Evangelical church officials deny silence on moral issues

Marcus Francis
Marcus Francis

The Dominica Association of Evangelical Churches (DAEC) is dismissing claims that they are tight-lipped on certain moral issues which some say are plaguing the society.

Executive Member of the DAEC, Pastor Marcus Francis, said the church has been very vocal on other issues of morality in Dominica.

“The church is not silent on other moral issues,” he stated at a press conference on Wednesday. “The church may not speak in forums where they are heard in the public but the church is not silent on moral issues.”

He noted that if there is going to be a change in society, there must be a change of heart. “We believe if you are going to have a changed society you need to have changed hearts because it is the heart of man that is evil,” he stated. “The only way you can have a changed heart is through Jesus Christ.”

Francis noted that the church recognises it has a role to play “like other institutions and each institution is playing its role and we are doing ours.”

Francis said there are quite a number of churches in Dominica and if they are visited, one will see “ministers of the gospel preaching against the evils and against immorality.”

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97 Comments

  1. DA/roots
    August 29, 2014

    The church has been speaking for years , with open invitation to all freely , but some people were wise to take heed while others chose otherwise . However in times like these it just right to make greater use of , the radio , the newspaper, television , and the internet , which without a doubt , some have been utilizing already

  2. The end of times
    June 2, 2013

    the us, France and other huge countries are all legalizing gay marriage and gay rights..thus soon the smaller countries will adopt the trend…but GOds word says that the world will not be consumed by water (in Noah’s time) but will be consumed by fire…the bible also tells us that sodom and Gomorrah was burnt down..the earth will be burnt like sodom and Gomorrah ….you better be ready to meet the maker

    • roger
      June 10, 2013

      “Caribbean governments are totally willing to talk about human rights, they want to give a good show on the issue, but they repeatedly prove unreliable in giving any teeth to those ‘commitments’”, said Colin Robinson, Secretary of the Caribbean Forum for Liberation and Acceptance of Genders and Sexualities (CariFLAGS), a 16-year-old indigenous LGBTI network which has recently set up offices in Castries, Kingston, Port of Spain and Santo Domingo. “The creation of Caribbean societies was founded on the persistent violation of human rights”, he said. “Postcolonially, Caribbean nations ought to be among the most visionary and eager champions of human rights. But when it comes to letting our people be free to enjoy their bodies with dignity, we’re clinging to pre-Emancipation practices, and proud to remain at the bottom of the class in the Americas.”

  3. Justice and Truth
    June 1, 2013

    To be fair, the homosexual group addressed the issue to the Dominica Catholic Church. Furthermore there were many comments from Dominicans in general. The evangelical church probably did not find it necessary to respond and to duplicate their views. In this case, you should consider this and excuse them.

  4. interesting
    May 31, 2013

    Very interesting! Tune in to Voice of Life Radio on Saturday June 1 2013 at 6pm for more. You might just get the full STORY, More will be exposed.

    • Anonymous
      June 1, 2013

      Sorry, it’s actually from 5 – 7 pm this afternoon.

  5. DA Pride
    May 31, 2013

    II believe my people have this all mixed up. Firstly The Lord has given us free will. With this we have to decide for ourselves if we will accept or reject Jesus Christ as our Saviour. The Bible clearly states and please allow me to paraphrase that each man MUST work out his salvation for himself. Secondly we have been given by God ordained minister to aid us on our walk with God. It is true that they “should” be examples to the church but let us not forget that being a Christian does not make you less human. As a matter of fact the life of a minister is quite a challenging one. Sadly some fall under the weight. We cannot depend solely on these men for spiritual guidance. We need to develop a relationship with God and ask him for a spirit discernment. Help us to understand his word and to use it to make sound moral decisions. I applaud the efforts of ALL the spiritual/religious leaders of Dominica. The calling on your life is not an easy task. Continue to fight for our land. Give no place to the devil.

  6. Joe
    May 31, 2013

    So many marijuana users are persecuted and actually being jailed and imprisoned daily, I don’t hear such outcry as I am reading hear from supporters of this nasty act some have also chosen to do. Legalize or decriminalize weed before this thing.

  7. May 31, 2013

    @Frenz May 30, 2013 “According to the story Jesus went into a market place and caused a raucous. Jesus openly chastised the politicians”.

    You know that this statement above is a bold face lie, no wonder you are claiming hell because you have judged yourself according to your work in this world.

    You are doing the work of you father, the god of this world–Jesus said he was a murderer and a liar from the beginning and he continues to be the father of lies in this world–but why do you allow him to use you through his wicked schemes

    Jesus did not go into any market to cause any raucous as you claimed; I do not know where you got your story from, but it most certainly is not from the Word of God–the Holy Bible Read the account of the Bible–it is from Mark 11

    I know it will expose the lie which you allowed God’s enemy and yours as well to speak to the innocent, the ignorant, or any person who searching for the Truth of God–how shameful!

    Jesus Cleanses the Temple

    15 So they came to Jerusalem. Then Jesus went into the temple and began to drive out those who bought and sold in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who sold doves.

    16 And He would not allow anyone to carry wares through the temple.

    17 Then He taught, saying to them, “Is it not written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations’? But you have made it a ‘den of thieves.’

    18 And the scribes and chief priests heard it and sought how they might destroy Him; for they feared Him, because all the people were astonished at His teaching.

