Court resumed its sitting yesterday with Leader of the United Workers Party Ron Green continuing his testimony from Wednesday afternoon as the election petition trial involving Prime Minister Roosevelt Skerritt and Education Minister Petter St. Jean went into its third day.
Green had previously given testimony, during examination, that he had been a US citizen from 1957 when at the age of 17 his mother got it for him. He claimed that he had applied for renunciation on December 11, 2009 and while it was not confirmed until a few months later, it was in effect from the date of filing.
Green had also said that the issue was raised in 1995 by then attorney general Sir Brian Alleyne but was dismissed when it was determined that he had not obtained it by his own hand.
As court continued, Green admitted that in an application in defense of the petition filed 8 January, 2010 no mention is made of St Jean’s alleged boasting of his French citizenship to Felix Prosper, an allegation which is included in Prosper’s witness statement and no mention made in an affidavit in support of the petition, filed 28 March 2010, about Prosper. There is also no mention of allegations that either respondent had a French passport.
Green also said that Prosper told him about an alleged boasting incident, in which St Jean had revealed his passport to Prosper after the 2009 General Elections. He made it clear that a leaflet circulated with reasons why Petter St Jean was not qualified to run for election was not issued by his campaign, agreeing to have read it sometime before it was published and conceding that it made no mention of French citizenship or a French passport.
While one of the witness statements says that Edison James had spoken of the issue at a public meeting in La Plaine on December 17, 2009, Senior Counsel Anthony Astaphan suggests that no such meeting took place since there was a ‘last night’ rally held on that same date in the Carib Territory. No transcript of that event exists and the meeting was apparently not broadcast nationally.
Green did acknowledge, along with Astaphan, that James asked St. Jean to come clean or to say whether or not he has French citizenship at the Carib Territory meeting, in accordance with one of the witness statements.
Documents sent from another of the witnesses, French official Claudette Duhamel whom the petitioners had written to, included Certificate of French Nationality and Birth Certificate for St. Jean but Green also concedes that no mention is made of a passport. Documents relating to the Prime Minister only made reference to the passport of his mother and not to one that was issued to him.
Both sides agreed that under French law Duhamel cannot give information that suggests one possesses or does not possess a French passport and that type of information can only be granted to officials, police officers conducting investigations or a judge.
James took the stand as the petitioners’ second witness and during cross-examination by Astaphan admitted to having told the public about Skerritt’s French citizenship at meetings during the election campaign, but also conceded that, even then, no reference had been made using the word ‘passport’. He affirmed that no recordings were made of meetings for the party’s own record, although recordings could have been made of the meetings that were broadcast nationally.
He also said, “I knew that Mr. Green was a US citizen as that had been a matter of public discussion before but I considered him a Dominican.”
Court adjourned shortly after James stepped down, until 9 am Tuesday. Attorney for the petitioners Douglas Mendes had previously requested that the judge adjourn early so that preparations could be made for those who had to leave the island for the weekend, as reports indicate that regional carrier LIAT may cancel flights today due to inclement weather.
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Has Edision mentioned that he and his whole family have Barbados Citizenship ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
He wants to rule Dominica, but he doesn’t want to be Dominican. He got it out of his own free will.
Is this a fact. I have been hearing these rumours, can they be confirmed?
how comes bazil not with his pms(considering edo an ron have the same post).would like to hear what he have to say
WHEN WILL IT END? WHEN WE WILL LEARN TO LOVE EACH OTHER. I WISH THIS CASE DISMISS AND
EVERY ONE WILL GET TO DO THEIR DAILY ROUTINE
AND LET THINGS REST. IT THINK THERE IS TO
MUCH HATRED IN THIS PLACE. I WOULD LIKE TO
KNOW IF THE WORD LOVE DOES’NT EXSIST ANYMORE
too bloody hypocrete.
Let us look at some dates. nomination day for the 2009 election December 2nd 2009. Date Mr. Roosevelt Skerritt and Petter St.Jean requested cancellation of French citizenship, November 27th 2009. Date Mr.Ron Green applied for cancellation of US citizenship, December 11th 2009..just looking at dates
HEY LISTEN YOU ALL I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT EDISON JAMES WAS ONCE A PRIME MINISTER I MEAN WE HAVE MADE SOME REALLY FOOLISH MISTAKES AND I DONT THINK WE WANT TO MAKE THEM AGAIN I BELIEVE BY THIS TIME WE HAVE GROWN AND MATURED.THE GUY IS ALMOST 100 YEARS OLD CANT YOU ALL SEE THAT HE IS JUST LOOKING FOR A LITTLE MORE CASH? YOTHINK THAT THIS GUY IS GOING TO GO TO ALL THOSE COUNTRIES THAT THE NOW PM GOES TO I BET YOU ONE MORE TRIP AND EDISON IS A DEAD FULL PLENTY OF IT LETS WAKE UP DONT YOU THINK ITS HIGH TIME?
THAT INDUCTRINATION PROPAGANDA WON’T WORK.
DOMINICANS ARE WAKING UP TO THE TRUTH NOW
you are as empty as this statement.
Hector ET John, since u post ur judgement day comment on FB u and ur cronies disappear, allu backside block , and u in Washington D.C. I glad for allu. Tory come out. Hector garca d best thing u can do is leave EddiSIN and RUN in the their s***.
Anyway, anyway, anyway!!! Teacher had a saying at school: a picture saves a thousand words!!!!
Just look at that picture people!!!
D lawyer obviously in a state of shock!! He cannot believe these two politicians that in front of him and he cannot believe that he allowed himself to partake in such theatrics. Even d lawyer have a conscience!
How can he plead equity in his final summation to the judge? He who pleads equity must come with clean hands!!! Satan cannot correct sin.
This whole case was all about distracting the government of the day and sowing seeds of no confidence among the support base of Labour Party and hopefully win back support for the UWP.
The court case is a loss leader.
Overtime one notices the strategy of UWP and it has not changed. Remember the bugging case? It was a loss leader that threw doubt in the minds of the least educated and distracted the Freedom Party that had to waste time defending a senseless and baseless allegation with counter attack by the UWP that there is no smoke without fire.
