Street demonstration to oppose repealing of buggery laws coming

gay 1The debate on repealing the buggery laws in Dominica will soon take a new twist as various religious leaders have vowed that they will hold a massive street demonstration totally opposing the move.

At a meeting in Lagoon last night, the leaders called on citizens to stand behind them as they make their position known.

Pastor Randy Rodney told the gathering that Dominicans will be informed “when we decide in a massive way to let Dominica know we are not going down that road.”

“I am hoping you can rally other people behind you,” he stated.

Some donor countries have recently hinted that they might hold back aid from countries who do not scrap buggery laws from their books but according to Rodney, Dominica “will show the world it does not matter how much money they hold back from us.”

“It doesn’t matter what promise they make that if we don’t decriminalize it that they will stop whatever aid,” he pointed out. “We don’t want that kind of aid because we will get AIDS…”

He pointed out that Dominica needs to be careful where it gets its aid from. “Just like you parents need to be careful where your children get their money from, where your children get their BlackBerry from, where you children get there iPad from,” he stated. “You need to stand and stand against that now … not just by talk but by action.”

Rodney had high praise for prime minister Roosevelt Skerrit, who recently said the laws against buggery will stay on the books for the foreseeable future. Skerrit had said that he did not see any convincing arguments favouring the repealing of the laws.

“I applaud Honorable Prime Minister Roosevelt Skerrit, for his statement that we will never ever repeal those laws,” Rodney stated.

Church elder, Felix Thomas, agreed with Rodney pointing out that “every abominable and corrupt act must remain as a crime in this country.”

Another church elder, Lindel Williams, told those gathered that they must stand against homosexuality in Dominica. “Will you as a previous speaker said, when it is time to  march on the streets on these moral principles, will you stand?” he asked. “Will you able to declare in the streets with a placard that you are against such behaviors and actions? ”

Recently, minority rights group, MiriDom, said it will be approaching government to have the laws against buggery scrapped from the law books of Dominica.

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157 Comments

  1. concerned
    July 4, 2019

    this…INTERNATIONAL BULLYING !
    If an Islamic nation was trying to force Islamic type laws onto other nations by threat of withholding oil, or some sort of economic sanctions, it would rightfully be described as bullying.

    I have never heard of or seen a Dominican lose his/her job , education, right to vote or position in society for their sexual orientation. In fact, many prominent individuals in society are LGBTQ ….that doesn’t mean we have legalize same sex marriage and start teaching it in schools like they do in the USA!

    Please ppl, we need to pray for our leaders to remain steadfast as the leader of Kenya so eloquently put it

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlG7Peml9Do

    It is NOT our culture. We should not be punished because our culture is different from theirs.

  2. Calm and Collective
    July 7, 2013

    Tell them donors keep their money. We Dominicans are not prostitues. We won’t buggar for money.

  3. jasmine
    June 22, 2013

    where is the good news pastor rodney and other so called self appointed church leaders? where is the gospel message by which people(all of us) are saved? where is it> convenienlty forgotted or brushed aside to play politics.you have forgotted, that we have all sinned(no one righteous) and thats why we need a saviour (all of us)how dare u point a finger of judgement and oondemnation against others when u have been forgiven much(he who has been forgiven much loves much) how soon do we forget and become self righteous.i believe that buggery is wrong. The bible says sodomy is wrong, yes, but Gods approach is to reach out an engage the lost with the love of the love of the gospel not condemn. Jesus did not come to condemn, how dare you and your group seek to condemn.Yes God did not create adam and steve neither can we blame adam and steve for causing us to be born with a sin nature.the first sinners were a man and a woman and not two men or two women.I asked a Pastor years ago to help me get over my same sex attractions he said he needed a team of people to pray for me cause it was demons or something. Long and short he went overseas and returned and to this day he has ignored me, he has never helped me. he claims to have a deliverance ministry. Jesus did not need a team to pray for people even though he had disciples.Pastor rodney your team of pharisees do not consider the young men who are crying day and night for deliverance from same sex attraction. beacuse of ur failure to understand what u dealing with u have hurt a lot of people. shame on you. get off your high horse get in the trenches and u will see some hurting young people who many people dont even know exist. yes people who are trapped in the gay lifestyle with no help from a powerless church. think over your stragety. u are aleinating people not healing them. whathave u done lately to reach and restore hurting, struggling young people who dont want to be gay. yes who dont want to be that way but cant see a way out.believe me thee are people like that.

  4. Mojo 1
    June 21, 2013

    Skeritt say he will never repeal dem laws dere, so why allu planing protest?? Wa happen allu doh trusting skeritt?

  5. Frabo
    June 21, 2013

    “The time is at hand. Even so Lord Jesus, come quickly.”

  6. Frabo
    June 21, 2013

    They are knocking on Lot’s door. Let’s see what distruction will follow.

  7. bereal
    June 21, 2013

    Taken from the NY Time

    Please read….

    After 37 Years of Trying to Change People’s Sexual Orientation, Group Is to Disband
    By IAN LOVETT
    Published: June 20, 2013

    IRVINE, Calif. — For 37 years, Exodus International was the leading beacon of the “ex gay” movement, which maintained that gay men and lesbians could change their sexual orientation through prayer and psychotherapy.

    But on the opening night of the group’s 38th annual conference here, Exodus International announced that the organization would disband, amid growing skepticism among its top officials and board members that sexual attractions can be changed.

    For the past year, the group’s president, Alan Chambers, has been increasingly vocal in proclaiming that therapy could not change a person’s sexual orientation. In a statement posted Wednesday on the group’s Web site, he cited a recent letter he had written to gay men and lesbians.
    “I am sorry for the pain and hurt many of you have experienced,” he said in the letter. “I am sorry that some of you spent years working through the shame and guilt you felt when your attractions didn’t change. I am sorry we promoted sexual orientation change efforts and reparative theories about sexual orientation that stigmatized parents.”

    Read more http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/21/us/group-that-promoted-curing-gays-ceases-operations.html?ref=us&_r=0

    • Anonymous
      June 28, 2013

      As an evangelist and pastoral counselor I take the collapse of EXODUS INTERNATIONAL seriously. It raises some questions that should be asked if we are going to learn from its demise.

      (1) Did it take them 37 years to learn that their counseling didn’t work and gays could not be cured?

      (2) What about the success they claimed they were having during all these years? It is the RESULTS a ministry is producing that keeps the money coming in and rightly so.

      (3) How did they stay in business for 37 years if a significant number of people were not receiving help? Christian ministries are supported by churches who are careful where they send their money and by Christian businessmen with a sharp eye who are always tossing around words like “cost effective”, “productivity”, and “results”.

      (4) I have not met Alan Chambers but from all I have read through the years I can only conclude he is a sincere and dedicated man. The fact that he offered an apology to those he had hurt (or thought he had hurt) confirms this. Few people understand the burdens and pressure the leader of a ministry this size is under. Could he be suffering from burnout? (No shame. I expect I would be.) Could his workers also be experiencing burnout?

      (5) What kind of counselors did he have? No doubt sincere, dedicated, and hard working. But did they have the professional training to remained “unattached” and avoid becoming emotionally involved?

      (6) What type of counseling did they offer? I am hearing about something called “conversion therapy”. I know what conversion is. A true conversion to Christ changes lives. It is not an immediate end to all our problems but it does give us the resources to overcome. However, I don’t know what they mean by “conversion therapy” and I’m afraid it may differ from counselor to counselor.

      (7) Are the Exodus International workers saying that their particular approach does not work or that no approach works; that their type of counseling failed or that no counseling is effective? I can hardly imagine them claiming the latter because I know not only CHRISTIAN counselors but SECULAR counselors – psychologists and psychiatrists – who say otherwise and have had success treating homosexuals.

      (8) When Mr. Chambers speaks of “failure” what is he calling “failure”? Because an ex-gay experiences a temptation – an inordinate twinge of feeling – towards a man, does that mean he is not cured? No! We are all born with a sinful human nature. You may be tempted one way and I may be tempted another way. Whatever our individual area of weakness is it is something Christians can learn to deal with and overcome. Unless we yield to that temptation and commit the sin it does not define who or what we are.

      What I would like to see is for Mr. Chambers and his team to give their situation some prayerful thought. They should look at the past 37 years and consider their failures and successes. Make no mistake about it. There were successes! Let them rethink both their approach and methods. They had the courage to launch out into a pioneer ministry going where others had not gone. They have things to learn. Understandably so! Many of us hope they will have another conference, reorganize, and make a comeback that will be a tremendous blow to the forces of darkness!

      Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill, D.D., Pentecostal Evangelist.

