Three Chinese nationals, who are charged with theft of EC$104,705.00 from the National Bank of Dominica, have complained to Magistrate Bernard Pacquette that the conditions at the Stock Farm Prison, where they are held on remand, are “not very good.”
They complained of not getting enough food and sleep at the prison.
The men appeared in court today (July 25, 2016) and asked that the matter be “expedited” in order for them to return to China.
Speaking through a court-appointed interpreter, Yulong Xie said, “sleep is not well in the prison, we need a speedy trial to go back home.”
They complained that they have had no interaction with the Chinese Embassy in Dominica since their incarceration.
But prosecution told the court that the Chinese Embassy was informed of the arrest of the men.
Jianhui Wen told the court that while they have committed a crime, they need the process to trial expedited and complained they are not getting food at the prison.
“Not enough food…my belly not full, lunch is okay but breakfast and dinner are the problem, I need to make contact with my family in China,” he said.
Yong Zhong shared the same sentiments but also complained of the space in his prison cell which he described as “small”.
“We have our human rights also even if we have committed an offense, we get only one hour recreation, I need to see a doctor because I am not well,” he said.
The Magistrate ordered that he see a doctor but told him that “Dominica is not the worst place to be arrested as a foreigner and be placed in jail.”
The men’s lawyer is expected to further assist them in matters of food and other issues.
Wayne Norde is representing them but was absent and Peter Alleyne stood in his place.
They are lucky they are allowed to complain. In China
They would only be thinking about complaining in dream state !!!
Their discomfort can be avoided by not stealing and breaking our law.
The thought they were in a 7 star hotel ,they should shut up because if this was done in china they would not be able to keep any food in their tummy right now.. you know what i mean…
We Dominican can’t go to China and do these things so let them take what they get they weren’t complaining about the money when they were thieving it there’s where they belong
dough try that chinese dudes..
https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2014/jun/22/inside-chinese-prison-americans-perspective/
you guys hugup each other in chinese jails like is a Combayah Crusade.. F- Outta here wit that..
Oh plllleaseee…China has the worst human rights records in the world. If they had made that sort of complaint in China, maybe they would not even be with us today ok. You guys committed an awful crime on the tax payers and poor people of Dominica by stealing our hard earned monies, and now you want special treatment? Girl bye!
Girl bye!
You are so politically incorrect your PM must be sizzling.
I have followed China’s human rights violations for years. The statements from these Chinese nationals are as stupid as they are hilarious.
Just a short time back a personal friend of mine – the lead pastor of one of Canada’s largest inner-city Pentecostal Churches – lawfully entered China on invitation to speak at a pastors’ convention. While he was standing in the pulpit with his Bible open before him the police raided the venue, rudely pulled him off the platform and dragged him out, forcing him into a police van.
He is a senior who suffers from diabetes and has had three major heart attacks. He was literally interrogated for hours and thrown in a prison cell without being charged or seeing a lawyer. They left him there for several days.
He had no access to his medications essential to keep him alive.
The guards were vulgar. His meals were skimpy and irregular.
Miraculously, he was released and was able to return home where he was required by church protocol to give a report of how he was treated.
This Servant of God is highly esteemed in Canada. Sorry, but it did not help China’s image in this country, nor enhance whatever “tourist industry” they happen to have or hope to have.
Yet, men from China come to Dominica, are charged with robbing a bank, and complain about conditions in the prison? If they had committed this crime in China it is probable they would be executed. I hope Dominica requests an apology from the Government of China.
Sincerely, Rev. Dr. Donald Hill. International Evangelist.
“Dominica is the worst place to be arrested as a foreigner and be placed in jail.”
Good! Don’t come here to commit your crime.
Actually read the article again. Magistrate actually says
Dominica is NOT the worst place to be arrested as a foreigner and be placed in jail.
