In Jamaica churches angry, gays happy

Portia Simpson Miller said her party will review Jamaica's buggery law

JAMAICA -The perennially controversial issue of homosexuality appears to have set the Opposition People’s National Party (PNP) on collision course with some sections of the Christian Church.

PNP Leader Portia Simpson Miller shocked the television audience watching her debate with Prime Minister Andrew Holness Tuesday night, with her suggestion that the buggery law should be reviewed and that she was not opposed to having gays in a Cabinet led by her.

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20 Comments

  1. July 9, 2013

    Those who rule Jamaica should look objectively at the facts.

    Who are they trying to please? Is it the people who elected them? Or the USA? or the UK?

    I spent ten weeeks in Jamaica on my last visit. I find it hard to believe the people would want the anti-buggery laws dropped.

    Obama says the USA will give money to support homosexual lobby groups in nations that are not gay friendly. Cameron says the UK will cut off assistance to countries that have anti-gay laws. It is hard to imagine the USA and the UK using these kind of bullying tactics but that is what they are doing.

    It’s hard to understand Obama’s motives. At one time he opposed gay marriage. Then he did a political flip-flop. Now he seems obsessed with promoting homosexuality.

    In the case of Cameron some believe he gives financial aid to nations with the hopes of eventually getting a hand into their affairs.

    Christians oppose homosexuality because:

    (1) The Bible (in the New Testament) clearly forbids homosexuality and calls it sin. Romans 1:21-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9,10, 1 Timothy 1:9,10, and Jude vs.7.

    (2) The Christian church has forbidden homosexuality, along with adultery, and fornication, for 2,000 years.

    (3) The nations with a Christian heritage have had laws against homosexual practices for hundreds of years.

    (4) Studies have shown that homosexuals have a higher rate of mental illness, alcoholism, suicides, and a shorter life span than heterosexuals.

    (5) Besides the fact that homosexuality is the main factor in the spread of AIDS in some countries, there are also physical injuries and illnesses caused by the unatural type of “intercourse” indulged in by homosexuals, especially gay men.

    (6) Most people don’t know this and very few have cared enough to do the research. But homosexuality in itself is a doorway to a very dark world. Once a person has crossed the threshold into the realm of same sex relationships it is easy to become involved in crimes so diabolical I will not mention them here. Not all do. But some do. And the number of homosexuals who do is much greater than it should be when you look at the small percentage of the population that is gay.

    I join my brothers and sisters in Christ throughout Jamaica in prayer for the entire nation, especially those in authority. To the pastors of Bible believing churches and all who give leadership to the people of God I say, “Ye are the salt of the earth…. …Ye are the light of the world.” (Matthew 5:13,14)

    Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. Pentecostal Evangelist. wwwlivinghopeministries.ca

  2. Really Now
    December 24, 2011

    “That kind of approach would be difficult for Christians to support because character and integrity takes precedence over ability.”

    Character is something that can easily be cloaked, disguised or faked. Integrity is something that is extremely difficult to judge, you would have to be God himself to know exactly everything about somebody to be able to fully judge their integrity.

    Ability on the other hand is something easily quantifiable and testable. To say that two vague principals are to be put above the most essential trait that qualifies anyone for any position is absolutely ludicrous. Not to mention that being homosexual has nothing to do with either character or integrity as someone who is homosexual is perfectly capable of excelling in both qualities.

    Way to go with backward thinking guys. This is why anyone with brains who is not a hypocrite shies a way from religion. The level of thinking necessary to adhere to such a system goes against every fundamental principal of logical reasoning.

  3. Justice and Truth
    December 23, 2011

    As human beings and nationals they are entitled to fair employment whether it is as a cabinet minister.
    The problem is that they should keep their intrinsic lifestyle to themselves and not expose it to every one. This is what I detest about those so-called gays who go about saying that “I am a gay. I have pride” and want equal rights. Some pride and what equal rights. This is nothing to be proud of. They cannot have the same right as heterosexual couples, man and woman, husband and wife. It is the height of stupidity for them to want this. It is one of the stupidity of this era that two men and two women are entitled to get married. Oh my! How upsetting! Something is radically wrong with them and their mentality and those who support them.
    Once they enter into the political arena and they are elected, they will promote their cause and agenda. This is what should be prohibited.
    They are bold enough to expect the churches that serve God to marry them. It revolts and upsets me. Woe to them I say and those who legislate this abomination!

