the fact that it could been seen as homophobic.
the damage is not yet even begun. Elephant man cannot hold a show in england to this day, because he sang against gays
I Notice alot of Dog face here on this site Gay Based on The Comments I saw Higher up and dem wa Bun Fire on their own country but Mi ha to Bun dem Batty man dem Strickly……….. I rate dem Police High on keepin our standards of our Country…….
What a cogent clear headed argument in favor of your position. Bravo to Dominican higher education.
Some of the comments here are worse that the incidents itself. Only if we could refrain from showing the international community how idle and ignorant we can be, even though we do not agree with what went on.
You can say that again. They broke DA’s law. They paid the fine. Nuff said.
Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma and Montana all have anti-sodomy laws, plus there are others. So why are people crying down on Dominica.
It is so ridiculoussomething as trivial as this would get so much voverage and attention. Arent there more important things? See the number of people who are free to go to the court to see these two men doesnt that tell about our unemployment situation? The men violated our laws they were punished so why all this. Hope you dont feel bad when you go to their country and is treating like a dog. Then again it is people like me who suffer for your sake since your low mindedness is a clear sign that you have never travelled internationally.
dominicans dont know how to act. they always in front.nosy set of people. the men broke our law, they got punished that shoulda been all that happened, cause these men arent even going against being punished. but how dominicans acted towards the gay cruise is just wrong. it’s called prejudicial and it’s not allowed anywhere in the world.
Before I even read that update that’s exactly how I thought that situation would play itself out….let the courts do their work and let the police decide if it’s a legitimate claim to make an arrest…in the meantime the rest of you should go do something to restore your country’s good name….sometimes the misinformation comes from you and you don’t even know it…
Before I even read that update that’s exactly how I thought that situation would play itself out….let the courts do their work and let the police decide if it’s a legitimate claim to make an arrest…in the meantime the rest of you should go do something to restore your country’s good name….sometimes the misinformation comes from you and you don’t even know it…
they are not right 4 doing this in public but stop acting like they are the only bugger man, am against homosexualite but we have alot in our countries so why we want 2 pray 4 other’s let’s pray 4 those in our feet fisrt.christian or not we all have some friend, family or people we know that are homo and we still deal with them.
I want to thank defense lawyer Bernadette Lambert for being an advocate and a lonely voice speaking out against anti-gay targeting.
I am impressed with how quickly this case was dealt with and pleased with the outcome. I think Dominica has handled it well in terms of striking a balance between penalising and letting the world know that the arrest was justified. Afterall if they admit to indecent exposure, then the fine/arrest is well-deserved.. though I must wonder if the same person that saw these two had seen a straight couple like this, if it would have been reported at all. As for everyone using buggery laws as an excuse- these laws are outdated and no matter what you will find when you type in dominica in to google (currently homophobia and tourist crime is rife- probably best not to go there)that law will always shine a bad light on Dominica in the eye of Western countries. I am pretty sure that many straight couples in Dominica practice anal sex and no-one would ever think of that as buggery. Should they be arrested too then??? It goes to show that homophobia really is rife, and though I am sure the majority of Dominicans are OK with it as long as it is kept quiet, those who express hatred do it far too freely and in far too much comfort.
Get this straight. We are in need of God $ not Gay $. We may be ‘brokes” but certainly not hungry.
Dominica’s are to damn naive, they fail to realize that there are gays all over this world,and one does not have to accept it, and why didnt they just charge them and send them on their way,am embarassed as a Dominican to see such a spectacle being made over this, do we not realized yet the world we are living in. And to make matters worse,sto being hypocrites.”DOMINICA WAKE UP,YOU DONT HAVE TO ACCEPT PEOPLE BEING GAY, BUT I’D RATHER SEE THE MANY OF OUR DOMINICAN MEN WHO HAS THEIR WIVES AND KIDS AT HOME LEAVE AN OPENLY GAVE LIFE, THAN TO LIVE ON TH DOWN LOW,AND SPREADING AIDS TO OUR WOMEN BECAUSE THEY FEEL THEY HAVE TO LEAVE A DOUBLE LIFE. OF AND BY THE WAY,AM A HAPPY STRAIGTH WOMAN
CORRECTION: THAT WAS I’D RATHER SEE OUR DOMINCAN MEN LEAVE AN OPENLY GAY LIFE STYLE EVEN THOUGH I DO NOT SUPPORT IT, THAT TO LEAVE A DOUBLE LIFE WHILE SPREADING AIDS AMONG OUR WOMEN.AND I KNOW IT’S NOT ALL GAY MEN HAS AIDS, STRAIGHT WOMEN AS WELL AS MEN.
There is just something about mountains that make people go crazy… riigggght!
