Four persons, including one woman, will appear at the Roseau Magistrate’s Court on the November 21 to face 13 charges brought against them collectively.
The charges include possession of illegal firearms including an AK-47 and possession of various types of ammunition. They appeared in court today and were granted bail.
Levi Gregoire, Aaron Gregoire and Louis Gregoire of Grand Bay and Suzelle Gama of Guadeloupe pleaded not guilty to all the charges put forth by the Police Prosecution, which included possession of the AK-47, a silver pistol slide, two pistol magazines and nine rounds of 30-30 ammunition, among others.
The weapons were discovered when police raided a house in Grand Bay on the morning of August 12.
Magistrate Evalina Baptiste granted bail in the amount of $32,000 for Levi Gregoire and two sureties, Mandy St .Luce and Cleville Gregoire, pledged the amount. He is required to report to the Grand Bay Police station every Wednesday between 7 am and 7 pm and to relinquish all travel documents to the court.
The three defendants were released on bail amounts that had been accepted previously. All three must surrender all travel documents to the court. Defense attorney Wayne Norde requested that the bail conditions for Louis Gregoire, who is considerably older that the other defendants, be set in consideration of his age and a current medical condition.
Aaron Gregoire and Suzelle Gama are to report to the Grand Bay Police station every Monday, while Louis Gregoire will report every other Monday, between 7 am and 7 pm.
Magistrate Baptiste reminded the accused of the consequences of their bail stating, “If you breach the conditions of your bail, that is, if you do not show up at court [on the day appointed], bail will be withdrawn. Bail may also be withdrawn if you fail to report on the days that you are expected to do so.”
The AK-47 (Avtomat Kalashnikova-47) is a selective-fire, gas-operated assault rifle, first developed in the Soviet Union. It is capable of firing over 600 rounds per minute.
Things happen and u supposed to have the right to bare arms
we in de pipeline
Blast grandbay as the worst community as all u like but there is no other community in dominica with maximum love and solidarity among their villagers like grandbarians in good times and bad times u guys need to respect that! So chat to our backs haters,grandbay is the cultural capital of DA test that! Am really wondering y so many students from roseau and other communities attends the g/bay high school yet still g/bay ppl still bad well sa
GRANDBAY WE COME OUT
AK-47 gun in Dominica? I reside in Canada. I have heard of AK-47 but I did not even know what AK-47 stands for. I guess that guns do not interest me and so I did not pay attention to the meaning. I do know that they are dangerous guns. This type of gun appears to be one which is used in the Army.
In Dominica you say? How did those guns get into Dominica? This is a serious matter. It is obvious what they would eventually do with them.
Once again Dominica Immigration for air, land and sea must ensure that those guns are not imported to Dominica – meaning transported.
Lord, help Dominica and the Immigration officers, those who are responsible to perform their jobs efficiently and honestly at the Airport and on the Jetty, in Customs for the safety of Dominica, its nationals, visitors and those who make Dominica their home.
I doh even know why all the huffing and puffing .They gonna get fined fines are going to be paid without even blinking an eye.No biggie people,remember all u already crown us as kings of obeah so those are the times we put it to good use.CHORE!!!!!!!
Why didnt it warn them of a police raid.
Has your obeah given you/family a better standard of life, good health and peace of mind.
Pay the fine if thats all they get and give thanks.
THE SAME A.K. USED ON MWUNGA FREEMAN. HMMMMMMM JUST WONDERING
Were these people preparing for war..Now the comment that the guns wer not belonging to the two guys is pure crap…If it was found at their homes, then they should be more severely punished than the true owner(s)..We call people like these in patois SOO TI WER..
I WONDER WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO WITH
THESE HIGH POWER GUNS PLAN A MASSACRE?
THANKS GOD THEY WERE FOUND BEFORE ANY
DAMANGE WAS DONE. THE BAIL SHOULD BE HIGHER
SO OTHERS WILL THINK TWICE OF TRAFICING GUNS.
Some of all u askin where these guns come from maybe well all u children that bring them guns to Dominica stop question about other people buniness and question all u children first mind all u own business n for all those that rejoyceing all u have better things to do mind all u own business
when people eyes set like a saul that only seeing on one side, you really think they would suspect their own children?? they think to themselves that that’s preposterous. but the absurd is often found to be the truth, DominicanS talk of these young people like they are not their own….but is OUR children, because is DOMINICAN CHILDREN. so people, forget the THEY!!!! BECAUSE IT IS US!!! ALL OF US TOGETHER. it could just as easily be YOUR child that may have made ONE WRONG CHOICE or find themselves going astray. is OUR young people, because is DOMINICAN YOUNG PEOPLE. who will they have after their own people give up on them….TALK TO THEM, TEACH THEM, HELP THEM, SHOW DEM. TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THEM. BECAUSE THEY ARE OUR OWN..
WEST I WISH NOTHING BAD ON YOU BUT WE REAP WHAT WE SOW AND WHAT WE HELP TO GROW.
how those the laws of dominica find someone guilty of a crime? The last time i check someone is innocent until proven guilty. The law officers has to go through all proof possible to ensure that one of those guys found in the house or houses belongs to them. You need to check the serial number of the gun where it was purchased when and if possible a purchase receipt showing one of the guys mentioned name. By the way the lawyer behind the case is a former PDD of dominica and he knows exactly how to embarrass the goverment present PDD. FEAR NOTHING MY PEOPLE OF GBAY AND FRIENDS AND FAMILY OF THESE GUYS. JAH WILL SET YOU ALL FREE.
