Rename Patrick John Football House – Saint Jean

MP for La Plaine, Petter Saint Jean
MP for La Plaine, Petter Saint Jean

Member of Parliament for La Plaine, Petter Saint Jean, is suggesting that Patrick John Football House in Bath Estate be renamed after two national footballers, Kurt Hector and Norran Jno Hope, who died in a tragic accident in Pont Casse on April 19.

“I want to propose to the DFA (Dominica Football Association) that they should do justice to the family of Kurt and Norran,” Saint Jean said on Kairi’s Heng Program on Tuesday. “Do justice to the people of La Plaine. Stop all of the talk and within the shortest possible time frame maybe they should name the Patrick John Football House in Bath Estate to the Kurt Hector and Norran Jno Hope Football House…”

On Monday Saint Jean announced that the government had taken the decision to rename a sports facility, the ‘R.M.G Sports Complex’, in La Plaine, as ‘The Kurt Hector and Norran Jno Hope Sports Complex.’

However, that decision was harshly criticized by some who described the proposal as ‘political’ and a slap in the face to the person the facility was named after.

But on the Heng radio show, Saint Jean appeared undaunted pointing out to the DFA that criticism will come when certain decisions are made. “The criticisms will come but men who know their place in history should be prepared to face criticisms,” he noted.

Saint Jean argued that there is “too much talk and clearly a a lack of will” and renaming the football house will be a ‘practical and tangible way’ of remembering Hector and Jno Hope and their contribution to football in Dominica. “Let us give the young people of Dominica the opportunity to know that when I do well, Dominica recognizes my effort,” he stated.

He further pointed out that the renaming of the Bath Estate facility is within the domain of the DFA and it should take decisive action. “As Parl Rep of the La Plaine constituency I am saying to the DFA let us rename the Patrick John Football House in Bath Estate so that it will be known from then on as the Kurt Hector and Norran Jno Hope Football House and let us stamp their names forever on football in Dominica,” he said.

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153 Comments

  1. Overseas
    May 8, 2013

    But what is wrong with Peter St Jean and his Government people. Mr. John has contributed in his own to Football in Dominica, why create bad blood. Mr. Green donated land to the LaPlaine community for a playing field, why you want to change the name. I have no problem naming something after Kurt and Norran they are considered our football icons who died in the line of duty and we need to have something in their memory. Why can’t Mr. St. Jean seek some funding if needs be from the Chinese and upgrade the place have three stands built and name them after Kurt, Norran and Jocelin. The playing field needs some much attention.
    Jocelin needs additional medical attention, has he been sent overseas. Mr. St Jean why are you bent on cultivating and spreading division. OMG Peter wake up. Are the other Government Ministers supporting this nonsense. Why do we like so much division, why are we creating avenues of hatred? God help us!!

  2. Copeh Sarvar
    May 5, 2013

    Now i hope we see the makings of dictatorial rule.
    “Rename the Football House and FOREVER stamp there names….”

    that means that ‘after we have done what we have, the rule wll be it cannot be changed from now on.’

    So THEY “the Dictators” can make the name change but no one else is to make any future change.

    Now you notice that Petter did not ask for the name to be changed to ‘Hector, Jno Hope and PRINCE. Neither was the complex name changed to include the third of the trio. All because Prince did not die.
    So he was wrong not to die and therefore forfeits having his name included in the suggestion. PETTER WANTS US DEAD. He delights in our death.

  3. May 2, 2013

    Changing the name of the building to their names is a bit drastic but there should most definitely be something done in remembrance of the athlete and coach who died on their way to represent their nation. Their names should be engraved somewhere in the building. And even naming a soccer field after them (possibly in la plaine).

  4. Annon
    May 2, 2013

    Too political! First Patrick build a STADIUM in Canefield, Mamo break it down, now this, he took us to INDEPENDENCE, that should not be reversed too either.
    This type of politics stinks of broken Labor party stuff.

  5. langsal
    May 2, 2013

    the two young men died on their way to represent dominica and we should respect their memories… on the other hand they had no significant accomplishment like eg shane shillingford who is still young in the cricket business.. patrick john took football to a different level when no one was willing to guild its developement…

    st jean, you were still playing christian when patrick lifted the poor in a time when the fortunate walked all over them.

    i think what you did in court as a christian and a pastor……………(swearing on the bible) was so dispeakable you should RENAME YOURSELF

  6. May 2, 2013

    If we read our history, we will want nothing named after Patrick John. Nothing, absolutely nothing.

    • awa wii
      May 2, 2013

      only because we dont respect people and we only see the bad never the good history my foot

  7. Anonymous
    May 2, 2013

    Petter is tormented, he has sooooo much venom in him that he can’t stand himself :mrgreen :mrgreen:

  8. 4u2c
    May 1, 2013

    Peter I think that is pure BS..Peter I want u to insist that they name LA Basse after you..PETTA DUMP STATION; and name next to u LABOUR JUNK YARD!!

  9. I am D/can are u
    May 1, 2013

    I believe Joslyn is the one who deserves the biggest recognition the bridge there should be named after him because it was him that God used to save hundreds of live from plunging into their death on that day. And Mr st Jean hasn’t the FIRST and Former Prime Minister Patrick John Gone through enough. Come on Peter show some respect. The 3rd of November will forever be a big time of celebration for us because of Former Prime Minister Patrick John and he deserves much more than you all are giving him.

  10. maindesk
    May 1, 2013

    It is the minister who should be renamed PETTY st jean and his ministry be renamed Ministry of mis-education, and misguided affairs led by an over pompous idiot. When you have to think that this man is our minister of education always talking like a preacher we must ask Skerrit to please let Mervin run for Laplaine next time. By the way why is the Windsor Park still carrying the name of our former oppressors and colonial masters. Is not a name like National Stadium much better?

  11. i know
    May 1, 2013

    who thinks of such garbage i can not believe this is droppig from a ministers mouth. GOD LAY YOUR HANDS OVER DOMINICA

  12. Anonymous
    May 1, 2013

    This is shamefull and disgusting to say the least. How the …..do you dishonor a man who we all agree contributed to Dominica and football to honor others. Cant we honor them by taking care of their comrade who saved so much other Dominicans from the same fate?. What hypocracy the man that lived to save others is practically ignored in his pain while we busy insulting his dead mates. hmm

  13. May 1, 2013

    allu dont no peter yet poor prince he might all die lack of respect for him

  14. "O" STRESS"
    May 1, 2013

    WHY,WHY,Why have we become a divided nation? Why are we fighting each other? why are we disrespecting each other? life is short and we do not know when our number will be called, therefor lets live in peace. We all going to leave this world some day lets play our part to unite rather be divided. Those with eyes and brain can see thru all what`s taking place, give jack his dues and lets all live in peace one and all. Dominica is part of this World and the World is watching us.

    • correction
      May 2, 2013

      u sounding like motorist Rodney King after the la riots in 1992.

