Help, O Lord, for good men have vanished:
Truth has gone from the sons of men.
Falsehood they speak to one another,
With lying lips, with a false heart.
(Psalm 12)
The frivolity and irresponsibility which are displayed in many areas in Dominica have reached an unfortunate climax. A sense of responsibility seems to be far from the minds of many.
A call for accountability is blatantly dismissed as a subversive activity deserving immediate retaliation. Where are we going to? Are we witnessing the beginning of a police state with the Grand Inquisitor already in place?
If there is still any moral sense left in this country, there should be a public outcry at this moment. For a minister of government to suggest that a business establishment should be banned by the public in retaliation for the exercise of the civil rights of the proprietor is grossly incomprehensible.
This is particularly so because, in the 1970’s, the honourable gentleman was at the helm of the vindication of the rights of public servants. To my mind, this is low; this is abject; this is disgraceful. Indeed, this is disgusting!
It is reported that the philosopher Socrates, in broad daylight, went about the city with a lighted lantern. He was asked for the meaning of that action. His response was that he was looking for an honest man. He was in search of a man of integrity.
I fear that we have reached this stage in Dominica. I say so because many whom we revered for their sense of justice and integrity have seemed to abandon the path of righteousness.
This recent incident is a symbol of the direction which this country is taking. And it is doing so, at least, with the tacit approval of many Christian men and women. This is truly appalling.
Perhaps what we are witnessing is a level of intolerance, arrogance and intransigence which has assumed tremendous proportions.
This is a democratic country. Many people think that democracy is merely exercised on Election Day. No. Democracy is a way of life. It has to do with relationships.
It speaks of duties and responsibilities. It calls for participation. It is all about transparency, accountability, humble service and justice.
Mr. Jerry Brisbane is fully within his rights as a citizen of the Commonwealth of Dominica to make the approaches that he has made to the People’s Republic of China, the European Union, the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and USAID. He is right in having his concerns.
Mr. Jerry Brisbane should be applauded for his courage, his sense of civic responsibility and his sense of justice.
My suggestion is that the people of Dominica, as a show of support for this champion of justice, should frequent Brizee’s Mart particularly during this Christmas season.
This would be just a small reward for being a champion of human rights which are being eroded in this country.
O Judgement, thou art fled to brutish beasts And men have lost their reason.
Hey to all the priest bashers. guess what? I just travelled through the time machine to the time just after Rosa Parkes refused to go to the back of the bus and the Pastor Reverend King stepped in. Was reading all the comments written in the papers about King by the Klan.
I can hardly see the difference between their comments and yours. If King was like how allyou want Father Jolly to be plenty of you would never be able to go to USA and make it better for you and your families. The priest is trying to it better for us down here.
MAN TAKE OUT FATHER JOLLY AND PUT CHALO AS PRIEST
Why? Provide a reason for your comment.
It is high time that a recognized individual, someone that can be regarded with esteem, come out and comdemn what is going on in Dominica. I was wondering whether people had forgotten the strike of 79; it was the very Saverin who was behind the country shutting down for 49 days. The man is a tyrant and don’t really care what happens to Dominicans. It is time for Dominicans to put all politics aside and wake up and realize what is happening to the country. When we decide to take heed, TOO LATE SHALL BE THE CRY
who is that jolly man tell mate he is not any bodies god not because you foolish people call him fada ok no one has to listen or take his own words like is the bible
Who are you to make such a statement? If you reside in Dominica you should know the Priests in Dominica or at least heard about them. Have respect for him.
He never claimed to be God. He is a consecrated Priest. He studied for approximately 7 years prior to becoming a Priest. He is no foolish person but a highly educated one.
He is Father Jolly, to be regarded as such and none of your further negative comments.
God has ordained that the Catholic Christian Priests should be called “Father”. They have been addressed as such from way back when, long before you and I were born and also your Dominican ancestry of all.
Many instances the Holy Bible is misinterpreted by some people to suit their mentality. The problem with some people is they only talk and assume. They never ask God for discernment as to whether they are right or wrong.
This is another reason why, thanks be to The Blessed Trinity that I will remain a Catholic until the day I die.
Our Lord Jesus Christ established His Catholic Christian Church on earth when He said: “Thou art Peter and upon this Rock I will build My Church…”
Many of you were once practicing Catholics as your ancestors and who have been adversely swayed by some people of our times who formed their own religion and lambaste the Catholic Church. You have become the enemies of the Catholic Church.
Ask yourself, whom did Our Lord Jesus Christ speak to 2010 years ago? It surely was not the thousands of other religions which sprouted up since and more to come which highly offend and sadden Him and which provide no love, peace and unity in the world.
“He prayed in the Garden of Gethsemane that they may be one.” Are we one? Who caused this division? Think of that.
You do have a father. Do you not refer to him as “my father”? This is mortal and spiritual food for thought.
Our Priests are “Our Father in the Catholic Church.” To the faithful Catholics, they do comprehend this.
Fr. Jolly,
I have always had utmost respect for you but your article has now enabled me to see a different side of you. How can you condone Jerry Brisbane’s behavior? I know that you are a man of God and a very intelligent one at that; however, any right thinking Dominican can see what Jerry’s intentions are. You think that Jerry should be applauded for his courage, his sense of civic responsibility and his sense of justice? Is that what age has done to you? I stand on neutral grounds – neither UWP nor DLP supporter.
Any spiritual leader in society is supposed to be impartial and not take sides when it comes to National, Societal and Community unity. It is frightening to read the lop sided remarks from Father Jolly. How could any forward thinking individual accept that “Mr. Jerry Brisbane is fully within his rights as a citizen of the Commonwealth of Dominica to make the approaches that he has made to the People’s Republic of China, the European Union, the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and USAID”? Jerry took on the responsibility of acting on Dominicans behalf as an individual. It would be more palatable if these letters were written by the opposition because at least they have a minority mandate to speak on some on our behalf.
Jerry have to restrain himself and continue his local crusade to topple the DLP administration. There are certain responsibilities attached to persons wanting to gain the trust of the public. It is irresponsible and plain out stupid writing to international agencies admonishing them about their distribution of funds to Dominica. Father Jolly in all your wisdom you’re saying to us how comfortable you feel with an individual attempts to destroy Dominica’s ability to access funding so any government present and future would get the monies needed to enhance the quality of life for all Dominicans.
Father Jolly if you claim to be a friend of Dominica and also a friend of Jerry Brisbane and fellow Roman Catholic member Hon. Charles Severin, you should let both the business man and Government Minister know that they both erred. Mr. Brisbane is wrong for risking the entire development of the Country and Hon. Severin for advising Dominicans not to shop at a place which provides employment to a number of Dominicans. Now Father Jolly you made the pool of expected apologies even wider by your lop sided support of an absolute wrong. You Father Jolly, Mr. Jerry Brisbane and Hon. Charles Severin owe all Dominicans an apology.
Well Said Fr Jolly. It s about time the other sectors in Dominica including religious stand for truth and Justice. The Christian Council Chairman was on DBS saying nothing. Those from the evangelical church seem to be getting more than the10% from their congregation so they not saying nothing. De Bishop is a waste of time he too diplomatic it wrong say it wrong. They all looked on on Dec 18th and said nothing when Skerrit stole de elections paying for tickets, chartering planes and paying people for their votes.