  8. Justice and Truth
    June 20, 2013

    Fight the good fight in Jesus Name! He is with you. I am with you all the way and in prayers. I will get others in Toronto/Canada and the US to pray for your cause which concerns all of us godly people.
    God will financially provide for Dominica and Dominicans as He has always provided in previous years and when this abomination did not surface and show its ugly face, the latter which is the work of the enemy of God and of our souls.
    As the late U.S. Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen stated on one of his programs, “We may not meet in the same pews but we will meet on our knees.” Words, to that effect. I have to search for the last correct wording.
    Homosexuals are not harassed, persecuted and prosecuted. They have the freedom to practice their abomination in the confines of their home. The government does not interfere with their personal affairs. What more do they want? What are they looking for? So that they could have a so-called gay pride parade, etc?
    Dominica could do without that and has been doing very well without it. This intrinsically evil behavior does not benefit Dominica and nationals.
    Look here homosexuals! Live your life and leave well alone. You are causing disunity and lack of peace in Dominica and among fellow Dominicans.
    My wish for you is that you turn to God and turn your life around to follow God’s way and what He wants for you. You will be happy and healthy for it.

  9. AD
    June 20, 2013

    What I do not understand is why MiriDom decided to tackle this issue, of all the issues out there, first! Momentum and respect have to be built and earned!

  10. IamHis
    June 20, 2013

    God created Adam and Eve. Not Adam and Steve or Jane and Mary. Come on all sin is sin. Himosexuality is an abomination to God. Go ahead do what you want. Steal, kill, curse, commit adultery, forication. You have a free will but that does not make it right. Let gGod be true and every man a liar.

    • Skeptic
      June 21, 2013

      Adam Eve story is not even true.

  11. listener
    June 20, 2013

    O father will you please have mercy on this beautiful country and don’t let us go down Sodom road in Jesus name amen.

    • Diva
      June 23, 2013

      AMEN… :)

  12. Views Expressed
    June 20, 2013

    I applaud the effort to condemn this dirty act of homosexuality…….I now want Pastor Rodney and his team to have a monthly public meeting to expose and condemn corruption in public office, in government. It is wrng to keep HGods people in poverty.I believe the objective of the priciple [planning of this event of this planned public meeting was to distract us concenred about corruption in government and the lack of jobs and development in Dominica. Poor people need help and are abused and are taken for granted of by this government…this is immorality…..a sin….And those who were on the platform condemning this act must themselves b aware that we know them who receive kick backs and enjoy the financial benefits for projects they are not qualified for that this act must stop. So the PM in his quick rant and rave saying I will take buggery off the books means nothing to me…..He too must be asked to account to the people of Dominica for the Buggery acts of our country`s affairs.

    • I REMEMBER
      June 21, 2013

      ‘Views Expressed”I commend your comment.Those MONEY HUNGRY,SINFUL,HYPOCITICAL PASTORS should be instead leading demonstrations condemning the waste,fraud and other very visible abuses being perpetrated against a poor and in many respect easily fooled public…that is how they might be able to redeem their black souls instead of concerning themselves in other peoples lives.They should use that same energy to condemn the abuses that some of them that call themselves “Men of the cloth”are wholly responsible for.Then and only then will they earn the respect of large segments of the society that have been totally turned off by them.

  13. %
    June 20, 2013

    Pastor Rodney and the rest of the crew. Since the demonstration will not change anything, why not call up the gay community and openly talk/discuss/dialogue biblically and otherwise with them?
    You really think demonstrating will reduce the number of gays on island? I DON’T!
    God loves them, but he hates what they do. You too show that you love them.
    BEFORE DEMONSTRATING CALL THEM UP AND DIALOGUE PLEASE. SHOW them that you love them too.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • blublu
      June 20, 2013

      yall would still have an issue if he did that

    • September 21, 2013

      A demonstration is intended to send a message to your elected officials that a significant number of voters feel strongly about someting. It is not always meant to “change” anything.

      There is no need to dialogue. Homosexuals already know where we (Christians) stand on the issue.

      If they want to talk Christian leaders are more than happy to speak with them.

      We do love them. We hate the thing that is destroying them I personally had a male friend who was became a homosexual. Yes, I said “became” bcause he had been married and had two children. Charlie contacted AIDS and committed suicide.

      Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. Pentecostal Evangelist.

  14. DON'T YOU KNOW?
    June 20, 2013

    In a democracy, there is separation of powers. It means that religious institutions shouldn’t in any way take part in the runnings of the state or judiciary . The Law is there to provide protection for all persons in the society.. “ALL” includes even those of us who are not religious and also minorities such as the homosexuals. They too have rights and these rights should be respected.So, i think that Mr.P.M should consider these before making such statements.”That buggery laws will not be repealed.” GAYS ARE TO BE PROTECTED just like any other person in Dominica. They have RIGHTS.

    • June 21, 2013

      There are people who must be restrained by laws that can be inforced otherwise they would take advantage of the freedom and turn your beautiful island into a jungle.

      You have anti-buggery laws on your books. Yet knowing full well that Dominica has these laws a gay cruise ship defied your government by daring to come to your beautiful island. In full view two sodomites gave you a free sex show by buggering each other in front of men, women, and children. But thanks to the laws the police had the legal tools to work with and were able to arrest the men. It’s because of animals like this every country needs such laws.

      Laws are not going to prevent people from sinning behind closed doors. People will continue to sin secretly. Not every act of immorality can be criminalized. Why? Because we have no way of even knowing who is doing these things, or where, or when. If they could be prosecuted the courts would be in full swing 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and there wouild be no time to try the more serious crimes. But civil governments have a responsibility to put in place the laws they consider necessary to protect the public and have an orderly society. These laws will never completely eliminate all wrong doing. But they make it possible to contain certain problems. Thanks to the laws the police are able to deal with lewd public demonstrations of immorality and vice.

      God is the one who has rights. In case you have forgotten He is the Creator, Lawgiver, and Judge. He DOES have a right to tell us how to live. God says in the Bible that homosexuality is a sin. This is in Romans 1:21-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9,10,
      1 Timothy 1:9,10, and Jude vs. 7. NOBODY has a “right” to disobey God! We all have equal rights to trust Christ, obey God, and live the abundant life that only comes through Him.

      Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. Pentecostal Evangelist.

      • H.
        June 23, 2013

        ‘a gay cruise ship defied your government by daring to come to your beautiful island’ – lol!

    • Views Expressed
      June 21, 2013

      This response is real you know – its name is “DON`T YOU KNOW”. Homosexuality act is not human, it is despicable and wrong. The act of homosexuality is “Buggery” is un natural as the anus of a human being is not made for penetration, it is for passing waste. Isn`t GOD and nature beautiful, one cant argue or change this natural fact. Jesus went to the market and ause a disturbance by throwing material things to the ground, he was upset, he was human so religious principles and philosophy are appropriate so it has a place in our society. Who do you want to give morale guidance, our corrupt leaders in Dominica? You must be joking or you are totally absent to what is happening in Dominica. This country is in a mess and so it have been since dimples policy has been installed, it is a distraction and killing us Dominicans.

    • September 21, 2013

      Nobody is denying that homosexuals are entitled to protection. 8)

      We believe that there should be laws forbidding certain behavior. We also believe that all people should be protected from abuse or violence. There is absolutely no contradiction between these two positions. They are one and the same. 8-O

      A genuine Christian would be the first one to go to the help of a homosexual if he (she) was being
      threatened or beat up :!: We hope they would do the same for us.

      Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. Pentecostal Evangelist. :lol:

  15. john
    June 20, 2013

    If they repeal the law Dominica will be flooded with buggers from California bringing AIDS.

    • Anonymous
      June 21, 2013

      Lack of education, yak!!!!!!

    • Wale
      June 23, 2013

      What make u think they want to come to Da with all u attitudes? Domincia have plenty AIDS from hetero-sexual people, doh go and blame ‘buggers from California’.

    • BE FAIR!!
      June 26, 2013

      Ignorant fool, why would they leave where they are somewhat accepted and want to come a country with people like you in it???? common sense! #idiot

  16. roger
    June 20, 2013

    Evangelical group closes shop, apologizes for saying homosexuality can be ‘cured’

    A U.S. evangelical Christian group that believed that homosexuality could be “cured” has issued an apology and is shutting its doors.

    Exodus International announced its closing late Wednesday, saying its board of directors had made the decision “after a year of dialogue and prayer about the organization’s place in a changing culture.”

    The move came on the heels of an apology by president Alan Chambers, who said the movement was misguided and even harmful.