  4. We the People
    December 23, 2011

    Never mind all the pastors and preachers who whinning about homosexuality. If you were to dig into their lives, you will see a lot of them are having affairs on the side. Some may even be closet gays.

    They are a bunch of hypocrites who are very selective when it comes to which sin they abhor and those they turn a blind eye to.

    • Justice and Truth
      December 23, 2011

      @ We the people

      I could call myself “we the people too”. Every one else could do likewise.
      The issue is not what the Pastors do in their personal lives. This is between God and themselves; not yours. God knows what they do and He knows what you do in your personal life and behind closed doors. Your unloving, ignorant and inconsiderate statement is not worth a dime or penny. Actually, it is none of your business.
      The issue is what the Jamaican PNP Leader stated. Religious groups have reason to oppose what she stated if they so wish. They have rights too and all for the love of God.
      You must not judge others for you really do not know what they do in their private life. By judging, you are generalizing and judging them all which is not fair.
      As Our Lord Jesus Christ said, “Pluck the splinter out of your eyes…” before judging others and “Judge not that you may not be judged two-fold.”

  5. Posse
    December 23, 2011

    You don’t even want to know the secrets of so many people in high places. Many of them have alternative lifestyles. I am not judging right or wrong the PM of Jamaica has gutts to say that. All I know I would rather have Barney Frank in office than anyone in Dominica. {Barney Frank is openly gay and a fantastic politition.}

  6. Pinky Husband
    December 22, 2011

    nasty people

  7. December 22, 2011

    i find she looking hot!!! :-P

  8. MAXIMUM PUNISHM3NT
    December 22, 2011

    gays shud be quarantine or put in an asylum

  9. DDDDDDDDDD
    December 22, 2011

    A ROTTEN ONE TOO

  10. patriot
    December 22, 2011

    I SMELL A RAT!!!!

  11. 4progress
    December 22, 2011

    it is nice to see some people are coming to their senses….alalua

  12. UNTOLD STORIES
    December 22, 2011

    A CABINET WITH ALL DRAWS DOWN.
    NO TIME FOR WORK, PORTIA BEHAVE YOURSELF BEFORE A FEMALE MINISTER RUN AWAY WITH YOUR DRAWS

  13. A_S
    December 22, 2011

    I think the buggery laws here need to be reviewed, not to serve England and America but for the well being and integrity of our society.

    There are many laws on the books besides homosexuality that needs addressing.

    We need to approach the subject of homosexuality not only from a moral point of view but from a scientific and logical point of view. One needs to serious examine the implications of legalizing or strengthening the laws against homosexuality.

    • Nouvelle Lawi
      December 22, 2011

      growing up we knew people who were homosexuals from birth, the others are just nasty.

      • A_S
        December 22, 2011

        From birth? Can you look at a baby and decide whether he/she is gay or straight? Secondly, how can one be “gay” or “straight” from young when sexual feelings have not been developed at this time? What is your evidence for this?

  14. VL
    December 22, 2011

    How does being gay prevent someone being a productive, honest member of cabinet. If we elected everyone based solely on what religion they believed or their personal lives, we would most likely have incompetent people in every field, which partially explains why Caribbean countries are less developed than other parts of the Western World

    • Concerned Long Time
      December 22, 2011

      I don’t agree with this statement. There are a variety of reasons why Caribbean Countries are less developed that other countries in the world. Logically thinking the countries which are now classified by the UN as being developed took a long time to do so and did allot of selfish, inhuman and crimninal things along the road to development inclusive of the stealing of intellectual property rights, lack of protection of basic human rights and plundering of the poor and militarily weak. We should refrain from simply following their paths like confused hypnotized children; to my mind and based on empirical research, it seems that they only want to impose on us the negatives and all the things which would enable us to move from strength to strength they have kicked away that ladder leaving us in confusion and anguish. Remember that in everything that these Developed countries do its for their own selfish reasons….not everything that glitters is gold!

  15. Anonymous
    December 22, 2011

    ADMIN:: the link is a circular refrence… goes back to the DNO story

    ADMIN: Thanks. Link fixed.

  16. T. Winston
    December 22, 2011

    She wouldn’t get my vote that’s for sure

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