Fr Jolly I agree it is time for honest men to come forward. I am a Devout Catholic who can for once be proud of a priest when it involves politics. Not like Thomas and Cuffy who have their agendas.
The problem in Dca and this situation is much simpler.
1. Too much talk no work
2. Jerry may have committed an error, but Savarin could have been more responsible.
3. But again, too much talk and no work
4. So, Savarin made an irresponsible statement because of too much talk and no work on the radio
5. And instead of being a man and simply apologizing for his out burst, he beats his chest
6. And what? More talk and still no work.
7. Had the matter been dealt with diplomatically and responsibly both by Government and Saavy
8. All this talk and no work would not be taking place
9. We must put things into perspective, then talk and be working.
10. Full stop.
PR at it’s best
My suggestion is that the people of Dominica, as a show of support for this champion of justice, should frequent Brizee’s Mart particularly during this Christmas season.
Will he be paid for that?
Those who already walk submissively will say there is no cause for alarm. But submissiveness is not our heritage. Our Constitution was designed to allow rebellion to remain as our heritage. The Constitution was designed to keep government OFF THE BACKS OF THE PEOPLE. Freedom of Speech was added to keep the precincts of belief and expression, of the press, of political and social activities free from surveillance. The Constitution was designed to keep AGENTS OF GOVERNMENT and official eavesdroppers away from assemblies of people. the aim was to allow men to be FREE AND INDEPENDENT AND TO ASSERT THEIR RIGHTS AGAINST (CORRUPT) GOVERNMENT.”
Isn’t strange how all those who have these wonderful words of admonishment for the good priest, a mature citizen of the country, have no similar messages for those other so called men of God who promulgate visions not given to them by God. They have no words of condemnation for preachers who, teach that God has anointed a sinner, a fornicator, a thief, a speaker of untruth. They have no words of condemnation against churches which have departed from their doctrines and accepted money from government.
I am starting a pitition to remove Fr. Jolly from the catholic church. I signed the pitition to remove Charles Saverin and so i am starting this one cus JERRY will not.
Oh please! People read all On-Line Websites. They might as well be called TV.
God is not a democracy. God operates a Kingdom, the Kingdom of Heaven.
You tamper with God’s consecrated Priest and you will experience the result from God Himself.
As God sees and takes note, all those who harass, etc. Priests are cursed.
Take note and keep this in mind.
remember that father jolly is first a son of the soil just as father thomas is .Thomas used his bully pulpit in the past to support eugenia at the Pottersville church least we forget and more recently to crown her with many crowns and no one condemed him then and now.. remember it was Eugenia and charles Saverin who locked down the country for 47 days- the CSA strike that brought Saverin and Eugenia to power. least we forget.Father jolly you do have the support of those of us who still can remember. well written father you could not have said it better. The church will understand it is an organization and should continue to evolve.
Cease living in the past and look forward. Your face and eyes are in front of you and not behind your back. We look forward and to better times, not backwards and to worst times.
Help your country. Help everyone whom you possibly could as circumstances present themselves without counting the cost and time, going that second mile, all for the love of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
If you reside in Dominica, help your Dominican people and the government to do better. If you reside elsewhere in the world, help others. God will be pleased and will grant you with happiness and peace, to overcome the worst in society.
It is stated: “If people did more for God than for the world, more souls would be saved.”
Practice your Christian faith. Read and study Holy Scriptures. A message for all which will enable us to always do good and perform good works.
What Jerry did in my opinion was wrong and Charles Saverin in his capacity was no better than Jerry in saying what he said. Likewise Fr. Jolly is no exception. In his capacity, he is supposed to maintain a mutual ground on this matter. Instead of putting peace he shows support to Brisbane. So it seems like everybody speaking out of capacity. Fr. Jolly calling for a public outcry. There should be a petition to remove Fr. Jolly from the church. Jerry’s action is driven by his own personal agenda towards the Prime Minister, not as a concerned citizen of Dominica. It is no secret that there is a certain group of bandileros that will stop at noting until they bring down the present government. They want to see a repeat of 1979. But in the words of a wise man. There will not be a repeat of 1979 but there will be a repeat of December 18th 2009.
WHEN WRONG IS BEING DONE IN YOUR COUNTRY IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE FAITHFUL TO STAND UP AND CONDEMN SUCH DIVISIVE ACTION. BECAUSE WHEN THERE IS UNREST ALL WILL SUFFER.
THIS GOV’T IS FULL OF UNPROFFESSIONALS AND THERE SHOULD BE AN OUTCRY TO REMOVE MOST OF THEM.
WHEN CORRUPTION IS RAMPANT IN A SMALL ISLAND LIKE DOMINICA, WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY TAKING THE MONEY FROM AND TAKING IT TO??
WE HAVE SEEN AND HEARD ABOUT MANY COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD HOW RICH THEIR LEADERS GET WHILE IN OFFICE. WELL , WE IN DOMINICA DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH IN THE TREASURY TO GO AROUND.
MORE OF US SHOULD COME OUT TO SUPPORT FATHER JOLLY, THIS IS A SENIOR CITIZEN AND FOR SURE HE CAN SEE FURTHER THAN MANY OF US. “A WORD TO THE WISE IS ENOUGH”
If we are left to dig back into the archives of history some of us may remember the atrocities of General Augusto Pinochet and his regime .If my memory serves me right the most outspoken critic was no other than a catholic Cardinal Raul Silva Henriquez. He did not sit idly by while the injustices of man oppressed the people which he served.
He rallied to the top even under directives from Rome to abstain from political commentary on the issue.He pursued with his quest to shed light on the injustices plaguing his country at that time.
So tell me “fairplay” is it fair to sit by and allow everything that has no moral value to be lifted high in this country ,
Is it fair to turn a blind eye to the countless cries of corruption?
Is it fair to be such examples to the youth ,Aren’t we saying to them directly that it is OK to steal,cheat,forget,mishandle state property?
Is it fair to accumulate wealth at such phenomenal pace and be arrogant about questions asked ?
the list could GO ON AND ON…
REMEMBER WE ARE ALL HUMAN AND YES PRIESTS HAVE HEARTS TOO , tell me which will hurt more 1)speaking out or 2) remaining silent?
just my 1 and a half cents
CLEAR, SIMPLE, CONCISE AND TO THE POINT in other words CLEAN BOWLED . . . AN UNPLAYABLE YORKER : there can be no sensible response or defense to this intervention by the learned priest of INDEPENDENT CALIBRE. father you are a DOMINICAN TO DE BONE
father Clement(Desmond Tutu) Jolly should be President for life of this island : the Pope should make him a bishop immediately.
while Savarin is an embodiment of ALL that is wicked ugly mean and nasty about dominica this priest IS the shining indicator that all is not lost and that there is still a remnant of decent people around.
I submit that every negative sentiment about president jolly’s article only further proves his absolutely appropriate heading and is again another TRIUMPH OF ABSURDITY
O Judgement, thou art fled to brutish beasts And men have INDEED lost their reason.
PEOPLE . . . LET US OBEY DE PRIEST and maybe God will show us His face again.
GOD BLESS YOU REVEREND FR. JOLLY.