    “I am sorry that some of you spent years working through the shame and guilt you felt when your attractions didn’t change,” he wrote on Wednesday. “I am sorry we promoted sexual orientation change efforts and reparative theories about sexual orientation that stigmatized parents. I am sorry that there were times I didn’t stand up to people publicly ‘on my side’ who called you names like sodomite – or worse.”

    While Exodus International will close after 37 years, the board of directors plans to begin a new ministry and has set up a website called reducefear.org, though it did not release any details about the venture.

    Exodus International’s apology and closing are not entirely unexpected. Last summer, Mr. Chambers publicly disowned some of the so-called ex-gay movement’s key principles, saying there was no cure for homosexuality and that gay reparative therapy offered false hopes and could be harmful, The New York Times reported. The statements led to a growing schism and several ministries defected, the paper reported.

    Last month, Exodus International withdrew from Exodus Global Alliance, a network of ministries focused on homosexuality. The coalition, which has a Canadian office in Ajax, Ont., continues to maintain that gay and lesbians can “overcome their homosexuality.”

    “This change in relationship between Exodus International and Exodus Global Alliance releases both ministries to serve the Lord, the church and the people impacted by homosexuality according to each ministry’s specific calling,” says a note on Exodus Global Alliance’s website.

    In his apology, Mr. Chambers says many people who sought help from Exodus-affiliated ministries instead experienced “more trauma,” including “shame, sexual misconduct, and false hope.”

    “In every case that has been brought to my attention, there has been swift action resulting in the removal of these leaders and/or their organizations. But rarely was there an apology or a public acknowledgment by me,” he wrote.

    Mr. Chambers, who is married to a woman, said “there were several years that I conveniently omitted my ongoing same-sex attractions.”

    “Looking back, it seems so odd that I thought I could do something to make them stop,” he writes. “Today, however, I accept these feelings as parts of my life that will likely always be there. The days of feeling shame over being human in that way are long over, and I feel free simply accepting myself as my wife and family does.”

    Despite his apology, Mr. Chambers says he still believes homosexuality is a sin.

    “I cannot apologize for my deeply held biblical beliefs about the boundaries I see in scripture surrounding sex, but I will exercise my beliefs with great care and respect for those who do not share them,” he writes. “I cannot apologize for my beliefs about marriage. But I do not have any desire to fight you on your beliefs or the rights that you seek.”

  17. no wespay e may
    June 20, 2013

    I want Pastor Rodney to keep a public meeting in Lagoon on “adultery and how it affects married couples”.

    Since he gave such a “lovely” speech on homosexuality in lagoon. I want this to be his next topic.

    • Neutral
      June 20, 2013

      I agree with you a 100%. Dominica is not a country that truly puts God at the center of its culture otherwise the pastors would be addressing all the murders and all the other ungodly acts going on in Dominica.

    • June 24, 2013

      Men and women are not coming in on a cruise ship and giving you a sex show by committing adultery in full view of men, women and children. This kind of behaviour is more prevalent among homosexuals.

      You don’t have schools in Dominica teaching courses to 14 year old students on adultery, telling them that it is a viable alternative to marital fidelity, and a beautiful experience for those are who are so inclined.

      Have you ever had a case in Dominica where an adulteress was brought into a school assembly to tell the students about the normality and joy of extra-marital sex?

      Adultery is obviously a sin. But even those who are guilty are not saying it is O.K. They are not promoting an acceptance of it in the schools.

      Have you ever heard of civil rights groups threatening to charge a clergy person with “hate speach” for preaching against adultery?

      Adultery is wrong, wrong, wrong! But it is not the CURRENT sin. Homosexuals made homosexuality an issue by not only defending it but by promoting it even at the elementary school level. They are dong this in ways hetrosexuals would never do with normal man-woman sexuality. So some of you need to stop saying these folish things about adultery and fornication also being sins, and asking why church leaders don’t preach against these things.

      Yes, adultery, and fornication, are also sins and so are many other things. But these other sins are not where the current in-our-face attack is coming from.

      In Canada as I write we have schools teaching courses to 14 year old students on lesbianism. A school had a lesbian speak to the school assembly on the joys of woman-to-woman sex. Our clergy have been threatened by civil rights groups and told they can be charged with “hate” speach if they preach against homosexuality. These are true cases and events I am referring you to! Thank God you don’t have these problems in Dominia. Why? Because your wise PM and his government have kept laws in place to protect the nation from this militant onslaught. For the sake of your country and future generations please keep the laws on the books. You can help to do this by keeping a PM and government in place who are committed to righteouness. At this time it looks like this is what the majority of Dominicans want. Praise the Lord!

      Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. Pentecostal Evangelist.

  18. 971dada
    June 20, 2013

    One of the reasons why Dominicans will allwayse stay behind , they close minded and looking into the neighbours pot and forgeting to look into his own ..i remember when i was young and in problem looking to figure out where to turn my parents brought me to the pirestfor prayer .. what hapened behind close doors disturbed me even more caused me to leave dominica without comeing back. they speak openly about homosexuality but they them selves do in behind close doors. as we say in french …LA NUIT LES CHATS SONT GRIS …THAT means at night cats are grey …it is realy sad to see that people a condeming others and they them selves a worse .. if the law is good for one it is goos for all homosexuality or buggery are the least thaing that could be considered as a crime because i bellive that parents molesting thair children ..sex abuse on adolesents by religous leaders .. murdeur and so on ..and when it comes to the bible let god be the judge stop relating scriptures this has nothing to do with polituque … remember dominica is a very small country dominicans should learn to live and rispect prople thow mater who they are ..cause with such mentalites we can never survive ..leaving dominica going to a metropole where homosexuality is acpted i could be in prison for 10 years for calling someone homosexual ..dominicans should more think on going out there doing goos studies and come back home to build thair country not bring it down …

    • roger
      June 20, 2013

      (CNN) — After 37 years, Exodus International, an organization whose mission was to “help” gay Christians become straight, is shutting down. But not before issuing an apology.

      “We’re not negating the ways God used Exodus to positively affect thousands of people, but a new generation of Christians is looking for change — and they want to be heard,” Tony Moore, an Exodus board member, said Wednesday.

      The announcement comes less than a day after Exodus issued a wide-ranging apology to the gay community for “years of undue judgment by the organization and the Christian Church as a whole,” a statement from the group says.

      “Exodus is an institution in the conservative Christian world, but we’ve ceased to be a living, breathing organism,” said Alan Chambers, the president of Exodus. “For quite some time, we’ve been imprisoned in a worldview that’s neither honoring toward our fellow human beings, nor biblical.”

      Chambers, who has a wife and children and previously identified as gay, has acknowledged that he has “ongoing same-sex attractions.”

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      “It is strange to be someone who has both been hurt by the Church’s treatment of the LGBTQ community, and also to be someone who must apologize for being part of the very system of ignorance that perpetuated that hurt,” Chambers said. “Today it is as if I’ve just woken up to a greater sense of how painful it is to be a sinner in the hands of an angry church.”

      LGBTQ stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning.

      California law banning gay ‘conversion therapy’ put on hold

      New focus on a therapy

      Exodus, which has promoted “freedom from homosexuality through the power of Jesus Christ,” has de-emphasized conversion therapy in recent years as more of the counselors in its network have abandoned the practice

  19. De Marine
    June 20, 2013

    mr. felix,”no law no costitution”dominicans to free” where labour party get their money is none of your damn business,go to hell..go to hell” villas,bin borbol,fertilizer bin borbol,million dollar home,94 thousan dollar duty free black infinity,dominica passport/citizenship fiasco,buggery..weigh them out examine them..let me hear your take on these burning issues too.

    • roger
      June 20, 2013

      true

    • listener
      June 20, 2013

      Burning issues you said? These issues were all thrown out of the window remember! funny that they’re still burning you.stupesssss.

  20. Cza
    June 20, 2013

    U know it have alot of gays that bold so what if one try an make a break behind u and he gets knocked out. Or in turn d gay knock u out Llooll it have gays tha strong to eno lol

  21. Cza
    June 20, 2013

    Mann u know how much of abuse the gay man der will get if tha get to be legal. Ok what will police do for them if them cops are against it also……………

  22. Cza
    June 20, 2013

    Lllllooooooooolllllllll

  23. one stone
    June 20, 2013

    there is way too many old people(age wise),in DA who do like our slave owners used to do and that is to always throw the bible in your face any time you try to question anybody or anything,a bunch of hypocrites.

  24. De Marine
    June 20, 2013

    Hehehe!very ironic eh!According to mr.Felix Thomas
    “every abominable and corrupt act must remain as a crime in this country.”He is shouting out against the abominable acts but my desire is to also see him come forward and chant down the corrupt acts that exist at the highest offices in our land!