It is high time that judges take a stand with Caribbean politicians that in Opposition and make an example out of them.
Now look at our two court loving politicians who prostitute (use) the existence of the court. Once they can clear themselves from a possible jail by saying to the judge that they simply want the court to clarify matters for them they will be there every day of the year. Out of the court they have plenty big mouth, in court they agree among themselves to take the blows because if and when they fail they hope to get sympathy from the electorate by voting them into office.
It is all a game on the minds of the electorate.
Freedom Party that had more lawyers in government never dreamt of abusing the court system in all its years of existence. Not once! But boy UWP will use it to build its support base.
You can see that the man in the blue shirt is leading the man in the white shirt.
Guilt is written all over their faces , hence the heads are down in shame and the next lies are now formulated to take to Q and all other media and continue the game of winning sympathy.
Pathetic.
did this uwp men made any preparations for this case.and even if they did its just a waste.all these are really set of latest stooges. joey magloire would do better. start singing sanky for these guys. waste of time men. waste. i can see the relevance of this case but the voodoo got them by their balls.
BREAKING NEWS: Do you consider yourself a Dominican? Are you unsure whether you are a true Dominican or not? Well….look no further. Ask the President of the United Workers Party Edison James. He knows how to consider whether you are a Dominican or not.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!
Where is ‘nohogwash?’ Very absent from this story item I notice. Or ‘1979?’ They maybe on the former IMF doctor’s website crying, now that the double standard is visibly at play here. lol OK…some are trying their best to defend the indefensible but man, I had to read James’ statement twice before I could fully digest it.
“I knew that Mr. Green was a US citizen as that had been a matter of public discussion before but I considered him a Dominican.”
This should be the statement of the century.
Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!
CHANGE EDDO NAME TO DNA
I can’t believe a man who was prime minister of a country so foolish to make that statement.He accused the man of having a French passport and can’t give the evidence.He accuse skerrit of being a crook but he and green
“I knew that Mr. Green was a US citizen as that had been a matter of public discussion before but I considered him a Dominican.”
I am sure you are aware that SKERRIT, not Green, is the one on trial. So, the statement above is irrelevant to the case and will be dismissed by the judge. S.C. Mendes should have properly objected to this line of questioning
there was a case in where the imf guy rape a maid when they question her they found out she lied of being raped in the past and on some documents,they fond evdence that he rape her, now the case was dismissed.so u see the witnesses must be question in order for the judge to give his ruling.the guy give his testimony in court.that’s the way the law works.you take me to court you have to tell the court what is it that you take me to court for i do not have to say anything if i do not want too.
its time blood gets blue eyes gets red
ok im still awaitng info and proof that peter and skerrit are dual citizens… not yet seen any evidence in the article on dno… please uwp dont let skerrit get away with this…
It is indeed sad to see and read the level of ignorance that exists in Dominica. The people are just not willing to listen and learn. Worst of all, they refuse to think for themselves.
They continue to allow the Puppet Master to control them , think for them and decide for them.
Very ,very sad.
There seem to be a strong evil power controling the country. Please, people pray. Bring down those forces in those High places. Pull them down.
The country needs to go a a fast for deliverance. I feel very strongly that Tony is controled by some force which is not of God.
Where are the people of God?How long will you sit idly by and see Dominica go down.
You have the right name ‘jalousie’ because that is what driving people like you in your hatred for Skerrit and the DLP. Nothing else!!!
very well said.. something is so wrong… we must pray and ask the TRUTH to lead us.
The evil power is you and no body else.There is no puppet master they accuse the men they have to bring the evidence to prove that they are liable.So they will accuse everybody and have no questions to answer.Sience when in your dreamland.Examination in chief is the easiest thing but cross examination is what destroys a witness he has to answer questions which suggest the answers.Go and do some reading you crack head.UWP puppet.
Jalousie… You are part of that ignorant group that fail to recognise double standards and opposition dictatorship. Tony is not the problem.. the problem is people like u who have a one tract mind controled by the Puppet president Eddo. When u make these idiotic statements please leave God out..
It takes a thief to know another, U must b
an evil force to know that one exist.LOL
it is apparent that Dominica is controlled by some dark force, we need som serious prayer and fasting to save not only U W P people but also blinded labourites who cannot see the light.
ron green so you have violate the law also cant you remenber when you run in 1980 election with the dominican alliance i was part of it ron so what is your problem , how you have change you use to have my respect before but yoou have looooooost it
The UWP has blundered once again. I do not know who are ther advisors, but I am very disappointed. In God’s own time he will provide a deliverer for Dominica. Skerrit is certainly c,but the opposition is s. They have double standards and need to do some soul searching. Now is the time for Eddison and Ron to mentor young educated people to take the reigns of the party. It appears as if they want to hold on to power forever. To show that they really care about Dominica they need to get more Claudius sanfords on board to save their party and they the older folks take an active, supportive backseat role.
Time to throw the case out of court, wheel around and come again. Sa say bagaw sort,.Nonsense said one of the lttle ones, the UWP sort.oui.
Half of Dominica is French descendants, Viele Case, Thibaud, Coulihaut, Laplain, Fort st. Jean, just to name a few.Grandbay, pitchelin, all the french descendants, those marigots and Americans saying we not Domincan now.
this sounds interesting. You made my day.
Somebody is giving the UWP VERY BAD ADVISE. Where as it may be true that Skerrit and St. Jean has dual citizenship. They should conserve their energy and strategise on how they can win the minds of the Dominican public. Skerrit would evetually meet up with what he does or doesn’t. They need to take into consideration that a wide croshssection of the public wants Skerrit wether he deserves it or not. Ron and Eddo should relax in their older years. Chose their battles wisely and let things take its natural course.
THESE MEN SHOULD ACCEPT THEIR DEFEAT AT
THE LAST ELECTION. ITS OVER YEAR NOW THEY
SHOULD BE ROLLING UP THEIR SLEEVES AND GETTING THEMSELVES READY FOR THE NEXT ELECTION. I VERY MUCH ASHAME TO SEE THESE
MEN ACTING LIKE CRY CRY BABIES
power makes one desperate but one is more desperate to get into power. there is just too much desperation in our politicians.
well the system says 6 months; it is now two years, the court have to find out the truth but rather prefers to disallow the accused to testify, and is only by testifying the truth will come to light; what happens to the oath of office that was taken in the name of God, are these oaths godly or are they satanic?