      Whilst u are at it. Tell the world to stop ‘watching us’ and mind thier own business!

  15. true
    May 1, 2013

    First if I was Ron Green would ask for my father land back.second, do things for people when they alive, not when they are dead, naming a building does nothing for them and the families, such hasty and irrational decision, think people think. Why don’t you make sure these things never happen again , make sure we have proper drainage etc and make sure the survivor gets the medical treatment he needs and the surviving family get help. I really hope the DFA association does not change the name. Ron Green make them pay you for the land. look a bunch of dunce people ruling this country. and he even threatening them. WOW

  16. justice
    May 1, 2013

    St jean focus on sending joslyn overseas for medical attention instead of the nonesense u coming up with, if it wasnt for this guy the nation would have still been in mourning with many dead , instead tim tim gets a stroke attack and already he is on his way to Martinique .

    • princess Osanna
      May 1, 2013

      I find Mr. St. Jean”s suggestion childish, rash and stupid./ Why do you want to rename the P J football house. This is disrespect for a man who has worked hard as leader of his country and has done so much for football in D A. He may have made his errors but he is not a perfect man. Peter, you need to build something new and name it after those two guys. stop being ridiculous.Are you a dictator? why are you renaming that building?You Dominican politicians need to start thinking like men and stop thinking and acting like boys./

  17. legal eagle
    May 1, 2013

    If the DFA obeys Mr. Petter St.Jean abrogation, they will be setting a dangerous precedent. They will create a vindictive culture of ‘revisionism’ that will take off like a runaway train. With name changes going back and forth, with each succeeding regime.

    This culture of self-hatred and self-contempt is a backward leap indeed. It amazing what HAVOC some insecure BLACK leaders can wreak on fellow black brothers. All this done at the sordid altar of political expediency. In the meanwhile they embrace the hundreds of place-names around the country dedicated to their former WHITE colonial slave-masters.

    These actions are all the telltale signs of the trappings of a FAILED state in high gear.

    Finally FIFA regulations, adamantly prohibits direct political interference in FIFA governance. If DFA goes ahead with this vexatious mandate, they risk running into serious rebuke (and possible suspension)from FIFA head office.

    The pressing matter now for the minister and the DFA is to air lift the lone survivor to better medical facilities abroad. They are allowing the young man to languish in the agony of his traumatic experience whilst they play petty politics in mock respect to his fallen comrades.

  18. mice
    May 1, 2013

    one word >>>….utter rubbish

    so you have to die to get honour for your hard work,,

    magway sah… like him or not PJ have worked hard for foot ball and red, green or blue should have no problems over that

    that minister is a joker

    • May 2, 2013

      This is just B.S.. The place is already named after the man, This is just total disrespect.Petter is that the best you can do?

  19. I DIE NU
    May 1, 2013

    Read the comments here and listen to the calls and comments on Q95 is two different story.The very same all you that calling on the Government on the radio station to honor the two deceased sportsmen as heroes because they died with their boots on serving Dominica,are now back-tracking here asking what have Hector and Jno Hope done in Football for DA..for Patrick John Football House to be renamed after them!ST.Jeans suggestion may not be right but why those negative comments about Hector and Jno Hope now?Are they not the same HEROES you all are asking the Government to recognise? or are you all playing the same politics You say Petter is playing?

    • Laplanian
      May 1, 2013

      People like you and Petter St. Jean like too much trouble and daybah. He goes from one gimmick to another. Why don’t you tell him to look after the health of the hero that is alive instead of looking for places and things that are already named to name them after the fallen Laplainians. I am a Laplanian too. We deserve more than that.

      • Anonymous
        May 2, 2013

        well said well said I applaud u :?:

    • afan
      May 2, 2013

      asking for them to be honoured does not mean that they erase the name of the First PM and maybe most active head of the FA ever to do so. why is this his only suggestion? why not a stand at the national stadium? Patrick John is an icon for more than one reason, his name should never be replaced!!!

  20. May 1, 2013

    i think the minister should change the name of laplain to the names of the dead heroes

    • princess Osanna
      May 1, 2013

      or maybe change his own name to Kurt Jno hope.
      How can a minister act so irresponsibly.

  21. Annica Alethea
    May 1, 2013

    Petter St. Jean should rename the village of La Plaine as Kurt Hector and Norran JnoHope Plaine.
    What STUPIDITY!

  22. Malatete
    May 1, 2013

    When the football association’s building was named after Patrick John I saw it as nothing but vanity. However, that is something the DFA has to live with. After all, it is their property. For a Minister of Govt. now to suggest that the name be changed is “None of their damned business”!

  23. Anon Anon
    May 1, 2013

    I think the best honour we can pay to the two men who died – and the one who lives with the pain, both physical and emotional – is to ensure that our roads and bridges are in such condition that a horrific accident like this never happens again.

  24. May 1, 2013

    This suggestion must go down as one of the most idiotic and shambolic ever uttered by a minister of government. This is clearly an outrage!

    You don’t honor one person by dishonoring another. There are other and better ways to honor the fallen brothers than to make a mockery of their deaths.

    • Anonymous
      May 2, 2013

      A clear indication of the level of intelligence of the Minister of EDUCATION…

  25. Watch Dog
    May 1, 2013

    On day yuh will tell God what Patrick John do yuh why you hate him so.

  26. Doc. Love
    May 1, 2013

    A friend of mine once said, “it is better to be considered a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubts.” A lot of criticisms that are pelted against the Skerrit Labor Government usually come from the actions and statements of most of his Ministers . Case in point, one once called himself a rottwieler, one once referred to Skerrit as Jesus, one once questioned the sincerity of Skerrit. Now we have this ridiculous statement. This guys must learn to let sleeping dogs lie,as the saying does.

  27. Simple
    May 1, 2013

    Is like Patrick John did not contribute to football at all. Maybe the Dublanc Playing Field should be renamed after Shane Shillingford too. Just a thought!!!

  28. Frank Talker
    May 1, 2013

    No way! St. Jean’s case falls for lack of substance and value. There are several other suggestions opened to the Minister and within the power of his government to proceed with. He can rename the road from Laplaine; he can rename the school at Laplaine; he can rename the school shuttle bus from laplaine; etc., etc..
    To suggest renaming the HQ of the DFA shows either the shallowness of Petter or his devious political objectives.
    Now, I ask this bold question: who has done more for football in Dominica? Kurt, Norran or Patrick John? Was Kurt the greatest coach of modern times? Was Norran the best player of modern times? Is Patrick the greatest football administrator of modern times?
    We should not run and rename things just because a sportsman dies! No! We should rename real estate because of performance of sportsmen and women and not because they died.
    So if the DLP is hell-bound on renaming something in honour of the fallen sportsmen, my advice is for them to find something somewhere they can rename. It does not have to be anything related to the interest of the fallen men (as is the case with the EC Loblack Bridge and the EO Leblanc Highway). So, wheel and come again, Petter!!