  25. Anonymous
    June 20, 2013

    if everybody becomes gay and children vanish imagine the earth when every one gets old and die are we ending gods creation
    ?

    • roger
      June 20, 2013

      Why do Christians hate homosexuals (but not shellfish-eaters)?

      There’s a recent post at The Atheist Ethicist, The Source of Hatred, where Alonzo explores the question of why theists hate homosexuals.

      According to him, religion is not the cause. It’s the excuse. It’s what bigots use to rationalize their bigotry: “the Bible says it’s an abomination.”

      But… Leviticus also says that eating shellfish is an abomination! Yet most Christians probably eat shrimp, and, anyway, there was never any persecution of shellfish-eaters. Why is that? Why is one sentence taken as “God’s law”, and another just as “ancient dietary laws”, when they’re both forbidden in the same book, and the condemnation for both (“abomination”) is the same?

      The answer, of course, is that people are already bigots (though an important source of that bigotry may well be church sermons). Saying “It’s God’s command” instead of admitting to their prejudice makes them feel better.

      I loved this part in the article:

      If biblical prohibition were the real source of condemnation, we would find ourselves in a society where shellfish eaters and bankers would be prohibited from participating in youth organizations like the Boy Scouts. Those who insist on such a ban would argue that those who so flagrantly violate God’s law cannot possibly be moral, and clearly cannot be considered good role models for our children.

      What type of message does it give our children to be a member of a troop whose troop leader is known to be a practicing shellfish eater or banker – when the Bible so clearly identifies these acts as a violation of His law? These children will no doubt come to think that all of God’s law are open to question. This type of moral relativism is the last thing that we need to be teaching impressionable young minds.

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      • June 20, 2013

        This person really sounds out of his mind. Don’t you think?

      • Read your Bible
        June 20, 2013

        1 Timothy 4:1-5

        4 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.

        Romans 14:14-23

        14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.

        19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.

        22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.[a]

    • Anonymous
      June 23, 2013

      Might be a good thing, the world over populated already

  26. REDMAN
    June 20, 2013

    So it seems like we prefer to live by the laws of man rahter the laws of the creater. We will see the kind of Country we will get if we ever let these imorality strive if our GOD fearing country.

    • Just Saying
      June 20, 2013

      LMAO! OMG … I really can’t stop laughing. God fearing country, you say? We will see the kind of country we will get, you say. @ Redman – padner, you should be comedian. I’d buy your DVDs and come to to your performance. Too funny! Hahaha – God fearing country …

    • T
      June 20, 2013

      This country is not God fearing. Can’t you remember a politician called another politician Jesus? Were you hibernating at this time? There was no condemnation except by the opposition.

  27. alas
    June 20, 2013

    I hope the repealing of this law doesn’t increase the leveel of crime here. In a country like ours where these people are stoned and beaten, why allow them to publicly display the habits? My opinion is, it will cause an uproar and increase the crime rate. This is really sad

    • Anonymous
      June 23, 2013

      The questions is- why are they stoned and beaten? They not hurting anybody, what consenting adults do is their business.

    • BE FAIR!!
      June 26, 2013

      imbecile, the gays men will never be stupid enough to actually show affection in public, thats like begging for a beating. The repealing of the laws will not increase the crime rate because there will be NO increase in public homosexual affection. Do you own a brain?

  28. hope
    June 20, 2013

    Sir, the prime minister has made himself clear ….. what are we making noise about? We should be rejoicing that our prime minister took that stand. Let us go into our closets and pray.

    Yes, I am a Christian.

    • June 20, 2013

      i thought the PM said we not going down that road?
      WHATS ALL THE HOOPLAH ABOUT!!

      • winston warrington
        June 20, 2013

        I don’t get it either. Ignorant preachers lead their sheep to demonstrate against an idea that’s supported by no authority. In Grandbay, the flock is telling the Shepherd to back down. And he does!
        What can I tell you about Dominicans.

  29. Jay
    June 20, 2013

    Pastor Rodney, you are entitled to your opinion and express it. Go and have your demonstration on a day a cruise ship is in port. That will have maximum effect, trust me. Wouldn’t that put Hon. Douglas in a bind? On the one hand he is the Minster for Legal Affairs and must uphold your right of freedom of expression but on the other hand has to stimulate tourism. How is he going to manage that?

  30. Not a herd follower
    June 20, 2013

    I do not believe the preachers/pastors know what they condemn or seek to persecute. They equate buggery with homosexuality. But it is a fact that not all homosexual men engage in buggery. Furthermore, there are married heterosexual men who engage in buggery or anal sex with their wives. Should they not be they be equally condemned and persecuted? Should not brimstone and fire be preached on their heads?

    I agree with those bloggers who say the pastors are cherrymaking. They are not interested in demonstrating against adultery, corruption in government, child abuse, and the other ills in society. But their focus is on buggery and homosexual relations that are practiced by consenting adults with no harm to others. Sex really do excite people, including those who parade themselves as the messenagers of God.

    • June 20, 2013

      To think about buggery is one,to imagine people doing it is another,but to enforce the law in favor of it,is degrading. I say no way.

    • PAX
      June 20, 2013

      WELL SAID

    • Anonymous
      June 23, 2013

      Well said!

  31. Muslim_Always
    June 20, 2013

    According to the Qur’an, Lot was a prophet and a nephew of Abraham. A group of angels visited Abraham as guests and gave him glad tidings of a son “endowed with wisdom”; they told him that they had been sent by God to the “guilty people” of Lot to destroy them with “a shower of stones of clay” and deliver Lot and those who believed in him, except his wife saying “she is of those who lag behind”. The Qur’an also draws upon Lot’s wife as an “example for the unbelievers” as she was married to a righteous man but cheated him by not believing in his message and was thus condemned to Hell.

    The people of Sodom and Gomorrah, the twin cities which Lot was sent to with God’s message, transgressed consciously against the bounds of God. Their avarice led to lack of hospitality and robbery, which in turn led to the humiliation of strangers by mistreatment and rape. It was their abominable sin of homosexuality which was seen as symptomatic of their attitudes, and upon Lot’s exhorting them to abandon their transgression against God, they ridiculed him, threatening with dire consequences;[20] Lot only prayed to God to be saved from doing as they did.

    Then two angels in the disguise of handsome young boys came to Lot, who became distressed knowing the character of the people, and feeling himself powerless to protect the visitors; he said, “This is a distressful day.” When the people – overjoyed at the news of new young boys in the village – came to snatch them away from Lot, he tried to convince them to refrain from practicing their lusts on the visitors, and offered his own daughters to them in return for the boys’ free release, but they were unrelenting and replied “we have no need of your daughters: indeed you know quite well what we want!” The Qur’an remarks “they moved blindly in the frenzy of approaching death”.

    Lot was powerless to protect the boys, but they revealed to him that they were indeed angels sent by God to punish the people for their transgressions. They advised Lot to leave the place during the night and not look back, informing him that his wife would be left behind on account of her sinful nature and that they “were about to bring down upon the folk of this township a fury from the sky because they are evil-doers”. Keeping his faith in God, Lot left his home and the cities during the night with his family and others who believed in him, and only his wife stayed behind. When morning came, God turned the cities upside down, and rained down on them stones hard as baked clay, putting an end to the lives of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah once and for all.

    • no wespay e may
      June 20, 2013

      @muslim_always – I wonder why all u muslim men wear dresses. hmmmmmmmmm

      • Muslim_Always
        June 20, 2013

        Did Jesus Christ peace be upon him wear jeans or pants? We don’t wear a “dress” we wear gowns and they are distinct for Muslim men.

        The women wear jilbabs where there are distinctions in the style/patterns.

        May Allah guide your heart to Islam. Ameen.

        Please look into Islam @ http://www.islamreligion.com

      • Jay
        June 20, 2013

        And women wear a mask? Maybe because underneath they are men?

      • piti woche
        June 20, 2013

        I wish them demon-straters would stop being holier than God and leave the gays to live their lives as their Creator intended.

      • piti woche
        June 20, 2013

        Is not dress they wear is nightie.

    • bible man
      June 21, 2013

      that’s a little too close to the bible, my boy ..just read the bible instead,it’s the original.

  32. SORRY
    June 20, 2013

    Most of those Pastors who are crying and shouting about GUYS their sins,bringing judgement against people of the world are themselves engaging in the act secretly when the RORO is out cat swallow their tongue and they paying big money under the table to cover up that is the person’s body and they can do as they please with it. These so called Pastors need to take a look at the young people and be LEADERS for their cause GUYS is a minority to what is going on in the country Mr Pastor you are just interested in your 10% of every one salary at the end of the month

    • roger
      June 20, 2013

      The Bible does not say that God hates gays. What it says is that it is wrong for men to have sex with men and women to have sex with women. BTW the Bible also says that God loves people.

