Homosexuality laws in Dominica impractical – Sir Brian Alleyne

Alleyne

Former Attorney General and former Chief Justice of the Eastern Caribbean Supreme Court has lent his voice to the raging debate of homosexuality and laws pertaining to it in Dominica.

Speaking on the television program ‘Parbel Talk’ hosted by Parry Bellot on July 25, Alleyne said homosexual acts in the law books are criminal acts and are subject to imprisonment but they are not practical. “It is actually impractical because you cannot actually enter into someone’s house to catch them in the act,” he pointed out.

Alleyne continued, “I think it is totally wrong. What a person does in the privacy of his home with another person is his business, he is answerable to the Lord and not to any one else.”

He said the fundamental issue is whether homosexuality is a crime. “Is it a crime?  Should a person be sent to prison for what he does in his bedroom with the consent of the other party?”

Alleyne said he thinks it is wrong to imprison people for their sexual practices in private between consenting adults and suggested that the Prime Minister show ‘moral leadership’ and act to correct it.

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125 Comments

  1. Jean
    October 18, 2012

    Dominicans, we have more detrimental problems to focus on than what grown people are doing in the bedroom. We need to focus on the child predator laws, the economy, infrastructure, technological advancement, etc…The single mother population is also through the roof but most of all we need to raise education standards and cultural awareness (teach Creole in school as well as English).
    If we are going to use the bible as our law book then the 90% plus of citizens who fornicate should also get ten years and so should the adulterers.

  2. Anonymous
    March 21, 2012

    Oh god we need your help for we are all sinners.

  3. March 13, 2012

    my freinds ya’ll can say and think how ya’ll want to think but man lying down with man is sin according to the holy Bible. If ya’ll think or believe that DUST to DUST can fight the Law giver then ya’ll are Foolish.

  4. Revolutionary
    January 19, 2012

    So if i stay at my home with my partners and smoke an ounce of weed between consenting adults then it is wrong for this to be an offence according to the chief justice, so the government should also consider legalizing smoking marijuana between adults (in private)

  5. Gypsy
    November 25, 2011

    For your info Yes abortion is against the law in Dominica.{But you or an under aged child can get one without your parents consent in Roseau for 600.00 E.C. at Dr. Ferrara’s office no questions asked. Or you could do it the traditional Carib way with natural toxic plants that grow wild in Dominica. HHMM I guess that’s one of those laws the so called Christians aren’t very upset about being broken.

  6. Gypsy
    November 25, 2011

    Follow what laws you please in DA and keep your backside sitting on the ground under a Mango tree for your entire life! Developed countries are over burdened with your criminals. While we live it up abroad free of your homophobic,murdering,rapeing,Damn ass men! Send all your battymen abroad we will do our best to love and respect them.I for one think they should all have amnesty to come to any country they please to get away from the torment they have in DA.Do you thinks it’s ok for a foreiner to treat you as inferior? Is your judgement of gays not the same discrimination? P.S. I am a female and I do adore my man! All you so called GOD fearing people take the board out of your eye before you concern yourself with the speck in your brothers eye.

  7. shotta
    October 19, 2011

    I am a dominican living abroad. i am not gay but it always bugs me to know why. why are people gay, how can u look at another man and be with him as a woman, what goes through their mind? is admiring someone qualities and achievements gay? what makes u gay?i look at life from that angle. WHY. why do people do the things they do. does that makes me gay because i want to know these things?

  8. September 15, 2011

    GOD never create Adam and Steve(He created Adam and EVE)sodom and gomora life style.God hate sin.

    • Boogie
      November 1, 2011

      God also said, if anyone of u who is not a sinner may throw the first stone. Who are us to judge anyone?

      • Dominica I love
        November 4, 2011

        someone openly claiming that they a has no room for judgement. It is already confirmed by that person. In Dominica we respect every body’s right as to how they should live their lives but please don’t push it down our throuts and say and make us say it is ok and give them the same rights like a man and a woman who is married in a home. what is the world comming to????? live your lives gay people fine, but don’t rub it in our faces and our children faces. Before we would say one is gay they were born like that it is humones etc. now people choose to be gay. SHAME let not add that curse in Dominica we have enough to deal with already.

  9. .
    September 13, 2011

    Much respect Alleyne!
    Finally someone with a good, sensible, realistic approach.

  10. August 31, 2011

    There are many opinions, incorrect spelling ect..However, it is a persons right to express his or her thoughts. Therefore,Here are my thoughts. The law being talked about seemed to be one used as a derternt. personally, I belive homosexuality is not a right, it is a behavior, one that should be discouraged and obliterated. The truth is, it is totally immoral and promotes a decadent behavior. God Abhores such behavior to the point of bringing destruction upon cities.

    • Boogie
      November 1, 2011

      In reply to your comment. I believe that God also abhores child molesters, a man who does not honor his wife and vice-versa, a lying tongue and an evrlasting list of things that I could list here. But only HE who created us, can JUDGE us. NO human kind is in any position to judge and to create laws unless they are a threat to society and to the government. If two homosexual adults consent in mutual sex, that’s they’re choice. just like a man or a woman who has an affair with someone besides their spouse. We will all be judge one day even for acting as GOD.

  11. ZURU
    August 22, 2011

    When they say homosexual they do mean both men and women to me all i’m hearing about is two men , so what i’m trying to understand is , that Dominicans have no problem with two women being together but two men is like the apocalypse :?: hmmmmmm inter-es-ting

  12. PIV
    August 1, 2011

    They just start to ‘come-out’ of the woodworks in Dominica.

