Student in Venezuela seeks representation

Firstly I thank God for life and strength.

I am going to try to get straight to the point. I am a student in Venezuela and I want to thank the government of both countries for the opportunity for further education.

However something is missing desperately and that is the representation of whoever is the ambassador. Since I came to Venezuela we have been asking, calling, begging for representation.

When we compare ourselves to the students in China, Cuba, Mexico etc, we find out that they have ambassadors who are always present or easily accessed, so what up with us in Venezuela?

Sometimes I wonder if the government is even aware that we are here. Things cannot continue like that.

We just want someone to pass around and see how we are doing, make sure all is well.

When the locals realize that we don’t have representation they seek to take advantage of us. Compared to the African students, their ambassador is on the scene in a matter of hours if they ever have any problems. I have witnessed this myself and you can see how the schools have more respect for these students than us.

If our passport gets stolen, if we need things like computers from home, if we find ourselves in problems with the locals (which sometimes happens) we just want someone to have our back.

Dear editor, can you get us a response from the people in charge, if there is someone, a name, a working number? It is time to fix this.

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41 Comments

  1. Student in Venezuela
    February 28, 2012

    Believe me when I say that this student has solid grounds of whch to complain.WE have a “Convenio” only in name, because at the end of our hard long five years of studying we are still expected to sit high school exams to graduate. A fact which was hidden from all of us from our Government and the organization in charge of us here.Put that with the living conditions of many students and neglect on the part of our Government to at least aliviate the situation is just incredible.All I can say is Hold strong and work hard to finish.Think of the greater goal like we all do here.

  2. What i know
    February 28, 2012

    There is an ad on the television that goes something like this: “When last did you ask a friend our for a drink… so you can text each other”.

    As students in a similar government programme, we contacted the Ministry with our problems OR our parents walked up the stairs of the ministry, every day if necessary, to speak on our behalf. During the summer, as a student body we held meetings with government officials and parents, with some of us being as old as 27, 28. We negotiated for stipends and public assistance for those in dire needs. Of course there will always be those with better family financial support than others.

    Problems did not get solved overnight but they were voiced in the right forum and structures were put in place, even if it meant delegating a Student Representative in every region so that person would communicate with the Ministry at home or the Authorities responsible for students in the country where we were studying.

    The way we go about handling our problems these days seeks for one ‘solution’, and that is public discourse and debate as we see and hear… sadly with no resolve to the problems.

    Student, please take a hint. Furthermore, when you are in anyone’s country especially as a dependent you must be very mindful of how you go about spreading propaganda (true or false).

    You study in Venezuela so you should understand the concept of ‘Jefe de Nacionalidad’. Try setting up a similar structure.

    • What i know
      February 28, 2012

      Another point.. it is not uncommon for overseas students to not have embassy representation. Another trick is to team up with other Caribbean students and visit their Ambassadors. Trust me, the St. Lucian, Belizean, Barbadian or Vincentian consulate or embassy in Venezuela (just saying as example) will not shut its door in your face. it is possible for Dominican students to receive representation/help from fellow Caribbean member states. If the ambassador for Dominica is not fulfilling his duties, partly due to the fact that he is not resident in Venezuela, the next best step is to find a way to team up with a fellow Caribbean country.

      Hope these submissions are of help.

    • Stupes
      February 29, 2012

      i SUPPORT U 100%

  3. Stupes
    February 28, 2012

    Girl go and study your book eh…..

  4. Chinese Student
    February 28, 2012

    and who going to notice it as you send it on DNO? lol…..JOKES!to !! Did u forward one to pm office. I mean it would have to much more professional than the one above but…….just asking

  5. lmfao
    February 28, 2012

    @Peeping Tom,
    Your comment shows how ignorant of the facts you are and how arrogant you are. As one who studied in Cuba, I can identify with the struggles of this student. When I studied there we did not have representation. There was an ambassador who was very useless (2000 -2006).

    I do not know if it has changed since; but when you are in these people’s country with no one to talk on your behalf, dog better than you.

    Oh about the tax dollar comment. When you get old and wrinkle and fully dependent on social security this very same student’s ,who will then be a working professional, tax dollar will pay for your every needs. Payaso!!!

  6. Stupes
    February 28, 2012

    Zor toujou ca plaway….but why allu doe stay at allu mother home nah….allu did not do back ground check about d place before allu go……..Many students have the same problem as you. Is take it or leave it.

    • Anonymous
      February 28, 2012

      y is that we try to bring down our own people? am not crying, and after all..i have the option of going back to my mother home, but i will stick to it. and no one will block my mouth from what that has to be said.