    That scripture should also show you that you also told another lie when you said: “Jesus openly chastised the politicians”.

    The apostle John said Jesus came to His own–and Jesus’ own in those days were the assembly of Israel, the Israelites were under the rule of Rome–that is where the politicians belong–Roe belonged with the group of “Gentiles” not Jews.

    Jesus came to bring Salvation to people who would believe in His death and resurrection; Jesus was about peace and unity for all people–the flocks of sheep which He said would come to belong in one fold and they would have One Shepherd.

    • Gary
      May 31, 2013

      Why are you so arrogant.Why you take the limits of your own field of vision with your religious beliefs for the limits of the world. I have told you before that you portray no wisdom.You are a believer locked in cage who refuses to see beyond that cage or prison you are locked in.There is a beautiful world out there from that cage you put your self in.

      Why is it you think other people cannot have their own interpretation of the Bible even it is different from yours.Where do you get that silly attitude that you are always right.That kind of attitude is, unchristian, sometimes I marvel at the things you say to people.You sound as if God appointed you to be a judge on this Earth,you need to humble your self,detach your self from that ego,very destructive.

      • June 3, 2013

        @Gary May 31, 2013

        Why are you even mentioning God in your stupidity, you don’t even know Him since you claim to worship the “Sun” and not Him who created that “Sun”

        Who in hell’s name do you think you are with your thing “I have told you” What would you know about “wisdom” which is about Life since you continue with a state of mind in its carnal state with no instinct of Life, but producing the things of death, as you continue to exist in death.

        “Sometimes I marvel at the things you say to people. You sound as if God appointed you to be a judge on this Earth” Gary Well that is something good about me, for the wise old men in the temple marveled at the sayings of Jesus, when He talked to them and asked them questions as He sat with them there.

        And as far as judging others, it is not my intention to do so, but you are the one who said it. However I am a spirit filled person and so I have the right to judge others, but no one can judge me. Read it right here; “But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one” 1st Corinthians 2: 15

        It is time that you “shut up” about me because you will never understand a person like, for what have death got to do with Life?

        You are the one of death who needs to stay away from the “Living”, which is me, for you are invisible to people like me.

  8. Justice and Truth
    May 30, 2013

    What church? Disobedience to God, disunity, lack of love and peace, this is what those types of churches have contributed to Dominica. They cannot do anything good. Challenge me on that and I will add more.

    • Ben Haynes PsyD
      June 17, 2013

      challenge you? l don’t think you are worth challenging. We don’t have time for bias statements.

  9. Frabo
    May 30, 2013

    what they do again?

  10. Frabo
    May 30, 2013

    Do they still have Spanish women in Portsmouth? What they do again???

  11. Tumble, Back kick
    May 30, 2013

    The thing is pastors do preach but end up compromising their integrity when they get too chummy with politicians. The church members themselves put party first and openly endorse, praise and ask god to bless those self serving politicians.
    We cannot forget that The people of Israel wanted a king and god gave it to them, God also turned his back on that same king.
    After Jezebel used Ahab to kill all the prophets of God, Elijah the last man standing rebuked Ahab openly. Well, that you wont see in Da because everyone is like dog for bone.

  12. Observer
    May 30, 2013

    WelL, if that’s where you choose to go F R E N Z it’s sad no one can send you to hell but yourself.

    However, if you end up there you won’t have time to be chef much less to look for hypocrites. There’ll be too many crawlies crawling through your body that you will be busy trying to brush off and that’s only a little piece of the torment down there. Hell is a dreadful place to be!

    T H I N K O N T H A T.

    Read the book of Revelation and make that conscious effort to avoid going to that place bro.

    The ball is in your court, roll it well and choose eternal life in Heaven forever with Jesus Christ.

    Love you bro.

  13. Reality Check
    May 30, 2013

    Bat tablet zoh! Zoh tout sa mem bet mem pwell!

  14. Lily
    May 30, 2013

    Church and State should be two separate things….and not everyone is christian or spiritual…so stop trying to shove your bible quotes down my throat.

    DNO you should link this article – http://www.salisbury.anglican.org/news/bishop-restates

    • May 30, 2013

      No one forced you on DNO- No one came to your house and tell you to repent. You CHOSE to read what was written on here, so please, tell me who is shoving anything down your throat? Amazing!

      • Lily
        May 30, 2013

        Tasie I will always come on here to shut down and tell off idiots like you…you need to be put in your place and called out for what you are and the disgusting creature you are….FAR more appalling than these gays who many have much better hearts than you…THAT is a FACT

      • Dominca_Lover
        May 31, 2013

        Taseie you can’t read he is saying the government should not be linked to the church. As the government represents all not just those who are Christians and DNO’S job is to report and he has a right to comment on anything he reads just like you did with him to state your point. You yourself did not have to read

  15. Well well
    May 30, 2013

    Well then talk publicly about what is going on in the government just as you do an the gay issue. Keep a press conference to talk about it.

  16. Pondera
    May 30, 2013

    Pastor Marcus, with all due respect to you, what you have said here and nothing are the same. You had a golden opportunity to state a position as the Bishop did. Did you read the Bishop’s statement on the matter at hand. It was a principled position, well constructed and laced with prudence. You had a chance to do the same. We in the evangelical arena must be better read and avail ourselves to the opportunity to educate the public especially when they are listening. The question remains “What is your position of discrimination leveled against homosexuals?” And remember these persons are part of your congregation and sometimes serve in church leadership.