Well all I can say is that them man is good people and not trouble makers. Is just a shame they got caught in this nonsense. And I mean why even arrest the old man? Fufu cannot buss no gun and the police them know that. Any hoo I am all for guns and I think every citizen should have the right to own them not just the police. Silver and Dice keep allu head up.
The police should search every house in Grandbay.That is the sickest place in Dominica.This place needs to be cut off from the map.give them their own airport ,harbour and thier own government.THe people in grandbay has no respect for law and order.a bunch of hopeless set of people that quick to encourage evil.POLICE THAT GOOD FOR GRANDBAY BAY PEOPLE.ALL U WILL RESPECT THE POLICE.
my gosh, may u get tenfold of what you wish for grandbay people….
All u love to cry down grandbay when things like that happen.But when all u BOTTOM in trouble in another village or even overseas all u quick to mention how is grandbay all u come out or have family there.Why?I guess because u know we do not take crap from anyone and we are not rats(snitches).We take care of business our way.A lil jail time never hurt,de boys will be well compensated for keeping it real.CHORE!!!!!!!!!!
Hopeless set of people u say huh?Pierre charles(former primes minister R.I.P) Ensley pierre (former chief of police)Present President of dominica,Phillip Francis aka Unicef(leader of the 74 uprising and that’s just to mention a few.I’m pretty sure u can tell by the above few names we are born to lead.oops i forgot the guy that jump over u when u was a kid sleeping in the dirt floor living room on his way to the bedroom,i’m pretty sure he was from grandbay too.
@ vip
What town or village are you from and were brought up in? Oh please, cease your ignorant, discriminating, hatred and rant. People are people in every country, city, town and village. There are good and bad people in all those places. You must not generalize and brand Grand Bay and its people. You committed a grave error. It is a sin against God Himself.
I wish to further comment that Our Lord Jesus Christ said, “The insults and reproaches of those who do (to you) fall on Me.”
Vip, do you know what VIP means? It means a very important person. Are you? If you are and possess class and dignity, you will conduct yourself accordingly even when providing your comments.
if you know what is contained in Holy Scripture, please give this a good thought and when you comment in the future. If you do not know learn from this.
It means that our God of love who taught us to love one another will punish those who insult, demean and reproach others. They will not escape God’s wrath and justice.
WHILE I AGGREE THAT MORE SEARCHES SHOULD BE DONE, YOU CANNOT PUT EVERYONE IN YOUR BASKET.
YES THERE ARE LOTS OF ENCOURAGERS OF BAD THINGS GENERALLY AND MORE PERSONS SHOULD PAY, BUT THEY WILL ALWAYS GET BAIL BECAUSE THE PRISON IS MUCH TOO SMALL- EVEN MURDERERS ARE OUT ON BAIL.
What the Hell you talking about why don’t you cut out the other places that have crime out of the MAP , some of allu just fool of shit we grand bay ppl don’t need to leave GRAND BAY WI are not SO quick to jump in allu but ALLU always so quick to jump to uS anytime allu hear sumthing up with grand bay allu chatting when it happens other places allu mouth SHUT….. BACK THE hELL UP
why was bail granted…i thought skerrit said these people will be sent straight to jail.
and by these people i mean those who posses illegal guns…come on skerrit
you know what concerns me is the calibre of weapon that is found.these weapons are not easily come upon by the local civilians not even the polce here have thse,but the ak’s are russian made and are mainly used by armed gangs in central,south america and the other developing countries.so if u people dont know about ak’s its one of the worlds most dangerous weapon.how did it get here? its not who have it but where did it came from n who brought it here, not about these people shouldnt be arrested and all that crap.dominica is still our paradise tosave so lets come together to save it. not sure if we know how serious it is but havingan AK 47 at your home is serious shit.everyone one who occupied the house shud be on remand trust me so they will feel the pinch n say whose own it is.it’s not a joke,and the grandbarians who contd to get proceeds from the gug lords one day u would wish u cud go to the shop to buy bread.tato tato.one good day
I agree, how on earth did they get a AK47. How did it get on the island. Were they preparing for war?
2 (two) rounds from a deadly weapon like that would wipe out every one in a village.
A bit of clarification here. The AK47, created by Mikhail Kalashnikov from Russia, is not anymore dangerous than any other rifle of the same caliber. The calibre, rate of fire, velocity and range is on par with other weapons in its class.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
The one thing that a kalash, as they call it in Russia, has over similar weapons is its reliability of its design. I have used many versions of Kalashnikovs during my time in the military in Africa and anyone who lives in a place with bad weather or conditions and happen to want a rifle should aspire to have an AK47 for the sake of its reliability in extreme, harsh environments.
All of this said, the gun is the most ‘popular’ (not dangerous) gun in the world because of its reputation of reliability not due to its dangerousness. As far as danger goes that comes down to the person holding the gun. It would be interesting to know if it was a fully-automatic version or a semi-automatic. Both are made and both are fairly common in different parts of the world.