    • Boogie
      November 1, 2011

      That’s because they have always been there as slaves to man laws. And they are fed up!

  13. appalled
    July 28, 2011

    wow… had no idea Dominican law was so… archaic. sad really

  14. Law and order
    July 28, 2011

    God the Fther , God the Son and God the HOly Ghost. Two men and a boy child. Sounds like a good homosexual couple or family to me. So all u against God. Way papa.all in God name.

  15. MASSACRE
    July 28, 2011

    IF MEN GO WITH MEN , WHO THEN WILL PROCREATE THE EARTH???

    • My2Sense
      July 28, 2011

      So are you implying that homosexuality is contagious?

      If one man goes with another man, does that mean that all mean will eventually go with other men?

      That is a ridiculous claim.

      If you’re NOT implying contagiousness, then why can’t the heterosexual men procreate to populate the earth??

      • Humanist
        July 28, 2011

        Don’t ask–it’s just a ridiculous, unthinking claim.

        At any rate, the world’s population doesn’t exactly need to be expanded….

    • Humanist
      July 28, 2011

      So, according to your “logic,” repealing a homosexuality law in Dominica therefore turns all male humans gay by some kind of magic and heterosexual procreation will become impossible.

      Seriously?

    • Boogie
      November 1, 2011

      THE EARTH IS WELL OVER PRO-CREATED IF YOU ASK ME. AND THEN U HAVE THOSE PEOPLE WHO ABORT. OH, BY THE WAY, GOD HATES THOSE PEOPLE TOO. I WONDER IF THEY HAVE ANTI ABORTION LAWS IN DOMINICA AS WELL. LET ME DO SOME RESEARCH :)

  16. xing ling
    July 28, 2011

    yeah. Lets deny homos food, water, access to health, work. We will welcome mass murderer, theives corrupt among us before we welcome a homosexual. Wipe them out of creation

  17. REASONING
    July 28, 2011

    Man was put on earth by the GOED of creation to govern according to his word where by he has instructed,for any government to make it legal means that government is not fit to rule GOD’s land.What one decides to do with his or her life is left to that person whether it’s taking drugs,drinking alcohol or otherwise.But for a ruler who is supposed to be representing GOD on earth to declare rights to what GOD has condemned and called abominable is totally wrong and would be bringing damnation on the land.

    • Humanist
      July 28, 2011

      Prove it, Reasoning. (Without quoting any verses, since those are not really “proof.” Give facts and real evidence. Use your username, reasoning.)

  18. Wenner
    July 28, 2011

    Did somebody just informed Brian Alleyne that Mamo passed away. Too me this man couldn’t open his mouth when the Iron Lady was around. You think Brian could tell Mamo so some moral leadership to ban laws that would enabled man to “grease” each other in their comfort of their home.

    Brian why are you talking so much these days….Wha go????

  19. Humanist
    July 28, 2011

    As much as some people claim they don’t want to hear about this topic, it seems to always be these articles that get the most comments on DNO!

    Anyway, I agree with Alleyne as far as the legal side of it goes. The “answerable to the Lord” bit is his religious opinion, but I’m glad he did not try to impose it on anyone, which is significantly more civilized an action than can be said for most, unfortunately.

    I write long things on these topics and they vanish under the biblical flood of people writing the same basic comment over and over, so I will be brief(er).

    The primary reason most people here and indeed across the globe have any problem with homosexuality is due to religious teachings. Remove the religious passages and some people may still not like the act, but you can be sure that there will not as much fury as you see in these comments. Such fury would suggest that these people know for certain that their own religious views are correct. But they do not. They cannot. Belief is just something someone chooses to do; it is the opposite of evidence and facts. A scientist does not “believe” in facts, but knows facts. Facts and belief are the opposite.

    And since there is no evidence for any one religion, why act arrogantly as if you KNOW your own views are correct? Do not answer this by quoting biblical verses–that is not an answer. Do not say you “know it” in your heart–that is not an answer. Give evidence.

    Furthermore, since other large religions claim damnation for unbelievers, the mere fact that you could be wrong means you will be damned by another religion if you are wrong! What makes your belief system so undeniably right? Because of this, and primarily because of the lack of evidence supporting any religion, this kind of arrogant behavior is absurd. We should allow for the fact that we do not know everything. If two consenting adults want to love each other, who are you to say it is wrong? What proof do you really have? It occurs in nature often, so it is not unnatural. If you personally dislike it, that is fine–but do not then turn around and try to attack or kill people who have been born like that. I don’t like the idea of the act myself, but I accept gay people as human beings, and what they do in the bedroom has no effect on me whatsoever. Why should it be different for someone else, really?

    • July 29, 2011

      @Humanist

      Evidence is in your conscience, and concience is like a nerve–it is either dead or alive.

      Without consceince you are existing with a carnal mind–dead nerves–in a death condition; the dead does not know the difference–unless science has told you otherwise.

      When your nerves are dead in a certain part of your body, you have no feeling as to what is taking place in that part of your body; for sure that part of your body is in the mode of distruction–without the guidance of it nerves cells.

      Compare the above truth with your mind in its carnal state–without the guidance of conscience.

      A friend of mine suffered from dead nerves in his foot. He woke up one afternoon, to find blood all over his floor at home. He looked at his foot just to find out that he had lost 3 of his toes, while he slept, to a dog that belonged to a friend of his. Because of diabetes he lost that foot, through amputation.