    You guys need to speak with intelligence and Holy Spirit guidance.

    • Anonymous
      May 31, 2013

      you obviously did not listen to the press conference, the statement pastor bill made is the statement by the DAEC anything else on DNO is as a result of questions ask by the reporters and not a different issue

    • SMH
      May 31, 2013

      It is amazing that Pondera who claims to be so in tune with the Holy Spirit does not know eloquence is not indicative of Holy Spirit guidance, how sad. If I have proper understanding, Pastor Marcus is responding to a question on the perception that the Church is silent on issues of morality. By default you claim to be intelligent and Holy Spirit directed, then why are you being so disrespectful to a leader. Does anonymity give you that license? What does the Word have to say? Apparently, you are way beyond the pastor’s level of intelligence and his position is biblical. Holy Spirit cannot guide you to be disrespectful

    • Eh beh whey
      May 31, 2013

      Pondera did you read DAEC’s Statement or are you just parroting what others are saying. For your information and education I have copied part of their Statement.

      “HUMAN RIGHTS AND VIOLENCE

      The Bible teaches us that Man is the crown of God’s creation and he/[she] is fearfully and wonderfully made in His image and likeness. The Psalmist points out to us God’s view of man in [Psalm 8] he writes: 4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? And the son of man, that thou visitest him? 5 For thou hast made him but little lower than God, And crownest him with glory and honor.

      The Church

      holds that all created human beings must be respected and protected at all times.

      rejects all forms of violence against human beings.

      The Bible encourages a life of love towards all people. Jesus extended love to all those with whom he came into contact and chastised the leaders who perpetrated any form of violence towards people. God demonstrated his love to us; while we were in sin he sent Jesus to die for us. [Romans 5:8] But God commendeth his own love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

      The Church

      is therefore encouraged to follow the pattern of Jesus and extend God’s love to all people. [1John 4:11] Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought to love one another.”

  17. Skeptic
    May 30, 2013

    I think there is a big disconnect….Most people who have commented on the buggery issue seem to believe that if the laws are repealed there will be an increase in gay sexual activity in the public. This is not going to happen. Adultery, fornication, lust and greed; all of these are sins. Dominicans seem to forget about these things, and all the other ills that plague society. Only homosexuality is a sin. Biblical law cannot be used as a basis for secular law. Not everyone is Christian, some people align with different religious affiliations, and there are others who are not religious at all. Why should what you believe be used to legislate what some us don’t believe in. Why is it selective belief/only parts of the bible should be applicable as law? As others have mentioned, slavery is endorsed in the bible (multiple places too). Why not make that part of the law, why not prohibit adultery and fornication by law. You are not the only people in the world, everybody cannot be like you. Learn to respect others for who they really are, human rights shouldn’t be for a select few.

    • May 31, 2013

      @Skeptic May 30, 2013 Not everyone is Christian, some people align with different religious affiliations, and there are others who are not religious at all. Why should what you believe be used to legislate what some us don’t believe in

      First of all Christianity is not a religion, it a personal or intimate Love relationship with God, Eternal Sprit, who is Christ in the Man Jesus.

      It was religion and its rules which ignited the desire of God’s own chosen people–the Children of Israel to call for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, who was the Emmanuel, meaning God with us in the flesh –because He would not bow down to their religious rules and regulations

      We hear God lamenting about His chosen people, when He said: “These people honor Me with their lips but their heart is far from Me and in vain they worship Me teaching as doctrines the commandments of men”

      This Scripture is spoken in the Old Testament of the Bible through the Prophet Isaiah, and Jesus repeated it in the New Testament–that is to tell you that God wants nothing to do with the work of religion and rules or laws.

      Religion was born through the wisdom and understanding of man–it is unfortunate that many of the Churches still cling to the things of religion–just like in the old days–that is because those people lack knowledge of God, claiming to believe in Him without putting their fait to work. But without faith we cannot know what is the good, acceptable, and perfect Will of God that we might do it and live.

      But God said they are worshipping Him in vain through their religious practice. He said that religion and it works are the commandments of men–they are not from Him

      God is Spirit; He is the Living God in His Person of Love, who is Jesus Christ and Christians ought to worship Him in Spirit and Truth–religion has nothing to do with the Spirit.

      • May 31, 2013

        “You are not the only people in the world, everybody cannot be like you. Learn to respect others for who they really are, human rights shouldn’t be for a select few”–Skeptic

        You are right in that first line above, however as true Christians we live in this world but we do not belong to it; and so God commands us to come out from among them! “Them” here mesans the “world” in question, who will not abide by His laws

        And what are talking about learning to “respect”? Respect is a character that we all have–even our dogs and cats have respect. But we only share this respect in us, with those who deserve it. In other words if you want respect from me you will have to earn my respect–otherwise you don’t get it–not ever!

        Also some human beings do not know how to earn their rights of people–that is also a privilege that is not granted–it must be earned.

        It is bad enough as it is already, much more for if every Ton Dick and Harry; every idiot, every fool, and every person without shame and remorse–and including you whatever you are– were given the right to do as they please.