I for one, am more concerned about the gentleman I saw at Mero beach wearing civilian clothes and a camouflage jacket sitting at the bar drinking cas rum holding what appeared to be an M4. Granted the M4 can only fire a three round burst in the full-auto position but you can send those bursts of fire as quickly as you can move your finger. A 30 round magazine can be emptied in less than 10 seconds and nobody should ever want to be inside a bar when 5.56x45mm rounds start flying around at over 800 meters per second. I asked him if his safety was on and then promptly left.
As heated as I have seen some debates get at local bars I am far more concerned with this guy than someone in Grand Bay hiding out with an AK47. Who most likely closes their eyes when they fire the weapon; making them highly in-accurate. You may not believe me that this happens but I have seen trained soldiers do this in battle many times. All their shots go high.
I did a Google search for ‘worlds most dangerous weapon’ and it confirmed my theory. Out of 6+ pages of search results I only came across 2 AK47. What I did notice was lots of white PEOPLE, brown PEOPLE, black PEOPLE even a PERSON that looked a bit green and a blue frog. I think it is confirmed that the most dangerous weapon is PEOPLE.
Look for yourself.
BAIL!!!! BAIL!!!! BAIL!!!!
DO YOU CONFISCATED ALL OF THEIR GUNS. WHAT WHEN YOU SAY WHEN THE NEXT NEXT MURDER ON THE ISLAND IS ONE OF THEM?
Police found ak 47 etc but they not talking about the young boy they rough up that morning when the were doing their search at the home so when people start to put thing in their a** and they start getting f up i know ppl will ask what they do! Because they always saying police doing a good job yes i agree i have nothing against them but they need to stop abusing people and all these things stays hidden behind the curtains no police is been charged.YO KA SAV SA!
amen to that one again…y they not sayin what they did..like they came to kill everybody in the house…and y when ppl asked why they doin that, hear wa they say “allu want me to go with allu too, shut up” and they even point dere gun on a lady for askin y they goin with the baby
you do have something against them stop pretending. you’re just another one of them. hypocrite…like to blame the police.stop hiding the aids drug lords and them.
@ Taking action
Prior to making such comments, first find out the truth of what occurred. Did the boy try to prevent the Police from searching the house? If he did this is obstruction which is a crime.
When the Police stop anyone and also when the Police is conducting a search, they must never be obstructed.
The person that is being searched or interrogated be it at their home, must remain calm, respond respectfully and allow the Police to conduct their duty.
If per chance they were roughed up and for no reason, then they can lodge a complaint against the Police. People must never take the Law into their hands.
guns and guns police and teeef
MR COMMISSIONER, ARE YOU TAKING NOTE SIR? IT’S FRIGHTENING? ISN’T IT?
OK OK OK, QUESTION::::
1: how many people believe that the police are the only people who should possess firearms????? (apart from those who hold licenses and have firearms for hunting purposes)
2: If we are and unarmed civilian population, do you think it would be right for the police and military to draw guns and point at people every time they conduct a search. i have had a police point his M16 at me and all i was doing was driving on government road???
3: what would happen to us if we really did have a demonstration and the police were sent out to kill a few of us and make examples of a few protesters crackdown style????
i’m just curious, from watching syria and all the other news around the world……..I wonder what it would be like….. knowing the nation that we are, always ready to surrender
note: I do not condone this powerful weapon being in the possession of anybody other than a trained educated and sound minded firearm license holder….. this is no little 22 caliber weapon
are you mr *moores wife??? i dont even understand what it is that you are saying ??? i am as lost as anyone else who would read your commen.. ..uh objecti…. umm what ever you wrote there.
YOU LOOKING AT TOO MUCH TELEVISION
The real reason these guys were arrested is because some refuse to talk and the others knew nothing of the weapons in the house.By the way three houses were search before the weapong was discovered.I and most grandbayrians know the weapon doesn’t belong to none of these people arrested.These folks are good people in the village never even hurt a fly in their lifetime. The only thing some of the people arrested are guilty of is allowing some criminal to store said weapon at his home for a fee.The others were just in one of the three dwellings searched.SSU know very well the weapons don’t belong to them they just being punished for not saying who it belongs to.THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT DOH WORRY.
I argee with you neg lalay…I truely believe the guns belongs to someone else. Most likely the person asked them to keep it at their home because the are quiet people and never have any problem with the law…. It was not a good idea for them to do so, they MAYBE were protecting a friend or so called friend. Hopefully the person who owned the guns will pay the fines….. I still can’t believe that this happened to these guys.
They are just as guilty.Your must not “sootiweh” (harbour) criminals and their illegal weapons.
I wonder how many people talking there really know these guys and the kind of people they are……because if you all knew them, half of the comments would not be written……No one is saying they should have the guns and yes they should be punished, but for the police to search them out of everybody else in the area………..hummmmm………strange
first of all thats not what they found and dem police kno what goin on
SO WHY WE SOOTIWEHING THE PM AND HIS CITIZENSHIP NONSENSE??? though I not making excuse for criminals BUT WE MUST HOLD EVERYONE TO THE SAME STANDARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
amen to that
So y d hell they storing guns for ppl…
who tell u they storing guns for ppl
That is the million dollar question! What they did was wrong. That is the reason why we are becoming such a lawless society – We want to condone certain actions and expect crime to miraculously vanish b/c we play “heal our nation” on DBS after every tragedy! we all have a part to play in haulting criminal activity – a crucial part of which is NOT to cover up wrong doing regardless of who does it!!
Ok …so by your logic, because the weapons do not belong to them they are innocent!!!!!!!!!!