      Conscience nurtures Life, and Life function by spiritual instincts, causing your mind to process and produce the Ways of God–the attitude and conducts of Love, because God is Love, Life in human beings. Love is Spirit not of flesh and blood–like human affection or emotions

      The physical body is almost, always, like a groaning tent–unless you do not know of the afflictions of sickness and desease, filth ideas or thoughts of the mind, lust, and the destructive passions that plague the physical body to its demise.

      You do not need the Bible for that information either. Just visit the hospitals, the prison cells, the welfare office, the ghetto, the homeless, and so on. The evidence is all around you

      That tent houses your soul in its death condition, but it can become the Temple of God, when you exist with conscience, guiding your mind, sanctifying your heart, awakening your dead soul, to exist with Life–the ways of Love and the things of Day.

      Homosexuality and its conduct–just like every other fleshly desires, wants, or gratification– is part of the ways of death, the things of night, the existence of darkness–its functions has nothing to do with Life–the Light of your sou.

      I once saw on television how the desire for food turned a normal weight teenager into a 900 pounds human animal. Glutony is a sin; sin brings death; who could deny that truth in that man.

      The struggle of homosexuality–just like every other fleshly desires–is part of the spiritual warfare that comes against Life, which is of Truth, to fight against freedom–the ecstasy of peace and joy, which allows mankind to exist with tranqility, harmony, comfort, warmth–knowing the existence of Day, regardless of the darkness of night around him.

      Again, you do not need the Bible, you do not need to believe in God. Unless you are an individual from outer space; look around you, in your own existence; you will see that this has nothing to do with religion.

      In the first place Life is not about religion–religion is of the wisdom and philosophy of man, who depends on his creator for the energy of Life.

      You decide for yourself, what is done with weeds and what is done with wheat. Is there a difference between the goat and the sheep. Would you choose the existence of Day or the existence of Night–Light or Darkness. Can you deny the existence of those mentioned, that they are different?

      But all of the above are metaphors of the Holy Bible–the Words that Jesus said are Spirit; He tells us that it is the Spirit that gives Life. That is all!

    • karla
      January 10, 2012

      NO TYM 2 READ COMMENT TOO LONG

  20. July 28, 2011

    oh boy, Dominicans are so godly, When comes to gay people, REAL TABOO.Who am I to judge. Do i look like god, he is the one condemn this practice, I have my own problem to deal with, The bible have other parts which we don’t follow, just as worse as being gay. I think people need to relax.mind your buisness & God will deal with this issue. I personly don’t care.I have a morgage & loan to pay. I can’t study happy people. Gay people are happy people, they do have lots of love, When some Dominicans men come out of Dominica,You will be shame, being a proud Dominican. Having a nice wife home, but taking man on the side, again they are happy, why should i care. Greeting from the Netherlandse.

  21. My2Sense
    July 28, 2011

    Also, let us not make the mistake in thinking that law is there to prevent people from doing immoral things… Criminal law is usually there to punish persons for hurting another, or hurting the state.

    Morality (right or wrong) and the Law (legal or illegal) are two very different things.

    • Dominica I love
      November 4, 2011

      the UK said recently that any country not legalising homosexuality will not get help from them. Although we don’t get help from UK our mother land and they took all they could from us (they should also take all the hommosexual people from DA ) just take them. In DA we respect them and let them go their way do we have to hug them, kiss them and tell them it is ok. do you realise gay is not a malfuntion in the human homones system any more it is a life style???

  22. My2Sense
    July 28, 2011

    I usually wouldn’t comment, but I was intrigued by a few of the replies I’ve read so far.
    First off, Mr. Alleyne says that for acts done in the privacy of his home, man is only answerable to God (paraphrasing). Operative phrase there is “in the privacy of his home”. There are many amoral and sordid acts committed in heterosexual bedrooms (between consenting adults of course) that may or may not be worse that buggery.
    By the same token, the terms disgusting, filthy and nasty are all subjective, and laws are not based on “how disgusting” an act is. Usually, criminal law is based on whether or not the act in question is of significant detriment to the state and by extension, society at large.
    As for the comparison to marijuana, I don’t remember the last time I heard a case of SSU breaking into an individual’s home with the intention of catching him smoking. That would be ludicrous. However, you do hear of the police raiding the homes of suspected drug dealers or hoarders of drugs. This would be analogous to the police raiding the home of a pimp or a suspected child pornographer.
    As far as moral issues are concerned, there are many other moral issues that need to be addressed in as well, such as child molestation, gang rapes, and domestic abuse. Some of these acts are perpetrated against children and in my opinion do a lot more damage to their well being than two men having sex in their bedroom (as disgusting as that sounds…).
    To those who dare quote the Bible, have you fornicated? If you answer is no, then go ahead and keep on quoting the Bible as part of your argument. But for the majority of us who fornicate on a regular basis, please, let’s leave the Bible out of this argument.
    Ultimately there are two issues being discussed here; privacy and consent. Two consenting adults engaging in an act that is questionable or taboo causes no harm significant to society. People will bring up the issue of marijuana possession – I personally think that marijuana should be a legalized controlled substance. In any event, individuals “just smoking a joint at home” are hardly ever bothered by the law. It is the pushers and dealers who find themselves in trouble. So marijuana consumption isn’t a valid argument in this case. Plus the effect of exposure to homosexuality on children is inconclusive. The effects or rape and incest however, are as clear as day.
    We are afraid of homosexuals because they are different, much like the whites feared Negroes and the Christians feared the pagans upon their first encounters. Their habits are contrary to ours and their norms are foreign to us. Let us get past the fear and approach the subject logically without a biased mindset.

