Christian group calls for resisting pro-sodomy motion at Commonwealth meeting next week

Stephen Green of Christian Voice has launched an anti sodomy campaign across Africa and the Caribbean

A British Christian pressure group says African, Caribbean and Asian nations must oppose a motion to legalise homosexual acts at the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Australia at the end of next week.

The motion, tabled by Australian delegate Michael Kirby, will be supported by the official United Kingdom delegation.

Stephen Green, National Director of Christian Voice, said today:

‘Across the West, homosexual rights is now mainstream in every political party and is promoted by the whole public sector.  The Church is fighting a rear-guard action in nations like Australia and the UK, and few are found who will support those countries in the world where homosexual acts are rightly against the law.

‘Sex tourism is already a problem in African, Asian and Caribbean nations. Legalising sodomy and other obscene homosexual practices would make matters even worse.  Young people across the world deserve to be protected from the moral and physical dangers of homosexual activity.

‘The last thing the Caribbean needs is the neo-colonialist imposition of homosexuality from countries like Britain whose society is described as ‘broken’ even by our own Prime Minister.  And yet David Cameron’s obsession with homosexuality even extends to promoting the abomination of ‘gay marriage’ and using foreign aid to export Western depravity.

“I also call on the churches of the Caribbean to come together and pray for their delegations to the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting and for righteousness to flow as a river in the Caribbean to the glory of God.”

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29 Comments

  1. April 17, 2013

    It should not seem strange when Christians take a stand against homosexuality. We are mandated to be the salt of the earth and the light of the world dispelling darkness and preventing corruption. Leaders in our churches are called to be the face and voice of the Kingdom of God on earth. The spiritual darkness and gross immorality that is engulfing the nations in these last days does not take us by surprise. It was prophesied by the Lord Jesus and His apostles and is recorded in our New Testament. The practice and acceptance of all manner of sexual sin and vice as normal is a sign of the end of the age. Our elected polititians are putting the laws of God aside and bringing in their own laws that decriminalize sodomy and legalize same sex marriage. They are calling good evil and evil good to win votes. This is what the Bible says will happen before Christ returns. But thank God there are still some places holding out against this onslaught from the gates of hell. Their elected leaders are refusing to be bullied by the nations that pretend to have their welfare at heart but in reality want to crush them by using psychological warfare and intimination. To the people who are still standing for righteousness let me say this. You are not lagging behind the times because you follow the Word of God. You are not old fashioned. You are not out of date. Your Christian standards and traditional values are your most precious asset. Fight for them and they will support you long after those have bullied you have gone over the cliff! Visit my website http://www.livinghopeministries.ca and click onto ARTICLES. Read my article THINGS THAT CANNOT BE SHAKEN. Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. Pentecostal Evangelist.

  2. October 21, 2011

    Not when he created Adam and Eve, and not John and Jason, also Joan and Susan this is sick

  3. .
    October 21, 2011

    I think that Humanist is gay and is also pushing his agenda.
    Come out of the closet if you think its right instead of trying to get people to turn away from the bible.

    • Humanist
      October 21, 2011

      I see. So when I say explicitly that I am heterosexual, I simply cannot be telling the truth, eh? If I support women’s rights, I must be a woman; if I support men’s rights, I must be a man; if I support aid going to Africa, I must be African; if I wear jeans, I must be a cowboy/cowgirl.

      Your logic–or lack thereof–fails. Try again.

      • August 21, 2013

        Humanist: I had a friend who was a health care professional. He was married and had two little boys. Then he started drinking. He left his family
        and began dating men. He told me he was living with a male bank manager.

        Last time I was talking to him he sounded much like you. Same arguments in favor of homosexuality. Same insulting remarks about Christianity.

        But my friend died with AIDS. His death certificate read that he died by a self inflicted gunshot wound.

        The Bible says “The way of the transgressors is hard.”

        Humanist, please turn yourself around.

        Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. Pentecostal Evangelist.

  4. Aye Dominique
    October 21, 2011

    I do not know about all this whaling and whaling, as much as we claim to respect everyone, every Dominican has some sort of christian foundation, our mama at some point brought us to church. Some of you sound like these little gay men down town Manhattan who doesn’t know what a bible looks like but keep repeating what everyone else is saying to protect their life style.