That’s what i cannot tolerate – HYPOCRISY! THE WEAPONS ILLEGAL – STORING THEM IS ILLEGAL – SO THEY ARE COMMITTING A CRIME.
It does matter how “nice” they were…they had guns in their possessions. If its not theirs – then they should say who it belongs to. If they want to take blame for a charge that’s not due to them – so be it…at the end of the day – the weapon was found in their homes. It’s up to them to prove the owner of the weapons – not for the police to do. The police arrested them because they had possession of it.
Sometimes all you too wicked…if they so innocent – why are they storing the weapons? If that weapon were used to kill someone and all you found out that these people were storing it, it would be a different story.
it’s illegal to store illegal weapons – PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They are not innocent of having the weapons found in their homes
SO IS THE PM DUAL CITIZENSHIP ISSUE. so wrong for some is a BIG ISSUE and wrong for others is small like a grain of sand??????
if this is the case they should get a tougher punishment than the true owner.
@ Neg lalay
Then they must be honest and inform the Police/Court accordingly.
Those who are caught with stolen and prohibited goods are equally responsible and guilty. This is the Law.
ARE YOU FOR REAL SON??? THIS ITEMS ARE FOUND IN THESE PEOPLE HOUSE AND YOU SAYING THAT TYHEY ARE BEING PUNISHED BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SAYING WHO IT BELONGS TO. WHO CARES WHO IT BELONGS TO THE ITEMS WERE FOUND AT THEIR HOUSE THEY ARE IN POSSESSION OF THE GUNS AND AMMUNITION. IF YOU KNOW WHO IT BELONGS TO GIVE THE INFORMATION AND IF THEY CHOSE NOT TO SPEAK THEN THEY HAVE DECIDED TO FACE THE CONSEQUENCIES FOR WHATEVER PAY THEY RECEIVE. IF I WERE YOU AND THATS THE POST I WAS GOIG TO SHAREI WOULD NEVER POST A COMMENT. YOU SEEM TO LACK BASIC COMMONSENSE AND I HOPE SOMEDAY YOU WILL GRASP SOME TO PASS ON TO YOUR KIDS. SAD AND PATHETIC.
AK- 47s….damn!!!!!! What the heck is that doing in Dominica? I think its time that DOMINICANS take a stand against these kind of things in our country. It’s time that persons who feel the need to have or use these kinds of weapons be made examples of. What need can these people have for an AK- 47? We have no Action Jactions, no Rambos, NO Treminators on the island soo we need to deal with them accordingly. If people are willing to bail them – raise the bail amts exorbitantly..this is ridiculous. That’s just the beginning and if someone doesn’t become the example, there’ll be no one to learn from.
Dominicans???? take a stand????? i rather stand up against the PM dual citizenship many times over before i stand up to no gun that shooting 600 rounds per minute, dominicans can only stand where they strong….IN THEIR MOUTH!!
let the police look for the guns, its their job, our job is to ensure we have a voice to speak up against …………………. i dont want to repeat myself
AK 47 AND THESE MEN WERE GRANTED BAIL?
WHO IS THE IDIOT MAGISTRATE THAT DO THAT?
NO WONDER CRIME IS ON THE INCREASE!!!
THESE GUYS SHOULD BE LUCKED UP FOREVER NOT AS PUNISHMENT BUT JUST FOR PUBLIC SAFETY
MY GOD!!!
oh people now you talking when they didnt renew tiyani cantract y didnt u people do n say something like demonstrate..now its ak 47..yes i papa.u just start to see.we have no magistrate in this country irrespective of whether the men arrested didn’t know about it..grandbay is just like it is..lawless..
frist of all ak47?is the russian coming?what kind of madness in my beautful dominica?its time you all wake up and smell the coffee when ever the come to do a search yuo have to stand aside in a peaceful way and where every is found the person is responsible woh ever grand them bail should be locked up also am leaving in a country where crime is like another one bite the dust but nature isle where am planing to come back to after almost 30 yearsto leave a peaceful life like old times now a thinking twice when i have to read things like that what is my beautful dominica is coming too not only grandbay all over has good and bad cause i know of very nice people and they are from grandbay
AM FROM GRAND BAY AND HAVE LIVED THERE ALL MY LIFE,I KNOW THAY FAMILY PERSONALLY,THE OLD MAN HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS GUN,HIS JUST A MAN LEAVING,TO MUCH TO SAY.AM NOT IN NO WAY CONDONEING THE FACT THAT THEY HAD THOSE ILLEGALLY FIRE AMRS,BUT THERE IS SOME THING MORE DEADLY THEN FIRE ARMS IN GRAND BAY AND NOBODY OR SHOULD I SAY MOST PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT IT PUBLIC.
EVERY CRIME HAS IT PUNISHMENT.
POLICE OFFICER,HEALTH WORKER THE GOVERNMENT HOPE U WILL BE READING THIS. THERE MAY BE AN EPIDEMIC IN GRAND BAY VERY SOON, IT ALLEGED THAT ONE MAN IS SPREADING THE AIDS VIRUS IN GRAND BAY LIKE WILD FIRE,PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO TALK BECAUSE HE HAVE MONEY, POWER.DOES THE ATHOURITY KNOW AND NOT DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT?BECAUSE THEY WANT GRAND BAY EXTINCT? THE HEALTH WORKERS IN GRAND BAY I THINK IF U ALL KNOW AND IS NOT DOING NOTHING ABOUT SHAME ON YOU ALL, IF U CANNOT HANDLE IT AND IS NOT REPORTING IT TO THE HIGHER ATHOURITY,SO MANY PEOPLE BLOOD WILL BE ON IN YOUR HANDS.
I HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS VIRUS MATTER..I think many other community people have heard also…What is being done?
The persons whom he is having sex with must be responsible for their own health and life.
EXACTLY
IF THEY WANT TO PLAY NASTY AND HAVE SEX WITH ANYTHING THAT MOVES THEN THEY SHOULD TAKE WHAT THEY GET
if this is true regarding the AIDS, and health authority can confirm that the individual have AIDS and is spreading it, he need to be arrested and charge, a few weeks ago a 17year old girl was arrested in Edmonton Canada knowing that she have AIDS and sleeping around not notifying them men that she is a walking cemetery
Have sex and spreading the sickness when you know that you are a health hazard, in Canada man this is a serious case if someone who was involved with the AIDS person died, Dominique finy bat
is he self dat self dem man out and put his weapon dere…dont worry his own comin for him soon
Is hiv/aids airborne, or is he putting the virus in the water storage in grandbay or is it fake money or is it a subject/topic taught at school and the church meetings? hmmmmm
THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT CAN’T DO ANYTHING BE-
THATS PATIENT CONFIDENTIALTY. DO YOU KNOW
IF THEY MENTION THIS PERSON’S NAME TO THE PU-BLIC THEY CAN BE SUED. WHO EVER IS HAVING
SEX WITH THIS PERSON IS RISKING THEIR LIFE.
THEY SHOUD KNOW BETTER USE PROTECTION NO
CONDOM NO SEX. WHAT BECAUSE HE HAS MONEY
RISK YOU LIFE FOR MONEY IT DOES’NT WORTH IT.
“The charges include possession of illegal firearms including an AK-47 and possession of various types of ammunition. They appeared in court today and were granted bail.”
Is it me or this just doesn’t make any sense. Illegal firearms, 9 rounds of 30-30, among aothers, AK-47…Okay citizen of another country (flight risk)- Now traveling to Guadeloupe (and I can safely assume) that those weapons were not manufactured in Dominica and they sure as hell did not travel on Liat to get them here-
Surrendering travel documents??? Really Judge…???!!!
I do not know, maybe it’s just me- I mean I am not a lawyer or judge so I guess the logic lies in some Statute or Code in the Constitution that citizens are not aware of.
SMFH!!!
i happy u kno dominica dont have dem weapons and dem man dont travell….who does it really belong too?
you couldnt have been more correct than this..i guess the magistrate close to the lwyer who use to be her clerk. it just doesnt make sense tat for the very first time an ak 47 is found or seen in our country n the foreigner is granted bail..its absurd.we need an influx of magistrate with good pay..fire dem polititian magistrates its ridiculous.
On a lighter note, why are you reporting 4 persons, surely this should be 4 people?? Always understood 1 person if more than one then 2 people, does my head in when in Dominica to hear the phase “persons” !!!
No offence but these aks seem to be all over the Caribbean now. Wth! I know most come from Haiti, Columbia or Venezuela. I guess drug runners upgrading. We need to be very careful and the police needs to tighten up big time. More sub machine guns and full machine guns on our streets spells increased drive by offences. Time to get serious and crack down on these chumps
These people should have been remanded in custody.No doubt about it….
If we want to get serious about crime,that is not the right message to send,
An AK-47 is an assault riffle,that can cause a lot of havoc….It has been banned in the States…Only military personnel are allowed to carry this type of weapon…That’s a very,very dangerous and deadly weapon….
There should be no bail until a complete and thorough investigation to ascertain how this particular weapon got on the Island, and come to be in the possession of these people.
Other regional and International Law enforcement should be contacted and notified. The serial number of that weapon be entered into an International data base to ascertain it’s origin,how and when it disappeared,and how,when, and why it ended up with these people.
This is very serious business,and should be treated as such..An AK-47,is a military assault riffle,It is not a joke.It is reason for concern..
Is there an International gun-runner in Dominica,or the Region?……..That is why these suspects should have remained in custody,under some heavy questioning by the C.I.D…..
Granting bail to these people did nothing but compromise and jeopardize the investigation and the whole case…You are selling yourselves short guys.Do your job,and do it thoroughly.
I am shocked…what a joke,you guys cannot be serious….Quite frankly,I am appalled.
Mr.Police prosecutor,and Magistrate,you guys are sending the wrong message.
All the best to you…
y the fu** should they be remain in jail….first of all one of dem man and his daughter and woman just came down for the summer, the old man just came back and the house was abounded..the same way ppl can take what they want in the house is so they can put what they want…second of all, the house they had the worrent to search, they aint found noting in it…..THe person dat sell dem man out because they doin somting good in grand bay kno dere self and they will pay for it sooner or later
Miss Moore I don’t want to call you by your government name. STFU now man. Shiiiiit!!! I know them man is your uncle but you don’t have to keep commenting. So Please STFU!!!!!!
Miss MOORE, It would be wise if you just stop already. Your spelling and grammar is atrocious and you are way out of line in all of your posts. You sound like a primary school dropout.
Hench my point about the Police conducting a complete and thorough investigation.