  7. February 28, 2012

    IF THE YOUTHS REPRESENTS THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY ,IS’NT THAT A SHAME FOR US DOMINICANS ACCORDING TO WHAT THIS PERSON IS POINTING OUT AT THE ABOVE STATEMENT?
    WHERE ARE THE POCKET FILLERS OUR SO CALLED POLITICIANS?SHOULD YOUTHS CRY FOR HELP WHEN THEY LEAVE TO BETTER THEIR EDUCATION TO SERVE THEIR COUNTRY AFTER THEY HAVE SUCCEEDED ?
    THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN TO ME ,BUT I WAS INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO GO AT THE MINISTRY AND ASK BEFORE I LEAVE,WHAT HAPPENED NEXT I WAS REFUSED HELP BY MR. Z AT THAT TIME. THEN I LEFT THE COUNTRY I OVER STAYED UN TILL I STRIVED TO GET MY PAPERS SETTLE AND FROM THERE I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO STUDY AND NOW I AM WORKING FOR ANOTHER COUNTRY BECAUSE I WAS REFUSED HELP AT THE MINISTRY IN DOMINICA ALTHOUGH I WAS BORN AND SPENT ALL MY CHILDHOOD THERE…
    THE GRASS IS NOT ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE.KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING IN ORDER TO BE SURE OF THE TREATMENT THAT YOU WILL GET.TAKE CARE AND GOOD TO YOU.

  8. Student in Venezuela
    February 28, 2012

    I am in total agreement with this student. i am also a student in Venezuela and i must say things are very different than expected. although we are thankful for the study opportunity some of us are in very poor conditions. i am now faced with a health threatening situation where i would really like a Dominican representative to intervene. although i live with students of other delegations including Africa, and there is nothing physically that we students can do at this present moment on our own, i would really appreciate a little attention from a representative.

    • Peeping Tom
      February 29, 2012

      Student in Venezuela, if you have “a health threatening situation” in Venezuela, you do like the other Dominican students who are elsewhere in the world. You go to the clinic or hospital otherwise, you return home. Why do you need a “representative” other than your parents (or spouse or child) to help you get medical care? If your situation is that grave…go back home. STOP sitting on your backsides and begging a government to provide food…cook food…wash dishes and cutlery….push food in your mouth and still force out the (you-know-what) for you.

      Do our students in China, Russia, Morocco, Cyprus, and elsewhere see a Dominican ambassador to say hello or help them with their parcels? Lol! Nonsensical. Yet, they are all struggling in very far countries and in very different cultures…isolated and unable to visit home as often as you probably can. So…

      YOU take responsibility for YOU. My tax money is already doing enough for you.

  9. Chinese Student
    February 27, 2012

    Boo Boo…..get your facts right…we do not have an ambassador far less an embassy to put the ambassador in…….Before u come here and cry about the same struggles all of us face clarify and research your data properly…..Try to make it work for you..Some of us too like to cry when we should have known what we were getting into. Stop seeking for pity and help and make it work. Some of us are in worse conditions than you and we do not cry and write letter. Take the time and do something constructive.

    • ok
      February 28, 2012

      even your opening comments show how immature you are. i have friends in china my dear, who give me other ideas of ur life. and besides the fact, things not as difficult am sure as we have it here. dont try to water it down, we all doing something constructive by studying, but should i wait for something terrible to happen, then send a letter?

      • Chinese Student
        February 28, 2012

        Hello………….All I am saying is before you can come and send your letter and talk about students in China a represented by an ambassador please get your facts straight. We are just like you in that regard. So well go back Dominica and apply for a chinese scholarship and then you will know where times hard. What happen to your mother home? GO back you are always welcome and build a student representation to represent yourselves just like we have done and stop sending letters that will fall on death ears…Now i wonder who is immature. As my friend who is also in Venezuela stated noticing you want…

      • Anonymous
        February 28, 2012

        all we asking for is representation. too much too ask? if u dont want to open your mouth and talk, that is u. at least i spoke. they know now. and because i am the only one to talk dosent mean other dont have the same issue. and ofcourse is noticing i want. i want someone to notice my letter…and?
        i will keep studying. one day i will finish.

  10. Ms China
    February 27, 2012

    correction: the students in china also don;t have representation. No ambassador or embassy.