  29. Mwen
    May 1, 2013

    I dont think the complex in Laplaine should be renamed neither should the Football house since those after which they were named made their contribution. Please find another way to remember these guys.

  30. peter piper
    May 1, 2013

    Honestly,what attention is this minister trying to draw to himself??? This is pure crap, I don’t believe this ” suggestion” is commendable!

    • princess Osanna
      May 1, 2013

      shame, shame, shame. is that the thinking of a minister of education? where is Education heading to? i am ashamed. How can a minister be thinking so shallow?

  31. Mwen
    May 1, 2013

    Ok!
    When the minister die we will change the name of his village to Petter Saint Jean

  32. Anonymous
    May 1, 2013

    Mr. St. Jean what kind of God fearing man are you!!! Dem fellas still in cold box,, de funeral nah even take place and you have de nation in a state of tug of war. 80 comments thus far all giving you licks. De families mourning and you have de nation outraged. Now you on PJ back like a phantom. We could have started discussion and done all of this at least after dem fellas were 6 feet down under. Poor timing but again what kind of God fearing man would ever consider such a move at this point in time. Where did you get that inspiration .. only de devil knows!!!!

  33. DFA
    May 1, 2013

    I hope that in all the spirit of renaming of structures that the Windsor Park Committee doesn’t bury all the great memories of Football in the park. Great football matches were played there. As a factual matter, Cricket’s main ground was at the Botanical Gardens.

    It is rather ridiculous and unfortunate that a man like THOMAS C BAPTISTE ; the most complete Footballer that Dominica has ever produced and the only Dominican to have been accorded with the Captaincy of the Windward Island Football Team and MVP of the Popham Football Tournament and a former National Football Captain that a stand was not named after this sporting icon. Mr. Baptiste also was a pioneer in Umpiring in Dominica and was a Qualified First Class Cricket Umpire who stood with excellence in so many Regional Matches bot here and overseas etc. This man is more deserving than any other to have done so much for both sports in a multiplicity of capacity at many levels. As the founder of the once mighty Combermer Sports Club he was able to lead this club in many sporting disciplines such as Athletics,Football,Cricket. Many members of this club were able to represent Dominica,Windward island, Combined Islands etc. I believe that the DFA should write to the authorities to name the NORTH EAST STAND at The Windsor Park after an Inductee of Dominica’s Sports Hall of Fame Thomas Baptiste. He was also a former sports journalist and long serving outstanding Sports Commentator.

    May the soul of the fallen Footballers/coach rest in peace.

    • Jimi Hendrix
      May 1, 2013

      Well said. As I said before these guys are very impulsive and they don’t think thing through before they make decisions.

  34. watermelon
    May 1, 2013

    I just don’t understand, rename yyyyyy….so if another two young sportsmen die in 5/10 years time god forbit that don’t happen, wat will you do? I always thought you put someone name up after he/she have accomplished something,the gov’t should build a new road from the roundabout to the white river then name, we need development on our roads so we can minimize accidents….

  35. Skeptical
    May 1, 2013

    Shame, Shame, Shame on this Man. When people become entagled in the sphere of poltics its as if common sense is no longer within reach. Using this tragic misfortunte to promote his political propagana. This is just to much.

  36. La Plaine dude
    May 1, 2013

    The guys who walks and talks like he is commander of all forces east of Pond Casse strikes again—- nonsense >>>>>>>>

  37. Ha!!!
    May 1, 2013

    They should rename the Minister to opportunist House!

  38. realist
    May 1, 2013

    i think mr st. jean should know his place and stop talking rubbish the two footballers died and we are so sorry about that but the country doesn’t run around la plain tell us wat significance has these two live placed on dominica’s football why doesn’t he ask to rename the stadium

  39. Shame on You
    May 1, 2013

    Mr. St.Jean you statements since the deaths of theyoung men are distasteful, disrespectful and political mischeif. I sure the young men would never agree to have their names replaced by people who have contributed to Dominica and the Sport of Soccer. I really think you should apologies to families being affected by the deaths. You as a grown man how would you feel if the shoe was on the other foot. This is why Dominica is freaking slow and backwards. As thier Pal Rip. Why are you not making a way to get this young man out of Dominica for further medical attention before the week is over. Before he left the hospital plans should have been made to fly to another island or country for further care.

    STUPEEESSSS, BE REAL AND STOP THE POLICTICS NONSENSE

  40. Observer
    May 1, 2013

    My God! This man Peter is losing his mind! What about Joslyn Prince because he didn’t die, no recognition for him? He was heroic is preventing more lost of lives in that road. How hypocrite! Help the living to; don’t just prey on the sympathy of people. Why don’t you help all the other hard-working athletes in Dominica instead of wanting to rename every thing? Is you government so broke or unambitious that they cannot come up with something new to etch their name forever in history as you want to? I don’t know what the two contributed to football more than PJ, so Mr. St. Jean tell me why they are so deserving more than anyone else.

  41. concerned
    May 1, 2013

    Is this an attack on non-supporters of the ruling party? Just asking!

  42. Rest in Peace
    May 1, 2013

    Let the two gentlemen rest in eternal peace. This is how the Minister would like to see these gentlemen honoured, in a gwagmire of controversy and bad blood. Regardless of the legacy of Patrick John: Good or not so good, he deserves respect like all else, this would not be befiting the spirit of honour and respect. The Minister should cease being deliberate as a politician at least until these men are laid to rest in eternal peace.wowwww

  43. Jenny
    May 1, 2013

    i believe Patrich John bas done a lot for Dominica.Yes he has faultered just like most of us.Are we trying to erase our Independence.Its PJ, trying to erase the development of football from the fact.No we cant its PJ. i DONT SEE THE SCENSE OF taking his name off the football house. Furthermore naming someone after a road is scenseless how often will that name be mention only if there is an accident on that road God forbid. So Dominicans think. name the guys or anyone in the future something more significant than a road or bypass.Leblanc was a PM YOU NAMING a road after the him tell me how often is his name mention.Think under what circumstance.

    • Francisco Telemaque
      May 1, 2013

      Indeed he can name the bridge after the people who died in the accident: Highways, streets, and Freeways are named after people i. e; they have the Churchill Roosevelt Highway in Trinidad, named after the late, and former prime minister of England, and the late and former President of the United States of America.

      The reason I supposed the Highway in Trinidad is named after them is because it was built in the days of World War II when Churchill, was Prime Minister of England, and Roosevelt was President of America.

      One will remember they joined forces to rid Germany and the world of Hitler!

      Do not forget there is a stretch of road in Dominica named after Oliver Leblanc, former Chief Minister of Dominica.

  44. da lover
    May 1, 2013

    I think they should name the bridge they about to build in the area after those guys.