Investigations should have been on going. Seemingly,because a whole lot more people need to be arrested and incarcerated for this…including you,…because you seems to know a lot about it.
The sad fact of the matter is,you people think that this is a joke,it is not.
One should not stigmatize, when it comes to breaking the Law..We have this notion and the perception that criminals are suppose to look and act a certain way, far from it…Anyone is quite capable of breaking the Law( or committing a crime),given the right circumstance or circumstances….There are no nice “faces,or ugly,or bad faces,young or old”…Everyone is a suspect until proven otherwise…hence a “thorough investigation”…..
“The heart of man is deceptively(and sometimes desperately) wicked,who can know it.”
So stop being naive and in some cases ignorant of the facts.
The prevention of crime, criminal behavior and criminality should be taken more seriously. And therefore should be treated and fought with much urgency.
All the best…..
You are miss informed, every State have different gun laws. So is in only some states these weapons are banned and not all.
The AK-47 is banned in every State of The Union. Period!’…Get your facts together.
Sir there are fully auto AKs and Semiautomatic AKs. Fully auto is limited to military and leo and in some states you can own a semiautomatic AK-47. I always have my fact straight because I don’t like making a full of my self.
Hahaha, you made a full of yourself. Oops, I meant fool …. wait, I meant you meant fool.
HOW THE HELL YOU WANT TO BLAME THE POLCIE FOER MEN GETTING BAILED BY A MAGISTRATE SON, LEARN THE SYSTEM AND HOW IT WORKS. THE POLICE CAN ONLY OBJECT TO BAIL FOR REASONS STIPULATED IN LAW BUT HAVE NO SAY WHETHER BAIL IS GRANTED OR NOT. ITS ALL UP TP THE MAISTRATE OK SON SO STOP HATING AND HITTING ON THE POLICE OK. STUPES.
Be afraid Dominicans, be very afraid because I am certain there is more than this One AK-47 in our country. It is time for the police to rethink their crime fighting strategy including arming ALL officers 24/7 so they can confront these rouges and vagabonds that are hell bent on destroying our country.
To the government, Carette, Hobbs and the Police Service Commission I say the days of policemen walking around with ONLY a baton are long gone. Give the cops the resources (Walkie talkies, 9mm’s, hand-cuffs, proper shoes and modern combat style police uniforms) to enable the to operate more effectively. We need to pu politics aside and stop pussy-footing when it comes to crime. Believe me, the officers know exactly who are the gun and drug runners but cannot act because they know they are out gunned. A dead cop cannot help fight crime tomorrow.
Carette, Hobbs, Weekes, Carbon, David, Duke you guys know the streets so let us move forward and take back the streets. STOP playing politics with Dominican and visitors lives. Arm every officer today. If needs be draft a new fire arms engagement policy for the force, retrain the officers to that policy to minimize recklessnesses and let the boys loose.
Arming every officer is asking for more trouble within the police force.How can u arm already poorly trained,crooked,ignorant lazy cops?
@ Babalu
You should be charged for making such a statement. You should be asked to prove your comments.
I wonder if I knew you, if we met by your actions would I think you are a crooked person or not? There are times the pot always calls the kettle black. Be careful what you say and of the stones that you throw.
uncle dildo i more afraid of u
ok me and you can agree on this one….i dont think that all police officers are properly trained to wear sidearms…..this is life and death you talking about equipping these officers with, be careful what we wish for..is not like we have armed robbery going on in roseau every 2 hours. i saw a recruit with side arm in roseau the other day and he looks like he is afraid of his own shadow…and bullets dont have eyes so mind me and my loved ones please.
We need to stop living in the middle ages. All over world (most countries) officers carry side arms so what is wrong with that in Dominica? We are so bent on “portraying” a safe image that we still believe officers walking around with no arms is a sign that all is well and crime is under control. If in this day and age we cannot train our officers in the proper use of weapons and when using it is justified then something is terribly wrong with our training program.
Mistakes are going to be made like everything else but it is time we move out of the old system. While we remain stagnant crime and criminals are moving full speed ahead. I repeat my call to retrain and arm the officers 24/7.
just 32000 bail hummm!
something wrong somewhere and when they hold the fella with money they bail him almost 50 000. wow this one is a shocker. so it seems like the money is more problen=m than the ammunition. is the money the shooting bullets.
i thought Skirrit said that the law was gonna ,be harder if caught with ammunition!!! whatever happened to that harsh penalty
What happen to the harsh penalty? Well you should realize is only TALK,TALK, TALK. I heard the PM talk about harsh penalty too. But was any of the bail guidelines, or the laws in the justice systems revised? NO!!! So the magistrate still can only operate within the guidelines that are on the books. When the PM sees it fit to deal with this increasing crime problem, then he and his cabinet and his AG will revise the laws and put some new guidelines in place. Until then
what we have is what we have to work with. DON’T BLAME THE MAGISTRATE OR THE JUDGE, IS THE LAWS AND THE GUIDELINES THAT HAVE TO BE CHANGED,AND THEY IN THE COURT CANNOT CHANGE IT. That is exactly what happen to Tyhani, he saw the need for harsher penalties, and he imposed them, but it was outside of the guidelines that he could operate . Please try to understand this process, so that when those government officals TALK, TALK< TALK and don't follow up with the necessary action, you will know the reason why things happen as they do.