But this appears to be an old man and a young lad. Anyway, we accept your apology, but change your ways. Horny as you get, have some dignity.
BUT WAIT…THESE PEOPLE STANDING OUTSIDE THE COURT, THEY DONT WORK?…I SEE MY CO-WORKER…SHE BETTER HOPE DE BOSS DONT READ DNO!!!
“an act like that, two naked men in direct view of the public is an outrage of public moral in any country”…..what about the so many mental people on the island….
OK people, they apologized and paid their fines and leaving the island. Let’s move on. If Dominicans so against gay why are some of you lined up by the court?
Well it’s just the gay system!!just for money! they have to respect DA law. They think that they can come to the carribean to do what they want!!!
To all Dominicans. What the people did is wrong but who are we to condemn? As the bible states he who is without sin cast the first stone. Are any of you without sin? Or do you think that your sin is smaller than theirs. All sins are equal. Think about that before you open your mouths. And to the pastors who want to make a fuss about it stop the fornication and adultery first as pastors before you make comments.
The real disgrace here is Atlantis Events, the company chartering the ship, taking a cruise ship full of their well paying gay passengers to an island where they would be targeted for being who they are, gay, is an absolute outrage. When booking an Atlantis Cruise or vacation we all expect the company to put our safety and security first and take us to places we are welcome.
haha…I guess the people of Dominica dont need money….I mean look at all those in line looking at the people leaving the courthouse! Your people are just sad!
see the number of people that there to mind them man business. when they finish they will ask skerritt why the country doe have money.
Hope this results in scratching Domenica from all future stops. They need the gay $ much more than the gays need their homophobic island.
lmao!!!
The Heavenly Father shall supply all our needs according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
stop your crap. Money is not all that matters. Good moral values are much more important than a few dollars.Will you corrupt your country for a few dollars. Judas sold the master for a few dollars. He regretted and went and hung himself.
They were not even charged 1000 u s dallars?
They should have spent a few nights in our jail.
Good Miss Baptist. They are nothing but rogues and vagabonds. NASTY.
So jah homophobeic to then. I never no that. I have to read de bible again. Educate yourself about the laws of dominica and read your bible. Then come back an tell me wat they saying about this issue. Money is de root of all evil and dominica survive years without gay cruise so get your fact straight.
Dominica built it self on hardworking u fool not ripping of peopls hardwork. So get off that horse u riding . Gays deserve respect and they also need to show it!
DNO, Do you consider this to be professional journalism? Following these men all the way to the bank, our levels are way below.
But why you vex DNO moving like a real CIA on the watch naaahh?
Dominicans have no sense of decorum it’s sad. We have real issues in the country and instead of focusing on them we here following two people just to mind their business. They did the crime, they paid the fine move on!
Half the people here crying about morals and values having premarital sex or prostituting themselves or committing adultery. They have daughters jumping from one man to the next and sons going to schools with weapons to attack other students. It’s sad! We always conveniently know when to remember about morals. We never know where our priorities lie in that country. Send the people back where the come from and go and focus on yourselves and your minuscule lives! Go and find work to do.
are you people serious????? You watch that kinda on american media ALL the time and enjoy it!It gets far worse that this. Hellooooooo? Ever heard of the fricking paparrazzi?
Now you wanna take DNO to task? get a life!!!!!!
What do you know about professional journalism?? This type of journalism is done all over the world!!! Allya too like to critize your own!!!
I agree with you..They were found guilty and given their punishment..Why follow them all the way to the bank man…Come on….They are humans too with a heart…The reports said they showed remorse and were sorry..Lets forgive them now..
what none sense you talking there nuh
Why should the judge have labelled them as such….
I understand they went against the law…but to call them such name only makes her look unprofessional..
So very true.
Agreed. She was quite unprofessional to do so.
She was too extreme in her choice of words. Besides their sexual orientation, she has no clue what these person’s characters are like, yet she calls them rogues and vagabonds. And whether or not she knows anything about them she should show a little more respect for the position she holds. Her job is not to criticize people’s characters. Very unprofessional.
Time will tell this country will pay dearly for that, even if the action contravens our laws
CIA on the watch,
So you think it’s this government that’s incharge of this country. Where is God’s place in this land. Psalms says that God can just touch the mountains and they smoke. Count the mountains in Dominica, and see where people live, right under them.Dont provoke God, we claim to be a God fearing nation. Do you want God to judge this pebble of an island in his sight, for those that perform (in secret), excusing and supporting this kind of behaviour. Where is your morality and integrity.
My Sentiments exactly !Some years ago Morne Canoe Starting shaking and magma was measured to have reached 1 kilometre under the surface,The price od real estate fell,Many prayed and the rising magma stopped !