  45. Voice_Of_The_Poor
    May 1, 2013

    I would really like that layba party to lose the next election never hear so much nonsense, crime on the rise, poverty rampant, school system in disarray but the former preacher want to get at people, all other OECS countries more developed than DOminica, St.Kitts record a surplus,, sad to say Dominicans really get the Govt they deserve a bunch of jokers destroying our land.

  46. truth offends
    May 1, 2013

    Since petter St. jean and the DLP government are in a name changing mood, and are prying on the dead for the survival of the party, as an ex-DLP supporter and one with very good knowledge of the minds behind the operations of the party, I would like to make the following suggestion to them: Gentlemen, Rosie Douglas is the new icon of the DLP while Patrick John still reminds us of the Old DLP, what about honoring Rosie Douglas by renaming the DLP after Rosie Douglas, and call the party the Rosie Douglas Labor Party (RDLP), and even change the name of the present head of the party to Douglas? That sure would reflect the true legacy of Rosie and I promise, I would come back with the party.

  47. ok
    May 1, 2013

    highly unnecessary. the stadium (goal 2 project)in Stockfarm, which has been on a halt should be named after them, whenever that is to be completed if ever.

  48. Boom
    May 1, 2013

    Choops! Relax, St. Jean. Enough with that foolishness!

    All that name and rename and honour “fallen” already making me fed up. I don’t see one reason for honoruing those two who died. What did they achieve in life that so warrants all this broohaha? Ok, the coach could have been celebrated for working so hard for so long for Dominica. But, so too have thousands of Dominicans.

    If you want to keep their names alive, offer two football scholarships. I cannot see the reason for naming public buildings after them. What did they do that is so deserving? Die in an accident? Stupes!!!!!

  49. Realist
    May 1, 2013

    Has this man spoken to the people of the Bath Estate community? I’m almost certain not. I grew up in Bath Estate. Some of the first few settlers there and I will always remember how grateful my parents are to Patrick John. While we appreciate the gesture, I don’t think the govt. should demote someone to promote another, but sat to say this is how some of us think. Even worst when the people who are appointed to lead think that way.

    Poor Sisserou

  50. Nik
    May 1, 2013

    Petter, what are you rambling about now. There are lots of things which needs to be renamed in Dominica. What right does the govt have in telling them what to do? did the govt build it or was PJ instrumental in achieving this? My advice to Petter is to stay out of this and take care of other things like fixing the education system and replacing and renaming those people are in certain positions that is holding the education system hostage.

  51. Francisco Telemaque
    May 1, 2013

    Ridiculous; build a monument to the fallen, create something in their name if you wish; however, I do not think their death justifies removing Patrick John’s name from a building if that’s what it is.

    People die everyday, their death was caused by an accident which maybe could be prevented. If one saw an extraordinary amount of rain fall, commonsense would have dictate that the prevailing road conditions would cause one to be cautioned when venturing out in a storm, I see nothing so significant they have done in Dominica, to cause them to banter with Patrick John!

    In our country, we make heroes out of people when they are dead: and so I ask why Petter had not given them a bed of roses whiles they were yet alive; and what plans does he have for the lone survivor, who narrowly escaped the incident with his life?

    This is nothing more than a political gimmick, and a quest for political mileage!

    Petter seems to be eager to erase Patrick John from our nation history, nevertheless, good or bad he must be remembered so as to prevent another occurrence such as what took place during his tenure as Dominica’s first Prime Minister!

    One thing we all need to remember is that, Patrick John’s government was a labor party government, the fiasco, the riots, the people who got killed lost their life’s while a Labor Party government was in power lead by Patrick John. Removing his name from a building will never change that, and, and certainly will never be able to erase that part of our history from the mind of those of us who was alive, and are still alive, well, and kicking!

    It is what it is, trying to erase John’s name from the memory of our people, and our history is another way of trying to disassociate him with the Labor Party.

    Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque

    • May 2, 2013

      Ridiculous; build a monument to the fallen, create something in their name if you wish; however, I do not think their death justifies removing Patrick John’s name from a building if that’s what it is —FETelemaque

      This is not a person to person thing; it is about our people and our country. In that case, I agree with the opinion above. Even if Patrick John was dead for a hundred years now; It is downright insulting to him to rename anything that was named after him. After all, good or bad, he was once the Primary Leader of our country. And no human being is perfect.

      It seem as if Dominica and her people are in their own world, with their own rules and regulations, with no intentions of looking at the patterns of the world–how can a Minister of Government suggest such a thing?

      My goodness, gracious me

  52. 4progress
    May 1, 2013

    People, your voice on this matter is very important….we must not let political figures hijack what is a very sad and tragic incident.

    To start renaming building give the impression that DA have very little to be be named.

    What about public opinion on these matters. What is the criteria for naming buildings, roads and so after people. Do we only named these items when a person dies?

    It really is a sad state of affairs, very unsophisticated, disrespectful and arrogant.

    FOOD FOR THOUGHT

  53. dominican2dabone
    May 1, 2013

    ahbeh weh moncier jean >>ou pas EZ non…u mean to tyell me u hate PJ so much a building dat was named after him bcuz of his contribution to football in DA u want to erase it >>>all u not even checking sport and young ppl in DA but u sprancing now >>is only wen ppl die all u no dem..Say tank Q to PJ for wat he has done to foot ball instead stjean…FFF

  54. Unknown
    May 1, 2013

    Mr. St.Jean should call for the young footballer who died to be named sportsman of the year also. Don’t you think? I would like to know what did he do for the young men when they were alive? I am hoping that he gave them their flowers while they were alive?

    It seems like we Dominican have no respect for Mr.John at all. It looks like the Honour minister had that move in his plans to rename the football house a long time ago, but it seems as if the death of these young men has presented him with the perfect opportunity.

    I am wondering, where did this idea came from? Remember that Mr.John was once the prime minister of our nation. It was his vision and foresight, together with visionaries like Mike and my champion Rosie Douglas. The young men got their flowers even is when they are dead, but they got it because some ground was name after them. So why would Mr. St.Jean want to take away Mr.John’s flower(s) from him? Thank you Mr.John for what you and the other visionaries gave to Dominica. If it was left to people like Charles S(then head of the CSA) we would still be under England. But it seems like we see Mr.John as Dominica’s worse enemy. we tend to complain about the Opposition today but Mr.CSA should remember it was the same evil he used to prey on the ignorance of Dominicans back then to get Mr.John out of power. It was they who knew how to share Dominica’s wealth equally but among themselves, because he was sent to Europe to get rich and to live well. So please leave Mr.John alone because if it wasn’t for the then visionaries like Mr.John and others we would still be singing “God save the queen” and not “Isle of beauty, Isle of splendor”.