What they want to say ,china prison is better? They lucky they not on a chain gang rebuilding the roads at 40 cents a day. Stupes
Boy, I have not had a good laugh in such a long time, make my blood flow faster. Thanks much guys. Back to China, take your hard time in jail, belly will be fed with pig snout and dry bread with a little brown sugar water to bring it down. Human Rights, JAIL RIGHTS that there now. No special treatment. After you all done the time we will send all you back across the China wall.
Hahahaha
Dem man want to be wong and strong wi. Welcome to dca and I hope the.wheels.of justice grind real slow on this one
that is why crime don’t pay ! there is a lesson to be learnt here
don’t drop the soap!
dude u are a criminal wha u expect a suite
why all u making that discrimination agzins thoes poeple.if dominicain that get that chance in guada where ever they will take it to.ours nation like to tif.why all u dont seeing is human that there.yes is true they do wong.but stop the discrimination.evrn a pastor opening is wild mouth to take part in that.as a padtor your place not there.u suppose go in the jail and pray for them.stup.
Long..Long..time ago it use to be only bread and water boys…
But I doh understand these Chinese fellas man !!!!
So those men took $104 000.00 from a bank in Dominica, and they have the nerves to be complaining about food and sleep! Not having contact with their family in China; and demanding quick trial so they can go back home?
What would be the point of keeping them in prison if they were treated with luxury there? Well they are even lucky to be satisfied with Lunch; $104 000.00 would feed a lot of our children for a long, long time–did they not think about that when they were taking it from the bank?
They should not be given any quick trial; this is the time for them to pay for what they did; the court should take all the time they can, to teach them a good lesson–which is: \”Thou shall not steal\” and especially not from our people of Dominica
They want their own kitchen to make de chow mein. All the prison guards have to say to them is : Me no wonda stan.
If found Guilty put them to work on the about to be built Hospital.
Dominica does not have a very good Human Rights record does it ? Too many Pentecostals running their mouth on radio and doing nothing. But Mr Ching also know that in communist China he could’ve been killed for the same crime. Two evils pick one.
It is true that our remand conditions at the State Prison are below standard. Considering one is innocent until proved guilty. Only those accused of a very serious crime and those with no one to stand bail for them are held 23/24 hours, 3 in a cell measuring 8X10, with a toilet and a three tier bunk. It is essentially a cage with bars on three sides. I am not surprised that it is hard to sleep. Rich defendants accused of rape and even murder are released on bail to work and use the internet to influence witnesses. Dominicans held in custody overseas are entitled to a visit from their consular representative. Chinese should be too. There is a terrible queue at the courts let us hope the newly appointed magistrates will help to shift the backlog.
Many will find no problem with the deplorable conditions at the prison until they or their love ones and close friends end up their. some people believe that they can never end up there, all it takes is one unfortunate incident and then your nightmare begins . Prison should not be a place of cruelty but a place of correction. Dominica needs a new prison well design and modern . No wonder that many who enters through the prison gates are not reform. am appealing to the Govt. , the opposition the Religious and civil society to examine their consciences . We treat our animals with love and yet our fellow human beings just because they have found themselves on the wrong side of the law, and have become misfits does not mean that all they are good for is to be thrown away. I think that amnesty international should scrutinize that disgraceful building .Some livestock farmers builds better shelter than for their animals.
They should put them up in the big state house, after all is China that built it.
My boys you do ur crime just face ur time and stop complaining. it wont be you guys first or the last. Don’t come here and demand anything. All ur have enough from this government and still want to come steal maleway money. Bel Beff ba zor
Sadly they are only saying what they know will happen. A speedy trial by Dca standard. And mark my word, they will not take jail or if they do it will be very little because the Chinese will loose face in Dca and that my friend will not sit well with their government. Don’t be surprised if they are sent back to China under the pretext that they will go to jail on arrival.
Now them fellas look like they tired of serving as wives up in stocky so they pleading for help now but if is me that do that in China is execution. Garson take allu little buggar a shut up eh. Just do wine too rough
Always Assertive,
He is right. And while they have committed a crime, health standards NEED to be maintained because they are human also. Many of you who have never been to jail or prison will laugh and snicker, until it happens to you or a loved one.