To those bashing you simply because you spoke the truth is distasteful and shameful. Oh laborites, since when did the Rev. Father become a UWPite? Why is it when someone calls a spade a spade as it relates to the current government they are mercilessly attacked? I beg thee laborites to STOP attacking the Rev. Father and instead pay attention to his words. The Labor Party and government must understand that those of us who belong to the Catholic church will not stand idly by and watch the so called head-hunters destroy one of our shepherds who had the gall to speak the truth.
We Catholics will never forget this disgraceful attack on our beloved Father Jolly who spoke out of conscience while others hide in the shadows for a mere pittance. Attacking our beloved messenger and son of the soil is the begining of the end of The Labour Administration. I await the reaction of the other religious leaders in this regard. Be aware LABOUR for WE shall NEVER forget. Hail Mary Full Of Grace………….
Rev Jolly, I agree that Mr Brisbane has his rights as a citizen of the commonwealth of Dominica to express his views & call for accountability in Gov’t circles. However to write to the donor community expressing these concerns is OUT OF ORDER & casts aspersions on the credability & good name of Dominica among these donors. Yes democrazy & free speech are hallmarks of any free society, but free speech must be tempered by restraint & responsiblity, both of which were lost on Mr Savarin & Mr Brisbane.
It is funny that you as a Dominican has lost all sense. The person to blame in this is the Prime Minister when you start asking for such large sums just to build a state house it is a cause for concern. The white house in the US didnt even cost all that i mean ppl think have they taken your brains and intellengence as well. Why cant half of that or even a quarter go to the statehouse the rest for a funding to aid all the Dominicans with ambition to open a small business but will not get the bank loans. It wont be a loan they dont need a loan to pay back and then cant see thier way they need assistance a blessing.
dont blame mr brisbane cause had he not done what he he did he would have gotten no response, cause that is what the government does when legitimate questions are asked
good job sir, well done.
Father Jolly u couldnt have said it better. sorry though, the red people will put the rod of the evil one on u hope u a strong enough for these evil tongues
Cant belief my eyes to be greeted by so many childish, immature, emotive and low comments coming from Dominica – who give the world a glimpse of the intellegence of Dominicans on a whole.
Keep going on like this – remember the world is reading and laughing and taking notes. In 2010 – with so many irresponsible and degrading comments being made – its most irritating to say the least. May God bless Dominicans and Dominica….
go read comments on yahoo news, FOOL
YES YES YES!!!
FATHER JOLLY I RESPECT YOU FOR YOUR COURAGE, I SUPPORT YOUR CALL.
CAN I GET TO SEE THE M.O.U PEOPLE? OR DO I HAVE TO WRITE THE CHINESE?
I AM PATRONISING JERRY MORE NOW, THANKS TO CHARFOOLO.
WE NEED MORE PERSONS OF INTEGRITY TO COME FORWARD.
ALAS! SO FEW ARE LEFT, WHICH BISHOP, NO WAY! PASTORS MEME BITEN
LAWYERS- WORSE JUST CHECK ISIDORA!
HMMMMM!
So it seems that for our country to be democratic and free we should only allow freedom of expression to the likes of Jerry brisbane (the Champion of Free Speech), Lennox, Angelo, the callers to Q-95 and other blue bloggers here on DNO and now Father Jolly? Any form of expression from Skerro, Charlo, members of his Cabinet and DLP supporters in general should be banned and deemed intolerable and ‘undemocratic’ in Dominica?
Then you guys talk about dictatorship? Thank God for Skerrit who continue to allow EVERY Dominican freedom of expression, since it seems like if the guys that Father Jolly wants to get into power really get in, THEN CRAPAUD GO SMOKE THE PIPE OF ALL OF US WHO DO NOT SIDE WITH DEM FELLAS.
Fr Jolly has consistently stood up for justice, human rights.honesty, democracy, good morals etc. Just read his books. Congrats on this good message. Good to know that their are still some people prepared to stand up / speak up when things are wrong
It is certainly wrong ,unacceptable for a minister of Govt to behave so contrary to what he and Govt promised, committed and swear to do on behalf of the people i.e. create jobs, protect jobs,protect the constitutional rights of the people and demonstrate exampary leadership
Our Govt must have the decency,guts and assure the people that it does not condole that behaviour
It’s a sad day for Dominica and Dominican when someone in the capacity of the Rev. Father Jolly seek to speak for the whole of Dominica, not the catholic church, for His Lordship the Bishop would not tolerate anyone uttering such words, especially when it comes from his own flock, it must be grievous for him.
Is the most Rev Father Jolly really serious; is he serious about praising Jerry Brisbane for writing such garbage? Is the Rev. Father aware about wiki leak and how he is being haunted and demeaned for exposing state secrets? What Jerry has done is for more than exposing state secret, he has attempted to tell the world to withhold bread from the children of a country regarded by millions as a poor country. Is that Godly and deserving to be uttered by a man of God and to praise the perpetrator for such an evil did? Did I hear the Most Rev. Father say, “In the last days man shall call evil good” oops it’s not him it’s the Word of God, sorry.
Maybe the Rev. Father needs a vacation and deserve some relaxation and maybe we all can laugh at this joke and see the Rev. Father in another light.
PRICELESS! :-D: lol: This may just help us vent our frustration, isn’t it?
A little boy got on the bus, sat next to a man reading a book, and noticed he had his collar on backwards.
The little boy asked why he wore his collar backwards.
The man, who was a priest, said, ‘I am a Father.’
The little boy replied, ‘My Daddy doesn’t wear his collar like that.’
The priest looked up from his book and answered, ”I am the Father of many.’
The boy said, ”My Dad has 4 boys, 4 girls and two grandchildren and he doesn’t wear his collar that way!’
The priest, getting impatient, said. ‘I am the Father of hundreds’, and went back to reading his book.
The little boy sat quietly thinking for a while, then leaned over and said, “Maybe you should wear a condom, and put your pants on backwards instead of your collar.”
Please do not crucify me; I am only the post man and not the one who paid the postage.
HaHaHahahaha……..Our office is cracking up with laughter!!……..
!!! Mind you, some may not get the joke!!! Hahaha!!!!
well no wonder we are considered a poor country, since all the gov’t does is go about begging. And in case you have not heard though they may be haunting wiki leaks down, they are yet to know what to charge him with, freedom of expression and all.
oh Lord what will become of us if we stop getting money we begged for??? well perhaps we will get off our Laurells and start producing something. stupess. i have no problem with requesting grants and such but that cannot be our only source of income. and when the hospital is barely equiped and govt wants to spend millions on a house, you gotta ask yourself some questions.
And for your information, Dominica is not poor, there may be poor people on Dominica but that does not make her poor.
Maybe we should just fire Chalres Savrine and Boycott Brisbane. They both have something in common and that is they are rude and out of check.
Jolly go put on your blue suit and march around Roseau with the other idiots who did that on Monday. Yes, this is a truly democratic society where everyone can do and say anything (and yes, priests can get fully immersed in politics, even contradicting themselves by claiming there is no democracy and freedom of expression in the country while they use that same freedom to try to convince the masses that what a very ‘unpatriotic’ son did was right)
Mr. jolly, you are no different from Brisbane, a damned traitor who has a political agenda, BUT the truth shall set us all free eventually. i suggest you go to confession for your one-sided allegance to the unholy blue alliance. Anyway, continue to enjoy your freedom of expression Sir. that is what democracy is about. All of us, you, myself, Jerry and YES, Charlo and Skerro TOO!!!