  11. JJ
    February 27, 2012

    i totally agree, the pple here are totally taking us for granted, it’s not becuz in our country we’ve got our parents and everybody else, but because we believe that there should be more pple listening and at least caring about us no matter wat the situation. we need representation in venezuela and that’s no lie, i have a situation here that i’ve been trying to solve for over a year and now one here neither in Dominica hears my cry. when i decided to study here i know that there are sacrifices that i had to make, living home was not easy but i chose to be here and i’m suffering the consecuencies, but that doesn’t mean that we should be ignored totally by our country. we are in a foreign country and i hope that it will not reach to a point where someone is imprisoned for something illegal, or someone is deported for committing a crime. i hope it doesn’t get to this point for the g’vt of Dominica and Venezuela to hear our cry. the CONVENIO between Dominica and Venezuela should be revised with respect to the scholarships given, that way others will not have to suffer the way that we are suffering right now. I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THE INDIVIDUAL WHO WROTE THIS LETTER IT’S TIME THAT SOMEONE OUT THERE LISTEN TO OUR CRIES IN VENEZUELA!!!!!!!

  12. tata
    February 27, 2012

    Go home to mumy.

  13. DMX
    February 27, 2012

    all part of the next level….. seek representation …. maybe it will fall on some good ears…

  14. Cerberus
    February 27, 2012

    We do have a full-time ambassador accredited to Venezuela. His name is Dr. Philbert Aaron, a Dominican national by birth. Admittedly, he resides in Dominica but I am sure you can contact him direct with your issues. After all, that is what an ambassador is for. To represent his country’s- and its citizens’ interest in the country he is assigned to. Give it a chance.

    • Sick and Tired
      February 28, 2012

      Man shut up. Give it a chance my big toe. The continuous failure of your administration since 2000 and you still asking for a chance. Stop bilking the country with your 18 ministries, bus load of advisors, useless consultants. The over bloated expenses , frequent travel while the country going down south. Every time students complain you guys say it’s false and fabricated now you asking for a chance. You apologists make me sick to my stomach. You corrupt good for nothing. No better than the corrupt African dictators. The students in Morocco complain and you said it was not true; The only truth that come from you and the DLP administration is the inefficiencies and the highway corruption.

      The wheels are turning Cerebus and the boomerang is will be back

  15. February 27, 2012

    How sad. Keep the email of the UN, Caricom,The Union Of the Anericas, CNN, FOX, and NBC. The world will be made aware of your problems, like now. The email and tel. no.of the gov.of Dominica should be in your computer or your phone. Keep in contact with your relatives and frirnds, in Dominica, and overseas. Seeing that you are overlooked, pland a way for youself and others in case you have difficulties. There are others who care about you. Continue to be strong, and I wish you success in your stidies. It will be helpful if you and your friend can communicate in Spanish.

    • February 27, 2012

      Please excuse my failure to edit my
      spelling,

      • Peeping Tom
        February 27, 2012

        Ok, ELAM, sorry, Ejam…Let me understand you well..

        My tax money must pay for the effort to get you to Venezuela.
        My tax money must pay for the effort to get you your subsistence, housing, meals, tuition, uniform, medical care, books, transportation, etc all of which you receive free of cost.
        And now, you also want my tax money to pay for an ambassador to help you get your parcels, visit you to say hello, and rescue you when you misbehave?

        At what point does the YOU come in? At what point does your FAMILY come in? Where is YOUR personal initiative and responsibility? When does the “government”, my money, stop propping YOU up?Are you for real?

        First, do you believe that the State can afford an ambassador to represent every Dominican student studying away from Dominica to “pass around and see how we are doing, make sure all is well”? Lol! You must be joking, Ejam. This does not happen. Wake up and grow up.

        Ejam, many have gone before you and have done well without an ambassador visiting them to say hello. Grow up, already! If you think that you need someone to do the things that you suggest above, maybe you still deserve to be at your mom’s home. Maybe you should not have been allowed that scholarship because you are still a baby. Do you really believe that my tax money should be paying an ambassador to help you ship or receive packages? If you know of one ambassador who does so, please tell us because i want to protest this foolishness on the grounds that the ambassador does not have work to do.

        You know, Ejam, you probably really need on the ground representation, but do you need a baby-sitting ambassador? Besides, representation for what? What is your issue? You have not yet told us what is your problem in Venezuela.