      The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When a person continues in sin and disbelief, the Bible tells us that God “gives them over” to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.

      Some people say that God does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that a person acts in a homosexual way because of sin (Romans 1:24-27), and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person choosing to sin by giving into their sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger / rage, does that make it right for then to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true for homosexuality.

      Other people say that God does create a person with homosexual desires. They point to the fact that Jonathan loved David (1 Samuel 18:1) and Jesus loved Lazarus (John 11:3, 36) and John (John 20:2) in a non-sexual way.

      However, the Bible does not describe homosexuality as a “greater” sin than any other. All sin is offensive to God. Homosexuality is just one of the many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that will keep a person from the kingdom of God. According to the Bible, God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, thief, etc. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17).

      Some people claim that the Bible’s condemnation of homosexuality does not apply today any more than the Bible’s acceptance of slavery applies today.

      No father hates his children… but a father can hate what his children do in ignorance.

      “Thou shalt not do so unto the Lord thy God: for every abomination to the Lord, which He hateth, have they done unto their gods… What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.” (Deut.12:31-32)

      “…Oh, do not this abominable thing that I hate.” (Jer.44:4)

      “Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the Lord, the God of hosts, shall be with you… Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the Lord God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph.” (Amos 5:14-15)

    • roger
      June 20, 2013

      Bahamas Bishop says must be some gay closet Pastors…
      Founder January 3, 2013 2

      Bishop-Simeon-Hall2An evangelical religious leader in the Bahamas has apparently softened his stance on the LGBT community, criticizing peers for the type of anti-gay comments he himself used to espouse.

      Bishop Simeon Hall, the former leader of the New Covenant Baptist Church and ex-president of the Bahamas Christian Council, accused church leaders of focusing negative attention on the LGBT community while ignoring other more important issues like gambling addiction, according to The Tribune.

      “The demonization of homosexuals by some pastors is the greatest hindrance to any positive dialogue or efforts the church might establish with them,” Hall said in a press statement. “The Bahamian public in general, as well as pastors in particular, must be careful of what we demonize and protest.”

      Hall added that pastors who focus wholly on the issue of homosexuality may have ulterior motivations.

      “I also believe that of the 133 sins listed in the Bible,” he said, “if a pastor can only preach on one of them it could very well be that he has that problem – if not in practice then perhaps dormantly.”

      Hall’s comments might surprise people familiar with the pastor, who last year said gays and lesbians were engaging in a “non-productive and deadly practice,” according to the Tribune.

      Hall was speaking in the context of the rising rate HIV/AIDS in the island nation, but ThinkProgress pointed out that while the virus is prevalent in the Bahamas, it “occurs primarily among heterosexuals.”

      In April, Hall blamed “drugs, gambling, alcoholism and the decay of the family structure” for the “crime crisis” in the country, the Nassau Guardian reported at the time.

      As a recent Nassau Guardian article notes, Hall said evangelicals must maintain an attitude of inclusivity if they wish to truly reach out to the those in need.

      “If the Christian church is to reach the un-church as our Lord commands, then, without changing our message we must change our methods and affirm our common humanity with all persons,” he said.

      Gay Star News notes that while gays can serve openly in the Bahamas military, they cannot marry. Hall’s Bahamas Christian Council has threatened to bring criminal charges against pastors who attempt to perform same-sex marriage ceremonies, according to the report.

      Watch a previous news report about Bishop Simeon Hall

      • Anonymous
        June 28, 2013

        Roger: I may not always agree with every opinion you express but you do a tremendous job of giving us news and information that I personally have missed from regular news sources. I realize a great amount work goes into this and I want to thank you.

        I also appreciate DNO for accepting my comments since I am not a Dominican, and live in Canada. Fair to say, I have made six trips to the Caribbean, staying as long as sixteen weeks on one trip, and have ministered on four of the islands. The Caribbean people showed me every kindness. I could not speak highly enough of them and our Canadian folks know this is true.

        Evangelical pastors know homosexuality is not the only sin mentioned in the Bible. Those who attend our churches and sit in the pews week after week know they are cautioned against many (if not all) of the other sins. My wife and I are faithful members of a large Pentecostal Church in Canada with approx 700 people in attendance every Sunday morning, PLUS a Sunday evening service. I am an evangelist and must be away some Sundays preaching in other churches. But when I am not serving somewhere else we are ALWAYS in that our home church sitting on the front row BOTH Sunday morning and Sunday evening. I can tell you this. We hear MANY sins preached against including fornication and adultery but more so sins like pride, and jealousy, greed, and hate. But to be honest I do not think I have heard homosexuality mentioned more than once in the past year.

        At this time in Dominica pastors may be preaching more often than they otherwise would against homosexuality because it is CURRENTLY a political issue. Some of the church leaders have felt it called for a public demonstration at this time. Jesus said in Matthew 5:13,14, we are to be the salt of the earth (preventing corruption) and the light of the world (dispelling darkness) so these ministers are acting within their calling. I am not a Dominican but if I was in Dominica at the time I would stand with them to show my support in principle.

        We do not advocate using unkind words or bad language against homosexuals. Even more so we oppose all acts of violence against homosexuals. These things are as bad – maybe worse – than the act of buggery and sodomy itself. After prayer we believe our approach should be to provide Biblical and scientific information on the subject for our governments and the public to consider.

        Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. Pentecostal Evangelist. http://www.livinghopeministries.ca

  33. Rod Knee
    June 20, 2013

    What are you protesting? The definition of the buggery law indicates that “The section is very imprecise and could incorporate anal sex between a man and his wife as well as between two men, a man and a woman and under the definition which extends to bestiality, a man and an animal,” . That means you cannot do it with your wife.

  34. gaynproud
    June 20, 2013

    Rodney that statement is by far the most ignorant and uneducated one you have made. ““We don’t want that kind of aid because we will get AIDS…”.. News flash we already have AIDS so best we take de AID.

    • what!
      June 20, 2013

      lol

    • Not a herd follower
      June 20, 2013

      lol. Rodney and others in that instance are burying their heads in the sand, a favourite posture of many in Dominica.

  35. comment
    June 20, 2013

    interesting how many decades or centuries should pass before you become civilized and realize that people are different? why all of a sudden you all talk about buggery…you have sooooo many other problems like increasing poverty, unemployment, lack of foreign investment (not concessional loans or grant but direct investments), absence of normal medicine and many more you name it…

    • September 26, 2014

      These problems you have mentioned have been caused by
      the sins we are preaching against.

      Obedience brings blessing and prosperity.

      Disobedience brings cursing and poverty.

      You cannot ignore God’s laws and trample upon His commandments and do well as a people. God said if you refuse to honor His moral code you would be the tail and not the head. You would borrow and not lend.

      Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. International Evangelist.

  36. Observer
    June 20, 2013

    WELL FED UP, LET US STAY FAR BEHIND IF IT MEAN STANDING UP FOR OUR INTEGRITY.

    Dominica let’s be a fool for God rather than submitting to the SICK WILL of these 1st world countries.

    Homosexuality is an abomination unto God. Imagine He destroyed a whole city because of homosexuality.

    Stop interpreting the bible for your own lustful pleasures and face the facts that God created ADAM and EVE not ADAM and STEVE nor EVE and EVA.

    We love you but we hate the sin (homosexuality). All sin is sin in God’s sight that’s so very true and I support that a hundred percent but when the sin of homosexuality went up into God’s nostril the bible says He DESTROYED the ENTIRE city.

    IF WE FORGET GOD, OUR LOVELY DOMINICA, ISLE OF BEAUTY, and the NATURE ISLE OF THE CARIBBEAN WILL BE DOOMED.

    • joebob
      June 20, 2013

      Where in the bible have you read that? i would really love that scripture reading please

      • July 30, 2013

        There are many places in the Bible that warn us of God`s punishment on those who commit homosexual acts.

        Verses that show how God punishes geographical localities are 2 Peter 2:6 and Jude verse 7. These scriptures clearly tell us that what happened to Sodom and Gomorrha is an EXAMPLE for other places where homosexuality is accepted as normal and practiced with no restraints.

        Scriptures that warn individuals of the judgment of God upon them if they continue in the sin of homosexuality are Romans 1:26-28, with verse 32, 1 Corinthins 6:9,10, and 1 Timothy 1:9,10.