    We know what is wrong and right in Dominica, and my friends, this gay thing is a serious problem. You on a train and 40% of the people in the same cab with you are gay. This can be translated to the real world, so you have an idea as to why politicans tend not to be too hard on gay. Obama profess to be a christian but this is one thing I disagree with him on, but again, the political gain to them is all that matters.

    Gay people are many, and their votes do count, so don’t be surprise if Dominica moves in that direction pretty soon.

    This thing is a real head ache, I know that alot of the politicians know that this thing will have serious disasterous effect, but they just can’t help themselves, they need the vote.

    People we need to pray, pray, pray, because its serious times ahead.

    • Humanist
      October 21, 2011

      Dominica has an Amerindian foundation. Then, it was christianized. In the future, it may change–hopefully into a secular, educated society in which people do not talk about that “gay thing” without so much as explaining what the problem with that “thing” is. Foundations are not permanent. The ground beneath our feet–another foundation of sorts–changes every day, though we tend not to notice it immediately, if we ever do.

      Your point about politicians, though, is excellent and true, since being a politician means you will most likely do what gets you votes, not what you necessarily believe in. At the same time, it is wrong to assume that politicians are all drifting vote-seekers who will do anything to stay in or get into power, and Obama is a good example. He does “struggle” with the idea of gay marriage, but Obama himself is not homophobic, and it is under his administration that gays have in fact received a number of gains, the most notable perhaps being the ability to get married in New York. Did the world end? Of course not.

      As for Obama being Christian–well, he says he is, but I think he’s either one of those ultra-loose Christians–the good kind of Christian–or an agnostic/atheist who calls himself a Christian to get votes, since America is still too biased to vote in an agnostic/atheist as President–much less medieval Dominica.

      There have never been “disastrous effect[s]” from homosexuality and in all probability never will be. If you choose to learn more rather than being too afraid of the colonists’ teachings to even question them–happy slavery–then you will realize eventually that all these “laws” from the bible are largely nonsense.

      • August 21, 2013

        No disastrous effects from homosexuality? I guess it depends on how you define the word disastrous.

        I could talk about STD including AIDS.

        Or I could tell you about the unpleasant results suffered by some men from the practice of anal sex. But I wouldn’t subject the readers of DNO to
        anything that graphic.

        I could tell you about heart broken wives whose husbands left them to live with men.

        Or I could talk about shattered husbands whose wives ran off with lesbian lovers.

        I could tell you about children devastated because either their father or their mother “came out” and left with a same sex partner. I personally know of a little girl who asked her father, “Daddy, doesn’t mommy love us any more?”

        (If homosexuals are born that way isn’t it strange that so many of these people didn’t know they were gay until after they were married and had children?)

        I could talk about the fact that homosexuals have more mental health issues, a higher suicide rate, and a shorter life span, than strait people. Yes, I guess it depends on how you define the word disastrous. Anyway, it sure produces some nasty results.

        Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. Pentecostal Evangelist.

    • October 21, 2011

      With skerrit nothing is impossible

  5. Pete
    October 21, 2011

    Ok, here’s the deal, U cannot have all or nothing. Most of us agree gay bulling a man is wrong. But leave the lesbians alone, they enjoy the same that men enjoy, the p*ss*. There’s lots of women to go around so I’m not bothered, I jus doe like the hard core ones getting married, they like to show off, women non the less. But for the most part they are they like de cat.

  6. true dominican
    October 20, 2011

    Well said tiny. I am tired of telling people that we cannot hate the sinner instead what we should actually hate is the sin it self.How can you help a situation if you already have a mental block towards the person in the first place. Some Dominicans are so dumb. We are killing this country by the seconds. May God hhelp us all. I myself let me go and pray for my sins eh.

  7. xxx
    October 20, 2011

    The Bible says that we restle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities against powers and against the rulers of darkness. Homosexuality is a sin just like any other sin. We need to pray that these high powers will be brought down. Couples living together withoug being married is also a sin. God created sex for marriage. So on a whole people need to repent because the wages of sin, (any sin) is death. God loves the homosexual just like he loves every other person.

    Any law to impose homosexuality needs to be voted against.

  8. Rasben
    October 20, 2011

    People – please do not act on the beliefs of these Europeans. They do not have our best interest at hand. Think independently. Humanist, I could not have said it better.