    That is My2Sense

  23. 1979
    July 28, 2011

    SO LEAVE MAN SMOKE THEIR WEED AT THEIR HOME TOO MESIEUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF MAN CAN BULL!! THEN MAN CAN SMOKE!! IN THE PRIVACY OF IS OWN HOME.

  24. Alas
    July 28, 2011

    Boy one thing those people just like to talk about that nonsense eh..every time i come on DNO they always have some STUPIDNESS LIKE THAT !!! and is always d same stupidness man!!! SHUT THE HELL UP and MOVE ON!!! DAmn it!

  25. LawieBawie
    July 28, 2011

    I have always held Sir Brian Alleyne in high esteem, but he has just drooped a few notches down my ladder.

  26. VALDA BRUNO DURAND
    July 28, 2011

    Mr. Alleyne i would love to shake your hand, and your foot right now. I have been crying about this law for the longest while, why do we want to punish people for their own sexual preference, i really need someone to explain this to me. We love to jump on the bibble, why we not throwing the bibble at our funicating and adultering leaders, so as long as in penis and vagina then its fine but when it penis and bottom it not fine. WE to damn hypocrite, i remember clearer the PM was interviewd on this issue and he said and i quote ” I run this country on a moral ground” that was a big joke to me, but it also brought tears to my eyes. TO all my gay, lesbians, homosexuals, transgendered friends, family and loved ones, the only person you have to answer to is GOD be proud of who you are.

    • 1844
      July 30, 2011

      think about it my dear, if they are not wrong why should they have to ANSWER to God?

      • Boogie
        November 1, 2011

        This is not a wrong or right debate. This is about allowing human beings to be who they want to be without judgement. We are all wrong if u think about it.

    • karla
      January 10, 2012

      THE AMOUNT OF MEN SEXING THEIR WIFE IN THE BUTTOM IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR OWN BEDROOM SHOULDNT DAT BE AN ABOMINATION IN THE EYES OG GOD TOO

  27. MASSACRE
    July 28, 2011

    I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THIS DREADFUL TOPIC AGAIN IN DOMINICA.
    I VOTED FOR BRIAN IN THE 80’s AND IT HURTS MY HEART TO HEAR HIM BEING SO UNCLEAR ON A MATTER THAT IS SO STRAIGHT FORWARD IN THE LAW BOOKS AND IN THE MINDS OF ALL DOMINICANS.
    “IF YOU GUYS ARE TESTING THE WATERS IN Da, WELL DON’T EVEN TRY THAT.” “STOP IT NOW.”

  28. DPM
    July 28, 2011

    Even if the laws on the books are changed, that still doesn’t make it right Mr. Alleyne.

    • alex
      July 28, 2011

      the man did not say it is right. he said leave it to god to judge.

    • Boogie
      November 1, 2011

      SO YOU ARE RIGHT?. YOU LIVE A PERFECT LIFE RIGHT? MR OR MRS RIGHT?

  29. Pastor
    July 28, 2011

    I would like to submit to the general public a memo from the word of God which signified that from the begining of mankind, Jehovah God gave man the liberty to choose. Nonetheless he said if you do contrary to what i told you to do, there will be a penalty.
    Therefore, whoever wishes to express that these are consenting adults, this does not make it right. We asked that the moral thing be done, may I ask, by whose standard is your moral measured? For if it’s by Jehovah God’s standerds you are out of line. It is righteouness that exhalts a nation and sin brings reproach.

    • seasoning pepper
      July 28, 2011

      Nonetheless he said if you do contrary to what i told you to do, there will be a penalty.

      ok pastor so where is it stating that the contrary is man to man or woman to woman. you just put in your own contrary and assume that is is homosexuality he was taking about. what people do in their homes is their business not all you own only God can judge them not u not me. free up them people, cause all u those pastors doing worse i not floowing non of all you again.

      • 1979
        July 28, 2011

        i hope when i send a kiss for you or pull your finger as u passing by, u will respect my RIGHT to be and act as a homosexual. i so waiting for the free up..

      • 1844
        July 30, 2011

        this world is fast becoming a Sodom and Gomorrah!!! fire is coming to burn it!! AMEN.

    • Tolerance Advocate
      July 28, 2011

      If I choose to be an atheist do you think that I should be subjected to the biblical teachings? I think that the laws of a country should be based on what is wrong and right for the society (who is a victim of someones actions) and not on peoples interpretation of the bible.
      The Holy Bible has some valuable teachings, with the ten commandments being an essential part of it, does that mean that people should be imprisoned for adultery?

      • Humanist
        July 28, 2011

        Tell them, Tolerance. I think this wild emphasis on the bible will fade from Dominica and other islands, even Jamaica (which is the worst of them all), over the years to come, as more and more of our youth go abroad and see and learn more about the world and universe at large. But for now, we just have to remain strong and to avoid at all costs reacting with the kind of fury and even violence that some of the fundamentalists do. We must be the models of civilized and moral behavior, and it is only by being as such that we can hope to show that nonbelief or questioning beliefs is not a bad thing.

    • Humanist
      July 28, 2011

      A memo direct from the office in the clouds, eh? How nice that you have access to such a marvelous courier service.