WHAT A MESS! JUST LIKE A SOAP OPERA
WHAT I DON’T UNDERSTAND IS, WHY WOULD RON TAKE SKERITT AND PETER TO COURT KNOWING THAT HE TOO! WAS ON THAT SAME BOAT..WAS IT A SLIP OF THE TONGUE? OR PLAIN STUPIDITY? OR MAYBE EDISON BOOBOO HIM? JUST ASKING..
RON GAINED HIS CITIZENSHIP AT A YOUNG AGE, SO HE SAID..
SKETITT ALSO GAINED HIS AT A YOUNG AGE, SO HE SAID. (1972)..HAHAHA..GOOGLE SEARCH I GO BY WHAT I READ..FORGET THAT PART…..
ON THE OTHER HAND, WHY SHOULD THEY BE IN COURT, IF THEY BOTH TOLD THE TRUTH? THERE MUST BE SOME EVIDENCE TO DRAG THIS TO THE COURT FOR SO LONG. SOMETHING/SOMEONE IS NOT RIGHT,
EVEN MORE STRANGE, RON AND EDISON HAVING TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, KNOWING THAT THEY ARE THE ONES WHO POINTED THE FIRST FINGER..
PEOPLE DON’T GO TO BATTLE WITHOUT PROPER AMMUNITION..
WINNERS NEVER LOOSE…AND FOR SURE IN ALL OF THIS THERE MIGHT BE A WINNER AND ONE LOOSER, OR MAYBE NOT..
JUST THINKING MAYBE THERE IS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO THROUGH SKERITT, RON PETER AND EDISON IN JAIL…HOW WILL WE LIKE IT NOW? WILL WE SMILE…..ACCORDING TO WHAT I SEE IF ONE GOES TO JAIL THEN ALL SHOULD GO….
IF I WAS THE JUDGE IN THIS MATTER, I WOULD HAVE DISMISS THIS DAME CASE….BUT AM FAR FROM BEING A JUDGE..AND I REALLY DON’T GET THIS DUAL CITIZENSHIP ISSUE IT IS A BIT CONFUSING, I DON’T UNDERSTAND POLITIC EITHER, BUT BLESS WITH A LITTLE COMMONSENSE…
BY THE WAY THE ONES CALLING DOMINICAN IDIOTS! WE ARE FAR FROM BEING IDIOTS, WE THINK IT’S TIME TO GET THAT OVER WITH AND MOVE TO THE NEXT LEVEL…OF A PEACEFUL DOMINICA/DOMINICANS..
LETS GET BACK OUR SMILE…ITS NOT ABOUT POLITICAL PARTY!!!IT IS ABOUT OUR NATION AND ITS PEOPLE GETTING BACK ITS SHARE OF SUNSHINE….
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT, REMEMBER THERE IS NO PEACE WITHOUT JUSTICE.
Edison James please leave my Prime Minister alone, you are getting on my nerves,
Stupendous, like you Jane White we have your name underline.. You can visit the Red Clinic with only an ID.. next time your phone number will even help us process your funds faster..
congratulation miss\ mrs. White.
Ron Green and Edison James are not on trial. Roosevelt Skerritt and Petter St Jean are, that is the fact. However to look at the case without examining the individuals who are petitioning the court would be laughable. Mr. Green was a US citizen while he served in Parliament and according to his own words he was a Us Citizen on nomination day for the 2009 general election. Mr.Green was also the holder of a US passport, which he obtained as an adult, he was a member of the US peace corps, these are also undisputed facts. According to Mr. James .., “I knew that Mr. Green was a US citizen as that had been a matter of public discussion before but I considered him a Dominican.”If this is not arrogance at its best, I would like to know. What Mr. James as a former PM is saying is that he was aware that Ron Green was a us citizen, but he James in his own deliberate judgement considered him Dominican, so case close. Unfortunately the same consideration cannot be given to Skerritt and St.jean. This statement by Mr. James brings a new dynamic to the situation. It is no longer a question of the constitution been violated, it has become matter of who is doing the violation. The energy and resources expended to bring this matter to court could have been put to better use if ony Mr. James as president of the UWP had said to his party …I KNOW SKERRITT AND ST. JEAN ARE FRENCH CITIZENS BUT I CONSIDER THEM DOMINICANS.. CASE CLOSE..
CASE CLOSED CASE DISMISSED.
@ Profiler
R. Green and E. James are not on trial. R. Green is the instigator in this sordid affair of a Court case. They are witnesses and must be questioned and provide their testimonies. Is this not how the Law operates?
I did not address that issue in my post. I also did not dispute that Edison James and Ron Green were called to testify, because as u I do believe that is the law.
So is just politics then? We always knew that.
Tell you what, I listen to Lennox “the all-knowing” Linton on occasion. I want to hear him spin this deception by Mr. James tomorrow.
What a tangle web these guys have attempted to weave.
BECAUSE mR ghreen did not obtain U S citizenship BY HIS OWN HANDS. CASE CLOSE.
Fair abd balanced comment!
I’ve notice that there are a great number of people residing in Dominica,holding a birth certificate,a Dominica passport,born in Dominica,and are not citizen of the comonwealth of Dominica.
They blind fold themselfs in such a way that thay can only see a paticular,either green,red or blue.
As far as i understood,a citizen of the commonwealth of Dominica is someone who respects the constitution and supports everything that is in the BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF DOMINICA.
Dominica is over populated with thoes who pledge alliegance to political paties and not to this blessed island.
Political parties can’t build this land but only the citizen and good government
@ Domp
There are some who were not born in Dominica and hold a Dominican passport for their own means and ends. Of course, if they reside in Dominica for approximately 5 years, some owning a business and others who work in Dominica, eventually they could apply for and be granted citizenship. Consider also the Chinese.
I do think it is a shame that they who were not born in Dominica and became D/can citizens are more regarded than, as an example, the PM and St. Jean who were born in Dominica just because they hold a portfolio in Cabinet, Skerrit being the PM and the other a Minister. This is a two-tier and discriminating system against their very own who are sons of the soil which needs to be changed.