  9. justice to be served
    October 20, 2011

    Humanist well said, these so called Christians who main am is to keep black people backward. They dont tell us that the oly reason they introduce their relgion to us was to make slaves of us. when they decided that tying us down and beating us to death dd not make good financial sense, they decided that the next form of slavery was to be religious, our minds. They spent the last 100yrs teaching us to worship them in the name of Jesus. They misinterpreted the bible to us, to force us to become obedient slaves.
    Sodom have nothing to do with homosexuality.
    But this false theology is deep seated in some christian groups, especially the far right, who are nothing but the KKK in new clothes, remember the cross and the KKK.
    Caribbean leaders need to think for themselves.Who raped our women, was it homosexuals.

  10. tiny
    October 20, 2011

    to all the gay persons……….we love you but homosexuality is wrong the devil is in control of this world….he hates you he wants you he is deceiving you….you are created by God to do his will……his time is short so he is trying to get as much as he can to accompany him….you are not an intelligent ape…where is the missing link…i have never seen an ape man or a or a cowliziard…where is the fossils of the intermediary species…there is none…but there is lots of evidence of the nephilims…giants who walked the earth before Noah’s flood….bones which show giants as tall as 30 feet…they were the of-springs of the fallen angels and mankind….why is this evidence not made popular by anthropologist,discovery channel etc…because the devil is in control…stop letting him deceive you

    • tiny
      October 20, 2011

      in this modern day certain structures still cant be explained…there is no equipment which is able to lift such huge/heavy stones to build them…all the engineers on this planet can’t explain how STONE HENGE and other structures around the world were put together…it is impossible to built such structure even with today’s modern equipment……the nephilims giants builT them …there is a God …please live according to his word

    • Humanist
      October 20, 2011

      The evidence IS there for evolution (we are all genetically linked; chimpanzees are almost indistinguishable from us genetically; there ARE transitional forms [see below], though fossils are so hard to preserve that it is a wonder we can find any, let alone as many as we have; the Earth and universe are billions of years older and fathomlessly bigger than most Creationists want to admit, etc.). I suggest you watch this special from NOVA, for instance, which examines a very prominent court debate from a few years ago between teachers who want to teach evolution and a group who tried to get science teachers to teach Creationism in schools. It’s a longish but absolutely fantastic look at this debate.

      http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=intelligent+design+on+trial&aq=0&oq=intelligent+design+

      For more information, find copies of Richard Dawkins’ The Selfish Gene or the The Greatest Show on Earth. Bill Bryson’s A Short History of Nearly Everything is also an excellent book.

      And don’t you dare tell me you refuse to watch or read them (if you can find copies; if not, look up Dawkins’ videos on Youtube). You cannot argue without properly understanding the other side.

      As for Noah: really? You really think a boat contained every animal in existence on it? Dinosaurs too? Come on.

    • Humanist
      October 20, 2011

      I should also add that the whole thing about “nephilim” and “giants” is the result of hoaxes, PhotoShop, or mistakes. For instance:

      http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/supernaturalwonders/ss/giants_in_greece_6.htm

      You want to believe in these things, tiny, and you think conspiracy theories are fun–who doesn’t–but at the end of the day, a hoax is a hoax, and most of what you’re saying is either the result of human deception (as with the “giant” skeletons) or plain and simple mistakes.

    • October 21, 2011

      @Tiny

      That is so well spoken. I know that you know what you are saying. I wanted to say more, but God told me “what you have said is enough” keep it up my lady, I just have the feeling that is who you are.

      • Humanist
        October 21, 2011

        So now Lizavier hears voices in her head, and/or talks directly to god, and hears someone talk back, much like how President Bush “heard” god tell him to go to war in Iraq.

        And you think I’M the crazy one….

  11. Humanist
    October 20, 2011

    These retards are really embarrassing. Neo-colonialist? Wow. Way to forget that it was colonialism that introduced the bible–and, therefore, bible-based homophobia–into the Caribbean! But cultural amnesia is nothing new. The Tea Party in the USA is one big amnesiac moron parade at the moment, happily believing America’s Consitution is based on Judaeo-Christian values–which it is manifestly not, as any historian of the Founding Fathers will understand. Nonetheless, they perpetuate their ignorant historical revisions, and these fools do the same, never stopping once to think that they themselves are introducing more colonial oppression onto us. Oh, one person can’t tell us what to do, but YOU can, and therefore it’s no longer colonialism? Give me a damn break. Naturally, most people will disagree with me without beginning to understand what I wrote, but if you stop to analyze what’s going on, you’ll see that this whole proposal by Green and his moron groups is utterly ridiculous.