  30. S
    July 28, 2011

    I do agree that it is almost impossible to have hard evidence of such an act as one cannot indiscriminately enter another’s home under the premise of investigating such an act. But what would you say to the man who is beating his wife, or a mother who is abusing her child, or an individual who chooses to sleep with a child or animal? Just because it happens in the privacy of one’s own home does not make it right, nor does it exempt the government, whose function is to protect the rights and life of the citizens, from its responsibility to the public. I applaud Brian Alleyne for his courage in voicing his opinion so frankly, but I believe it is the cowards way out. You are taking the easy way out when you say, let everyone do as he/she pleases and he/she will answer to God. God gave us the ability to judge right from wrong and to act in a manner keeping to this. If we do not fight for our society if we do not fight for what is right we are not doing anyone a favour. I agree it is the individual’s choice to do with his/her body what he/she wills, but it does not mean that the society has to become so ambiguous that any criminal may claim shelter under our country’s laws.

    • Tolerance Advocate
      July 28, 2011

      Is homosexuality the crime that you speak of? and if so who is the victim and who is the criminal?

      • 1979
        July 28, 2011

        the crime and the criminal is the same….to undermine the moral and intergrity of our society with such a peverse thing as man and man….. when allu want to adopt children who will stop allu….???? what betterment will this bring to our society? huh?? dont talk about the preist because then they will have a RIGHT to pull little boys underpants.

  31. I'mWondering
    July 28, 2011

    I agree – many Dominican laws are outdated and prohibitive.

    It’s just a shame that there isn’t a homosexual who is willing to stand up and bring a human rights challenge against the law.

    The Constitution includes provisions against racial, sexual, and religious discrimination…and we all know that its discrimination based on sexual orientation/sexuality.

    If it’s behind doors – then it’s their business what they do in public…but as always, these met veye “Domnichen” like to mind people business and throw stones, when their backyards need to be cleaned up.

    Leave the homosexuals be – they are answerable only to GOD – not to you not to me. Just as the adulters, fornicators and the likes are anserable to God, and not YOU…so to should be the gay man/woman

    • 1979
      July 28, 2011

      human right my backside! let me get away from allu sick people. i have nothing more to say. if allu want to blister allu behind. go right ahead. but just stay away from me and my family. and dont expect us to accept allu in or around my home.

  32. A Voice
    July 28, 2011

    A lot of contradictions in Brian Alleyne’s statements.

    You know society in trouble when you cannot even depend on learnt men for moral leadership.

    So in Brian’s legal opinion there is nothing wrong with incest between consenting adults in the privacy of their bedroom?

    I just watch these guys with pure amazement you know man because these are the same people that would be first to cast up their nose and condemn if they were to encounter some adult guy having consentual sex with his mother.

    One would think that guys like these that have been married for such a long time and have a succesful marriage would be the first to defend the sanctity of marriage and encourage the youngsters to follow their example. But you never know man…you just never know.

    This nastiness seems to be the latest trend making waves through the world right now, but history has taught us that every time society start descending into decadence there is always a plague or natural disaster coming to bring things back to a natural balance.

    I watchin’ still….

    • Conscious
      July 28, 2011

      My goodness!You totally took Sir Brian’s point to illogical conclusion. You are entitled to disagree with him but you are not entitled to say that he would endorse incest or question the man’s marriage when he has not given you or anybody else any basis for making such callous remarks.

      I wonder why people like you are so obsessed about the sex life of others? It does not involve you!

    • Tolerance Advocate
      July 28, 2011

      This does not make sense. What is your point?

    • 1844
      July 30, 2011

      incest, homosexuality and rape destroyed my family,and this was done in the privacy of my home.I did not consent to any of these,I was the VICTIM.

  33. Jah Bless
    July 28, 2011

    Alleyne continued, “I think it is totally wrong. What a person does in the privacy of his home with another person is his business, he is answerable to the Lord and not to any one else.”

    What about the Rastaman who decide to observe his religious rights and smoke a spliff. Why is he harrassed and arrested? Why not respect his religious beliefs. Why therefore is marijuana not decriminalised/ ah magway sa.

    • babygirl
      July 28, 2011

      what nonesense u saying they can be arrested if they are smoking spliff on the street and blowing in peoples face. ok JAH BLESS

      • 1979
        July 28, 2011

        ehem i think the arguement says whatever they do INSIDE THEIR HOMES so where u coming talking about blowing smoke in people face?? stick to the topic.

      • Boogie
        November 1, 2011

        JAH BlESS is referring to when Rastas smoke in their home. Nobody thinks about arresting them for that

  34. whoosh
    July 28, 2011

    what is wrong with ALLEYNE – you in it man, you talking! you had better keep quiet and stick to issues which concern the betterment of Dominica before you end up discrediting yourself from all issues.

  35. TRUTH
    July 28, 2011

    sodom an gomorrah have to burn it have to burn.from captian down to the cook

  36. OLT
    July 28, 2011

    Brian, it is because of this law that many of our effeminate men (I doe know if you are one)have gone on to populate DA and raised their kids with great success, rather than live a life of sodomizing other men.

    Skeritt, stay out of this – we doe have that problem.

  37. Legalize Marijuana
    July 28, 2011

    It is a Great law, and it has worked. It is because of this law that many of our men like himself never embraced this type of horrible behavior. The absence of this law would only mean rampant man on man boggaring in our society.

    It is because of this law that some men have gone on to mary women and successfully have children and raise their wonderful families that have contributed so much to Dominica.

    Homosexuality is tabou in our society and should remain so, not adopting laws of other societies that have cost them so much; are now suffering with rampant desease because they relaxed those laws.