        It should also be understood that the word FORNICATION in the New Testament is translated from a Greek word that means illicit sexual behavior. It includes sex between a man and woman who are not married, and adultery when either the man or woman or both are married to somebody else, or HOMOSEXUALITY which is the same sex relationship, and beastility which is sex with an animal. The word fornicaton is used many times in the New Testament such as in Galatians 5:19-21 where it says `… they that do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.`

        All is not gloom and doom! There is good news. Those who repent of their sins according to Acts 3:19 and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as in Acts 16:31, and Romans 5:1 will be cleansed from ALL their sins according to 1 John 1:7. When Paul wrote to the church in the city of Corinth he recognized that former homosexuals were members of the church in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. He said in verse 11 `And such WERE some of you: but ye are washed, …`

        Hope this has been some help.

        Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. Pentecostal Evangelist.

    • Gary
      June 20, 2013

      This clearly shows an example of what religion can do to the the mind of a person, very sad indeed.

      • September 26, 2014

        Was it religion that brought Russia to the brink of ruin? Was religion responsible for the fact that their store shelves were empty? That thousands upon thousands of people – especially the elderly – were living in cold rooming houses without food or medicine? No! these things are the fruits of godless communism. It was Christian ministries flooding into Russia after the collapse of communism that brought the first rays of light to that nation since the revolution.

        Is it religion that is filling the jails?

        Is it religion that is to blame for the fact that America says it is losing the war on drugs?

        Some of the most effective criminal rehabilitation work in the world is being done by Christian ministries.

        The American Government (under Ronald Regan) said the most successful drug rehabilitation program in the U.S.A. is TEEN CHALLENGE – a Christian ministry founded by Rev. David Wilkerson – a Pentecostal pastor – in the 1950s that is now world wide and scoring an 80% success rate.

        It is atheism that built orphanages, schools, and hospitals?

        It is atheism that is digging wells, providing feeding stations, setting up clinics, and treating lepers in poverty stricken African nations, and throughout India?

        Jesus said a tree will be known by the fruit it bears. A good tree will bring forth good fruit. A bad tree will bring forth bad fruit.

        Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. International Evangelist.

    • PAX
      June 20, 2013

      homosexuality was the only wrong going on in that city? read your bible again, did God burn it down only because of homosexuality?

    • Anonymous
      June 20, 2013

      God also created Hitler so your analogy is flawed.

  37. DC
    June 20, 2013

    My previous comment posted prematurely. These church Leaders have failed in their duties to emulate christ exemplary life. They are more interested in attaining riches. I would never be a part of this demonstration. The PM has made it clear that the law stands, so why this hoopla? There are children crying out silently, please champion another cause Leaders!

  38. Proud
    June 20, 2013

    Let God be the judge of ALL sin. Tose so called PASTORS need to remember sin is sin and God does not judge sin by category or size. Stop being the instigators of a ‘WITCH HUNT’ in Dominica. Everyone of us knows someone or is the relative of someone who is GAY. Isn’t infidelity a sin??? Isn’t lying a sin????? What about their gossiping and back biting??? What about those pastors who have obviously turned the church into a business house? Wake up my people let us go back and remember the ten commandments of our Heavenly Father.

  39. DC
    June 20, 2013

    Rather baffling! Why not a demonstration against child molestation, violence against women, promiscuity, all immoral acts? These Leaders need to put these ills on the front burner. Mr. Rodney, you are s hypocrite, as a church leader, you have made politics your platform. How can you generalize the source of the AIDS epidemic? Many people have multiple sex partners, they engage in heterosexual anal sex unprotected. Stop targeting the homosexuals, snf show that you ste

  40. Lil Blue
    June 20, 2013

    Seriously guys this is a new era
    Please get with the program
    Where are u people living other
    Countries are getting it

    • September 26, 2014

      Other countries are getting it?

      In other countries their AIDS rate is increasing.

      Their suicide rate is increasing.

      Their dug addiction is increasing.

      They are getting what? That it should be legal for men to
      bugger men? Oh, of course. We all know that would make you better people.

      Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. International Evangelist.

      be legal for men to bugger men? Oh, I see …

  41. No name no warrant
    June 20, 2013

    Dominicans do not have better things to do with their time?

  42. Skeptic
    June 20, 2013

    “We don’t want that kind of aid because we will get AIDS…”….yes cause only AIDS only affects homosexuals, and what does aid have to with the incidence of HIV. The level of ignorance in Dominica is appalling, especially by these men who sadly seem to have influence on others who are just a ignorant as them. “Every abominable and corrupt act must remain as a crime in this country.” In that case why isn’t slavery permissible in Dominica or why formation isn’t prohibited by law? These are acts that are advocated for and against in the bible, respectively. Only homosexuality counts as an abomination. With the laws on the book? What does it even really mean, does it take into account heterosexual couples. All these are things that people fail to consider, even after Mr. Alkyne’s talk. Sad that is even an issue in this era.

  43. wrong is wrong....
    June 20, 2013

    Its rather interested that Pastor Rodney can say “It doesn’t matter what promise they make that if we don’t decriminalize it that they will stop whatever aid,” he pointed out. “We don’t want that kind of aid because we will get AIDS…”

    My question to the pastor is…..since when AIDS is transmitted from getting aid from another country.

    Why isn’t the pastors all pointing fingers or planing to protest but don’t want to point fingers at the people who are deacons or more so the pastors that are married and sleeping with other women in the church and some of them sleeping with men also…
    8-O 8-O I know for a fact there is one pastor who is married and has a kid or two but sleeping with a few of the young men in DA and more so he will buy them stuff so he can get them to bed. :( :( I CAN SURELY BRING OUT THE FACTS.

    Why isn’t they planning a protest to deal with all the members in the choir stand that are married also and sleeping with both man and woman. If we want to protest against one wrong why dont we protest about all wrong that’s happening….and more so try to correct the wrong that happen in the churchs.

    The same said pastors that want to protest about the gays but they are the same pastors that want to make sure the gays pay there dues in church… am if they gay why you still accepting there money?? The same pastors that doing it…have there daughters sleeping with half the men in the church and not saying that is wrong….

    How about you guys clean up your back yard before you try to come after the gays in DA…..

  44. from a distance
    June 20, 2013

    This is completely shameful. First of all – buggery is anal sex. So all of you having anal sex should be punished.
    Homosexuality is not a disease – you don’t catch “the gay”- AIDS is passed on even more commonly now due to lack of condom use, awareness, education and here’s a bit of news it even occurs between heterosexual couples – i would say even more so then homosexual couples. Also – how does ones sexual preference change your life in any way?
    Dominica without aid money will not progress, it is unfortunate, but it is true. If you also want to be more mindful as to which aid you are receiving – maybe you should be asking why is China investing so much in Dominica? Dominica was home to me for a while and it’s a beautiful island, but it’s these laws and people’s mindset (pick and choose what you want to believe from the bible) that is deterring people from coming back and making people want to leave the island. Instead of focusing on people’s sexual preferences and positions – why don’t we focus on the issues at hand: Transactional sex, incest, school drop outs, juveniles being incarcerated in the state prison with adults, the education system, unemployment, shall i go on?

  45. Doc.Love
    June 20, 2013

    I was not present at the meeting ,therefore ,I am not sure if the elder Felix Thomas you are referring to is the same man who is associated to the Skerrit labor Party and Government. Did he really say that,”every abominable and corrupt act must remain as a crime in this country,”If this is the same gentlemen,isn’t their some inconsistencies in what he believes or stands for. I have never heard him voiced a denial as regards the many allegations being thrown against the Skerrit Labor Government in terms of the blatant in your face corruption.I have never heard him called the talks shows especially Q95 in defence of this Government against the barrage of criticisms concerning the governance of the country. Felix must be aware of the raping of the constitution of Dominica.He throws those problems Dominicans have to deal with on a daily basis in the gabbage bins and comes up with his pious deception.You must be honest,Sir.If you want to talk about the wrong things in Dominica, their must not be any boundaries,you cannot cherrypick.

    • De Marine
      June 20, 2013

      Doc.Love,solid truth!i couldnt agree with you more.I Vociferously and vehemently concur!!!

  46. Big MAN
    June 20, 2013

    Oh i am waiting for that day to match with my big placard. people are just too nasty. Can u believe animals don’t hump male to male female to female and human beings do. Jusy money, money, money and more money. Sooner all that will not be enough to pay for the amount of aids victims caused by buggering alone. Thanks pastor for the innitiative.

    • Malgraysa
      June 20, 2013

      Big Man, maybe you did not grow up in the country side like most of us. You would be familiar with seeing one cow climbing on the back of another. You think that is so she can see if the grass is greener further down the savanah?