    Mr.John did nothing of a criminal nature while in power. All what was alleged against him was just lies made up by the then CSA head and his political party: stuff like wanting to sale portsmouth or Dominica to Don Pierreson. Did Mr.John took up arms to overthrow Miss Charles? No. But the court system then found him guilty and so he was sent to prison. However, inspite of all this the man came back and help build the labour party that those opportunist are enjoying today. He came back and help take football to a higher standard in Dominica. What more can you ask for? Inspite of the injustice suffered he didn’t let that deter him but continued to contribute to Dominica’s development. So Mr. Almighty Minister before you start dishonouring the bird who gave his feathers to fly please remember you can act as prime minister today thanks to VISIONARIES like Mr.John, the little man in height but taller than you in vision.

    • Boom
      May 1, 2013

      Unknown: “Mr.John did nothing of a criminal nature while in power. All what was alleged against him was just lies made up by the then CSA head and his political party: stuff like wanting to sale portsmouth or Dominica to Don Pierreson.”

      And the KKK was a lie too. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

      • Papa Dom
        May 2, 2013

        According to skerritt and tony, bring de evidence. Have you ever seen anything which says that ” I Patrick John, agree to so and so”? Just asking!

  55. May 1, 2013

    Peter I think you overstepped the line this time. Patrick John have his place in history already so leave it that way. I do agree with the individual who suggested repairing the Pond Casse road and naming it with the names of the two gentlemen who lost their lives on that very road. That would be the best thing to do. That’s my view

  56. amethyst
    May 1, 2013

    What is the use of all the renaming anyway,when in a few years they’re gonna be renaming it all over again.Not just in death for you to act like you know Kirt and Noran.Have respect for the deceased and their family memories Peter.This is just a Political Ploy and it comes along with your arrogance.Im just saying.Im from LaPlaine.
    Do us a favor and rename your church in Laplaine after them The Kurt and Noran Pentecostal church.SMH

  57. Life goes on
    May 1, 2013

    Mr St jean why do you want to build your political campaign on partrick John back ? You could star by getting medical attention for mr prince, giving a scholarship in sport in there name, and by the way mr St jean , you are from lapain, right.what about the money that got loss? Why don’t you help the family. Man leave patrick alone , what ever you all think he may have done, he pay already, stop taking people labor from there hand,I do hope the same meager you are useing on P/J you will get a hundred fold . Dominica does not belong to you set of of of of of, who take the truth and make it alair you to will have your reword.I am Dominica so is P/J.

  58. bigmack
    May 1, 2013

    why are we placing more emphasis on the two dead footballers than the one who is alive and is in need of medical attention? They will always b remembered, but my god, lets assist the other one so he cant get the best medical treatment!

    • Anonymous
      May 1, 2013

      Because taking care of the survivor is where the actual work is needed and money to be spent and there is nothing in it for them. Only when there is $ in it for them will they work.

      • Affection8
        May 1, 2013

        Footballers cant even use the stadium to practice and all of a sudden two of them are dead and the government is showing so much that they care. What hypocrisy. Open the stadium for the footballers to practice instead of being divisive. i am no fan of PJ. i personally don’t know why the house is name that way but there must be a good reason.

  59. truth offends
    May 1, 2013

    This new episode from Petter St. jean reveals a few things about himself and his government. It shows that they are just little boys on the inside, while they may walk in the body of adults. It shows that they have no ideas of development whatsoever, and therefore, they only depend on what is already in existence to go forward. It also shows that they are a government of bitterness and hatred to the point that they will do everything possible to destroy those that do not support their policies.
    Mr. Petter St. jean, I knew both of these gentlemen you are looking out for after they are dead. When they were alive, you never looked out for them although Norran supported you. If you really want to do justice to the people of La Plaine as you suggested, then instead of trying to hurt Patrick John, why don’t you suggest to your government that they identify what caused the road to split in two and then repair it. When they are done, do a complete renovation to the entire “Pond Casse Road” and then rename it to The Kurt and Norran Memorial Road. That would make sense to me because you would be getting read of the ‘Pond Casse’ which really means broken bridge in English and replace it with something in memory of them. Kurt and Norran were two gentlemen and they sure do not like those controversial names you have honored them with. Both the RMG complex and the Patrick John Football House remind us of two great gentlemen that accomplished great things for Dominica. Pond Casse on the other hand, reminds us of a road that took the lives of two gentlemen.

  60. Be Honest
    May 1, 2013

    Why are we even discussing this? It is clear that this is politically motivated. The labor party’s hatred for their former leader who gave us our independence and who have done so much for football in Dominica is the driving force behind this suggestion. I agree with a former comment, why not name the Windsor park stadium after those who lost their lived in the accident?

    • Papa Dom
      May 1, 2013

      Sorry but I think you need to be corrected here. The LABOUR PARTY and true loyal labourites, hold no hatred to wards Mr John, on the contrary. The persons holding ill feeling towards PJ are those from the other party who infiltrated labour. They are the ones who engineered the demise of Mr John. It is just so sad that many of people are so greedy that they would rather sit and take the disrespect for a few dollars more.

  61. Just maybe
    May 1, 2013

    Just Maybe the govt should repair the road from the round about to La Plaine and name it Kirt and Norran Highway.

  62. wotton waven
    May 1, 2013

    mR. ST.jEAN,i find all you too like confusion, it is plain to see that is strictly political. Patrick did so much in the football arena, to bring about this buildingand now all you want to rename it. Why did not ,you all put up these fellas at a hotel and so they would not have to be rushing from home the same evening?why didn’t you all support the under 15 ,when they were travelling is only when persons die we want to acknowledge their presence, wrong idea, wrong timing.i am sure the people of La Plaine are not in favor of this idea.Try another political strategy.

  63. sphinx
    May 1, 2013

    Patrick played the fool with power,so now let him get his pay!!

  64. Malgraysa
    May 1, 2013

    Patrick John has his name in history already. So now Hon. St. jean wants to make his mark too (…on the back of two sportsmen that so tragically lost their lives so it appears)? Please, don’t be in such a hurry Hon. Minister. Give it time and the right way to regognise these two men will present itself without giving offensive to anyone.

  65. Anonymous
    May 1, 2013

    I am a little ignorant here, wish someone could help me by telling me: What level of control does the Government have over the football house.

  66. Mie
    May 1, 2013

    Peter, I think you are wrong this time. Do not try to rename something that was already named after somebody. Get something else to name after the two fallen footballers.

  67. All the best
    May 1, 2013

    That is the worst comment that I have ever heard fro any government minister, the world over. His utterances are bordering on arrogance. The minister has no control as to what the DFA does. However, he has control or some say in what government does. Why didn’t he influence his colleagues in Cabinet and give these fallen heroes a state funeral. The Minister needs to stop that arrogance.
    DNO you better publish my comment and do not axe it as you have done in the recent past.

  68. I voted Labour
    May 1, 2013

    I am all for removing Patrick John’s name on everything related to Dominica however I think these ministers are getting too sentimental playing politics. It might be a much better idea to assist Kurt and Norran’s families with a donation since they died performing national service. I wonder if they were insured to play and travel for the national team? Mr. minister help their families financial and emotional instead. Renaming buildings and ever street and corner is not going to do it man.