The more I consider this situation, the more I reiterate that this Constitution should be quashed and a new one written. This includes this Court case against the PM and St. Jean which should be thrown out of Court. May this be so.
Yes!
for the sake of the future genrrations if most Dominicans believe this issue will resurface then we need to revist this aspect of the constitution and put in the necessary clauses and ammendments. So no one will have to say no law not even the constitution…….eope it s time we become proactive and not reractive? I just have a feeling that this issue will surface in the future. this is my solution to this issued. my opinion.
PLEASE READ MY FELLOW DOMINICANS….DON’T KNOW IF THIS APPLIES…IS THIS THE ACE CARD….
One small controversy did arise in 2005 when Michaëlle Jean was appointed the Governor General of Canada (official representative of the Queen). Although Jean no longer holds citizenship in her native Haiti, her marriage to French-born filmmaker Jean-Daniel Lafond allowed her to obtain French citizenship several years before her appointment. Article 23-8[33] of the French civil code allows the French government to withdraw the French nationality from French citizens holding government or military positions in other countries.
Please do y’all research
If I were UWP I would withdraw their case
I agreee
all the palreps government and opposition needs to go the the house and ammend this aspect ofthe constitution for the sake of our future leaders. in fact there needs to be a public involvement in arriving at how the constitution needs to be ammended and what needs to be included and removed.At the end no one will point a finger at any sigle person or party for doing as they please.My opinion
@ Wikileaks
This is only on paper. You cannot take away a person’s right who was born in a country whether they lived abroad and became a citizen of another country.
She got a rousing welcome when she traveled to Haiti as Governor General. They love her. No matter what, Haiti is in her blood. She still considers herself a Haitian and always will be. She loves Haiti and its people. Every one in the world will always look upon her as Haitian.
Make note of this. There are times what is on paper is not worth the paper which it is written on and can be revoked as well.
In any case, Haiti is not Dominica. Too often some countries adopt the policies of other countries. Each country stands alone and should be alone in their decision making as in this case. They must cease being a copycat of other countries. Do your homework/research as well and cease using the word Wikileaks for you are not a real Wikileaks.
Michaëlle Jean was not ask to renounce her Haitian citizenship, she was ask by the then prime minister of Canada Paul Martin to renounce her French (Paris) citizenship before swearing in as the Governor general of Canada! and that she did, no one is disputing the fact that she was loved by her country men, for there was no reason what so ever not to love her, she made her people proud, both in Canada and Haiti, as a matter of fact world wide…. Although she left Haiti at a very young age she spoke the Creole language…so she had no problem communicating with her people….
you all can remember the bugging of Eddo’s office?who was mamo lawyer then?who took mamo to court?
Get your facts straight. It was mamo who took THEM to court, and they were caught with their pants down, made to apologize and pay legal fees which were donated to charity.
double standards are everything especially where power and leadership is concerned.
Leave Skerrit alone because those who coming after will do even worse. He didn’t get citizenzhip by his own hand. Skerrit is certainly not perfect but he has the interest of Dominicans at heart. GOD BLESS SKERRIT
@ 100% Dominican
All of you who support the PM and St. Jean, I am with you one hundred per cent. Especially the PM, he does not deserve what is being dished out to him. He is the PM and deserves respect and should be accorded same.
Know that I do not reside in DA and obviously did not vote but I do believe in speaking the truth and treating others with the dignity and respect which they deserve. Sons of the soil should not be so inhumanely treated and by their own fellow men. I pray that this Court case will be quashed once and for all.
I agree you should put your real name so that we will send you a ticket to come to Dominica to vote for the next general election.
great point like yours should be rewarded
for what?
God hates Sin:
that man is a ruthless dictator who lies, steals, his craft to con as disguised by the “smirk” is a hall mark of his forte of deception.
Stop the blasphemy God is God at all times.
i bet you Skerrit will stumble a million times if have to take an oath of truth in God,s name.. he is not worthy
wikileaks cast the first stone if you are without sin. The testimonies against Mr. St.Jean were fabricated for the case. Go to court when the witnesses are being cross examined for you to see who lying. Some of the witnesses will bite their tongue. I think it is a case of canawie ca di shodye bondae noir. Felix Prosper is a false witness and so are all mr. Greens witnesses.
@ Wikileaks
Who are you? Are you not aware what is contained in Holy Scriptures as taught by Our Lord Jesus Christ? “Judge not that you may not be judged accordingly” and two-fold.
A change of your heart is required.
Also, “The manner in which you measure to others it will be measured to you” two-fold. What goes around comes around. Cease your judging.
THAT IS SO TRUE A FLORISHING TOURIST INDUSTRY WITH LOTS OF LYBIANS, VENEZUELANS, CHINEESE SPENDING THEIR TOURIST DOLLAR IN TOWN, FLORISHING AGRICULTUIRE, INDUSTRY AND MANUFACTURING,PEOPLE CHOOSING WHICH JOB THEY WANT, LOTS OF RED DOLLARS IN EVERY BODYS POCKET ” LEAVE SKERRO ALONE”
“There they are. See no evil, hear no evil, and…evil”
So far we’ve see 2 out of 3…soon Tony will expose the other one..
Dominicans may say that Tony has no morals…but dash it all…. the man is a brilliant lawyer …after all ….When he fires missiles – he expects to sink a few ships ….and that’s just what he is doing… once one’s credibility has been destroyed, what is one left with?
Nicely put, Wondering. ‘Cause our people are so untrained in the way the civilized (if that still exists) world operates.
So many think the law is biased in favor or the respondents in this case.
Let the law work. And let the best lawyer who can “spin” the “facts” win.
but eddison and ron green not ease…so all u coming and answer question about all u self…not skerit and peter that on trial nah…boss all u too sort ..so eddison and run green want to come and run dominica there..garson i give up on skerit and is now i give up on green and eddison…u see that thing there just make tim tim the priminister an done.. lmfao
The power of labour making them day-par-lay.The judge should tell them get the F out of my courtroom u idiots wasting my time.
You killing me, Salop. Well yes, that is lakeoh! What a waste of time by them fellas. No wonder they could not win the elections.