If it was the other way around we would hear this. Three Dominican Nationals are facing the possible death penalty in China for theft at State Bank. They would never see day lights. Well there is no special treatment at the prison. If its good enough for locals then those Chinese better shut thier mouth and take what they get. Come and steal poor people hard earn money and even complaining. I should be the warden.
If it good for the neg poule it good for de Peking Duck
Dbarrow you actually think the conditions up there are good for anyone ? Because nobody taking on the neg poule when he has been complaining for years doesnt mean it is good enough for them. In 2016 prisoners still have to be relieving themselves in a pail, rodents walking in and out of your cells, dirty foam on dirty floor to sleep on. The jail and prison conditions are appalling to say the least. The Ministry of Health and the Environmental Health Unit need to see conditions and make a national report on the real situation. Ive heard when the bigger heads visit they never see what is behind the curtain, they are only shown certain areas to keep up good appearances. The jail cell at the police station i heard is also unfit for human occupation. The health authorities need to do their jobs.
NICE VERY NICE
best comment ever!! that was a good one.
Dominicans avoiding the fact is Dominica sinking big time, if our prisons are worse than China then it’s time this country closes down. Our population is under 70k!!! What are our funds being spent on? Seriously, people are still pooping in buckets? Prison is not suppose to be a hotel by any means, but it’s not suppose to be a cesspool either.
From their point of view they think the prison is bad. I suppose they are not aware of the conditions in China’s prison or they pretend to ignore it.
” if our prisons are worse than China…” ?
Are you suggesting that China is LESS developed than Dominica?
Well Ms/ Mr Dominican Passports, think again! China is MUCH more developed than Dominica. Tak a trip there one day and you will see. As such you should EXPECT most things in DA to be worse than in China. Dominica simply does not have the money at this time to concentrate of improving certain areas. There are other areas that must take priority, like dealing with the effects of tropical storm erika.
One step at a time. we will get there eventually.
So many dislikes for your comment. Im assuming that more people believe that prison is supposed to be a cesspool. What is the purpose of prison? is it to demoralize a human being and turn him against the system and administration through ill treatment that when he or if he comes out he is so broken, so untrusting of society and authority and downtrodden that it becomes impossible to conform normally and be a productive member of society? Here we have taken on that mentality of the slave masters. We have lost our sense of building each other. we revel in each other going through the worst situations then say that good for them. their nationality doesnt matter, nor does their crime. Treat humans like humans. I agree with your comments DCAN Passports.
@troof July 26, 2016
A human being who finds himself in prison especially because of mischievous and gruesome conduct has already demoralized himself or herself
This is hilarious, they want a speedy trial so they can go home ? ,that mean they have predict the out-come of the case ?,they are going home”‘ they should be incarcerated for a maximum of ten years that will teach them a lesson , and for others who try the same crime should learn from that , Prison should not be a fun place to be , China and Russia has the worse prison in the World and they are complaining ? come on give me a break, the Judge should not be lenient give them the maximum.
it means they already know the process. So stop wasting time. In the end they will be deported when found guilty. They most likely wont do a prison sentence here.
It is a fete accompli they know their fate they are going home so not a bad fate at all. We are well aware the legal attachment to the cabal the Caribbean court of appeal. Look at all the political decisions taken thus far more so look at Lintons cases( even if a no fan of the opposition leader) but fair is fair the judges meet with politicians and cases are set over a scotch.
China has given them monies to resettle their citizens etc memorandum of understanding. which the population is yet to see the CONTENTS.
They lucky thus far they haven’t been Raped by the thirsty/ swef inmates It was Sparrow who sang about never eat a white meat yet lots of D/cans never a yellow meat yet lol
these guys know well its just soon before they walk out that place and laugh Dominicans the next thing they know in Dominica they comes first and d/a people come last o.m.g
Conditions are bad my boys. Well if the Layou five (5) star Hotel was build i would suggest for you to be remand their.