  18. truth offends
    May 30, 2013

    Pas. Bill Daniel/ The Evangelical . Gentlemen, I am a born again believer and according to the bible we preach, homosexuality is wrong. God ordained sex to be enjoyed by a man and a woman and better yet, husband and wife. However, you all deserve to be rebuked openly because clearly, as church based organization, you have failed to represent the voice of the church and your presence in politics is seen much more than in the voice of the church. For example, the nation saw pastors like yourself and Bill Daniel along with other pastors, dressed in red Tshirt attending a DLP convention? Furthermore, during the last election, some of you pastors either closed the church on Sunday Morning to attend a DLP convention while others had an early morning short service. What a testimony! Furthermore, since the last election, the integrity of those in authority was being questioned many times and you Never said a word.
    Moreover, as bad and ungodly as homosexuality is, we must also remember that with God all sins are equally wrong and the job of the church has always been to first of all, live righteously and then preach righteousness. How can we as a church condemn homosexuality so forcefully (although I believe it is devilish and animalish) while we bless murderers? By this I mean, we remember how a young mother brutally murdered two of her children; what did the church say or did to address this ungodly deed? I know it was a difficult time for all and I can understand giving spiritual support at that time. In fact, the funeral and burial was handled by these same gentlemen and yet they never publicly addressed it. The person in question somehow never served time in prison and was allowed to leave Dominica. Did the church condemn injustice?
    I have many more questions but knowing how DNO is so concerned about lawsuit, I will hold my peace for now. But plz gentlemen, your move here is not about the kingdom of God but partisan politics. PM Skerrit, whom one of your members who was at that time a preacher, referred to as jesus; since you never condemn that, I have to assume that you all hold the same view, is about to call an election, and you all are just using the bible to campaign for Skerrit as you did the last time.

  19. Gary
    May 30, 2013

    I have always asked my self why should an individual look towards a Church or an institution for moral guidance.Where is the individual conscience, is it not given to us to exercise,What’s wrong with an individual exercising his God given right to decide his own morality.Who authorize these people to be the moral compass for a Nation.The people who run this so called organizations The Dominica Association of Evangelical Churches are human just like all of us, what makes them special that they should appoint themselves as vanguards for morality.When a country is facing a crisis why should the citizen ask permission or seek their consent to do what is right, how absurd is this.These institutions and Churches make public statements only when it suits them or convenient to them.Some time back a young man was brutally attacked and killed in Portsmouth simply because his attacker felt he was gay.These so called vanguards for morality never gave any National condemnation for such crime.

    I’m not here to judge or condemn people for having religious beliefs,everyone is entitled to their religious beliefs our constitution allows it.But when religious beliefs are used to established laws and morality in the Name of God and Jesus on a Nation something is wrong.Where are the Political leaders.Why are they not speaking up, isn’t that not a threat to our constitution.When Pastor Marcus said that there is going to be a change in society and society must change.I would like to ask him what change is he talking about,why is he being so subtle.

  20. J.J.John-Charles
    May 30, 2013

    can u SEE it.It proves that I am finite

  21. LCM
    May 30, 2013

    There is only one judge. Prostitutes and thieves will enter the kingdom before some of us seemingly holy ones. Lets reflect on our lives and values instead of trying to dictating to others. Life example is louder than words.

    • Reality Check
      May 30, 2013

      LCM, I agree with you 100% and they usually shout the loudest against the sins they are guilty of.

  22. J.J.John-Charles
    May 30, 2013

    It should be in gravity and can you seen it?

  23. J.J.John-Charles
    May 30, 2013

    Dominica_Lover do you believe is gravity,tell me can you seen it? Same thing goes to your conscience have you seen it.What about the wind can you tell me where it is coming from and where it is going.I will not ask you if you have felt it,because you say you want physical proof,not something that is felt.
    42 years ago I used to ask the same questions,but now I can sing.

    There is joy in serving Jesus
    As I journey on my way
    Joy that feels my heart with praises
    Every hour and every day.

    There is joy,joy
    Joy in serving Jesus
    Joy that throbs within my heart
    Every moment every hour
    As I draw upon His power
    There is joy,joy
    Joy that never shall depart.

    • Dominica_Lover
      May 31, 2013

      I see gravity in action all the time. And God?

    • Dominica_Lover
      May 31, 2013

      Give me a proof of God and I can prove all what you have said… I cannot prove God. Since I was 6 I never believed and now I am in 30’s and I still don’t believe.

      • AFoolSaysTheresNoGod
        June 1, 2013

        What proof are you looking for exactly?

        You see, when it comes to proof and evidence, the closest thing we can get to, is what a lawyer calls proof beyond reasonable doubt (apart from mathematics, but that is another story). What this means is that when we are asked to “prove” something, what we need to do, is only provide enough evidence to convince someone that a certain claim is true.

        For example, I cannot prove to you that my wife loves me. But what I can do is give you the evidence of 11 years of marriage and all the things she has said and done to give you proof that it is true. You then need to make a choice based on my evidence.

      • June 3, 2013

        @Dominica_Lover May 31, 2013 Give me a proof of God and I can prove all what you have said… I cannot prove God. Since I was 6 I never believed and now I am in 30′s and I still don’t believe.

        God alone can prove Himself to you, but you have to choose to want Him to do so. And the reason you do not believe is because you are a natural man who has chosen in your mind “not to believe” you made that decision since you were 6 years old-

        And so remember that God knows you are neither ignorant nor innocent, for you are aware yourself from that age–He will hold your decision against you at His appointed time for you.