    If one person could legitimately tell me why such a motion should opposed without referring to a colonial artifact–the bible–I would be most pleased. But I have yet to see it and doubt I ever will.

    And yet, most people will post Yes, yes, please don’t be swayed by those evil white colonists–never stopping to realize the irony therein.

    • HMMMMMMMM
      October 20, 2011

      @ humanist…I don’t even think that you know what you are writing about. Read your own words before you send your comments. It really does not make sensible reading.

      By the way I am in total agreement with the group against this legalization of homosexual behavior in Dominica. For those who are already in this activity keep it under raps and refrain from any public display of your activities. We’re not interested!!! Whilst some of our laws need upgrading…this one should remain illegal to the core. The majority not for it but will not abuse those in it if they don’t flaunt it in our faces…that’s total disrespect to the rest of us God faring people. We don’t disturb you please do not disturb us. And I would like to think that we have right thinking government system that this law will not even be considered not at the tax payer expense. and yes though they may be paying taxes also is not an excuse to infringe on my peaceful leaving in this fast growing corrupt little island.

      • Humanist
        October 20, 2011

        This is why Dominicans are so often morons. A poster who says I do not know what I am posting about gets praise (if thumbs up are an indication of that), though this poster gives not only no indication of why he/she has claimed I do not know what I am talking about, but no rebuttal to my points. All the poster says, really, is that the colonists told me the bible is the answer, therefore I believe it, so to hell with anyone who tries to tell me otherwise.

        You probably don’t even have a clue what I wrote, but because you think it contradicts your happy little biblical image of life, you accuse me of being clueless. Typical ignorance. Refute something concrete in my post, or just don’t say anything.

    • C/bean Genius
      October 20, 2011

      Humanist..

      We usually agree on many issues, but i will say i am in total opposition of anything homosexual. I do think the carribean should oppose it.
      I am not religious, as a matter of fact i dont believe in heaven or hell. But i do believe that the natural laws of the universe is real. And as you know with every species main purpose being reproduction and survival of that particular specy, i totally oppose homosexuality on that grounds.
      Most people dont know the only purpose they really have on the earth is to reproduce, thus allowing the continuation of life through the human specy.

      • Humanist
        October 20, 2011

        Well, that’s interesting. My view is predicated on the idea that homosexuality is not a choice (you can “choose” to engage in whatever sexual activity you want, but you cannot “choose” what you are attracted to). There are a variety of studies, a number of which suggest a genetic link to homosexuality, that support this, as well as the simple fact that if you have children, one of whom ends up gay, you will often notice it early on, even if you attempt to raise both children the same. Moreover, though I am heterosexual myself, I knew from young that I was attracted to the opposite sex; I never “chose” to like anyone, and I certainly was not told to; in fact, I was in opposition to mose of my classmates at the time, who, being children, thought the opposite sex was “icky” or “nasty.” But I admit that there is no hard proof of this; it’s just that the evidence is definitely weighted heavily towards sexual orientation being inescapable.

        If homosexuality was purely a choice, I would support it less, given that–for males, anyway–it involves additional sexual risk. But at the same time, if intercourse is between consenting adults who are aware of the risks of their actions, I am willing to let people live their lives. I would be more divided on the idea of gay mariage if I did not think “gay” was a real identity, like “straight”; but,because I am almost entirely convinced of this, I support gay marriage as much as I can.

        Nonetheless, I am glad to see your post, since it is good to see a more philosophical/scientific discussion of this issue, rather than people just quoting the bible al the time. I’d be interested to know if you have any other arguments against it.

      • STEUPS!
        October 20, 2011

        Humanist I will just say it to this “C/bean Genius” – WHOEVER YOU R CHANGE YOUR NAME!

        If you call yourself a genius then you should KNOW that scientists use the word genius to group and identify those who are individually special in knowledge and improved greatness. So CHANGE YOUR NAME.