    • BE FAIR!!
      June 26, 2013

      How ignorant are you? my GOD! You cannot even use the correct word which is “march” not match. For the record, a lot of animals (dogs especially participate in male/male and female/female humping, albeit not the same reason as human beings, but it does happen, so make yourself sound like a DUMB***

  47. ELIYAH
    June 20, 2013

    Children of the Lord versus Children of the Lord. Yahweh has declared this act to be an abomination. The same people who stole his word (the set apart scriptures) and gave it to the Lord are the same people changing those laws to allow the things which Elohim hates–But as it is written so it must come to pass –that as it was in the days of Noah and in the days of LOT (Sodom and Gomorrha) so shall it be at the coming of Yahshua (read Luke 17:28). Read Genesis to learn more of “The days of Lot” Yahweh’s people will teach others to stand against this practice yet we understand that the Children of God (Theos) will succeed in passing those laws….for it is written concerning them. Where do they marry?-in a church before ministers of God. Whatever they do, We, the people of Yahweh, and our households and our friends rejects this practice and stand immoveable against it. Come out of her my people–come out of her religion, her practices, her glamour and her rewards–that ye be not partakers of her plagues.

  48. hmmm
    June 20, 2013

    its people like you that want to see Dominica far behind. damn stupid! no repealing of the buggery law chupes man. get with the %*$0 program

  49. Freethinker
    June 20, 2013

    While I am against donor countries trying to force other countries to do this or do that–this is simply another form of imperialism, after all–I am nonetheless saddened that, in an age when so many of us have Internet access to read DNO and leave comments, we choose not to educate ourselves about the issues but simply to repeat what we already think we know. Why is everything bible this, bible that? Why not do some hardcore research on the history of the bible and the history of gay rights and homosexuality in and beyond humans before making your comments?

    Why do we resist learning more, even with so much knowledge on the Internet at our fingertips?

  50. CYRIL FRANCIS
    June 20, 2013

    why should there be a gay rights? what you think god would say about this?.i can tell you gay is a life stile ; just like the man who smokes drug ; that is his or her doing and should not have to do with a whole nation ; i think the gayman should asked of god for his right and not man’ in life one is free to do what ever he or she to do whatever they want and not nobodys business. if you gay you gay . and thats you ????????

    • June 20, 2013

      There is NO “gay rights.” Agreed, it is a lifestyle, NOT a right. Everyone is really entitled to his or her opinion and his or her right, but the right that is talked about is NOT ONE. If the laws of the land should be re-written to include that so-called RIGHT then it should be re-written to include MOLESTATION, INCEST, ABUSE of any kind. I agree with you, you choose to live that lifestyle that is your prerogative, but to ask people to support that lifestyle is out of the question.

      • john
        June 20, 2013

        Is adultry a sin? then why there is no law
        on the books that criminalizes adultry, where
        is the outcry about married men with all these
        children all over the place without any support.
        How many of the young people in jail are from
        a two parent household? there are many problems
        to solve than to demonstrate against what grown people do in the privacy of their home. Let God be the judge,as God says he who is without sin
        cast the first stone.

  51. shy
    June 20, 2013

    The issue is about gay right now not adultry so our focus is on gay,when it’s about adultry then our focus will be on adultry.One at a time man.I say no gay in dominica,i don’t want god to turn his back on us………….

    • June 20, 2013

      God is not going to turn his back on us because people are gay. I think if he has to turn his back he will do that to those in that profession.

    • observing
      June 20, 2013

      while i agree with your POST and the previous ones i’ve read, the difference with all the “all sin is sin” is dat here in dca and around the world i have never yet heard ppl protest or formed groups (miridom) to repeal any of these SINS u mentioned in ur post (which i agree with 100%). That’s where the difference is. None of us are proud of these sins wen we commit dem, a matter of fact the guilt dat follows after, we pray and vow never to commit dem again but we keep repeating dem. But only the Blood of JESUS CHRIST can cleanse us from all SINS.
      so the quote all theses SINS, i am putting the CHALLENGE to anyone who knows of anywhere in the world who is seeking for LAWS to repeal all the above mentioned SINS, besides HOMOSEXUALITY, let me know. I am awaiting a response.
      thanks.

    • Just Saying
      June 20, 2013

      Oh, he there still? Well, go look for him. This country is going to hell in a handbasket … and it’s not because of “gay right”. Look around you with eyes wide opened.

  52. Sigh
    June 20, 2013

    If sex is solely for reproduction, along with the buggery ban they should ban import of condoms into the country as well as ban porn and all forms of masturbation and oral sex….in fact if it not in the bible, hang anyone that participates!

  53. Frenz
    June 20, 2013

    Christians have always been arrogant and self righteous and that is an abomination – Luke 16: 15, 16. Homosexual behavior is no less a sin than heterosexual sex in the same context. Christians will continue to use the bible to justify their own abominable behavior.

    According to the bible Sexual sins of any kind are considered “abominations”. Leviticus 18: 18 – 30 and verses 27 – 30. Notice remarriages of divorced couples is considered an abomination in the bible. when it is convenient and there is financial benefit the very same preacher men will choose to ignore the bible .

    The Christian book also refer to dishonest business practices as an “abomination” in Deuteronomy 25: 13 – 16, Proverbs 11: 1 and Proverbs 20: 10.Read for yourself.

    Oppressive treatment of others and a pompous attitude (no law no constitution)are considered as “abomination” see Proverbs 3: 31 – 32. the very same attitude that pastor Rodney and other hypocrites display towards gay people is bible as an abomination. See Proverbs 11:20.

    Proverbs 6: 16 – 19:

    A list of abominations according to Proverbs 6: 16 – 19:
    A proud look, a lying tongue and hands that shed innocent blood, A divisive heart and wicked imaginations, feet running to mischief, A false witness speaking lies, he sows discord among men.

    Proverbs 17:15,24:9 – Those that justify the wicked or condemn the just, as well as scorners are listed as abominations

    Proverbs 28:9 – Those who pray and show themselves off as righteous and continue to ignore the laws as stipulated in proverbs is considered an abominable act.

    Maybe Lizavier4Jesus will stand by my side and give me a thumbs up. Frenz is no religious fanatic and I despise hypocrisy. To the pastors and priests stop the cherry picking and stand for truth at all times

    • roger
      June 20, 2013

      something for that pastor to read!

      AIDS stands for Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome and was first discovered in the early 1980’s. This disease weakens the immune system and makes it harder for the body to fight infections. Ever since this disease was first discovered, there have been many myths about it. One of those myths is that only gay people encounter AIDS. The reason many people think that only gay people can get this disease is because when it was first discovered, most of the people affected with it were homosexual men. In recent years, it has been discovered that heterosexual people are just as susceptible to AIDS as homosexuals are.

      Many people do not understand how AIDS develops. AIDS comes from a virus known as Human Immunodeficiency Virus, also referred to as HIV. HIV can passed from person to person through infected blood, semen and breast milk. There are three main ways that a person gets the HIV virus through sexual contact, through a mother passing it down to her infant during delivery or by breast feeding and through infected needles. The most common way that HIV is passed is through sexual contact and that includes anal and oral. In fact, most of today’s AIDS cases are a direct result of male and female sexual intercourse. That further dispels the myth that AIDS is a gay-only disease.

      Because many individuals truly believe that because they are straight they cannot get AIDS, they engage in reckless behavior such as unprotected sex and the sharing of needles. However, it is time that people wake up and understand that AIDS does not care whether one is gay or straight. If a person wants to avoid catching AIDS, he or she will have to take the necessary precautions to avoid it. One of the things that a person can do to reduce the risk of developing AIDS is wear a condom during all sexual acts. It must be noted that condoms greatly reduce the risk of catching this disease, but they are not 100%. That is why if one is unsure of his or her partner’s HIV status, it is best to avoid having any type of sexual intercourse with him or her.

      Another thing that a person can do to avoid catching AIDS is avoid the sharing of needles. Health care workers are at increased risk of coming in contact with AIDS, so they should always wear gloves when drawing blood or performing a transfusion. Again, it must be reiterated, that AIDS is something that can happen to anyone, regardless of his or her sexual orientation. Therefore, people should no longer refer to it as a gay-disease because today there are more straight people than ever who are living with it.

      • foreigner
        June 21, 2013

        Before I write anything I have to say that I visit my mother, brothers and family members in Dominica every year and nothing will prevent me from visiing because everyting you all are complaining about happens all over the world not just in Dominica so its nothing new. What I have to say I work in a sexual health centre, GUM clinic, clapp clinic or call it what you want and I have never heard such ignorance in all my life and I tell you now if people from Dominica dont know how Aids is caught by now well there is no hope for them. If you think that Aids is the only problem out there then you are very much mistaken. When HIV & aids was first heard of it was like a death sentance but now with the advances in treatment sufferers are living longer and could have fulfilling lives…but I would not expect dominicans to believe that because there minds are the size of a pinhead and they dont see anything further than the end of their nose and if they dont like what someone is saying then they insult them…that just goes to show the lack of education and the level of ignorance. I see people quoting scriptures from the bible in one breath and then insulting other people in the next breath…if thats not HYPOCRITICAL I dont know what is. Just remember those who live in glass houses should not throw stones because it could be you or one of your own family members in the future.