        “The natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness to him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned” 1st. Corinthians 2: 14

        The natural man in the above scripture is you

      • February 1, 2015

        Did you know that less than 100 years ago “science” said there was no beginning? They told us matter always existed. Yes, this was actually the “scientific” position. Of course Christians knew better, and there were born again scientists who smiled and waited. Then came the “big bang theory” and shook the conventional wisdom of “science” to its very foundations.

        Do you know that in the USA 44% of Ph.D. scientists now attend church on a regular basis? This does not make them Christians but it does suggest that they believe in God.

        I recommend that you read the book entitled CREATION by Grant Jeffrey, Ph.D. Dr. Jeffrey presents the case for creation as opposed to evolution. Also read THE SIGNITURE OF GOD and THE HANDWRITING OF GOD by the same author.

        Visit our website http://www.livinghopeministries.ca

        Click onto SERMONS and listen to my sermon Many infallible Proofs about the resurrection of Christ!

        Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill, D.D., International Evangelist.

    • February 1, 2015

      J.J. John-Charles:

      You are not alone!

      I rejoice with you because I have found “joy unspeakable and full of glory” in Christ! :-P

      It is the joy of knowing my sins are forgiven and my name is written in heaven. It is fresh every day because when I rise each morning I know THIS MAY BE THE DAY when I will rise to meet HIM, and see HIM face to face.

      NONE of this is my own doings according to Ephesians 2:8,9. It is ALL because of what the Lord Jesus did for me on the cross. ALL I had to do was make it personal by believing Jesus died for me, (Romans 5:6-8) and receive HIM as my personal Savior. (1 John 5:11-12) (Revelation 3:20)

      Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill, International Evangelist.

  24. Evolved
    May 30, 2013

    This man is nothing more than a joke.

    Does he honestly expect the general public to believe that church speaks on other issues besides homosexuality? If they do not speak in public – then why now? hypocrites! If its good to speak in public on this issue then do it for all issues.

    Speak on child molestation and abuse, speak on corruption and victimization, the list goes on and on.

    So sad. Poor man

    • /////////////////
      May 30, 2013

      If you listen to certain programs, then albeit you won’t hear the church speaking on the other ills. Start listening to all the programs especially those with the Evangelists. Stop looking at too many movies and look at the programs on the Television and I am sure that you will have a change of heart. There are too many preachers preaching the word of God and speaking about all the ills you mention. But as everything else, the persons who speak so are only saying those things without facts. The facts are there but those same persons are listenning to the things of the World. And when Pastors or other messengers come on the Internet or on the news they are the same ones who bash and criticise those same ones who are continuously speaking about the ills and about salvation.

      But you know they want the Pastors, Evangelists to be in the places that the world condones – maybe in a Carnival Band, or in a dance where the “Enemy” is glorified in songs and dance. Then what will they say …. Isn’t he a Pastor.

      Man, Woman, Young people, Children tune in to the correct channel not the carnal minded ones. Tune in to the Radio where the messages are preached. Go to one of the Evangelical Churches and listen to the word of the Lord.

      Then and only then, you can attest to the fact.

      • /////////////////
        May 30, 2013

        My comment above is for all the “Dissidents” and “evolved”, all the political ones who do not see objectively and who uses excuses for satisfying their own selfish means. The word of God shall prevail over the word of man. Vengeance is mine saith the Lord and he will Judge. Gossiping, saying things withour proof, Wisdom is what is needed for everyday living and wisdom comes from the Creator. Also there is the Holy Spirit who leads those in Christ into the truth. The Enemy is also a confuser who works upon the mind of us who are opened to him without Christ Jesus. “The Enemy of our soul” is the accuser of the Brethren and he accuse them daily just as he uses many persons to accuse the brethren just as he is doing daily.

        The word will be preached in season and out of season. He who hears let him hear but it is a pity that some do not hear and will look for excuses. The word of God will prevail through the mouth of his servants. We should not raise against the Lord’s annointed …. Numbers 12 is a fine example of what happens to those who questions the Lord about the appointment of his annointed. I would ask you to read that chapter and then you will be humble and pray for the annointed people and Leaders instead of viifying and speaking against such persons. God Blessings to you all.

    • February 1, 2015

      I am not sure who you are referring to.

      Personally I speak AND write on all these subjects. The authority for what I say is the Bible, the inspired Word of God. All sin is sin so it should not be considered strange if a pastor, Bible teacher, or evangelist makes mention of the subjects you have mentioned over time. However, homosexuality is in a class by itself for two reasons. (1) It is a sin against nature according to Romans 1:26,27 and (2) It is an assault on the model or blueprint God gave us for marriage according to the words of Christ Himself in Matthew 19: 4-6.

      Many people do believe what the Word of God says!

      What GOD says about homosexuality is found in Romans 1:26,27, 1 Corinthians 6:9.10, 1 Timothy 1:9,10, and Jude vs. 7.

      People are wise to listen to God. Homosexuals are known to have more mental health issues, higher rates of alcoholism, AIDS, and suicide. They also have a shorter life span.

      Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill, International Evangelist.

  25. dissident
    May 30, 2013

    Why would the church not want to speak where it is heard in public? Who force all u to come out and speak and send info to de press. Marcus all u blind and dumb except on de issues all u selfishly want to talk about to protect all u selfish partisan interests.