        How you going to refer to yourself as a what? A GENIUS? i believe you’re a Geny-8ss! You know why? This is why! – You claim to not believe in heaven nor hell but you claim to believe that the NATURAL LAWS of the universe is real. hmm Hence the fact that spiritual views only brings forth the belief that heaven and earth is real, however science believes otherwise that we created else what. NOW to conclude this idiotic comment of yours. If you SO BELIEVE THAT THE NATURAL LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE IS REAL then I would think you’d believe in Science and Thus, in addition, you would SWORE TO BELIEVE that evolution and change in DNA is real as well. SO IF YOU ARE AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY, YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE NATURAL LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE IS REAL. YOU SIMPLY BELIEVE IN NOTHING BUT YOUR “in-the-box closed minded illusion of life” … CORRECT ME IF I’m WRONG!

        In such a society that we live in from the beginning of time, I for one do not believe that humans would CHOOSE to be homosexuals knowing that they are in danger if they do so by society. Blacks didn’t CHOOSE their color and they were endangered by and through colonialism. Chinese didn’t choose to speak such a language, especially when the Colonial powers wanted everyone to learn english and understand the “christian” life.

        There is a balance in this life and there is a BALANCE to everything that is in life. Things happen for a reason and we are no where near to understand the meaning. We can simply say WHY?? Now if man’s purpose was just to be on earth to procreate and create human life so that other life beings can continue the earth why don’t we all just give up the education system, give up work, give up everything, and go back the garden of eden – Grow food and rare animals and just HAVE SEX!!! LEFT, RIGHT and CENTER!

        GOD Created man in his own likeness and image and that PHRASE is still being used by you people and every single one of us. IF HE DID, I would believe he created man how he chooses and thus, He wants us to learn to love each other for who we are and not how we live. If your son or daughter was born BLUE? what would you say? that God didn’t create your child? This to me is all a TEST… a test to see how faithful we can remain to the creator, how will treat each other? will we turn the other cheek? will be love our neighbors as our selves? All of this is a Test. Sodom and Gomorrah; if it was real and not a man made story, I would not believe it burned down because of GAYS, it burned down because of nastiness. You can Be gay and not be nasty such as partaking in Prostitution and drugs. YOU PEOPLE THAT PREACHING BIBLE AND ALL NEED TO THINK CLEARLY and STOP LETTING OTHERS THINK FOR YOU. Its a shame to see that some people say don’t flaunt it in their face. Don’t flaunt what in your face? and you can flaunt your straightness in their face? Legalizing this thing is only protecting these people from harm and beat downs! and you people call your selves Christians. HA! go back and understand and look in your hearts and see what a REAL TRUE CHRISTIAN IS! I ending there!!

      • nyo
        October 20, 2011

        humanist while i agree with some of your first diductions!! do you know what the cultural responce to homosexuality was in the mother land befor colonialism? death. therefor is not this libarated concept of modern day homosesual acceptance not in itself an accepted colonial idea? or is basic morality only within the nature of of colonialists. while i think its not my place to judge individuals based on there sexual prefernces how ever as a man the dud tht tries to make a pass at me is doing so at his own risk. or are you impying tht homosexuality is actual part of human evolution?

      • C/bean Genius
        October 21, 2011

        @Steups..

        You are contradicting yourself while trying to point out that it did the same. I didnt contradict myself, there are in some cases where nature has made mistakes in the reproductive process and we do have deformity. But pushing homosexuality as a form of lifestyle is a against natural laws. and nothing you say cant change that.

        In response to you trying to prove there is more to life than reproduction and the continuation of ones specy. The education system prepares you to play a role in the human created system that we see today. Dont you see what all the work, education and inventions doing? Its destroying the earth ability to sustain life: pollution of the air, deforestation, poisoning of earths waters, destruction of fertile lands. What you think will eventually happen?

        The natural laws of the universe have nothing to do with proving heaven or hell. If you dont understand what those laws are then try find out or shut up.

        By the way the bible said god created man in his own likeness and it also condemns homosexuality. So i would create you as a homosexual in my own image and still condemn you, hmmm. Get your arguments right, maybe you was thinking emotionally and not with your brain.

        Dont let my moniker bother you.. You proved that i should keep it

  12. Brother
    October 20, 2011

    Amen my padna.

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