You certainly not a CATHOLIC, anonymouse
His Lordship the Catholic Bishop of Roseau has warned his Priests to stay away from Politics.Rev. Fr. Clement Jolly should be fired.
HEAR RUBBISH….HEAR HEAR HEAR NONESENSE….AH FORCE SOME OF ALLU SOT
Firplay you should be reminded that Catholic Priests have a tendancy to be morally challenged. Unfortunately they do things much worst than that and it affects children/young boys. But Jolly is correct and i’m happy he feels convicted enough to come out come out and express his feelings.
This is Dominica and a small island. It does hurt Fr. Jolly as a Dominican resident to hear and read about what is taking place in Dominica. There is no doubt that he wishes all the bickering could die down and that those concerned be reconciled. All this, also for the sake and peace of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
I genuinely mean that!
We have a problem we do not always put God first in our lives and consider what will He say and do (WWJS and WWJD).
As a human being, a Dominican, Fr. Jolly, as also the Bishop, reserves the right to comment. They may be able to influence some people, hopefully at least the majority, to work together and cooperate for the common good of Dominica and its nationals. However, I do not condone and applaud Brisbane for what he did. I also do not condone and applaud Savarin for what he did. Two wrongs do not make a right. I do not dislike or hate anyone of them. They both will have to answer to God for their actions.
God forgives. I do wish that those two men as also Ron Green and his Party members of all would set aside their differences and shake hands.
We are all God’s children. Soon we will be celebrating Christmas, the birth of Our Lord Jesus Christ. This would surely please Our Lord who lived, taught, suffered and died for us that “all of us might be one”. This is also a condition for living in peace and harmony and obtaining eternal salvation.
Common guys, for the love of God, for Dominica and its nationals, please make amends.
Start afresh for the New Year. It is not difficult to do if you make up your minds. Nothing is impossible to a willing heart. You will be happier for it.
As the hymn, “Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me.” And, “His love and peace are flowing like a river, flowing out for you and me…”
God bless all of you. God bless Dominica and its nationals.
If we are left to dig back into the archives of history some of us may remember the atrocities of General Augusto Pinochet and his regime .If my memory serves me right the most outspoken critic was no other than a catholic Cardinal Raul Silva Henriquez. He did not sit idly by while the injustices of man oppressed the people which he served.
He rallied to the top even under directives from Rome to abstain from political commentary on the issue.He pursued with his quest to shed light on the injustices plaguing his country at that time.
So tell me “fairplay” is it fair to sit by and allow everything that has no moral value to be lifted high in this country ,
Is it fair to turn a blind eye to the countless cries of corruption?
Is it fair to be such examples to the youth ,Aren’t we saying to them directly that it is OK to steal,cheat,forget,mishandle state property?
Is it fair to accumulate wealth at such phenomenal pace and be arrogant about questions asked ?
the list could GO ON AND ON…
REMEMBER WE ARE ALL HUMAN AND YES PRIESTS HAVE HEARTS TOO , tell me which will hurt more 1)speaking out or 2) remaining silent?
just my 1 and a half cents
fired for what….you fool…
“If there is still any moral sense left in this country, there should be a public outcry at this moment.”
Father Jolly, when you write such a commentary, I wonder if we ever had any moral sense in the first place. I am truly disappointed. It is ironic that you are so free to write your commentary in a land which you and others claim is losing its democracy. I might add that you do so without any fear of reprisal from your superiors. It seems to me that by saying this (My suggestion is that the people of Dominica, as a show of support for this champion of justice, should frequent Brizee’s Mart particularly during this Christmas season.)you are doing the same thing that Charles Savarin has done. Charles Savarin called for a show of support for DOMINICA, you are calling for support for JERRY BRISBANE. So my learned fellow Catholic, tell me how to recognise or “discern” who a champion of justice is. Why didn’t you in ‘Kant’ fashion think of the common good and say to the two gentlemen,’you have erred’ let us turn the page because frankly, you are contributing more to the ‘divide and rule’ mentality that we have in this country. I urge you to use your ‘energy’ which you still appear to have, to help us do the work in our CHURCH which is still the means of creating a just and moral society. We have work to do in the CATHOLIC CHURCH. I wish you would spend your spare time in our community giving us mass since out of four Sundays in a month, we have one Mass. It would be a blessing if you could ask JERRY, your CHAMPION OF JUSTICE to provide you with transportation for free to come and give us mass.
The work in the church starts with you, me and everyone stop waiting for the priest and bishops to do the work. We are the church and the change starts with us.
haha notice i used the word “we”? I am sure u understand the English language,
UWP supporters makes me laugh!! Whenever someone says what they want to hear, true or not, they hail them as credible, honest, having no agenda or axe to grind; even if there is evidence to the contrary.
But when the table turns or a senator for example, leave the party the first thing they say, he was paid off. According to the UWP they never lost an election; it was always stolen, people were always paid off, or flown in to vote; in fact they are in the majority and not the other way around-denial, denial, denial!!
Now lets ask ourselves how can a man of God take the position he did? How could he condemn Mr. Savarin and see nothing wrong with what Mr. Brisbane did? Any fair-minded person would say both are wrong, but Mr. Brisbane’s action is clearly more damaging to the country, yet a supposedly fair (man of God) did not see it that way.
By repeating the same baseless, factless B.S. from Q95 about loss of democracy and at the same time posting his comments on one of the many free open media houses in Dominica which contradicts what he is alleging, Mr. Jully has shown himself to be another fear mongering mouthpiece of propoganda like those on Q95.
Let me remind Mr. Jully that the Bible says we should not judge or repeat things we cannot prove.
You surely have a problem. Little axe beats big axe. The eighteen seats that the Labour holds is a joke. See how the three seats have you all trembling. You all cannot laugh, sleep nor eat all the nice food you get through bobol and deceit. Look at all the United Workers supporters! They are happy and smiling. They you all trembling. It’s nice being out there looking at you all who are laughing outside but crying inside because all you feeling guilty for voleaing the elections.
Goodnight, Workers sleeping nice and tight.
Why you spell the Priest name wrong noh? it is a o and not a u. Mind the priest shake the Siltan on you bwoy. LOL.
Every time i read an article of fr. jolly i think a am getting wisdom. This man is blessed by the Lord Almighty.Continue to educate and inspire us for the best.
Fr.Jolly is one of high intergrity and moral standards thats why he will speak out while the other remain at the mercy of skerrit. Shame on them.
Why do people think when these organizations give money t a goverment it is allways free, even if it’s a country as a grant. There is allways a way that you have to pay back wether it’s cash or kind, so dominicans be foolish it on our backs or our children. So go ahead and be foolish let politics make you all hate each other, and at the end of the day all the riches the ministers and other people acquire do you think they will share with you ,well smell the coffee NO.
jolly keep your mouth in your politics not the church,, you foolll. you gave all you had to the church, see how the other are stupid.
when things goes wrong you all call on the church, now he has spoken you all have a problem with that, maybe if he had supported saverin maybe you would have termed him as a hero. you all are so heartless and outright wicked. time will tell.
@ Truth. Is this the same Father Jolly who had written articles criticizing the UWP when they were in power? I guess you were upser then because you were a workers. Truth is anyone who has an opinion not consistent with that of the ruling is fair game. Why can’t we tolerate another point of view.