    • Papa Dom
      May 2, 2013

      Shouldn’t that be I voted skerritt? Now tell me what you propose to do about the bath estate houses and other tangible things done by Pattick John, do you propose that they be destroyed? I guess that is a possibility seeing how all the steel and other material from the already begun windsor park stadium is now in the sea and the stadium at canefield was destroyed to put factory sheds when only a few sheets of galvanise were blown away during David.

  69. Darwin.
    May 1, 2013

    Guiltyness rest on their concience. I am ounce again thinking outside the plantation i am an, independent mind, no chain on my brain . Please respect my Opinion as i do yours. This is absurd, why dont we just rename Dominica after Kurt and Noran and call It judge. The ministry of sports has not said much on this accident. But i have one question for them. Why did our national coach have to be driving in less than favorable conditions at that time of the morning, from Roseau to laplaine and Grand fond and back to pont case ( take note of the name -broken Bridge ) to fetch two National players to take them to the airport on the same morning they are travelling to represent Dominica at the National level in football ??. Just a couple weeks before we heard of the problems our Athletes encountered while travelling to represent us and Lime had to step in and pay for hotel and food so they didnt starve or sleep outside. If the ministry of sports had the football team in a camp a Hotel at least two days prior to the travelling date, Kurt would not have to drive out in the wilderness to fetch the players and the accident would not have happened. What did PATRICK john have to do with all of this ? Mr. st jean It would be better if you renamed the minister of sports. You allready renamed the Laplaine playing field by removing the name of the man who donated the land to build the field . I hear is Ron Green grand father, what else do you want ? Do You want to rob peter to pay Paul ? what you were supposed to do for these men you did not do, so nothing you do now will not change anything what had to happen, happened and you can not change It now. Deal with your concience leave Patrick out of it, he is not in it.

  70. Rastafari
    May 1, 2013

    I do see that honoring those fallen footballers is a grand affair however, in the process; you cannot erase what PJ has contributed to football @ home. That in all veracity would be a disgrace and a shameful exploit. That’s a cheap and malevolence low blow Mr. St. Jean is suggesting!

    • Big- bannan
      May 1, 2013

      Your comment refutes the pain and humiliation Rastas went through under pj. I’m not even a rasta. I’m a Dominican who believes. In freedom for all regardless to hairstyle .

      • Dominican Woman
        May 1, 2013

        I am a rasta. The rastas of the PJ era was not the rastas we had today. Were you born yet? Do you know how many farmers were chased from there gardens by those who called themselves rasta during those time. Do you know about the 2 girls who were kidnapped and raped continuously by those who called themselves rasta? Stop these nonsense and tell the historian to give the full story.

  71. Jimi Hendrix
    May 1, 2013

    Another thing, why is it that we are so quick to rename this and offer that immediately after something happens. This just smacks or impulsiveness. In most other places, people are recognized years after they have made a contribution to something.

    I am not trying to take away from these guys, but it just seems that we seem to operate on a knee-jerk basis without much forethought. We need to be more mature in how we do things. Impulsiveness is sure not a sign of maturity.

  72. Huh!!
    May 1, 2013

    Petter Enough talk. You already naming the LaPlaine complex in names of the young men. Why stir up trouble? I think if DFA wants to do something, let them come up with their suggestion. How about naming a league after them? How about taking some of the $27 million to establish a football scholarship fund in their names?

  73. Student
    May 1, 2013

    I personally do not think it is necessary to rename the football house. Kurt and Norran have been adequately recognized by the renaming of the sports complex in LaPlaine. The naming of the football house after Mr. Patrick John was for a reason that I think should still be honored. I believe everything has its time and place and the original plan to rename the sports complex in Laplaine in their memory (and a scholarship I think?) should hold. It is enough. Plus we have recognized them, expressed our condolences to the family and many plan to be at the funeral and they will always be remembered by those who were closest and dearest to them.

  74. ArAb
    May 1, 2013

    Yes the guys represented Dominica but for the stadium or something more on a nation basis to be named after them is not necessary. Patrick John had an impact on football in Dominica and the football house name should not be changed. Maybe one day when someone who has had a greater impact than him, that would be appropriate. Rename something in their community. or name an area of the stands in the stadium but not the entire stadium or football house.

  75. Envar
    May 1, 2013

    NO NO NO NO<

    I think it would be proper to develop a field on the east and name it after these guys. Patrick Roland John has done all he have done so that this facility could be named in his place.. i think it would be gross disrespect to rename the mans place.

    So you are saying that if 3 people die on the O E Leblanc high way you all will rename it?…

    There is a field being developed in Stockfarm.. there are fields that needs to be developed in Grandfond and Laplaine. the bath estate playing field dont have a name.

    Please dont disrespect PJ anymore..

  76. Jazzy
    May 1, 2013

    Well look renaming papa!!! Stupes!!! Next story please…. This one is played out

  77. '
    May 1, 2013

    :lol: well well st jean..what next..

  78. watchdog
    May 1, 2013

    Absolutely no disrespect to the deceased Coach and footballer!! Best you name Dominica after them? Give me a break!!!

  79. Sandy
    May 1, 2013

    A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men…..I believe this is utter rubbish by the minister of Education. The La Plaine sports facility is already named….both Norran and Kirt will not be happy, cause Ron Green has played a significant role in sporting in Dominica especially in the South East. The Dominica Football house has been named. What is wrong with Peter St Jean? why bring in so much politics? OMG……thats the next level.

  80. HI
    May 1, 2013

    He should name his house after them, politics politics politics, please try to get Joslyn out for further medical attention.

  81. Anonymous
    May 1, 2013

    why bdont they named the accident road from the rounf about to la plain after them

    as kert and norran high way

  82. thinkinman
    May 1, 2013

    rename every field, playground and sports house to every sports person’s name that died tragically…n keep doing it for years to come. i support that movement…great prescedence! we already want to rename the mountains, why stop there right? rename the country also..why dont we just rename ourselves..since we have our own personal tragedies in life.

  83. Mr , Gouty
    May 1, 2013

    Why not renamed the windso PARC Stadium after the two national footballers, Kurt Hector and Norran Jno Hope, who died in a tragic accident in Pond Casse on April 19. Mr.St Jean you are a Dominican Government Minister to today you must say thanks to Mr, John

  84. Doc. Love
    May 1, 2013

    If the Parliamentary representative wants to win the next election in La Plaine he is going around it in the wrong manner. The naming of the Football House in the name of Mr. Patrick John is because of the service he has given to Sports and by extension football. For the information of St. Jean, Mr. Patrick John was a football coach at St. Mary Academy. He was founder and Secretary of Cumbummier sports club.He was Secretary of the Dominica Amatuer Sports Association. He represented Dominica at football on many occations, in other words he was a national player. He has acted as manager of Football teams in and out of Dominica.He was recognised by FIFA and many football organizations especially in the Windward Islands. He was the one responsible for getting FIFA to recognise Dominica as a Football body.In resent times he was the President of the Dominica Football Association.Mr. John has given approximately fifty years of Football service to Dominica

    • kuba
      May 1, 2013

      you said it all i think we do not need more comments on the subject can dno block all other comments this case was well presented.no dominican have done what patrick john has done for football in dominica he took football to another level and we should be saying thanks to him

    • Doc. Love
      May 1, 2013

      I wish to thank DNO Admin,for the record speed to which my comments on the John’s affair was moderated. However,I have been very disappointed at the length of time it has taken to moderate other comments I have posted. It my opinion, most of my comments which are directed at the Skerrit Labor Party Government are deliberately held for at times approximately two days so that by the time it is posted the readers are no longer interested in the contents.In other words,it is so far down,when approximately one hundred comments are posted,who is going to waste their time to read comments number five or ten.