    What is all u position on de G.O.N Emmanuel issue that dividing our nation perhaps beyond repair? If one of ur clergy members house attacked like dat u would have not be silent when u see justice not being done. An elderly couple attacked and none of u including de organization for de elderly has spoken about it publicly but when u hear de word buggery u stand up fast. And u couldn’t even do it with solidarity and support of de leaders of de churches who not part of ur group.
    Fame u looking for?

    Speak up and support de people against all de nastiness that happening in our society and stop being selective. Other than that ur church will not represent de broad spectrum of society. in my mind and certainly in others as well u all just bias and looking at all u own interests and dat of de ruling party.

    I notice all u wait until Skerrit talk for all u to show some ‘balls’

  26. hope
    May 30, 2013

    When we truly understand that men’s hearts are the root of all that is wrong with the world; we will pray without ceasing … know that only Jesus Christ can change the hearts of men. :cry:

  27. Dominica_Lover
    May 30, 2013

    Where is GOD? If anyone can prove GOD exists I would give them a million dollars. Physical proof not something that is felt. We feel many things doesn’t mean it is GOD.

    • May 30, 2013

      When you wake up in the morning, tightly squeeze on your nostrils and simultaneously lock both lips together for about 1 hour and you will see Him.

      • Dominica_Lover
        May 30, 2013

        This is called lack of oxygen that leads to poisoning/ddeath. It happens to everyone. I guess you have been and back. I want proof not death everyone will die even you.

    • /////////////////
      May 30, 2013

      Well if there isn’t any God, then you “Dominica_Lover must have created the Heavens and the Earth. Let me tell you that The Mighty Most High is the one who is responsible for you this day. He loves you so much that you must read John 3.16. There is another who is “Enemy to us all and whose agenda is to steal, Kill and Destroy. Without that Great Creator, the Earth and all the heavens would not have been created in harmony. The Enemy has placed doubts in your mind so he will dominate your life until he kills you but it does not have to be so.

      You need to get someone close to you who can help you to find that “Jehovah God” I pray you get one soon. Then with your Bible you can read about the goodness of this God and then you will understand how he operates. He loves us all… He is everything. Go search for him and I am sure he will send someone to lead you in that truth. I pray that God bless you and you will be enriched as you get closer to him in Jesus Name. I am sure we will hear from you again with your testimony about God.

    • Rosie
      May 30, 2013

      It is not for us to prove he exist, it is for you to prove he doesn’t exist. The very fact you have a problem with the Existence of God, it is because you are looking to disapprove but have no evidence. Why don’t you prove he does not exist instead?

      • Lily
        May 30, 2013

        Actually there’s a lot of proof he doesn’t exist …. we’re just all specks on a rock floating through space

      • Dominca_Lover
        May 31, 2013

        It is easy if he exist there would not have been so much pain in this world. The countries who are doing well are not christian nations with the exception of American(technically). Western Europe is not christian as much as they introduced it to us, Japan, China, South Korea, Taiwan, Australia, Thailand and I could go on none of these countries are not christain focused or not not all as we are. The countries that are doing badly or regions, Africa, South America, Central America and the Caribbean. Whys is God not blessing these places like he is blessing those who are singing his praises. As I know Dominicans keep talking development and why we are as poor as we are. Well, I guess god don’t like Black or Latin People or he just don’t like christian nations. It is easy to show who is suffering the most. Then they die with no satisfaction. Ask yourself how God has blessed you and I am sure non Christians feel blessed when things go there way

      • Dominica_Lover
        May 31, 2013

        So you are saying no one has to prove it. It is just a fantasy like the rain God, wind God and sun god we learnt in School that the Caribs believed in.

    • Frank Talker
      May 30, 2013

      You want to see God? If I show you a guy and tell you he is God, how will you prove that he is not God?
      Biblical characters walked with God, ate with him, spoke to him, yet did not accept him as God. The same may very well happen if God stood before you this very moment.

      • Dominica_Lover
        May 31, 2013

        I read many books does not mean I believe what it says. Who wrote the bible and why is no more scriptures being added today? Why is God not interacting with his people?

    • USA
      May 31, 2013

      Can you substantiate that claim with the cash ? cause I can !

    • Lament
      May 31, 2013

      Dear friend may I suggest to you that you need not offer a millions dollars for proof that God (Jehovah Sabaoth – The Almighty One) is real. May I suggest to you this one thing, Search the scriptures for yourself, for in them the Bible says we have eternnal life. May I also remind you that the Bible says “without faith it is impossible to please God” but Faith comes by Hearing and hearing the word of God. Let the word of God dwell in you, then and only then will you understand that there is an Almighty God.

    • Anonymous
      June 1, 2013

      DOminica_lover

      please read Romans 1:20………………….one’s belief or disbelief in something does not change the facts. You disbelief in God is your loss not God’s. While you are alive you have opportunity to know him personally through his son Jesus Christ.

      You get to keep your million dollars…………….God is alive and well and the fact that you have breath is objective evidence that God is real

  28. anty-miridom
    May 30, 2013

    Marcus there are some pastors who will not talk on other ills facing the nation like corruption,dishonesty and lies in government because there friends are, in part, the architect of such practices(dont touch that dial).is it because a number of ur colleagues have those red diplomatic passports nuh…just asking.