It is not uncommon for catholic priests to hold strong views on politics. Look at Latin America. In fact one became president of Haiti.
Hope you not going and curse the priest ok?
Why do people believe that talk shows are a sign of democracy. All talk show do is to allow the same morons to continue talking. Participation in the process is what makes a democracy a democracy. Talk and more talk is just that talk.
These shows are used by politicians to make people believe that there is democracy. So please people modern day slavery and dictatorship comes in many different forms.
Don’t believe the hype a talk show does not make a country democratic. It actually gives the people an avenue to vent so that they will not have a build up of frustration which they can unleash on the politician
savarins statement was the most distasteful ive heard of from a minister of government responsible for employment. Have u people forgetten that there are hundreds of people employed at this establishment we are asked to boycot,that, this is also a ready market for any local produce that one needs to sell? how can a minister ask people to boycot an institution which pays taxes. it is not just the statement but who is asking u to do it. My goodness are there people of intergrity still alive today? like father jolly i wonder.Father jolly is a supporter of the labour party but when what is wrong is spoken about he is labelled another colour. Everything that was wrong b4 is right now God help Dominica,
I could not have said it better, well done Fr. Jolly. I wish we could all get the message without attacking the messenger!!
Who do u think you are Mr Jolly you are not my father so i cand addresas u so why dont you go and clean the Catholic church so much young boys are being molested by the priest’s that is worse than Charles Savrien’s statement your hyprocrit your sins are more than his condem those bulling priest in public instead.did you know that JERRY BRFISBANE WAS TANISHING DOMINICA’S INAGE AND NOT SKERRIT,WHY THEN U NOT SAYING NOTHING ABOUT HIS LETTERS TO THOSE DONORS BUT YOU WANTR TO OPEN YOUR UNGTODLY MOUTH NOW THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS NEVER BEEN AN EXAMPLE TO PEOPLE so clean your backyard instead tell the clergy leave young boys alone Saverin is right the boycut is on Brisbain cant even get 700 signatures he sells very expencive so he stage his own boycut
You need to grow up; address the article and stop the mapuis.
@Shelco.. people like you make me ashamed of our future. Can you take your mind from the gutter for once just to see that the buggery you are talking about is not happening in Dominica. So far no cases reported. Think.. Really think of a sensible comment before posting your ignorancy in the World Wide Web. Father Jolly is first and foremost a human being and has a right to speak out if he thinks something is going wrong respect his opinion! Btw Jerry was not tarnishing Dominica’s image he was just living up to his democratic responsiblity and asking the benefactors of Dominica if there is enough accountability in their actions so get your facts right! It obvious you have internet access so use it for the betterment of yourself not to make yourself look like a fool
Sheer ingnorance people. Why do you’ll stoop so low when there is a situation with right and wrong. Let God be the judge of everyone . I will ask you one question search yourself honestly have you seen the priest with your two eyes molest anyone. If not do yourself a favour shut up.
While we have to respect the opinion of others I am surprised and dissappointed at this article from Fr Jolly. Based on the status that we have in society we have to be careful in expresssing our opinioins publicly especially when it comes to political matters.How did Fr Jolly come to the conclusion that Human Rights are being eroded in Dominica and Jerry has become a champion of human rights?
My own opinion is that Jerry is being driven by hate of the PM and any Dominican who does not condemn Jerry for writing such a letter to our Donors are just as guilty as he is of TREASON.
What do you think was the motive of such a letter? And why did he not inform the general public that he had written such letters? It was only after that PM spoke of the letters that he Jerry also mentioned them.If he was genuine he would have come out in the open from early instead of going behind “people back” and try to sneak in a low blow.
Fr Jolly should try to take a consensus and see how many people share his opinion.It is often said that the voice of the people is the voice of God so Fr Jolly should be asking himself is his opinion being shared my the majority of Dominicans.
When in our hate that we try to deny Dominica from much wanted foreign aid then this becomes a very serious issue and while I totally disagree with the call to boycott Brizee,s Mart Jerry must be told in no uncertain terms that what he did was a crime against Dominica and we will never forgive him for stooping so low in his attempt to try to get even with one man.
They are driven by Hate and nothing Else
Why insult the Heavenly Father. while he is just and merciful, he doesnot want us to stir destruction and strife. He commands us to be at peace with everyone. Both Gentleman were wrong. I would not waste my time to answer the Brisbane man if I were Charlo. I would think above that. A priest on the other hand is one who has to help persons to salvation and to encourage reading the word and obeying our Great Master. To actually take side is to cause more division in a small country like ours. To prolong a matter that has caused division and hatred. The role of the holy priest would be to talk to both parties together in order to bring peace and tranquility in an already political divided nation. A priest or Pastor has to preach the message of repentance and help to bring persons closer to Jesus Christ.
What the good priest has done is more wrong added to the already two wrongs that have already been committed.
A Priest doesnot have to show preference of one political party over another. He has to pray for all the leaders whether opposition or ruling and if there is a need for mediation, then this is role for peace sake. He has to bring those at loggerheads together and bring peace to them. To go publicly and write this article is not in keeping with his role as a priest. He is further dividing an already angry, hurting and divided country.
All should appologise to the Citizens of this country moreso our young persons who are looking up to us as role models.
true words
One small Item:
This entire thing (Brisbane Hating Skerrit and DLP) is due to a Dominican Citizen with an idea and funding requesting permits to open a new supermarket real close to the Market.
That is where it all stems from.
Brisbane wanted the Government to deny the person seeking to establish this new Supermarket on the basis that it threatens his business with added competition and a better location.
That person is Karl Nassief and the business is <b=SAVE-A-LOT.
I am no fan of Mr. Nassief, but my personal prejudices aside, I will say he seems to be an aggressive successful businessman. He has the funding and ideas and is intent on being in all areas of Dominica's economy.
Should the Government have stopped him, No they could not and should not.
Mr. Brisbane should think back to the days when he himself wanted to establish his Supermarket in Canefield….was he denied?
All these guys that jump on the UWP bandwagon do so because they did not get something.
I want something and if you doh give it to me, I joining the other side.
It is the nature of things-It happens everywhere.
The Government while being accused from all sides must be able to fight back. When that happens, it is called loss of Democracy
It’s all about money, Mr.Brisbane is fighting for himself not Dominica but the haters can’t see that.
Amen Father…
well i can see the acolytes in the main d.l.p office in roseau got busy at there laptops to wage war with mr jolly,,,,,allu did not comment on the isidore article huh,,,,,allu was waiting for a story allu could jump on huh,,,,,
It’s always a conspiracy huh? It never is what it is, people are always paid off; no one but UWP supporters have a mind or a computer of their own to write what they feel. The majority of Dominicans just looooove the UWP.
The denial continues; anyone who write something you all don’t like, are being told what to do. Next time you’re in that phantom office count the laptops and then count the number of comments on DNO you don’t like and see if they add up.
MOTS chill out and write sensibly.
How many young boys, how many young boys Father Priest?
Congratulations Rev Fr. Jolly old priest. Love and respect to you, Sir. You did expect to be persecuted for speaking the TRUTH of your conscience. Be blessed Jolly old Rev. Fr.
This Priest should have been this vocal about the abuse by the Catholic Church Priests with countless helpless children. This Priest, Father Jolly (sic) seems to have just found religion. Is he not a student of the teachings of Jesus Christ?