    If you want laws to change Brian, persuade Skeritt to Legalize Marijuana instead please.

    • Tolerance Advocate
      July 28, 2011

      It is reported that the countries that have a no laws criminalizing homosexuality have lower counts (per capita) of persons living with HIV/AIDS.

  38. Malatete
    July 28, 2011

    And bestiality is illegal only because a goat can not say no!

  39. Cerberus
    July 28, 2011

    I admire Sir Brian greatly but feel he aught to be more circumspect. By the same token one could argue that it should be legal for someone to assist someone else in terminating their live with their consent and in private.
    It would be interesting to hear his pronouncement on this
    “taboo” topic also.

  40. Saffie
    July 28, 2011

    When men reject the word of God, He turns them over to a reprobate mind. No matter what the law provides, no matter what the opinion or the decision of man may be towards the subject, the word of God is unchanged. Homosexuality will always be wrong in the sight of God and will naturally be detested by those who heed the word of God with sincere hearts.

    Romans Chapter 1:

    24: Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:

    25: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26: For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.

    • July 28, 2011

      @Saffie

      That is a good message. But it is only by the wisdom of faith, that man can nurture the words of those verses above, spoken by the apostle Paul, in their minds, and to realize that the power of sin is in the flesh–no matter what is the form of sin.

      Why? Because God, a Supreme Being of Holiness and Truth is of Spirit–Life in Love–not of flesh and blood. And so, He cannot tolerate the filthy and dead production of fleshly control.

      In Adam and Eve, man’s flesh was first, pure and clean–mesmirized in Truth, giving them complete freedom to exist with Life–dressed in the clothing of Spiritual Light.

      But Adam and Eve fell into the state of sinfulness and death, when they allowed the deception that changed God’s Truth into a lie. Romans 1: 25

      They brought us, their offspring, into this world with that same sinful and death condition.

      If only we, as human beings, would understand that we commit sin, not because we want to do so, but because God has separated His strength of Love–the clean and pure control of Life from our minds.

      That is the reason we continue to accept the lie that forces us to believe we will not survive, if we rebuke or disobey the sinful thoughts or ideas, disallowing their process and product in our mind, because of its carnal state, weakness or death condition.

      It is only when we have acknowledge that truth in us, and to allow God’s blood through His Person flesh and bones–Jesus Christ to redeem us from our sinful nature–the hunger, desire, or wants of the flesh, that we will come to know deliverance.

      For that is the way by which we can become dead to sin, and alive to our Holy God and His ways of Love, through our sincere faith and trust in His ability of mercy and compassion, because God is Love.

      Otherwise, we simply continue to be of no difference in the fleah. Whether our sin is adultery, fornication, infedelity, homosexuality, rape, murder, theft, lying cheating, coveting, idolatry, hate, and so on, all is the functions of unrighteousness before God, and He must execute His wrath of Holiness–not of His Love–against those attitude and conducts of flesh and blood.

      We are all accountable to God alone, not man. The thing that creates the controversy is that, homosexuals choose their lifestyles, just as the rest of us choose to commit our own sins.

      Why then do they demand that everyone else get involved in their personal learned or practiced lifestyle–even wanting us to accept them as we do with couples of male and female?

      That demand is not fair to society, who is always the majority–and especially in a Christian society like Dominica.

  41. wonder woman
    July 28, 2011

    hmmm. Interesting debate. God loves us doh matter our race, nationality, social standing, rich, poor or our sexuality. He is a forgiving God. Only he can judge us, dont pass judgement on any one.

    • Alas
      July 28, 2011

      we are allowed to judge when the Sin is Right in Our Eyes! besides that’s common sense… If You not sure then That’s a different Story!

    • 1979
      July 28, 2011

      live your life on that standard my dear and u will have no choice but to take what you get…

      • 1979
        July 28, 2011

        i AM my brothers keeper. one of my family members had to find “THE PRIVACY OF HIS OWN HOME” when he find is so he want to live. now he have his own place he can put popo all on his walls if he want..

  42. chase
    July 28, 2011

    or rather… people should be jailed for nastiness?

  43. The truth
    July 28, 2011

    I don’t know what these people want. Whoever is gay can be gay , that is fine with me. But the culture of Dominica, as most gay people know, is that homosexuality is not really appreciated by the majority. Skerrit and any other political leader knows it would be political suicide to even consider anything else. Dominica is a Christian country, very christian. Unless that changes, and our moral values change (the majority) then homosexuality will be a no no. Just stating fact, so to the gays out there, it’s not aimed in your direction.

  44. BRAIN DAMAGE
    July 28, 2011

    The old men are trying to sell their dirty habbits, but there is no sale in Dominica.

  45. Neutral
    July 27, 2011

    Let me first of all say that I am a Christian and I firmly believe that homosexuality is a sin. God hates the sin but loves the sinner. But it is hypocritical for for fornicators and adulterers to point their fingers a gay people.
    It think it is between them and God not man. Where is the law for the pastor that is found fooling around with the married woman in the church. SIN IS SIN

  46. Josette
    July 27, 2011

    So are marriage laws discriminating against kids that are in love, but neither of them should be changed. Then why not just carbon copy and adopt the laws and constitution of some country other than ours?

    Since Vince went to the UN and made it his only and most important achievement, to sign on to a gay resolution, I just knew many high profilers would soon be technically ‘coming out’. Now who’s got next?