Their firts win was a fluke.
That is just the heights of hypocrisy, so Ron Green is considered Dominican by Eddison James knowing that he held us citizenship then. oh i see how the game is played now. Question: Can i renounce my citizenship nah from Dominica? Is it even possible for a citizen to say i dont want to be a citizen anymore? we not talking a green card holder nah, we talking a citizen…
@ East Passie
You make me laugh.
God gave every one a freedom of right. You can renounce it and go and live under a dictatorship government as in Cuba, etc. 
On another note, once a citizen of the soil, a Dominican-born always a Dominican citizen. Nothing can erase that and not even on paper. This is why I am unable to comprehend what this Court case is all about because of an out-dated Constitution which should be re-written to suit the times in which we are living in. Every one speaks of modern age. Then, this Constitution should be re-written; some of it anyway pertaining to dual citizenship and holding a government portfolio such as a PM and Leader. This happens in other countries although I do not wish to sound like a copycat of what other countries do. It is time that this Constitution be updated. Let us wait and see the outcome of this case. I do hope it will be in the favor of the PM and St. Jean. Then, the change should be considered. This will avoid such future problems, overall time and costs and in the event I wish to permanently return home and run for PM in Dominica with my Canadian passport.
Did I read right. My God! Eddie is the one who decides who is Dominican or not. I would love to hear Lennox’s take on events thus far. Journalist or Journala**?
..WASTING TAXPAYERS MONEY…AND FOR WHAT? THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH, AND SO IS THE LAW…BUT IN SPITE ALL THE RORO WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED LONG BEFORE IT STARTED…DOMINICA NEEDS STABILITY.. THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT SKERITT, RON, PETER OR EDISON IT’S WE THE PEOPLE…
WE ALL CRAVE FOR IMPROVEMENT, BUT ALSO CONDEMN THE ONE THAT ARE TRYING TO DO WHAT WE ARE UNABLE TO DO, GOVERN DOMINICA…
TWO WRONG WONT MAKE A RIGHT BUT DOMINICA WILL CRUMBLE WITHOUT PROPER STRUCTURE…
DOMINICAN ARE LOVING PEOPLE IF WE ALL COME TOGETHER…
WE SHOULD PUT OUR ENERGY IN GOING FORWARD..NOT BREAK THE BRIDGE WHILE WE ARE ALL STANDING ON IT..
And every brain-washed, fanatic Christian has a passport to Heaven.
Phrophet2 Where do you have your passeport to? Just curious!
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CARICOM.
@ Prophet 2
We are all God’s children. Everyone has a passport to Heaven, the pagans, other non-Christians, agnostics and atheists on condition that they recognize God, embrace the faith, do not reject Him and no matter what persevere to the end.
Our Lord said: “Anyone who believes in Him will not be put to shame and perish.” This is what it means in spiritual terms, “will not be put to shame.”
Heaven is promised to all God’s created children. It all depends what we do with the free mind which God gave us which He will not touch and the path we choose. Earth is a testing ground for this.
@Justice and Truth
“We are all God’s children” I cannot let that one pass, because it is not a “Truth”
You said it yourself: “on condition that they recognize God” Why would I not recognize my own father, who loves me so much?
That is why Jesus, Himself, said to the leaders of the Jews who did not accept Him, but they claimed that God was their father. Jesus said to them: “You are the children of your father the devil—-and the work of your father you want to do. Those men were plotting to kill Jesus, which we all know that they succeeded in doing.
Also way back in Genesis 3, God Almighty said to the serpent–Satan, or Lucifer in disguise when he seduced Eve–“I will make enmity between “your” seed and “her” seed”
That alone tells me that Satan uses his men servants to impregnate females. Hence Satan has his own children in this world, creating havoc in the lives of God’s children.
Finally Jesus tells us through the man Nicodemus: “You must be born again, of water and the Spirit”!
What is the reason that Jesus is suggesting that I undergo a spiritual birth, if I am already a child of God.
Because as long as I exist with my carnal mind, not knowing God and His influence from conscience, I am simply a mortal being who can pass away, with a dead soul, anytime. God is Love of Spirit, Truth, and Holiness and I must become like Him, through faith.
Apostle John confirms: “Behold what manner of Love the Father has bestowed on us that we should be called children of of God! Therefor the world does not know us, because it did not know Him”.
The world and us are both “people or children” but “us” are the children of the Heavenly God, the “world” are the children of the god of this world–his name is Satan.
The father of this world and his children are at the centre of this political turmoil, which we should be talking about here, to beging with.
But I must continue, to say that God created people and He loves all people, becaus He has the nature of Love. However, unless one is born again of water and the Spirit, he remains a child of mortality, his human parents of flesh and blood alone, not a child of God.
That which is born of flesh is flesh and that which is born of Spirit is spirit. You must be born again! Says the Man, Himself, Jesus Christ.
Sorry readers for having gone off the topic. But I could not let that one pass. The reason too many people are blaming God, when their troubles come.
They asked why, if I am a child of God, why does He allow me to go through so much pain? That is not a fair question against a God who is Love, full of mercy and compassion.
So because you are in London you address us as fools. Six words later, your semi-illiteracy became evident. Check out the irony: “we reads”, ….” i consideres”…WTF is that? You use capital letters when you should not and you do not use them when you should. (Re: dominica, i,french). I have not joined the DNO grammar police, but when folks like you want to show off and humiliate us, we do not take it kindly especially when you expose how shallow you are. So be good and good will follow you. How is London today? Nice? Nice!!
I think Guadeloupe is closer to Dominica than the states wi so if it’s OK for Ron to run for office as a citizen of the America then it is more than okay for PM Skerritt to take off like bolt for office in Dominica the country of his birth french man or not …….thank u
Please enrol in the numerous adult classes to study basic English at your local college. Your grammar shows us who the real fool is.
People like you piss me off.
@ London
Do you really live in London and in England? There is also a London in Ontario, Canada which you may or may not know if you reside in London, England.
Retract your greeting although the spoken word can never come back.
I reside in Canada and provide my comments but I would never greet my fellow people, Dominicans, in such a manner. I object to this type of unbecoming greeting. It is disrespectful. You owe them an apology.