The Catholic Church and the Priests are some of the biggest criminals to ever walk the earth.
Here he is judging someone, actually many people. This guy is a Hypocrite, plain and simple.
I would ask that he keep his mouth shut and stick to the bible. What moral authority does he hold over anyone for that matter?
Earlier in the year we found out that a young man was sexually molested by a catholic priest in New York city and information about the molestation was withheld by Pope Benedict. Where was the catholic church? Where was father Jolly? Was there a petition agaiinst Pope Benedict or the priest? So they can just bull people children and no worries? Father Jolly my advise to you is to manage the affairs of the church and let the government manage the affairs of the country.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China, you people just cannot tolerate anything that is not falttering to Skeritt and his Government.. Everything should be part of the red army to make to clueless people happy.
This is how skerrit supporters are stooping so so low.
i love that statement that has nothing to do with the situation at hand. Are they going to tackle anyone who speaks out with these silly hear says no proof people your tongue has the power of life and death it will condem you think before speaking or just hold that tongue in place.
truth you are right.
When people who should be making people and seeking to resolve issues take sides they complicate things and show their color of bias reasoning.
The two gentle men were wrong. Mr. Brisbane’s motive was wrong in writing to those who help Dominica. If he has issues with the prime minister, writing to these countries did more harm than good. Hon Savrine was wrong in calling on people to boycott local business. The prime minister was wrong in not telling mr. Savrine that he was wrong. The opposition leader was wrong in siding with mr. Brisbane. The religious leader is wrong in taking side with mr. Brisbane who was wrong.
All parties should say sorry to Dominica and move on. There are better things to do than to waste people time on things that do not help with development
Dominica is too political for small country. People have no tolerance and love for each other. They live like crabs trying to bring down people
On what ground was Mr, Brisbane wrong???? How could you ascertain Mr. Brisbane’s Motive?? Please be more reasonable and intelligent than that!!!!
SORY mR dOMINICA . wE WOULDN’T DO IT AGAIN EH.
The Word of Hope is in the message of the Holy Bible. This public outcry should make no difference to the Hope of those who knows God and His Ways of Love in His Person Christ. For they are a New Creation–a New Life–which is disciplined, trained, guided, and controlled by His Holy Spirit. Joy and peace is the enery of the everyday existence, regardless of their circumstances. Away with the message of human fear, vile, and discord, that is being spoken to us, and among us!
People of Dominica simply has to acknowledge this fact, that they might turn around and walk the path of Life, guided by Light–the traits of Love in Jesus Christ. And that goes for all people of Dominica, regardless of if we have spent all of our days on earth so far, in church. For most of us, who call ourselves Christians, are simply practicing “CHURCHIANITY AND RELIGOUSITY”, which is “NOT THE PRACTICE OF LOVE BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST”.
Whether we are Catholics, Pentecostals, Bapstists, Church of God, Gehoviahs Witness and whatever else we claim to be as PEOPLE OF GOD, we must turn away from the process and products of our human mind, controlled by our human senses (the Input of our flesh) and to allow the Mind of Love, the Mind of God in His Person, Jesus Christ to guide our paths.
We have no time now, to search for answers and to think that we can change things around by our own strength; for Jesus told us that no one knows of the day of His second coming, except Eternal Spirit, Almighty God. But He knew the signs and He spoke them to His disciples, who wrote them for the rest of us. Those things that are happening today, all over the world, not only in Dominica, are the things that must happen, the signs that should prompt us to desire to change our lives and to prepare ourselves for the return of Jesus Christ. The worst of days are yet to come!
Jesus told His disciples that the GREAT TRIBULATION will be so destructive that unless those days were shortened, “NO FLESH WOULD BE SAVED!” But for the sake of the elect, those days will be shortened. Matthew 24: 15 -28
Fellow Dominicans, you and I can survive the turmoils and torments of this present system of existence; and to know the peace and joy of Love that is in God Almighty, by faith in His Son, Jesus Christ. But this survival is a personal choice by faith; not a reward for being a Prime Minister or for doing any amount of great works in our society. The appostle tells us that we can do all sorts of good things, but if we are not a person of Love, our good works is still vanity. For when Love is demonstrated through us and in us, no one has the authority to question or object to that demonstration or authority in us. When we demonstrate Love, it God, in His Person Jesus Christ, who displays His glory through our attitude and conduct–the Work of His Holy Spirit who lives in us.
Hi Liz
Nicely said and I do agree with your candid and truthful comments. People take note and I have just recently learnt that lesson in another way. It is only what is done in love by faith in his Son Jesus Christ. Not good works mind you. Yes our attitude and conduct should display the glory of the Father (he is all glorious and only he deserving of honour) and this what is important.
Thanks to you, Watcher for Jesus. Let us continue striving to give the glory to God Almighty, He whom Jesus calls Father.
And the greatest of these is love. You can have all the gifts the bible speaks of but if you lived and didnt demonstrate the kind of love that christ has for his people, you will have some serious answering to do when faced with your true judge jury and exicutioner. Well said writier. We are acting too much in our Adam self (Adam-man) alot of us need to die now to live as Christ. More of us need to experience the true meaning of baptism. If half of that energy was spent in christ with christ i believe that this comment page would be empty.
Yes, we would no time to worry about the things of this worldly existence which is gradually passing away. 1st. Corinthians 7: 29 – 31
Some are already taking aim at Father Jolly’s response. As if he has no right to voice his opinion. When will one-sided Dominicans learn that others have a right to their own opinions. If it was designed for everyone to be on the same bandwagon there would be no need for elections. Some people just don’t get it. The people who see light from one side of their head should rewind their lives to reflect on what their positions were when a party they support was not in power. They said the same things and acted the same way as those who are today supporting the opposition.
Let us learn to call a spade a spade and stop crucifying those who do not share our view points. What makes it worse you do not even know who goes by the name of Surprise or whether or not he is a Dominican. A government official should make irresponsible and dangerous statements aimed at crippling a busniess establishment serving the community.
I cannot help but comment on the article which read Dominica recognized as the top in health care in the caribbean and compare it with the Charles Savarin/Jerry Brisbane saga.Good intentioned or not, it is sad that any person would publish an article on an issue that is not current with the purpose of achieving what??? Now Dominica does have a good health care system or is it primary health care system. Why can’t the Honorable Charles Savarin spend more valuable time talking about our good primary health care system rather than a citizens right to question whether things are being done properly with donors money. My lipstick is fading, I just gave health care a big kiss, got to go add more…lol
Yes, and though they talk about a good health care system, our leaders of Government continue to conduct and speak fear, vile, discord, and disdain, that does nothing to our healthy minds. But these useles messages simply distort our state of mind, causing to us to suffer the trauma of distress, that leads us to such despair and lack of hope, that we can even chop a person’s hand over the dispute of a scissors. We do not need those discouraging messages, and especially not from our leaders of Government? Let us just ignore them, for the protection of our own health, peace, and tranquility.
Good deal. Another reason for the DLP and its blind supporters to formulate a plan to discredit a righteous man who firmly believes in truth, honesty and righteousness. Father Jolly, we the civic minded citizens of our beloved country, support and stand in solidarity with you. Let the truth be told! One day, those who bent on fleecing the country through kickbacks, bribery and embezzle- ment will ultimately answer for their crimes. Dominica is now known to have the most corrupt government in the former British colonies.