AK-47? So if some people had a problem with the holder of this deadly gun, he could spray HUNDREDS down in just one minute…. THE STATEMENT SAID THE AK-47 is capable of a rate of fire over 600 rounds per minute… ARE WE AT WAR?
IS NOT THEM ALONE THE POLICE THEM SELF IS IN IT TO. SO STOP HATING
OK WE ALL APOLOGIZE.
BECAUSE THE POLICE ARE IN IT WE MUST JUST RELEASE THEM WITH A HUG AND A PACKET OF OH HENRY.
MY GOD! WHAT WERE WE THINKING!!!? tHESE MEN SHOULD NOT BE TRIED!
ESPECIALLY SINCE THE POLICE ARE INVOLVED.
WE ARE SO VERY SORRY TO OFFEND YOU “ME NOT” IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN
dem police workin for ppl dat have money dats y…i hope he payu allu good
top talking rubbish your punk…
Who is supplying these people with these weapons? That is my question. How are these guns and ammunition getting into the country in the first place.
finally a comment that i can read…..all the rest of the garbage these jack asses talking about is irrelevant…..
by the police
all you wanna talk is bullshit..talk something sensible..lol
miss moore shut the f up
is not them alone the police them in it to we. so stop hating
people who are againts the conficasting of such weapons from the people are worst than those criminals
chupesss….they are not criminals
A criminal is a person who commits a crime. Miss Moore, did they commit a crime? Yes! Therefore are they criminals? Yes, they are! Bitter pill to swallow but one that you must – least you continue to make a complete fool of yourself!
WOW.
wow what……
I think people should know something about these boys before they jump to conclusions. These guys are not trouble makers, never have problem with the law, are not known drug dealers, do not own anything, no vehicles, nothing. They are all tradesmen working in constuction, electrition and carpentry full time. I was strange the policemen just show up at their home and started searching…… that is the wow…. I am not saying they should have that type of gun at their home but then again they are not the only ones. There are known drug dealers and murderers walking the streets daily and it is ok……..no one is bothering them.>.>.>.>. some kind of law/system we have…. I would much rather go after those that are threats, killing people and selling drugs, have millions in assets all over the place than those who do not have anything and never cause any trouble……. That is what we should be saying WOW to…. Know a little about people before we jump to conclusions.
WHAT IN THE 2 X 4 ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
THESE MEN WERE IN POSSESSION OF TWO AK 47s
WELL! I SUPPOSE IF WE FIND THE BISHOP WITH A ROCKET LAUNCHER UNDER HIS BED WE SHOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH I GUESS
amen to that brother…….
the man dat giving dem young children AIDs, bringind drugs grand bay and killing dem man is who house they should had search
in as much as i do agree wih you but dont you think that most of them invest and give people who are not in drugs to hide for them to cover their tracks. you have no idea wats goin on..too many secret criminals.
trust me i kno wa goin on
@ me
Ask yourself what was the gun and such a type doing in their possession? This is the question. They incriminated themselves.
MY GOODNESS GRASCIOUS YES MY LORD WHAT IS HAPPENING TO DOMINICAN YOUTHS? AND PEOPLE PLEASE DON`T TELL ME IT HAS TO DO WITH WITH THE LACK OF JOBS.CAUSE,IF THEY DON`T HAVE JOBS TO GET MONEY TO FEED THEMSELVES WHERE DID THEY GET MONEY TO BUY THESE GUNS AND AMUNITIONS.NOW THESE JUDGE GAVE THEM BAIL AND I DON`T SAY NO BUT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH HIGHER WHERE THETYSHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO POST BAIL.
hold ur a**..dere land they give up for bail
ADMIN: Miss Moore, as you might have noticed many of your comments were not posted. You using to much indecent language. Please cut down on the language or none of your comments will be approved.
dont u see miss moore is just one of them…wat do u espect..
Miss Moore: I have read your comments and I am left wondering that if the accused are relatives, and you are so adamant that they are innocent, then why dont you tell the police what you know.
Mouthing off on DNO is not going to help them.
Now you claim that there is a man in Grandbay spreading the HIV virus, if this is so, then why dont you contact the relevant authorities. We cannot feel compassion for the young ladies sleeping with him if they are aware and puting money before health.
good job
Very Bad NEWS.
what the heck!! ki sa!!!
well. well, welll i am blown away by this one
AK47,IN DA. Where did this wepon come from???
Guadeloupe!!!
I’m not sure where it came from, but I’m 100% positive that white men created it for the sole purpose of killing!
So dumbnicans, get in line and kill one another why don’t you…….
the police
miss more you are rather irritating
hmmmmm …smh
wats wrong
it may appears that, our nature forest covers more armmunitions than the police.
Somebody take note!!
Are they planning a war?
My sentiments exactly!!! Well, with all the calls we have been getting recently to “take up arms” and “fight”, I guess they are taking it literally and seriously.
with u
grandbarians..
lol every where i comment..say somting
It seemed there are more Arms outside than what inside the Headquaters.