Politics in London and in Canada could be similar. Politicians in those countries could make a mess of the system. There are times I often wonder if they know what they are saying and doing. Therefore, do not lord it over your fellow Dominicans in Dominica. Who are you anyway?
St. Paul told us never lose an opportunity to be kind. Comment if you feel you have to; think; speak the truth based on the truth; be emphatic if you feel you have to; explain yourself; give examples but always be kind. I do recognize that some people could misunderstand them and what we wish to relay. Nevertheless, I reiterate, be kind and to your fellow people.
Their MATURITY ABILITY HONESTY with INTEGRITY and ACCOUNTABILITY is necessary to bring us back to FULL RECOVERY from this present crisis
Please, go directly to the psychiatric ward immediately and have yourself committed you are obviously suffering from a severe metal health disorder.
I will agree they have mturity – perhaps too much of it. If you think Ron or Edison have the intelligence, integrity or ability to lead our nation you have certainly lost your mind!
@ Truth B Told
“Mental” disorder and “maturity”. Just errors and merely pointing them out to you which I know you overlooked; no major problem. However, I do agree with your viewpoint.
Once again…the ignorance will continue to flow among Dominicans posting on Dominica News Online.
The line of questioning from Tony Astaphan is not geared towards winning the case for Mr. Skerrit and St. Jean. It is geared at keeping the ignorant, ignorant and setting up the environment for unrest in Dominica, should Skerrit and St. Jean be found guilty.
Mr. Astaphans knows fully well, that the two persons before the court for dual citizenship issues are Skerrit and Peter. However, he chooses to question Ron Green about his dual citizenship to side track the court and the members of the public.
Now that DNO has done a story on it, this is exactly what the DLP wants, to keep the people ignorant of the facts and of the issue at hand.
They know fully well, that the circumstances surrounding Ron Green’s Us nationality is totally different from that of Skerrit and Peter, but they will play on the minds of Dominicans who JUST DON”T READ and LEARN and EDUCATE themselves….for themselves.
Very unfortunate, but this too shall pass.
I thought the defense had a right to question the credibility of the witness. A knowledgeable person like you know that many cases are thrown out of US courts based on “how” the evidence was gathered.
Perhaps you should educate yourself on the legal issues also.
We are in the court of law, not at a convention where the UWP can say anything against the Labour and so forth.
You do know that one of the job of cross examination is to discredit a witness, make the witness look noot credible…make him look unreliable right?
stuck.
Having said that, irrespective as to whether the Labour or UWP wins… these two gentlemen – GREEN and Edison – made statements that will have repercussions later on. these statements to the Dominicans who CANNOT READ, will have the impact Tony wants it to have – it shows them as hypocritical, liars, double standard not to be trusted MEN….(PERIOD, PERIOD, PERIOD)
Dominicans may not be able to read – but they are able to understand, they are able to see …and they are able to decide what is for their best interest.
I’m happy that admitted that you can’t read. Nothing more need to say here. You have re-enforced my point. Let next week unfold, lol….
@ Curious
“Dominicans”. Here you go, generalizing. Error! Both political Parties have their supporters. Therefore, they do not comprise of every Dominican.
Have you considered that some Dominicans could be wrong and in their manner of thinking, based on their political preference as in this case which you have commented on?
And so since you appear to be an expert, who and what do you think is in the interest of Dominicans?
Just to clear the air…. is not me that write that “Dominican’s don’t read” thing
OU SE’ ON TEBEH MAN??? LMAO…
YOU THAT CANNOT READ!!!! Educate yourself first and you’ll know that Mr. Astaphans is not side tracking nothing but making clear of what he rule of law allows him to make clear of and brings the attention to the court, that a person who was once a perpetrator in the same act is bringing another to pay for a crime he never payed for!!! ALL U TOO JALOUZIE!!! and what do they say? go ask your elders
Showing off your stupidity, eh. Since when you hear a civil case can end with finding of “guilt?” Doettish.
It is called lawyering – the same tack you’d take (finding the best) to fight your case – civil and criminal in court.
Of course, that is if you can afford one.
Thank you Mr Dominican who alone reads. You apparently only read what you want to read or what you want to hear>
VERY TRUE FACTS BUT WHERE ARE THE U W P LAWYERS TO OBJECT TO ASTAPHANS LINE OF QUESTIONING OR EVEN RECESS THE COURT TO RE STRATEGISE WHEN THE JUDGE RULES AGAINST THE ACQUESED TAKING THE STAND.
see how their lawyer watching them at their back in the photo.he maybe all saying allu fools i hope allu have my money to pay after that drama is over.lol
i WAS SOOOOO INTO THAT STATEMENT I DIDN’T EVEN REALIZE THE OTHER COMMENTS POSTED ABOUT IT!!!!!
KISSA KI KA FAIRE EDDISON JAMES NUH???? they talk so much they talking about themselves!!!
Thought Provoking I agree with you too. What’s Fan’s point? I, too, would like to know.
my point is all how you look at it he is dominican
who said he was not dominican! foolish
DID EDDISON JAMES JUST SAY THAT??? DID HE JUST SAY THAT??? TELL ME I’M READING WRONGLY!!!!
He also said, “I knew that Mr. Green was a US citizen as that had been a matter of public discussion before BUT I CONSIDERED him a Dominican.”
IS THAT THE WORDS OF THE PRESIDENT OF UWP??? AHBEN WEH WEH WEH!!!! WHY CAN’T YOU CONSIDER ST JEAN AND SKERRIT AS DOMINICANS TOO???
We may have to define the word “Dominican” after this trial. There seem to be politically, Frenchman Dominican, American Dominican , even Bajan Dominican
Ron Green is about 71 years old and lived in the United States with his first wife for over 20 years, during that time he fathered a few children, paid his taxes and sang the US National Anthem.Before that time, he served his US Government as a Peace Corps Officer and took the Oath of Allegence to his country:The USA
First of all.All this crap that going on in DA is bull. both sides and i mean both, are only out for their self and we all know it. why do we even have to go through this crap all the time. When will Dominicans wake up and be a people that actually have common sense. We are so looking for hand out from both parties that we as a nation will allow any crap that happen in DA to be tolerated.