Would you support him so well if he supported the Government side???????????????
Shouldn’t anyone who stands up for something they believe in despite the snares around dem be credited?? If not then why do we give credit to Martin Luther King and Ghandi?? They stood up for a cause that’s why even if it isn’t a cause of ours
Good and sensible article from Father Clement Jolly. Now what Charlo RoRo must do is call for a boycott of the Roman Catholic Church in Dominica because one of its acolades, the well respected Father Clement Jolly is supporting the actions of Jerry Brisbane.
Well respected………………. Is that so! Taking side when one’s role should be to encourage peace and not war. Pray for the Leaders… Be a role model to the young ones… They are learning fom us ….. All Three (3) wrong! Appology to the Nation from all three (3)!
“O Judgement, thou art fled to brutish beasts And men have lost their reason.”
You have surely lost your reason, sir
LATE, “please search your conscience, do you think you make sense?
Oh father Jolly. It would be nice for you to identify “other instances” where democracy is being threatened in this country. This is a country where “talkshows” litter the broadcast spectrum and at the same time those who complain that democracy is at risk are themselves actively involved in promoting, sponsoring, suporting and contributing to the discussions – most which though are uninformed. By simply saying that democracy is being threatened without a shred of evidence to prove what you are saying can be likened to Eddison James saying that “democracy is at risk” but at the same time is able to organize a march of protestors in Roseau without the permission of the police or the authority. In fact Mr. James did say on radio that he was not organizing a march and so did not require permission . He was simply staging a protest demonstration. The demonstration started at the parliament and then the march moved to Roseau. Was Mr. Jamesd and all those who complain of a fading democracy in Dominica stopped? May be you were following the developments from the comfort of St. Clemens.
I agree that the practice of democracy ought not to be a five year cycle. But to shout democracy is at stake here when the opposite is true is simply a no no. Those who shout about the “perils of democracy” in Dominica were a few short weeks ago taking the church to task and tear it to to pieces, accusing the church of complicity with “criminal wrongdoing” with the political hierach here, were they right then to seek to censure the church for not doing what they want the church to do whenthey wanted?
Mr. Brisbane’s letter must not be viewed in isolation. It is not a one-off affair. Mr. Brisbane’s letter must be viewed against his months of campaign in seeking to establish that the leadership of Dominica is corrupt, unethical and guilty of criminal wrongdoing. That campaign has been waging for months now. The letters are the latest in his efforts to “prove” what he has been saying. At best the funding support to Dominica should cease until, he Mr. Brisbane is satisfied that there are “safeguards to prevent corruption, theft and waste of friendly people’s money. That is my view of Brisban’s letter.
Obviously Fr. Jolly seemingly has been convinced by the media onslaught on the character of those who do not shout “democracy is at stake” In the democracy that we speak about, love and cherish, since when an individual’s silence is enough to condemn him as a “good for nothing”. Isn’t it a fundamental aspect of our democracy that a man is innocent untill proven guilty by a competent legally establisted tribunal? isn’t ist a significant aspect of our democracythat a man can choose not to condemn himself by invoking his silence? Isn’t that a major pillar of our democracy?
Since when a man’s guilt of a cilminal of unethical act is proven in the mass media. In the months of mudslinging, has there been an impartial arbitrator in the ongoing “investigation” to prove corruption? Can anyone identify any politically objective commentary on the ongoing discussion about who owns property? Who are the people fuelling the debate and onslaught on the character of individuals? Is that the democracy we would like to enforce?. For one to be tried and convicted of a criminal or ethical wrong doing on the basis of ones silence in the face of accusations? Have we lost faith in our institutions? Who are the promoters for encouraging a loss of faith in our institutions? What baggage do they carry? I am sure Fr. Jolly would resist any departing from the tried and tested institutions of governance and justice in the country. By the way. the Minister did not have to tell me where to shop. I knew already where I should or should not shop. Fr. Jolly is free to shop wherever he wants. In fact he has a right to express his opinions whether I like it or not anyway. I wonder if he and others will agree that I have a right to agree or disagree with them and if I disagree does that make me a criminal of accomplice of wrong doing?
You’ve done a very good job in expressing your take on democracy –what is democracy and what is not. What I also gather from your contribution is that we are dealing with a vicious cycle. While you are calling for more evidence , you are also claiming that one needs to be tried in the court of law. Let us not be naïve the evidence is there and you seem to acknowledge that there is evidence of official misconduct. The fact is – whether or not the governance will allow due process for a non bias investigation of government officials. The answer is no. The same would apply if UWP or DFP was in power. What we are dealing with is a system that is manipulated by those in power. The portrayal of ultimate power and immunity is definitely not what democracy is all about. If we tolerate such behavior from our officials now how can we complain later when part X is in power.
I am an independent minded person and I am weary of this corruption issue. Why not resolve this issue in a democratic manner. Let us open up an investigation and call it a deal. A democracy allows people to express their suspicions and even more the government is obligated to respond to the questions asked and to be accountable to the people. People become irate when government officials remain silent while the people are bombarded with ever changing stories by Mr Astaphan. That type of reaction makes me more than suspicious of those who hide behind an iron curtain and allow others to plead their innocent. I make no apologies for being placed on the jurry involuntarily. My suspicions and inclinations are based on the fact that Attorney Astaphan would not allow the accused on the witness stand.
A democracy allow people to express their opinion on the Jerry Brisbane letter as well as Brisbane is allowed to express himself freely. Is it not a mystery that Government officials choose to remain silent on matters that need to be answered whereas the government officials go all out to attack Mr Brisbane on a letter that he should or should not have written?
To those who treat the issue of official corruption strictly for political gain know that the eyes of the independent minded people are not glazed or clouded. I am not prepared to burn the messengers who happen to be those with their political agenda. After all message of the garbage bin fiasco turned out to be true; The flagging of the Villa ownership is definitely worthy of suspicion; and the convenient mistake in the payment of taxes on a land deal turned out to be true. The way our democracy work we should be more than happy for the investigation done by that agenda driven ones thus casting light upon what seem to be racketeering and grave misconduct among those whom we trust to govern.
I am happy that the Rev Jolly who is obviously not fearful of political retribution and is also not labeled as a politically motivated mud slinger can come out and express his opinion on the political climate here in Dominica.
wow! well said, you must be one of our educated unbiased and understanding citizens
And Fr. Jolly, isn’t charles savarin within his rights as a dominican to make his comments? You are too political and you should know better – judge no man.
Please stay on the neutral path and God will be with you. you bore your congregation to death and so I guess writing is better suited for you.
Thanks much! Wish Dominicans will open their eyes and see what is going on around them…Thank you sir.
As for Charles Savarin, GOD BE WITH YOU!!!
i really wonder what happening in this tiny country of ours. Are we too fast to forget, or do we forget what we want to forget and remember what we want to remember. Please stop this nonesense, not because the business man in question is your friend. If he is so your friend maybe you should take him to your place of worship therefore he will not go up the mountain to worship.
When Timothy cross the floor, the people were told do not shop at shillingford. People were also told don’t shop at Astaphans and to block the castle Bruce road to prevent Lauren from passing. Were these statement ok them. I have heard priest, pastor, DAIC etc come out and make statement about these statement back then. Today because Charles Saverin made this statement these people want to jump in his colour.