DO NOT PROVOKE GOD!
Besides Morne Canoe there is Morne Au Diable,Diablotin,Trois Pitons,Anglais,Watt,Macaque,Plat Pays,Patat,Soufriere and still the potential for a new one .We have a Cauldera which is a combination of several volcanoes turning into one big one ! Part of this Cauldera is submarine.There are 2 types of Caulderas ,Exploding and collapsing .Either way we would be doomed !
Let us Pray
Amen
so what’s your point? Why don’t we just let everybody who contravenes our law off
Its a Damn shame D/ca is all over the internet and it’s not even for something good..SMH
Wow! your statement is so far off any type of morality, or law compass, it’s scary. Right and wrong is not something you seem to understand or appreciate.
Dominicans stand up for righteousness. If you do not you will fall under the judgement of God. God is ready to judge Dominica, so be careful how you live.
Get save people before its too late.
You know as a Dominican living abroad for a number if years it’s interesting some of the comments being written on DNO. To those of you who practice christianity remember God said vengeance is mine and I will repay. There is nothing one can do with an individual who chooses to practice the gay life style. It is contrary to the scriptures. When one says it is wrong we are not judging them because the good book says they will not enter Heaven unless they repent before they close their eyes in death. To to ones who do not follow the christian life style we are not judging anyone. Christ certainly did not condo this life style. When the woman was caught in the act of adultery and was brought to Christ He forgave her but also asked her to forsake the life style she was living, so obviously her practice was not in accordance with what HE ask us to practice. To those who think nothing should be done to them you all are way off base. If the laws are broken there is a consequence and the powers have dealt with it let them deal with the powers that be because it they had done this act publicly in CA and were caught they would have to deal with the Justice system of CA. Remember there is a story in the Old Testament of a group of men trying trying to break down LOt’s door to get at messengers of God who looked male. The end result is that they were al blinded. So people for Christ leave these people alone the good Lord will deal with them in His own time.
Were they punished for being gay? Dominica have gay men and women you know! Keep your bible toting spirit to yourself. NONE of us have the right to advocate morality to consenting adults. They violated a law and not even in the US would they get away for such public display. Move on
Amen! Dominica’s reputation is now firmly damaged as a homophobic island. We have openly gay men and women living in Dominica. Who cares about someone’s life style or who they decide to associate with? This could have been a shot in the arm for tourism. We missed the boat again, literally.
God judges so we don’t have to ->
L6:37 M7:1 “Judge not, and you shall not be judged: condemn not, and you shall not be condemned: forgive, and you shall be forgiven.”
M7:1 “Judge not, that ye be not judged”
The following is a direct quote from KTLA News and one which I want to identify with…
“KTLA legal expert Manny Medrano says that, gay or straight, this is not just about homophobia.
“Let’s be candid, having sex in public is probably a crime in most civilized countries,…” including the United States,” Medrano said
exactly but they were nt having sex, because they are gay, i hope wen them parrow aka junkie’s walking in roseau with their dick outside ya’ll do something too them as well, bc it aint good for the little kids. Dominicans are so small minded people. thats why its a 3rd world country
Island nations beware: rich gay tourists do lots of drugs. These cruises cost a lot of money, and they are what the gays call “circuit parties” where most, not all, do mass amounts of drugs, because they can afford them.
cruises dont cost alot of money silly…US$300-400 if not less.
It’s frightening!!! You mean to tell me Dominicans are willing to mortgage their salvation for a few tourist dollars. I am very scared for the future of this country.
For some reason we seem to have everything mixed up…..is homosexuality wrong people or is it right….like all other sin. Is it wrong, right or in between. You all need to make up your mind. It is biblically wrong, it is also illegal in Dominica.
I see scientist trying to argue that some people were born gay, I say nooooooooo, because my bible cannot be wrong…..it speaks about both men and women losing their natural use and turning to shameful passion.
People there is no in between, is either we are right or wrong, good or evil.
Maybe this is why as a nation we are failing and we are now grasping at straws, because we have turned our backs from God and has forfeited our inheritance.
It’s not all lost, for those of us who still have life, let’s turn this curse around and send the gay spirit exactly where it needs to be.
you as a nation are failing because you want to stick in the 12th century! But its good that this has come to light because now all you “good” people can suffer on your land without any tourist money coming in !
You tallying like most people around the world supporting gays and I’m guessing yr from america if u are there is life outside of America as you’re discovering America is one of the few places where homosexuality and gay marriage are become accepted and part of the norm most places don’t accept it as a normal everyday thing
@ Jena, actually far more countries have homosexuality as legal than have it illegal, and the vast majority the countries with big spending tourists are gay supportive.