This country will never go anywhere with all the morons in government, opposition and the biggest morons of them all the people that will support them blindly without thinking for them self’s.
I know some people will get offended and good. cause anyone that want this nonsense to stop will see where am coming from its time we the people take back Dominica. its not labor, UWP or freedom own. its the people own and we that have common sense need to take hold of the country and move it in the direction we want it to. These idiots have been at the wheel long enough.
And for those that offended because a Dominican has had enough of all this politicians.
Good Am glad your offended.
maybe its time you stop putting party or politician first and think of your country as a whole and its future.
well said
Who took whom to court Mr Bull Crap? Answer that and probably write another commentary>
Correction – You CAN NOT be MISS DOMINICA because you was NOT BORN in Dominica.
Who is on trial?
Eddison James
Ron Green
Roosevelt Skerritt
Lennox Linton
WOW! RON GREEN a “UNITED STATES CITIZEN” and fighting to get Roosevelt out so he can get in! I’ve always known Roosevelt’s mother was born in Guadeloupe, but Roosevelt was born in VIEILLE CASE, “DOMINICA.” Many of us are citizens of other countries but we are still “DOMINICANS.” My birthright is in DOMINICA. My birth cirtificate is still the same. The certificate of CITIZENSHIP reads PLACE OF BIRTH “DOMINICA” Don’t worry I’m not planning to run for office. I think if anyone holds dual citizenship they can run for public office but NOT “PRIME MINISTER.” I also think that even if a person attends school in Dominica and that person was born in another country that person could represent the school but not the Island as a whole as Miss Dominica. You CAN NOT be MISS DOMINICA because you was NOT from Dominica.
SMDFH, Dominican, FAN, WIKILEAKS, mendezy, and Papa Dom, I do agree with all of your arguements. I think it is past time for us to remove our blinders and see who is really there to help us and who is not. Also, I think that any Prime Minister should have only TWO TERMS in office, and if for any reason there should be a third or fourth term this should be determined by fair and honest election. That person should have a VISION to moving FORWARD.
(FAN (Penville) I grew up speaking PATOIS, today I hear Dominicans speak CREOLE. (Too many HAITIANS at HOME) I still argue that I speak PATOIS.) What happened to patois? is it invalid? If yes, too bad because that’s what I speak…..Nothing personal.
A point of correction. Creole is a patois. Patois is a term to recognise a dialect or local language amongst a specific group of persons,so there is for example Jamaican patois, Barbadian patois etc. Cocoy (broken English)spoken in Marigot, Wesley and Woodfordhill is a patois.
Efforts have been made over the past two decades to standardize creole as the kweyol language. There was a committee to advance the development of the language in terms of uniformed spelling and grammar. Marcel Djamala Fontaine and Felix Henderson were part of that effort.
Note that the US state of Louisiana, St.Lucia, Haiti, Seychelles, Dominica among others, were involved in that effort. The Haitians have made great stride in having it recognized in Florida to some extent.
The thing to know about a good politician is how effective is he or she about lying, because that is cloak that they all carry, and this case is about how the better liar each politician is. Baby it is all about who can fool the most people about how well they can lie and make it look like the truth. They all lie, all of them.
How and why did our small island home find itslef as the laughing stock of the Caribbean?
The court shouldhave answered this question at least 90 days after the election and settle the matter.
THE ISSUE AT HAND IS WHETHER OR NOT SKERRIT AND ST.JEAN WERE FRENCH CITIZENS AT THE TIME OF NOMINATIONS? YES OR NO?
NOW WHY SHOULD GREEN HAVE TO GIVE TESTIMONY AND NOT SKERRIT OR ST.JEAN??
LET JUSTICE TAKE IT’S COURSE. BUT CAN THAT HAPPEN IN DOMINICA, TODAY???
THE LAW IS NOT GREEN, BLUE OR RED.
CHANSE MOUTON se pa CHANSE Kabwit????
ahben it will have to be this way.. WHAT IS GOOD FOR GOOSE IS ALSO GOOD FOR THE GANDER!!!
Don’t try to make no bleddy excuses because if you listen to court cases you will hear perpetrators of the same crime being found during the hearings!!! even if the case is for Skerrit and St. Jean… GREEN DID IT TOO and not only once… MULTIPLE TIMES!!
Green is giving testimony because he is the complainant. He is the one pursuing the case. Meanwhile, Green wants Skerrit to come and testify against himself.
This is not about reg, blue or green law, my friend.
Because they took him to court
The issue is not if they were French citizens, rather the issue is how they acquired such citizenship. As both Mr. Skerrit and Mr. St.Jean acquired their citizenship as children and not by their own actions.
The case should have been dismissed long ago – it is just the UWP playing politics and a total waste of time.
Mr Post they took the PM and Minister ST Jean to court, They must be cross examined.
Do you look at the people’s court or have you been to court. You have to prove your point why you took the other side to court.
Mislead persons who just want to see ONE (1) man down.
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Answer me someone.
Who has no sin cast the first stone. Eveyone walked away but in this drama the ones guilty of the same sin is firing “coluewosh” left right and centre. Mind the “coulwosh” hit a post and hit them back. People beware what you do.
Post , you sot we. If you say I still your dasheen and you doh have the dasheen. I have the dasheen i hide it somewhere, would you expect me to bring the dashhen to the court and say look the dashhen I steal. The F in skerrit, peter and tony forehead is not for fool but food.
that is what i mean,they are the same”bet”they just ware diffrent color jacket,just feeding the masses with words while they try to control the swamp.’politicans boy!ijust doe trust them.
when i look at things… is best dominica get under the french or u.s.a if that was possible or even the dutch… too much seen going on… yet remember when those witnesses take the stand it will be trouble on skerro… the interesting scenario here is that and i quote
“Both sides agreed that under French law Duhamel cannot give information that suggests one possess or does not possess a French passport and that type of information can only be granted to officials, police officers conducting investigations or a judge.” since no police is involved… no officials of my knowledge…. WILL THE JUDGE PERSONALLY BY ORAL OR WRITTEN FORM…ASK FOR SUCH INFO TO BE BROUGHT TO COURT…
this case has lots of webs… but through the mazes justice ‘should’ be served.. and mr skerrit and mr st. jean must do the honourable thing
I don’t why somebody not find you and make you StFU!!!!
you are very illiterate right now!!! You HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF COURT PROCEDURE!!! DO YOU? NOPE, YOU DON’T!!