WELL YEAH
BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE OUTSIDE THAN INSIDE. AND IF EACH PERSON HAVE TWO ARMS THEN THAT EVEN MAKES IT WORSE
HEH HEH HEH
Wow!As my pardner would say..”Weh, weh, weh, weh, weh!!!!!!!!!!!!!” My brothers and sisters, where is our sweet country heading to????????? What was the intention of the holders of those firearms????? My goodness, Da in trouble with that sort of stuff on the streets!!!!!!!!!! My goodness, how are we going to succeed in ridding Da of those dangerous weapons and people?????? They better change the laws to suit!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow, God save our country!!!!!!!!! Love you Dominica!!!!!!!!!!!!
hmmmm only dominicans ehh
ask the law makers and the magistrate who grant them bail…
it look like u kno more than them…so u tell me
The girl did not have nothing better to do than follow these young men that want to make nothing good of themselves? Stupes…it seem like all they want to do with their life is form the fool and make their parents shame. I’m happy they were caught. Now don’t let them of easy teach them a serious less
I think you should shut up if you do not know anything….. You are part of the reason Dominica cannot move, we jump to conclusions before we know anything….You talk like a dum ass goat…..the young lady and her husband resides in Guadelope and were here on holidays with the family. So shut your mouth when you don’t know better
amen to that..when domonica ppl dont kno what to say
you think they should release her is that wat u trying to say punk,well they should let all off n leave the weapon in the house..someone has to take the responsibility n say whose own it is..they benefit from the proceeds so their mouth shut..
Those idiots who give this comment thumbs down are the ones who may not be productive in the island
this is some real shit,how could they have granted bail so easily to this forign national.this magistrate is too soft.no bail or too early.
because they aint got no case on dem…some of the police self said someting aint rite
you’re so correct. magistrate sweety..where they get dem nah????????? bring back tiyani
The next level.
Grand bay have to much haters it’s time grand bay people mind their own business and not mind other people own it’s because jelousy them things happening but it’s only a matter of time for things to happen
Lord have Mercy on Dominica and its people!!
READY TO SPRAY.
all dem crook police in dominica
A AK47???…sorry for the ole man, but he should have known, it’s at his home.
How???
how the f he goin to kno…allu ppl hmmm.. u aint even worth an answer to dat
ITSS students gets 10 grade ones in 2011 CXC! follow that story now that the gun slingers are facing justice.
on battlefield and call of duty i usually see ak=47
well look u seein one now chupesss…best u even move from dere
These are guys who never get themselves in any trouble, they do not sell drugs, they do not have problem with the law, they do not have valuables, no vehicles etc. They are all tradesmens working, constuction, electrician and carpentry. I wonder how is that the policemen just showed up at their home and started shearching….in the meantime they have murderers walking up and down the streets daily. wow wow wow, some kind of system/law.
your comment is avoiding the fact that the police offices found these deadly weapons in their homes…Talk to that.
and my question is who put it dere?
Are u serious? So u would rather wait for someone to get hurt or killed before the police find out? Them decent job is just cover up for their bad act. So u better say praise God those weapons of the street before you stay there talking nonsense.
amen to that and the ppl that are hating…hmmm may god help u guys
@ Anonymous
The Police had a reason to do so. They probably were tipped-off.
Never put your hand in fire for anyone. Who knows what lurks in the heart of man/woman and what they are doing when they are not in your presence?
If I had a relative or friend who had a gun and the Police searched them I would not stand up and defend them. People get just what they deserved.
Be fair and just. Bad company corrupts. Be careful of the company you keep. Do not encourage others in their crimes/sins and do not defend them unless you can prove otherwise. You too will bear the consequences and even worst than they, who are hiding behind your back. You will be implicated while they get off scot-free because the gun is not at their home but in their possession. Do you see the point? If you have common sense you should comprehend this.
I learned this from my parents since childhood.
Why does the new fire arms act permit bail to persons charged with possession of illegal weapons and ammunitions? The laws are to damned backward in this my homeland. It’s a serious criminal offence. How many more have to be killed by people like them before we put down our feet and say enough is enough?
which laws, stupid ass laws. in other cuntries check the penalties and compare with ours,,chicken feed penalties..that’s why no one cares whether they’re caught with a firearm or not..and the fines are cake change.help this country father.we’re 30yrs behind.change the laws and more stiff penalties if u want this beautiful country to be enjoyed by all of us…
Look at Dominica….. yall wanna tell me something not wrong with the place??
What???
AS I WAS SAYING: I know Dominica is sliding down a slippery slope,but i earnestly hope that all of them get the maximum punishment…Unless a lesson is taught to these blood hungry gun bearers,these illegal firearms will find their way into the homes of law abiding citizens,in our schools, in our banks,in our grocery shops,credit unions,churches,and all other commercial entities. I see ransoms being demanded,kidnappings, or the worse case scenario,in an attemp to get money innocent citizens will be executed…BUT AGAIN DRUGS AND GUNS ARE LIKE BREAD AND BUTTER, SHOES AND SOCKS,TEACUPS AND SAUCERS,,,ie they complement each other…WOW !!! THOUGHT ONLY THE POLICE HAD AK-47 assault rifles…All and sundry including the RELIGIOUS LEADERS MUST VOICE THEIR CONCERN !!!IS THIS THE TYPE OF COUNTRY WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO BUILD..Ithink we have to forget politics for a few days and seriously address the crime issue that is plaguing Waitikubuli.
y it have to be taught to the innocent…thats bull
So many guns ammunition and such little bail amounts. This is absurd.
Did they kill anyone no they did not
no they did not
@ Jalay
You comment without thinking. They had a gun which could kill someone and a few people. What do young people have guns for, to play with them as toys? How did this gun enter Dominica and for what purpose? What was the reason for bringing it into Dominica?