When something happen you kind like to use the bible. How typical are u.
madam evalyna need to go and learn some professionalism ………………but don’t worry we love the americans and hate their biscuits when you see that start to squeeze us for visa we go find out
I thought once on the ship,the ship’s registered country’s laws took precedence ? Am I wrong ? Or is this still “illegal” in the country where this ship is registered.
Not excusing the behaviour because I mean, you have a cabin. You should USE IT !! But my humble foreign opinion is that this is being blown out of proportion. Let them pay their fine, let them go back.And next time maybe if you are so opposed to the idea of homosexuality,instead of scourging with your hatred or *chopping them to bits* you can just simply ask them not to come. Just putting that idea out there.
Then bring them to Barbados. This is nothing against GAYS, we know how you roll in Badoes, don’t use this isolated incident to spread your hatred. Barbados is known to harrass and jail documented professional Caribbean people with tickets in transit, so fall way back! Even the men admitted they got carried away. Personally I feel they should have been dealt with immediately and returned to their ship. ENOUGH of the slamming of Dominica!!!! We have laws like everywhere else and stop with the homophobia.
You are dead wrong my friend, if the ship was in what in considered international waters they could do what ever the laws of the ship says they can do but when you are in a port of call you must abide by the laws of the land wherever the ship is docked. Take a good look of the laws of you land and you can verify what I have just posted.
They were in Dominican territorial waters within Dominican jurisdiction, the alleged acts took place in Dominica so they are punishable in Dominica.
I agree with you 100%
They are in Dominica waters not International waters so the laws of Dominica applies.
Dominicans to hypocrite my dear friend the hate the Gays but they want their boats to dock here so that can enjoy the GAY DOLLAR
you ever see the light whilst they call down fire and brimstone the ministers,police officers, lawyers etcso gay they beyond gay taking all man that pass
Observing Bajan,
If it is one thing you cannot stop is free speech in this country. Some who have no clue about laws, neither the cruise ship industry, but they will talk anyway. You and I just have to let them roll their tongues because empty vessels make the most noise.
Exactly what you said is what happened. They were asked to pay a fine and leave. What’s your issue. If it was gay prosecuting why were the other two thousand homosexual men not harassed or arrested. why just these two? Also for clarification even if you are on a ship once you enter a country’s territorial waters (12 miles off the coast) you are bound to the laws of that country unless the waters are not exclusively owned by the country like in the case of cuba which has a US owned portion utilized for a prison and military reasons. EVERY country has laws to be respected by visitors and citizens alike.
dominicans seeing murder robbery rape child sexual abuse drug dealing rite in their eyes everyday they not reporting they see anything but is two homos on ship out in the sea they can barely see but the causing a big scene
i agree with you it happened so lets move on and place all this energy where it is need
I agree with you.
hypocrites u call them some-times they them selves frequent those kind of people.who do not have a friend or family that is homo
tell me about it when they know friend or neighbour taking the 12 yr old why they don’t call down murder……………….when those man in Dominica go and bend in the night why they doesn’t bawl those blasted hypocrite
thats why Dominica will stay backward
Today is gay men. Tomorrow all u forget about them when they sentence the family from soufriere.
Just saying
If they had sex in view of people on the dock, they should have been arrested and charged with indecent behavior — the charge they eventually pleaded guilty to and for which they will pay a fine. The word “buggery” should never have been raised.
Domenica should take this opportunity and decriminalize homosexual sex. It is wrong to make criminals out of ordinary people minding their own business and living their lives.
If you going to talk about DOMINICA the spell the blasted name correct.
A.A!!
Ok, then so nastiness should be against the law.
Bobn
If you have the Spirit of God living in you as a Human Being created after God’s image you would not support that lifestyle. It’s because your foolish is darkened that’s why like Lot’s wife, in Sodom you are supporting it.
It was two men having sex whatever way u look at it ….the police or whoever choose not to file that claim because it takes time either way two me two women having sex is buggary and it was two men having sex on the boat
for you to notice people having sex on the balcony of a ship you had to be looking for it cause u can barely see anything on the ship from the bayfront the people does appear so small you cant really make out any thing
Of all the ports in all the world they decide to show their c$$$s here. Too funny.
Well at least they got us talking about the issue.
Still NOBODY should be doing sexy things like that where children can see … gay sex or straight.
Let’s pray for our country. Let’s utilize the lenten season wisely. Pray and pray more. We are facing a social war, both internal and external. More Prayers Dominicans. “ojo con eso”
dominica – what is it? microcountry of stupid people.
Jk whoever u are please live us dominican debate this issue peacefully. Dont u there call us stupid people before i get cross. D n o safe u this time from my tongue. Let it not happen again.