    • BALAH
      May 1, 2013

      DNO. We have a little correction there. Thomas TOM BAPTISTE was the FOUNDER OF the all conquering COMBERMERE SPORTS CLUB of ROSEAU. Messrs Patrick John, Cecil Larocque,Mr. Harris,Mr. Desmond Martin etc were ALL Founding members but it was the late great TOM Baptiste; the first and only Dominican to Captain the Windward Island Senior Football Team.
      I think the DFA should call upon the Minister St.Jean to issue a National Apology for his outpourings. We have no standards in Dominica. This corrupt faked-DLP must FALL. It is high time we kick those thieves out of office.

  85. SPORTS LOVER
    May 1, 2013

    While I do not think that the football house should be renamed, the Football Association should name the facility in Stockfarm after Kurt and Noran, and not just a stand as the President said. My question also is what is the DFA doing to assist the other footballer who survived. Why are they waiting on government to do everything. While the players and coach were representing Dominica, it was the DFA who was sending them out and all I have been hearing is talk. The government should play their in assisting the player but it is my view that the DFA should accept responsibility in getting immediate medical care. We just talk in doing things. What is the DFA role is getting the best medical care. What is government’s role also. Who takes immediate action, who. I’m not putting the blame on anyone, but the longer each one waits on the other to act, it can only get worse for the young player. Let us stop talking and start working to get him the best medical care.

    • Be Honest
      May 1, 2013

      While I agree with you it seems that you are misinformed. The DFA did come out and say they are willing to assist the sole survivor with any help that he needs. However, before they do anything they need the doctor to make the recommendation and inform as to what needs to be done, as soon as the doctor does that then they will act immediately.

      • SPORTS LOVER
        May 1, 2013

        Be Honest, If you read my views carefully, I did not state that the DFA was not doing anything. I simply asked what are they doing and why should they be waiting on government. Thank you

    • SPORTS LOVER
      May 1, 2013

      One more thing I would like to add. This issue is beginning to turn into a Political Football. I believe to much emphasis is being placed on to renaming places after the two gentlemen. Once the authorities stop talking and act, then all will be well.

  86. Anonymous
    May 1, 2013

    Why dont we just rename Dominica after them? Seeing as DLP on ah roll here with renaming everything after our footballers 8-O

    Men who know their place in history? I see no men in government. Only boys.

    • Student
      May 1, 2013

      “Why don’t we just rename Dominica after them?”
      My sentiments exactly

  87. Truth be told
    May 1, 2013

    Patrick John may have fallen but he is Dominican and he built Bath Estate – and he rebuilt football in Dominica when most governments of Dominica thought sports was useless. He built more houses that this Saint Jean labour party government! He raised Dominica Football to a level never seen before regionally/internationally. I am no fan of Patrick John but I do not hate him that much, and there is just too much hatred in this Saint Jean labour party government. I thought it was already decided to name the playing field in La Plaine after Kurt Hector and Norran Jno Hope? Soon Saint Jean and this labour party will want to rename Roseau to LabourTown! Enough with all this political nonsense – this “beh-bell” labour party government should have better things to do – don’t they have a nation to build, the country is falling apart but he busy playing politics with the death of the young men – shame!

    • Cor
      May 1, 2013

      Amen!

    • smh
      May 1, 2013

      allu Dominicans dont know what allu want. give it a damn rest. can allu just agree to one thing? if they didnt plan on remaning a builoding allu would still complain so what the hell.

    • May 1, 2013

      THE PLAYING FIELD IS RON GREEN GRANDFATHER PLACE HE GIVE THE COMUNITY AS A DONATION SO THEY NAME IT RON GREEN AFTER HIS GRAND FATHER SO THE BEST THING ST JEAN CAN DO IS FIX IT AND OUT STANDS AND PUT THE BOYS NAMES IN THERE BUT IT WILL STILL REMAIN RON GREEN PLAY FIELD. OR THE BRIDGE WHERE THE BOYS HAD THE ACCIDENT NAME IT KURT AND JOHN HOPE NAME.

  88. Anonymous
    May 1, 2013

    Petter Petter Petter all I can say

  89. Jimi Hendrix
    May 1, 2013

    How can St. Jean say that naming the building after the two dead footballers will “stamp their names forever on football in Dominica” when he is so easily willing to rename teh building? What is to stop another group from doing the same 5 years from now?

  90. What do you think???
    May 1, 2013

    I think Government should not have jumped to rename the La Plaine field after Kurt and Norran however, the idea of naming the Patrick John Football House after Kurt and Norran even seems more appropriate. However the Minister and them too………. arrogant. The wise thing would have been first sell and discuss the idea with the DFA rather than going out and putting them on a spot on a HENG SHOW……???????????

    • Student
      May 1, 2013

      Well I think since they were from LaPlaine renaming the LaPlaine sports complex is in place

      • Student
        May 1, 2013

        Renaming it in their honor I mean

  91. Mizz J
    May 1, 2013

    I agree! Enough talk and more action. Patrick John shouldnt be offended. He should embrace the challenge!

  92. Peacock
    May 1, 2013

    How many HOUSES you want named after them, Sir?? With all due respect to the deceased footballers and condolences to the family, you are bordering on BS.

    Let the Football Association do what they want to do.. Too many times, our politicians believe they can dictate what each and everyone does. It is not so. We are living in democratic society, the last time I checked ..

  93. awa wii
    May 1, 2013

    i am feeling sorry for u sir, what next sir what about the young man who is still in need of medical care why are we no try to send him out so he can be given his dues as well what for him where he stand,the other are already gone sad but ture help the living sir and leave the people football house name alone

  94. Dominican
    May 1, 2013

    Well Mr Minister. Go ahead and name the entire country after them. You already name the one in La Plaine after them, what more again? We will never forget Kurt and Norran and the tragic event. I just fine you are stretching it too far.