    • joebob
      June 20, 2013

      Love this post!

      • roger
        June 20, 2013

        thank you!

  54. Marcus Hill
    June 20, 2013

    I just wish these Pastors would be as vocal on other issues. It seems they cherrypicking which sin to fight.

    What about the 7th and 8th Commandments?

  55. shy
    June 20, 2013

    If everyone on this earth was gay how would mankind contiune after people die?

    • Malgraysa
      June 20, 2013

      Well, nobody would be here in the first place.

      • shy
        June 20, 2013

        Exactly,that’s why god put man and woman not man and man.Society just doing what they want,since when you hear two men making children.

  56. TRUEMAN
    June 20, 2013

    ***DEMONSTRATING TO BE IMPRISONED***

    Some of the people who are demonstrating might have already been engaging in “anal sex” with people from the opposite sex [not necessaily the same sex as man-man].

    Yet, they are quick to demonstrate!!

    We must understand exactly what we want to demonstarte for.

    We must understand our laws before we demonstrate.

    I wonder if they had listen to Sir.Alleyne lecture on this issue.

    Some of the demonstators could very well be imprisoned/charged under our current buggery law.

    Do they realize that this buggery law also apply to anal sex between a man and a woman?….. with consent I must add!!

    Some of them are basically demonstrating for their very own imprisonment!!!

    The sad thing is they don’t even realize it!!

    -Thanks

  57. June 20, 2013

    You all doh have work to do in Dominica?

  58. angel
    June 20, 2013

    Nearly everyone I know who’s high up in the church is quite obviously gay. The hypocrisy of church people is astounding but this has always been the case.

  59. D/A Lady
    June 20, 2013

    All the pastors out there have borthers, cousins, neighbours, colleagues who are homosexual. May the same pastors hiding in the closet. Maybe those same pastors committed adultery. But no Rally away…damn hypocrites. It’s inevitable

  60. no wespay e may
    June 20, 2013

    Pastor Rodney, Would u please hold a meeting in Lagoon on the theme “Adultery, how it affects the family? U would be the best person to speak on this topic. Thanks.

    • No name no warrant
      June 20, 2013

      Pastor Rodney is just like those pastors in Uganda, Ghana and other parts of Africa who are instigating bigotry and violence towards gay people. He is steadfast in his uniformed view of homosexuality, talking about educating people. How can you educate people on a subject you are not educated on because your religious “BELIEFS” forbid you to educate yourself on this very complicated HUMAN issue? Educate my foot. This is indoctrination NOT EDUCATION!!

  61. Referee
    June 20, 2013

    I might also add that Homosexuals, as much as they are despised locally, are also the creation of God, no less so than than religious leaders, especially some Roman Catholic priests who sexually abuse boys and cover up their activities.
    Rather than condemn homosexuals, priests and other religious leaders ought to conduct a moral audit on themselves and their institutions instead of throwing the first stone.

    • Max
      June 20, 2013

      How can you give this thumbs down? JESUS said “he who is without sin cast the first stone”.

      If we all followed the teachings of JESUS maybe there would be less hate in the world, and less hate in DA.

  62. Nudibranch
    June 20, 2013

    about time there was separation of church and state here, it’s the only way to move the country forward.
    what you do as a consenting adult behind your closed door is up to you. No one else s business!!

  63. Referee
    June 20, 2013

    The moral hypocrites are out in full force and I am not surprised. What I am surprised about is that the moral hypocrites, including the religious leaders are not equally vocal about the epidemic of official corruption which they, by their silence condone and thus give a green light to the political directorate to steal and plunder as they please.
    These religious leaders remind me of the Scribes and Pharasees whom Jesus firmly condemned as rotten and undeserving of the respect of the masses. Shame on them!

    • Jay
      June 20, 2013

      Hear, hear! And if they had any morality their churches would pay taxes and import duty like everybody else. They want to put themselves above the law, claiming only God can judge them? Well, that idea long time gone, togehter with the doctrine of the divine right of kings. You are accountable to your fellow men- & women now, as well as God!

    • Eh beh whey
      June 20, 2013

      Referee you or no one else will dictate to the religious leaders when to speak or what to speak about. Yes! the evangelical community will be out in full force against moral decay and decadence in Dominica. You are welcome to take a stand against this issue or be on the sidelines.

      • john
        June 20, 2013

        The bible has called many of these socalled religious leaders fornicators, because they want to project a form of spirituality; but their deeds are evil. The problem in this world are mostly caused by religious zealots, and even though Christ came to this world to bring love and forgiveness many who say they are his followers want to bring a scorch earth policy to his teachings.

  64. FED UP
    June 20, 2013

    Oh and Rodney – here’s some breaking news for you. Dominica already has AIDS! SMH

    • shy
      June 20, 2013

      But we will have more if we allow those nasty to do their nonsence in dominica

  65. Zodiac
    June 20, 2013

    What about adultery Pastor ROd? It is a sin, it is immoral.

    • Jay
      June 20, 2013

      And how about promoting- and showing pornographic movies for financial gain??

  66. Anonymous
    June 20, 2013

    Garson, the world is changing get with the program.

    • Anonymous
      June 20, 2013

      It doesn’t matter where you stand in the buggery situation. That’s a ridiculous comment. Crime is on the increase should we just accept that and get with the programme. More children are having sex and getting into drugs should we also just get with the programme and just leave them alone too.

      If you believe the buggery law should be repealed at least come up with a better argument than that.

      • Anonymous
        June 20, 2013

        We have to learn to be tolerant of people and there acquired behavior. Your point is well taken. However, crime is when you forcefully take something from another, that doesn’t belong to you. Kid having sex and doing drugs is due to a lack of parenting. Adults behaving against your beliefs is a calling and must not be discriminated against. You guys in Dominica must change your thinking or else, changes will be force on all you! You guys are not in isolation, you’re part of a global community. And things are changing and whether you like it or not, things will change.

    • June 20, 2013

      It couldn’t be said better :-D

  67. real
    June 20, 2013

    the earth is the Lord’s and the fullness thereof the world and they that dwell therein. we cannot stand against God and win. we cannot fight God’s truth and win. to God be the glory for ever and ever

    • Freethinker
      June 20, 2013

      The Earth is the Lord’s? I see. Where is the Lord’s title to the planet? Do you have a divinely signed copy the rest of us could see?

      • Princess
        June 20, 2013

        nonsense you talking pal. May God be with you

      • Skeptic
        June 20, 2013

        Lol

      • shy
        June 20, 2013

        I feel sorry for you pal

  68. ancient man
    June 20, 2013

    Male and Female have Sex to produce more of their kind in living beings,male and male or female and female sex is like bursting blanks.We need to follow nature and stop seeking selfish pleasure

    • D/A Lady
      June 20, 2013

      So sex is not for pleasure?

    • Malgraysa
      June 20, 2013

      So the only time you are having sex is because you plan to make a child then? You are doing that not for pleasure but out of duty?

    • Freethinker
      June 20, 2013

      So, since many other species of animals aside from humans engage in homosexuality, by following nature you mean we should accept gay people…right?

  69. grell
    June 20, 2013

    why should other countries tell us about our laws,well some of the big wigs in dominica are into it so the want the law repealed.

    • angel
      June 20, 2013

      We need telling. We need educating. We need to face reality and stop living in delusion.

  70. Preacher
    June 20, 2013

    Amen. About time some men of God stood up and March.

    • FED UP
      June 20, 2013

      Men of God. Really? Did God appoint them? Does that make them more special than you and I? Why aren’t they marching for the all the children of Dominica that are being exploited by relatives, strangers, men of power? Why aren’t they marching for that? Do away with this religious nonsense – and free yourselves from mental slavery. It’s 2013 and the world is marching on leaving Dominica far behind. SMH

      • trollers inc
        June 20, 2013

        marching straight to hell

      • Eh beh whey
        June 20, 2013

        Well this is a matter for which Dominica should be proud to be left behind.

      • JAH knows!!!!!
        June 20, 2013

        While we are at it, let’s just legalize marijuana too na!

    • no wespay e may
      June 20, 2013

      @preacher – men of God? really, really. Let the calypsonian sing the song for u. “Pastorrrr Rod”

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