      • Blow hole
        February 28, 2012

        Peeping Tom I have no problem in investing our tax dollars in the future of Dominica. How can you be mad at the student for wanting a descent living standard while studying. If the students were promised the support then they deserve to be treated as such. Let us see what else your tax dollars is doing.
        A $27 million mansion and Dominicans are not benefitting substantially
        It is your tax dollars that have the PM traveling all over and we never know where he is going.
        It is your tax dollars paying Parry for doing nothin
        It is your tax dollars Paying Maynard, Saverin, Nanthan, Ambassadors , Noreen – for doing didly squat
        It is your tax dollars paying for the entourage when they travel in groups for what I don’t know
        It is your tax dollars that was laundered in the garbage bin fiasco
        Your tax dollars paying import duty while the black infinity came in free of charge

        If I had to choose I would spend it on the students in hope that these students will bring some value to our country in the future . Right now we are washing tax dollars down the drain on all the above noted and what do we have to show for it – Tail Wind excuses, one productivity report that makes no frigging sense; Advisors who can’t even climb the stairs at the ministry while young people with degrees cannot find work. Be real and sensitive to the students. The academic program is already stressful the students don’t need the unnecessary neglect.

  16. February 27, 2012

    To student:
    Do you have a computer? Ok. Make sure tat you have the email and the ability to EEMAIL FB to the Gov. of Dominica. The ministry of Foreign affairs. Keep in touch with them Let friends and family know what is happening.,

  17. Matriculation
    February 27, 2012

    but i thought de ambassador aaron fella was responsible for venezuela.

  18. progress
    February 27, 2012

    You mentioned CHINA…students in China have no representation. we have no ambassador, not even sure if the embassy still exist. Dominica just sent students out to these countries to study with no kind of support.

  19. Anonymous
    February 27, 2012

    Francois
    I find your comment to a legitimate concern rather unthoughtful, shallow and a delebierate attempt to mispresent truth- Should i there fore conclude that deing part of the Americas- i should go to the US Embassy for representation. If anything- we should go to local ALBA HEAD OFFICE in Venezuela- perhaps the link is more direct and more effective representaion can be obtained for this office. In the mean time i urge you, like the 1000s of other ignorant Dominicans to expand KNOWLEDGE to have more informed arguments.

    Voice from the North

  20. feeling ur pain
    February 27, 2012

    i guess the ambasador is too busy trying to file injunction which just proven he is a losser…
    thats what he should be more concerned about nt whether his name is alleged to be called in a song

  21. venezuelan student
    February 27, 2012

    I guess our students are left to the mercies of Fundyacucho, who expresses hatred slurs and are ready to sent back our students for even a ‘bust toe’ its time the government come to our children’s aid and quickly before we have a reallll problem happening here in venezuella, we need to continue our education in peace or maybe the government can look into another means of the scholarship programme.. we would appreciate that greatly.

  22. bone
    February 27, 2012

    Her letter didnt carry much meat. Infact we all know by now who is the Ambassador for Venezuela. Did she ever write to him or the government to voice her concerns or is she coming to DNO to create more sensationalism. Why dont the students start by creating a student union among themselves like we did in China. Am not saying that these students may not be having a hard time in Venezuela but sometimes we have to learn to start grinding the axe for ourselves instead of sitting and waiting for others to start everyting for us. At least if they organize themselves then they can start pulling hairs here and there to get someone to assist them. It is better than just sitting and expecting the Ambassador or likes to come pay them house visits. Just my 2 cents!! Otherwise i wish them well and hope they get the assistance needed.

  23. Calypso for so
    February 27, 2012

    I feel your pain. No name no warrant. When Thomson Fontaine said that we had diplomats for Mexico Tony and skerrit said that Fontaine was referring to Dominican Republic.

  24. Francois
    February 27, 2012

    Maintaining a embassy in a foreign country is very expensive, specially for a small country such as Dominica. Dominica being a member of the Commonwealth, the British Embassy may sometimes be of help. The Government of Dominica should look into this possibility.

    • Homeboy
      February 27, 2012

      The individual never mentioned anything about AN EMBASSY!!! They want representation. There could be someone representing The interest of the students attached to the St Lucian consulate for example…

      • Poor Va Tea
        February 27, 2012

        That is how they try to spin things but the more they do so is the more they make fools of themselves.

    • Poor Va Tea
      February 27, 2012

      Is that the explanation for the questionable diplomatic positions like King, lashkin, Parris, the Malago (Spanish guy), Suzanne oldie and business associates, the multiple UNESCO diplomats and more to come.

    • :-)
      February 29, 2012

      If they can build State Palace with large swimming pool for I don’t know who, then they can rent a two room space for a little Dominican embassy in Venezuela, and maybe Chavez can even give it to them free.?

  25. ineedfree
    February 27, 2012

    Speak up and never be afraid. JUST REMAIN POLITE, PRAYERFUL AND DISCIPLINE.

    WE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THE FOLLOW UP FROM THE AUTHORITIES CONCERNED

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