  95. Footballer
    May 1, 2013

    True Say

  96. toma
    May 1, 2013

    I agree

  97. Pondera
    May 1, 2013

    Oh my God!! Bro Peter St Jean, your suggestion is shameful and classless. You surprise me with this bottom pan, waste basket type of politics. I am weary of this disrespect that some politicians show to people who have contributed to national development irrespective of their political affiliation or ideology. I support your view to show solidarity to the men who died. But to suggest that in doing so you must erase the recognition of a citizen who has struggled for so long and hard for football, is a down-right shame. Any principled leader would ask you to retract this statement. We are all Dominicans, whether we red, blue or green. Of all people, you letting your guards down as a christian to this dirty politics. Be gentleman and christian and treat people who have served with respect. Jamaicans would think poorly of you should they hear of your suggestion. Jamaicans respect all those who have been recognized for their contributions. And just to let you know that Patrick John is God’s creation just like you and I. He has made his mistakes like all of us, but history will record his resilience to make something of himself. He will be remembered as a great sports administrator

    I honestly expect you Mr St Jean to apologize and retract this evil sentiment.

  98. SMH
    May 1, 2013

    UTTER Rubbish!!! you should be ashamed of your self!!!! Do not drag Kirt and Norran into your political bull. Yall could not see it fit to fly the lone survivor out, who IS a national hero,saving the lives of so many but you busy about renaming a house. Patrick John like all others has his flaws, but the house is rightly named. If you were paying attention you would have heard when Glen Etienne mentioned naming 2 stands in the stockfarm football complex after them once completed.DFA had to ask for an official funeral, which should have been compulsory on yall part, and Prince is still in Dominica waiting on help from God knows where. Petter where were on April 19th when many were at PMH awaiting in sorrow? take your politically motivated out of this. and think before you talk. Just so you know actions speak louder than words. Get Prince back to full recovery out f this hospital which lacks the competency. Thats what happens when State house comes before health. If $27 million was spent in health care (rooms, facilities, specialist,etc) the nation would not be there begging for Prince to be flown.Im shaking my head in disgust right now.

  99. Missing home
    May 1, 2013

    Why?i think the most appropriate one will be named after them already.what next, the stadium?

    • Student
      May 1, 2013

      My sentiments exactly!!!

  100. TRUEMAN
    May 1, 2013

    “AMAZING”

    Labourites “EATING” their very own!!

  101. Serving the Public!!
    May 1, 2013

    I agree 100%. Well said Mr. St Jean.

    • Lovely
      May 1, 2013

      U too wicked

  102. Dominiquen
    May 1, 2013

    That is absolute rubbish!!! :?: :mrgreen:

  103. mabouya
    May 1, 2013

    I am curious if there was three footballers in the tragic accident why is it that two are getting recognition and the other is forgotten? r u mister st jean waiting for when he passes on to give him his roses? am a gf city man to the bone

  104. what else from U!!!!
    May 1, 2013

    That is a disgraceful suggestion! What the Government develop something special in the area of football in the Laplaine area and name it after the fallen men, but to come with this cheap trick shows the disrespect

  105. Solo
    May 1, 2013

    Normally I’d agree with the MP for LaPlaine since I believe he’s a genuinely good guy but he’s off on this one. Patrick John, inspite of fairly recent corruption accusations, has improved the standard of football in Dominica and should be recognized for his contribution. Renaming the football house after two great players by stripping the title from another who deserves it is not justified…..I’m not sure what R.M.G. stands for but if the people of LaPlaine have consented to the name change then more power to the MP, but as far as the football house in Bath Estate goes, it should remain as is.

    • Choice-X
      May 2, 2013

      RMG is the initials of RON Green’s grandfather who gave donated the land to the village, to use as a sports facility. Petter St. jean in his petty political vindictiveness removed the name, as a way of spiting Ron Green more than honouring the footballers.

      Drastic actions like that won’t encourage people to make donations, if foolish politicians are going to use it to kick them in their faces later on.

  106. crisp
    May 1, 2013

    so what now, if later someone else rises to b the national footballer or coach passes on u will rename it again? stupes..so what led to the naming of the facility to patrick john football house does the purpose still stand? renaming a facility don’t have to remind us of someone at all. so they are gone we will always remember them we don’t need a facility in their name to remember them? so because is p.j then..did u all consult p.j about that and how does he feel about it? now if pj dies today u will come with ur .. compliments and talk abut the work he has done and rename it again in honour of him? my my my what r u all people up to? y not name the bridge that will be built in the area the accident was norran and kurt bridge or something of that sort.

  107. Judy
    May 1, 2013

    Good sensible comment from the Minister and Parl Rep. After all, Patrick John was banned by FIFA from having anything to do with football in Dominica. Let’s be fair and sensible. This is the best opportunity yet to change the name of the FIFA sponsored House. I’m sure FIFA will agree 100%!!

    • Student
      May 1, 2013

      I beg to differ- his contribution to football still stands.

  108. WATCHA
    May 1, 2013

    BULL! PURE BULL! Stop politicizing everything. Patrick John has contributed quite a lot to Dominica’s football. The name should stay. Name a league after the guys. The park in LaPlaine is already being named after the deceased.

  109. Concerned
    May 1, 2013

    I just think that these Politicians need to stop their nonsense and find another means of recognizing these young people. Why don’t they build a monument in the village of Laplaine in honour of them instead of just playing politics and trying to rename facilities who have already been named in honour of the people who either donated or worked hard why their names are where they are today.

  110. Discombobulated
    May 1, 2013

    One word! Agreed!

  111. LOL
    May 1, 2013

    Next Saint Jean will be renaming Dominica..seems he on a renaming mission this week!!!!!!

  112. grell
    May 1, 2013

    st.jean it is politics on your part.no matter what patrick john did the name should stay.why cant you propose a road name be changed in roseau instead of using all these british kings name.your being a kid now man up.

    • Student
      May 1, 2013

      Suggestion -since there is concern about the Joslyn Prince as well who is alive, and he is seen as a national hero for what he did and speaking of renaming roads, Why not upgrade the Pond Casse road and rename it after him (or maybe the bridge or bypass they plan to build in the area)-since that is where it all happened and his act saved other lives.

      I think this is worth considering.

  113. freedom
    May 1, 2013

    IT is only now ST JEAN seeing how good KIRT AND NORRAN were all the time they there in his face. what are they doing with all the names now that they are dead and gone. I hope he will ask for the bridge to be named after Joslyn PRince the hero who saved DOMINICA From more fatalities and give him his FLOWERS WHILST HE IS ALIVE AND STOP that nonsense of making dead men proud. bull

  114. Looking in
    May 1, 2013

    I doh mind the House was named after a foreigner, but come on St Jean, what about Patrick John contribution to football? Should it just disappear and forever be forgotten? These guys died for a good cause, I suggest you stop making a mockery and politicking what they stood and died for. How about a stand in the stadium instead?

  115. Hello
    May 1, 2013

    Build a new and modern sporting facility which is so needed and name it after the two men. The national team have to be going all over the place to practise and cannot use the stadium as they should, so build a new one and name it the Kirt Hector and Norran Jno Hope Sports Facility.

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