    • Family Guy!
      July 28, 2011

      Couldn’t agree more..plenty more so called high society people to come out…even those who wanted to have their own currency..$CB…..ha ha lol..lol

  47. Ron
    July 27, 2011

    I wonder what the journaistsad them would have said or done had the Prime Minister offered such an opinion. I believe the Prime Minister should not even give the mater a second thought as this will in no way assist in putting bread and butter on the dinner table and bring releif to our people. Prime Minister skerrit, don’t be lured. Sir Brian advacd the view, there is a deafening silence. Let it be

  48. Evolved
    July 27, 2011

    Wow – well said and put – Sir Alleyne – the fire that is within you truly is burning bright – point well taken – be prepared for the onslot of ignorant comments – some how I think you can handle it

  49. HD
    July 27, 2011

    Logical point of view…i waiting to hear the nonsense rebuttals….

    if it is crime, then with the two consenting adults, who is the victim, and who is the criminal?

  50. Conscious
    July 27, 2011

    Sir Brian shows moral courage in expressing publicly a point of view that does not find favour with most Dominicans. He is a man to be admired for his courage. My hero Martin Luther King said (words to the effect) that a true mark of a courageous man is not where he stands in times of comfort but where he stands in moments of great controversy.

  51. Noah
    July 27, 2011

    Brian Alleyne, go and read your Bible. Just as you said only God knows, God said it is an abomination, it is wrong period. It is either you are one or you just want to make money.Lord have mercy and forgive our trespasses. We have gotten to times as it was in the days of Noah. Deliverance soon come for God’s people.

    • Anonymous
      July 28, 2011

      Adultery and fornication are also condemned by the Bible.

      • Alas
        July 28, 2011

        He never said those were not sins! you want him to name all for you! Sttps ur response just shows how small minded you are!

      • 1979
        July 28, 2011

        i agree!!! but bulling is an ABOMINATION!

    • Charmer
      July 28, 2011

      The man is being logical and practical. That does not mean he is encouraging it. Stop those foolish rebuttals.

  52. Muslim_Always
    July 27, 2011

    Didn’t I tell you the people of Dominica that buggery laws will be off the books?

    Very soon you will have homosexuals roaming the streets, hands in gloves. Soon at least one person in every family will be a gay person.

    As I’ve said already, Dominicans want homosexuality off the books…they can rant and rave all they like, it will be off the books in sha Allah. Your children will come home and say mum, dad this is my boyfriend or this is my girlfriend and they will be of the same sex and I tell you there will be laws against “discrimination.”

    Gays will come here and hold workshops to “sensitize” people towards homosexuals. What a world we live in…well we have to adjust and survive through the times.

    As a muslim, my duty and responsibility is to those who are placed under my care, my children. If they choose that lifestyle, that is between they and Allah. The people of Dominica want sodom and Gomorrah lifestyle, let them have it, who doesn’t hear will feel.

    • Portsmouth I from
      July 28, 2011

      I rebuke that, my child will come home and say no such thing.

      • FSHS
        July 28, 2011

        I come in agreement with Portsmouth and rebuke this Muslim comment in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH! I send this back to the pit of hell from where it came and I declare in the Name that is above all others, the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, that this culture will not be welcomed and our land of Dominica will be cleansed of all stench of homosexuality, which we ought not even to mention,(and this is not hypocrisy) let alone condone it or wish it on the children of Dominica! I well understand Muslim’s stance!

    • preggers
      July 28, 2011

      Muslim Always yes you seeing the future!!! Hats off to you; homosexuality will take over Dominica before muslims bring their nonsense religion here though. You are in the minority just as homosexuals, and trust me you should know about discrimination. Right now you cannot go to any airport and not be made fun of in your “Muslim wear” that you may likely have a BOMB! (BOOM BOOM BOOM) hidden somewhere. The point? Your Glass house may need cleaning!!!! INSHALLAH you too will come to the realisation that we need to let others live. Live and Let Live!! If my half-muslim child comes home to say here is my Muslim boy-friend/girlfriend, or here is my gay boyfriend/girlfriend, guess what my reaction would be my child try both numbers again, I DO NOT APPROVE OF ANY OF YOUR CHOICES!!!

      • 1979
        July 28, 2011

        HOW U GET PREGGY PREGGERS. I SURE IS A MAN THAT GIVE YOU THE BELLY… GO AND REST GIRL AND LET PEOPLE ENSURE THAT YOUR CHILD WILL GROW UP IN A WHOLESOME SOCIETY…..PEACE BE WITH YOU SISTER.

    • July 28, 2011

      @Muslim Always

      I join with Portsmouth and the others to rebuke this prophecy for our Dominica, coming from your mind, now written by your authority of words.

      The question is: who put this prophecy in your mind, and why did you obey, even to speak the idea. Is that what you truly want for our Dominica and her people. Don’t you know that God destroyed Sodom and Gomoriah because of this same abomination among the people there?

      We do not need the Bible to tell us that the conducts of homosexuality is immoral, unclean, and unhealthy for those involved. It is not about the persons themselves, it is about their sinful conducts–an abomination before a God of Holiness and Truth–our Sumpreme creator and Sustainer.

      If we believe in a Holy God, we should know that the conduct is an unsacred sight before Him. Why do you believe God would allow such fleshly and sinful conduct to overwhelm the minds of the people of our homeland?

      By our faith in God, and through our spoken word of hope, we will have victory. Why do you call for defeat. Do you not know that words are the most “powerful authority” in our matters and functions as we exist in this world?

      That is why there are people like Portsmouth, the others, and myself. Our word of rebuke, in the name of Jesus Christ, against yours is the reason your prophecy will not prevail.