    • /////////////////
      May 30, 2013

      Anty-miridom have you ever listened to any message in its entirity by the Evangelist of don’t touch that dial. If you did you would be surprised that all the ills affecting our society is touched by this evangelist. Is it that because you do not seem to like him that you put a stop cock that you do not hear the message. If you remove the cork, you may hear the message substantiated by what the good book says. So please ask the lord to remove the restraining spirit and give you a listenning ear so you will know what the Evangelists speak about. They are everywhere too .. on the TV.. on the Radio. Just listen and then you will perhaps sing a different tune. Just saying!

  29. Maydard
    May 30, 2013

    Marcus lets hold a press conference against corruption in government to nuh garcon

  30. Maydard
    May 30, 2013

    boss all the koshonee government officials and lawyers doing in dominica all you must talk about..the high levels of corruption and dishonesty in government all need to address and take a strong and unified stance against!!!

  31. Papso
    May 30, 2013

    Interesting group of hypocrites.

  32. a church member
    May 30, 2013

    true. this woman is suffering so much in silence. u need to speak out girl

    • Papso
      May 30, 2013

      Yep…wolves in sheep clothing.

      I would say more but here is not the time and place. I am ADOPTING silence.

  33. Rastafari
    May 30, 2013

    Most people miss the point. The issue, I think, is not about people being gay. The issue has and always been – gays wanting to practice buggery in public and that is the issue we’re faced with. Gays take advantage of the situation and cry foul when moral support takes a stand and say “No Way, we won’t condone that stench” So, do you crap in your private domicile, not in public. That’s all the rights you need. WE WON’T STAND FOR IT!

    • not important
      May 30, 2013

      Gays don’t want to have sex in public. They just want the same rights as heterosexual couples and not be punished for being gsy.

      • MWENMEM
        May 31, 2013

        They cant have the rights of Heterosexuals couples if they are not heterosexual couples. Marriage has always been restrictive and liberating at the same time. A man cant marry his daughter or a mother her son or brother etc. But a married couple is liberated to biologically procreate and raise a family. You see homosexuality is an aberration not the norm. The homosexual act is an addiction wanting to be recognised as the norm. We all have various addictions but society would be wrong to adopt them as normal behavior. I am an adulterer. It is wrong. I wrestle with that sin. I depend on God’s mercy. I cant expect society and God to condone it. Absolutely not. I have to work for a change in behavior with God’s help.

      • Justice and Truth
        June 1, 2013

        They already have rights as other human beings. Since you are obviously referring to equal rights as heterosexual couples, that right does not belong to them. They have no right to request it, demand it and expect it. It is out of the question.
        God created Adam and Eve; not Adam and Steve. The human instruments of males are one and the same. So what right they have in this respect? When will people as you comprehend that?

  34. Reality
    May 30, 2013

    Marcus Francis you are so right: The Bible says that the heart of man is evil, therefor only a change of heart through JESUS CHRIST can bring change to society!!

  35. Frenz
    May 30, 2013

    The church may not speak in forums where they are heard in public” Are you serious. Was Jesus silent on issues of morality? According to the story Jesus went into a market place and caused a raucous. Jesus openly chastised the politicians.

    They attempted to burn two senior citizens in their home and nothing from these parasites.

    Since the hypocrites have already condemned me to their hell I took the liberty to apply for the job as chef in the kitchen of hell. I can’t wait to see the hypocrites come to my kitchen ……………. When these folks come for ice to cool them down I will ask tbe boss boys crazy and Tony to pour hot water on them , put rat pooopooo in their food and send them back with a bag of coal ( chebon) to keep te heat up in their bedroom.

    Hey don’t be mad at me I am not the one judging people and yet taking bribes, fornicating and taking money from people under false presence.

    • /////////////////
      May 30, 2013

      Frenz you are pathetic. You gloat on going to hell? Out of your mouth comes life and death. Salvation free is for all of us. God doesnot want any of us to perish. Numbers 12 will give you an insight. Hypocrites as you call us preach the word of God and it is repenting from our wicked ways and preaching the Good News to others. Salavation is for all of us and it is free as Christ has already paid the price but we need to be obedient and have faith and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. We have to change our heart from the wicked and Evil manner therein. How do we do that if we are not willing to hear the word. Another note if we are friends of the world, then we cannot be friends of Christ. And I must say finally that that “Father” does not force his ways upon us but we are free to chooose between him and the “world”. Yes the World. The World is the ways of the “Evil One”. The Good news though is one can reside in the World and become a child of God and the things around him would not frighten him/her as Christ would reside in that person having surrendered to the will of Jehovah and with also the Holy Spirit resident.

      • Cocoa
        May 30, 2013

        Shut up…there is no hell

      • May 30, 2013

        The arrogance of you hypocrites is nauseating. I am pathetic because I dont subscribe to your doctrines.

      • May 31, 2013

        One///////////////// May 30, 2013 “And I must say finally that that “Father” does not force his ways upon us but we are free to choose between him and the “world”. Yes the World. The World is the ways of the “Evil One”

        Nicely said! That is something I have always reminded everyone. Adam and Eve was given the choice to live or die, because of the character of “Free will” from the God who created them

        But why “free will” fro God? It is because He created mankind to put His most outstanding character, which is Love, on display through our physical features.

        By forcing us to surrender to His Will, God would not have the delight which we will give to Him through our character of “free will”–meaning to choose Life in Him–but by faith and our Love for Him

    • SMH
      May 31, 2013

      Apparently Frenz lacks basic understanding. He or she has interpreted this one sentence as saying that the church should NOT speak in forums where they are heard in public. Frenz re-read and I hope by then you will gain some understanding.