DIDN’T YOU READ THE PAST ARTICLES THAT THE JUDGE ALREADY RULE OUT THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BRING IT IN!!! gosh…some people can really make apes look smarter!! UGH!
@ “Agravated!”
You are hurting your cause by threatening the man. That kind of rage is uncalled for. When politicians sit together as Free Masons and other under-world lodges sipping their whiskey and laughing out loud, we the masses are in each other’s throat. We can disagree but we must learn to get along. Everyone has a part to play.
u all over the article like a baboon jumping from tree to tree…. ‘they’ meaning skerrit and st jean… if the plaintiffs have a means to prove it then they can… stop being foolish… the judge can decide by his/her power that this has to be seen and so order for it…. the judgement was that u can’t force the defendants to bring evidence to willfully incriminate themselves….
@ Sout Man… the person didn’t threaten anybody with his words… DoTish! He/she say wat they felt!
MOTS really need to STFU! Because he going back and repeat what an article said before!! He just there talking bullcrap
@ Stupes
Call me dotish if you want but I was just watching “agravated’s!” back. I don’t (know) why somebody not find you and make you STFU!!!” is inciting. I rather be a dotish than have the lawmen knocking at my door. Are you aware of the Trinidad case?
It’s obvious that MOTS chants for UWP but I can tell from his writing that he is an intelligent young man. His level of maturity is obvious when it comes to sexual topics. We can’t afford to be intolerant; otherwise we will soon be like the Haitian Tonton Macoute.
Since I feel so offended being called dotish let me add further that MOTS was quoting from the above article; not from any past article. Check paragraph 9 above.That paragraph says that an official, an investigating police officer or a judge, can ask the French official, Duhamel, (paragraph 8), for information relating to passports. That information could not have been given to those who wrote to the French official, (UWP). MOTS was arguing that since there was no investigating police officer or other official, why can’t the judge request it herself? I don’t think that the judge is in the collection of evidence business but that’s MOTS’ argument. Who’s the dotish now?
MOTS what is your probs nah bouy? Your pardners that make their case so they have to get their evidence. MOTS probably you need to get the facts for them fellahs.
remember that song a few years by the third eye? “the momo talking”, don you recall the line “WHO SAY DAT RON GREEN IS A DUAL CITIZEN?” Sir Brian Alleyne raised it in parliament during the freedom party government reign, and it seem like no big thing at the time. So Mr. James/Mr Green what is the big fuss about right now??
why is DNO embarassing Eddo so
whoosh 
caiso for so….can’t wait for 2012…we already know what we singing for road march crown……..whooooosh!!!
THE ISSUE AT HAND IS WHETHER OR NO SKERRIT AND ST.JEAN WERE FRENCH CITIZENS AT THE TIME OF 2009 NOMINATIONS.
THE DLP SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE MATTER WITH RON GREEN TO COURT AT THE TIME.
LET JUSTICE HAVE IT’S WAY AND NOT OUR WAY.
THE LAW IS NOT GREEN, BLUE OR RED.
That same system of justice is demanding that the person bringing the chaqrge has to prove thier case. The person being charged with a wrong doing cannot be asked to prove the wrong doing. That is not our system. If we find fault with that system, then let us work to fixing it up. In the mean time we have to abide always with the existing system of justice. We are not in court talking about moral values or ethical values. In court we discussed the law. Discussions on moral and ethical values are good but we all must undertsand that the law is the law. Indeed the law can be immoral. Let us therefore change our laws to reflect our moral values. We will soon find that morality is a very subjective issue.
” Indeed the law can be immoral.” Great insight, Roso Boy.
In fact, questions of morality are never monolithic. If you examine society well you may find that issues of morality st with time and especially with the power elite.
Those in control get to make the laws and determine right from wrong good from bad.
Incidentally, study the theories of the great philosophers like Plato and Socrates and you will find questions of morality dogged throughout their practice.
Extremely bright men who devoted their imaginations and intellect solely to matters of the heart. They dared not give definitive answers to such dogged issues.
Go figure.
that is not the issue. the issue is whether they recieved the citizenship of their own doing.
where is our uncle spraggers Hector John in all dat
He trying not to kill his political career before it born. He is “missing in inaction”.
too late. Eddie already kill it for him.
Man if u want Comic Relief just listen to those big men talk horse sh**, bull crap and all the rest of that comes out of their mouths…Ron Green is a US Citizen and he consideres him a Dominican…but Skerrit…Hell No Mister is a French man…LMAO
Only US people can be a Dominican. Frenchmen cannot be Dominican so says the Right Honourable E C James – elected Member for the Marigot Constituency.
We can make a great movie here with this one.
Grammy awards here we come!
So Green is considered a Dominican but Skerrit is considered a Frenchman?
LOL
VIEILLE CASE IS BETWEEN “THIBAUD” AND PENVIL” 2 HEAVY CREOLE/FRENCH SPEAKING VILLAGES…….LOL
Dominica is Between “Guadeloupe and Martinique” 2 heavy Creole/French speaking islands….Your Point?
through provoking have nooooooooooooo sense of humor wat so ever!!
THOUGHT*
I am not here to be funny, if I want funny I go to comedy central, this is a place for serious business and serious issues, some of you Dominicans play too much that’s why many of you guys are never taken seriously by the rest of the World.
Mr James, what are you saying….”He also said, “I knew that Mr. Green was a US citizen as that had been a matter of public discussion before but I considered him a Dominican.”
HYPOCRISY TO THE MAX….MAXIMUM
BUT DOMINICANS ARE SEEING STRAIGHT THROUGH YOU GUYS
Are you guys forgetting Ron Green is NOT on trial? This information has absolutely no bearing in this case.
He also said, “I knew that Mr. Green was a US citizen as that had been a matter of public discussion before but I considered him a Dominican.” Thats the funny part. Politician think they can still fool people. Not me I looking for myself.
what is wrong with you jacks?
good question?