Honestly, I support Mr. Saverin, Jerry Brisbane is too damn out of place.
Mr. Saverin didnt even have to say that, cuz everybody knows the problem staff are facing down there. Have we stop to figure out why there is such a high turnover of staff, every week the a new staff enters brizee mat while one leaves.???????????????
Mr. Saverin, you are within your right and you have the interest of Dominica at heart. You are not the the sun worshiper and all those who are trying to bring you down.
What utter rubbish you write!! Dominica is mentally poorer because the ignorance exhibited in your comment.
Well I sppose judging from the modus operandi, the red army will declare war of father Jolly for doing just what his conscience dictates. Many Dominicans have lost their consciences, but thank God for those who will not sell their souls and will speak on behalf of justice, truth and righteousness! Who is next in line?.
not only the dictates of his conscience BUT the DUTY of his calling.
now that this priest has struck a note for a return to sanity SANITY . . . ALL men of the cloth from Bishop to Evangelist and all ranks in between should should repent in sackcloth and ashes for their misdeeds and deliberate misleadings.
Absolutely!! Martin Luther King jr. was a preacher when he took the street to fight for injustices in America, there were hundreds of black preachers in the struggle with him. Desmond Tutu the noble Prize winner was a Bishop when he fought aganist aparthied in South Africa.. Dominicans need to broaden their horizons and not to gullible to the silliness that Charles Savrin and Skeritt and Tony Astaphans are taeching them in Dominican. An uninformed, ignorant citizenry is a dictators dream, and Skeritt is capitalizing on that big time..
Ok so for the record, i was not in support of Savarin calling for a boycott bcuz to me that’s equal to a state-sanctioned boycott with him being a gov’t minister and all..
That said my beef is with this statement: “My suggestion is that the people of Dominica, as a show of support for this champion of justice, should frequent Brizee’s Mart particularly during this Christmas season. This would be just a small reward for being a champion of human rights which are being eroded in this country.”
How and when did Mr.Brisbane become a champion of human rights? I find this religious man is throwing terms around lightly. Ignoring all established foreign relations protocol and writing to donor countries and developmental organizations in no way, shape or form qualifies someone to be considered a champion of justice.
Don’t be intellectually dishonest Father Jolly it makes u appear biased. Mr.Brisbane is no Gandhi he is motivated by hatred of Skerrit in particular and the DLP in general.
your name suggest that you are ………….
what ‘s your beef with the catholic preist……….are you motivated by your hatred for the catholic church and therir stance on………….
see how stupid you sound?
That is true. Father Jolly may, or may not have realized that he simply prompted an emotion of fear and distress in our minds, about the future of our Dominica and us, her people. He, being a man of God should know that nothing is impossible with God, and to remind our people of that truth. Also he took the side of Mr Brisbane, with no further question; once again, telling us what we must do, based on his acceptance of Mr Brisbane conducts and attitude.
It was plain and obvious that he is on the side of Mr. Brisbane, and against Mr. Charles Savarin, according to the theme of this message. How is he different from Mr. Charlse Savarin? How is this message a message of hope to us. Is that not the only message that should come from a man of God, even if he uses examples of the conflicts of our existence to speak this message? People of Dominica, let us try to discern the truths for ourselves, God will show us how to do that.
well said
Men of God used to be men who spoke out in street corners against injustice. The church took care of them because they had no time to care for themselves. Today we see many enjoying the riches without doing the work. I am not Catholic but I say God would be pleased Father Jolly! He is looking for people whom the crowd does not like, He is looking for those who will speak and be stoned because others do not want to hear the message, He is looking for men who will be willing to be thrown in jail because they speak out about the evil in high places. Where are these men?
Why insult the Father. while he is just and merciful, he doesnot want us to stir destruction and strife. He commands us to be at peace with everyone. Both Gentleman were wrong. I would not waste my time to answer the Brisbane man if I were Charlo. I would think above that. A priest on the other hand is one who has to help persons to salvation and to encourage reading the word and obeying our Great Master. To actually take side is to cause more division in a small country like ours. To prolong a matter that has caused division and hatred. The role of the holy priest would be to talk to both parties together in order to bring peace and tranquility in an already political divided nation.
What the good priest has done is more wrong added to the already two wrongs that have already been committed.
All should appologise to the Citizens of this country moreso our young persons who are looking up to us as role models.
Both men are not wrong. Mr. Brisbane did what he thought he should based on the information that he had. He has a right to ask for vigilance ina time when millions are about to be spent on a house for the president. Any sensible Dominican irrespective of party should understand that. People need to read the letters themselves and see that it is not what Mr. Saverin and Astaphan make it out to be.
Mr. Saverin on the other hand as a Minister of Government should know what he can and cannot say to the public. Even though he was voted by labourites he took an oath to serve the country. He should have commended Mr. Brisbane’s efforts at promoting transparency. If he had done that no one would be able to talk. Even Mr. Brisbane would have nothing more to say. Mr. Saverin has become a mess. He seems to be a different man that he was before.
perfectly written!couldn’t be further from the truth! These men ,we youths should be looking up to show no example!
“O Judgement, thou art fled to brutish beasts And men have lost their reason”. and men of GOD ” Shepard” have forsake there duty and become political mouth piece.
“. . . many whom we revered for their sense of justice and integrity have seemed to abandon the path of righteousness”. You are doing just that!
Listen to the message! And stop attacking the messenger!
My my my, yet another one to climb the bandwagon.
I appears that there are some in Dominica who are hell bent on prolonging this matter.
Surely the people of Dominica have better things to worry about.
I do not recall any of these influential people making a statement on crime or child abuse. Instead they play on the things that they think the people want to hear about. There should be an award given to these people (a large wooden spoon), then they can keep stirring to their hearts content.
We are all intitled to our opions, but we do not need to have on a daily basis elite persons telling us what they want us to do or how we should think.
I’m begining to wonder if the sole goal is to divide the nation.
pple not suppose to say what they think!Dominica is in really a bad state right now!if you say anything slightly against the government you negative or you don’t love your country!that is total nonsense!
Anonymous
Yes we are entitled to say what we think, but we must think before we say.
Writing the letters was wrong. Asking for a boycott was wrong. Assuming we are beyond reproach is wrong.
Remember the old cliches: ‘If you cant stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen’. ‘Look before you leap’. ‘Talk is cheap’. ‘Too many chiefs and not enough Indians’ (to name a few).
Those who are jumping up and down causing mayhem are suspose to be inteligent beings, leaders of society. I certainly wouldn’t follow any of them across the road.
Too many
Can you please stop sounding so dumb.
I presume that statement is meant in general, and not directly at me.
If it is, I can assure you that I am far from dumb.
Education is a powerful thing.
The nation ia already divided and the sad thing is that none of the political leaders are not making any move to bring the people together no matter the effect it may have on the LSLAND..
Men of the cloth should seek to bring peace, amicable solution to disagreements. They should not seek but refrain from stirring strife and inflaming passions!
so wat must “men of rags” do?????
You using plenty big words papa!
men and women of the cCloth are charged with the responsibility of speaking out for justice. If they can’t do that, then we are truly finished.
whose version of justice are you speaking about?
i am not adding any more to what was written,,,,but i know most of the dominican electorate are catholic christians,,,,i’ll jus sit n read the responses!!!! make my day,,i take a time off
Well said