  36. USA
    May 30, 2013

    Silence on the issue of immorality in society by the Church in Dominica came, in a very peculiar way, let’s take a look

    • For some it took a job at the land fill
    • For some a duty free vehicle
    • For some a Diplomatic pas port
    • For some $150,000.00 for Church repairs
    • For some an opportunity to pray when cabinet convenes a meeting

    And the list goes.

    • /////////////////
      May 30, 2013

      So doesn’t the man have to work? So doesn’t a preacher have to pray for the Nation? The word of God clearly states that we should pray for our leaders so our nations will be at peace.

      You are all making statements without no truth and facts. The problem is some of us are so bent on gossip that we spread and spread what we hear with no facts whatsoever and we always want to get more “beff” and “Beff” without ever investigating if what we hear is true. The Godly man doesn not have any enemy. We all have the same common enemy. Again many of you are walking with hatred in our heart that if shows by not speaking to persons we hate. So when we see a believer speaking with those we think we hate, we take it personal. The Believer is not here to vex with so and so but to preach the good news of salvation to all and sundry even you too.

    • Well! Well!
      May 31, 2013

      So USA whoever you are every religious leader who is employed with government is because of compromise? What a myopic viewpoint. This is a very foolish standpoint.

  37. K. Anselm
    May 30, 2013

    amen…

  38. sunlight
    May 30, 2013

    Gods word will continue to be heard and preached

  39. possie long time
    May 30, 2013

    This statement actually goes against the topic of the article “The church may not speak in forums where they are heard in the public but the church is not silent on moral issues.”…Why can’t the various religion unite and march the streets in order for their voices to be heard..not everyone goes to church so the message won’t be heard..we need to put stickers on our cars, bring back the bible in both private n public school…preaching it in church just isnt enough

    • May 30, 2013

      I’m with you on that we the people have to first make changes to how we conduct ourselves and by that we should be showing guidences to our children especially during the times we are living in we need to go back to the reading of the bible We need our preachers to come out and speak about the issus the plague us and stop hiding Jesus spoke publiclly so as a man of God you should speak openly dont be embarassed for their are those who will say no dont give in chruches are empty because their is nothing to hold us captive we are hungry for the word of the almighty God so start doing the work .

  40. Sunshine
    May 30, 2013

    God is returning soon for his people.
    This is a curel world and only those planted in Jesus Christ will survive it.

  41. Joe
    May 30, 2013

    Unless we have been living under a stone, these Christian churches have NEVER been silent on moral issues. Every one of them have been for years blasting immorality. I wonder who is behind these news stories. Laughable! Oh I see, maybe DAEC doesn’t support their agenda, maybe?. hmm

  42. Dominican by birth
    May 30, 2013

    Most churches are really silent with the exception of one or two politics, moral decay, status is first before our good lord they so pretend to be serving but as a wise man once said “Martin Luther King” SILENCE IS BETRAYAL.

  43. Curious
    May 30, 2013

    “The only way you can have a changed heart is through Jesus Christ.” ?
    What does that statement really mean?
    So what of the ‘Good’ Christian whose ‘heart changed’ to a homosexual lifestyle . . did Jesus Christ cause that change ?
    I personally find homosexuality disgusting, but as to deciding that what is unacceptable to me must be universally Immoral . . I don’t do that.
    That attitude would make me a religious person, I’m Not.
    http://www.humantruth.info/souls.html

    • May 30, 2013

      That is the whole point, God has already decided what is acceptable that is why it is necessary to be transformed by the renewing of your mind to KNOW the PERFECT and ACCEPTABLE will of God. Only an encounter with the Lord Jesus Christ will change our hearts toward God. There is no such thing as a “Good Christian homosexual”. It is no different than saying a “good Christian adulterer”, or a good christian fornicator or a good christian murderer. I pray you will come to know the Lord Jesus Christ.

      • /////////////////
        May 30, 2013

        Thanks Tasi Bat YHWH – well said. No compromising of the word of God.

    • /////////////////
      May 30, 2013

      A changed heart is aligned to Christ and cannot be aligned to sin – . Christ came to the World in the form of human so he could die for us. He was a sinless man. The Enemy is raging so he uses our minds to confuse us and he sows the seed of sinful nature into us. So a good Christian heart cannot change to Homosexual through Christ but by the Evil One whose job is to steal, kill and destroy. But Christ died for us that we may have life and have it abundantly. Universally immoral – The world does things which are not in conformity with the word of God. The Earth and the fullness belongs to the Lord. The Lord is Supreme so his commandments are supreme and one should obey. It is either God or Satan.

      Romans 12.2 says this 2 “And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God”

      • Curious
        May 30, 2013

        :lol: real funny!!
        I suppose you read what you wrote before pressing ‘send’ .
        So the ‘Enemy’ the ‘Evil One” can also cause a “Changed Heart” according to you. . . . .
        OK

  44. friend gwada
    May 30, 2013

    so why not have a press conference on the burning of Immanuel house,and the like. stop being bias

    • Anonymous
      May 30, 2013

      Is the church a court or police? WHat emnauel house have to dio with them? Is emanuel house alone that firebomb, what about the policeman? what about all the crimes going on in the country? Emanuel will never get any good result because of people like you who turned it into a political fiasco for your own selfish reasons. Emauel will get justice when the policeman get justice plain and simple :mrgreen:

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