      And now I add: “So let it be done, that the writing of this prophecy might vanish into space, by the will of God’s Holy Spirit” in the name of Jesus Christ.

      For that prophecy is not of our God of Love–full of mercy and compassion–who gave us our Dominica, a blessed gift of landscape, waters, and the natural beauty of plants and animals.

      If only the people of Dominica would continue in reverend fear of Him, and to give Him the glory!

  53. Peter M
    July 27, 2011

    It’s a fact that homosexuality is dirty, nasty and filthy, so why is Mr. Alleyne trying to change a law that was enacted to promote family values in the country. Enough with this homosexual debates. Can’t these grown men like Alleyne talk about something that’s more sensible like praying, education and love and fellowship with one another?

    • preggers
      July 28, 2011

      Family values eh? yes all you like to tout family values when the shoes don’t fit, well adultery, and fornication, and stealing, and lieing, and incest and gossip, and murder, and ABORTION are all DETRIMENTAL to family values. All of you go and readdthe Bible agin, IS NOT THE SNNER IS THE SIN!! And no sin is greater than the next Bunch of hypcrite Dominicans. Get real or get OUT!!!

      • 1979
        July 28, 2011

        THESE THINGS THE LORD DESPISE. A PROUD LOOK,
        A LYING TOUNGE AND HANDS THAT ARE QUICK TO DO EVIL…..BULLING IS AN ABOMINATION….NOT JUST A SIN…..BUT AN ABOMINATION. PICK UP YOUR DICTIONARY TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE.

    • Alas
      July 28, 2011

      I agree…. enough of the bloody homosexual Talk THAT’S ENOUGH!!!!

  54. Lougaoo Mem
    July 27, 2011

    Show “moral leadership”? Not as long as some preachers preach one thing on their pulpits, and do something else behind closed doors. The same goes for some political leaders. They just can’t practice what they preach; Amen!

    • Alas
      July 28, 2011

      That’s why you have to stop looking at people and start looking at ur self! Pastors are people also and they also fall just like you and Me! Pastors are not Angels and hace halos…. all u people always there pastor pastor pastor priest priest…. but all u not realizing that anybody can fall just like dem….

      besides we suppose to be preaching the word of God every where we go which means that our role is just like the pastors… and just to let you know we also sin just like pastors!

  55. linky
    July 27, 2011

    when a man is smoking a joint at his home or in his bedroom i wonder if also that is not his biusness andis it right for ssu shoud be bursting people home and illtreating people at there home for a little joint- of ganger

    • chase
      July 28, 2011

      mary j is an illegal substance

    • Agree
      July 28, 2011

      GOOD POINT…..Thats the best comment I have read

    • Alas
      July 28, 2011

      AMEN TO THAT my brethen! i wonder what they going to say to dat.

      “Oh that’s something different!” Idiots!

  56. Anonymous
    July 27, 2011

    Why is Mr. Alleyne trying to change a law that make sense. It’s a fact that homosexuality is dirty, filthy and nasty and that no babies

    • 1979
      July 28, 2011

      ME LOVE WOMAN FOREVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

      IF A MAN GO LAY DOWN WITH ANOTHER MAN THEN HOW THE $%^&* THE BABY BORN….

      FAT SLIM YOUNG (NOT UNDER AGE) AND OLD. GIMME GYAL…….

  57. human
    July 27, 2011

    these are the men that people are supposed too look up to to keep law and order. but listern to his statment . a person is anserable to god and not man.. so i want to know if its law that a person should be punished for n homo acts and mr allen thinks that its wrong to punish a person for that choice then i want to ask why should a person who choses to be a theif or rapist or drug dealer be punished for making the choice to be either?. i hate a homo and i belive they should all be put behind bars .the same way i hate a rapist or drug dealer or theif, these are the persons messing up our young men /sons/ daughter or children.when we get rid of them we will have a better society. the homos are perverts just as the rapist

  58. Wenner
    July 27, 2011

    Why is Sir Brian Alleyne talking so much?

  59. Channel 1
    July 27, 2011

    Ohhh brother!! Here again is another attempt by some of the confused elements in society to justify the legalization of the perversion and filth known as homosexuality. Utter nonsense.

    I hope this government and any future government in Dominica has the backbone to resist the calls of those mind warped individuals and organisations that want homosexuality to be legalized.

    Homosexuality is nothing more than downright nastiness!!

  60. ROSEAU!
    July 27, 2011

    I am not touching this one cause something tells me to take the 5th.

    • Anonymous
      July 28, 2011

      ME TOO……I ZIP MY MOUTH……

    • Homeboy
      July 28, 2011

      I said the same when I read it….so if I kill a thief in the privacy of my home, is it not a crime…

      • Homeboy
        July 28, 2011

        Well not a thief.. Cause I am justified.. How bout any individual.

      • hmm
        July 28, 2011

        Would you have ‘consent’ from the other individual to have be killed. Causing death is a crime. Sex… a different story.

      • yes i
        July 28, 2011

        lol – yes as long as the thief consents (ACCORDING TO MR. ALLEYNE’S NONSENSE)

  61. preggers
    July 27, 2011

    Yes I agree we tend to forget that Jehovah God is the judge!!! We may condemn, and castigate, and shame homsexuals, but you are quite right Sir, it is not the business of others to judge what consenting adults do in private!!!!! Let’s leave the judging to GOD!! The times are upon us, to change the laws and get real!! Too many hypocrites in Dominica.

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