That crime in China carries a death penalty. The person who tell you that you going home has lied to you. Maybe you should request some puppy chow
What a ploy so that they could be deported. They have the nerve to talk of prison conditions. If they had committed a crime in China, would the prison situation be better? I doubt it and far from that.
They obviously embarrassed their Chinese government. Therefore, the Chinese Ambassador may not want to as much as see them. I believe he may not want to interfere in Dominica’s judicial system and may be awaiting the outcome of this case.
Small as their size they want a huge plate of food? Just give them a huge breakfast, a huge lunch and dinner, if that is what they want. Oh! And give them some water to drink.
2 Roast breadfruit each and a bucket of and coco tea each for Bf , 10 corcoy and salt fish with a bucket each squash for lunch. Dinner dinner is optional choose from the two again. lol
And some Chinese Fried Rice. They love rice. I guess they expect a gourmet meal with soup as well, the first course.
They are bold. They committed fraud and they talk of wanting the case expedited quickly so that they could go home? How will they repay the bank?
They expect to walk out of prison and return to China Scot-Free? Those who commit such crimes are sentenced to prison. What if they are imprisoned? Probably the Chinese government will intervene then and a settlement will be reached.
Allow the case to take its course. No rush! Do not give them any preferential treatment. It may cause uproar among nationals. Remember the Dominican prisoners at Stock Farm. They too will expect leniency. It would be only fair to them.
thay not bold they know well we a Dom -in -cans
They have a lot of gaul. Can you imagine a
Dominican committing a crime in China
They wouldn’t see the light of day, much less
complain about the conditions. I hope they
make them pay back the money they stole.
They had help from some one on the island.
How they paying it back if they in jail?
*in my accent* all yuh should have kept your sticky fingers to yourselves. Stay dere and take all yuh blows! No preferential treatment
You made me laugh.
Human rights what about the human rights of the people whose monies you all stole. Had u all been in China you all would have been executed prison is not a hotel or a holiday resort that’s why it is called prison. In China the prisons are overcrowded and most of the inmates are left to rot. Be glad u are getting a nights sleep and food to eat. You did a crime…… .. For crying out loud u all really have guts them Chinese that’s what I call wrong and still strong…
Haha did he expect a five star hotel. He should have thought about that before committing the crime
China boys don’t worry you all are the top class Dominican citizens they cannot pull you out of the prison too fast for the Dommy-nicans to cry fowl … you will walk out of this free and clean just patience
Incredible
These are two men from China – Chinese nationals – complaining about human rights in Dominica!
They are in jail charged with stealing EC $104,705.00 from the National Bank of Dominica.
Complaining about not getting good meals. Not able to sleep. No contact with their embassy.
I dread to think what condition I would be in if I committed a crime like this in China!
The fact that China has done politically loaded favors for Dominica, and given you “handouts” does NOT give them the right to come to your beautiful island and literally rob a bank. They have been charged and they must face due process. They may not know what this is but they sure know what human rights are.
Obviously, they are trying to be sent back to China and escape a trial in Dominica. Keep them there long enough and I expect you will have more to charge them with. It looks like this is what they are trying to avoid.
Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. International Evangelist.
morning.for a pastor i fine you like bef .you a roro man.for the first time you surprise me.who is you to juge.are u God.take back your bible fast before ist to late.u is a pastor.you suppose to put peace and praeche love.God that s why i doesnt when to listen to all u.fau prophete
hahahahaahahahaah Proudofme U not good ou pas bon!
U did n’t know all pastors like beff? They carry too lol.
This here Pastor is like those guys in the 16 th,17th 18 th & 19th Century these guys were physicist,Botanists, religious scholars Mathamaticians poets, writers. Pastor is from that era
3 cheers for REV hip hiphip hooray Rev has finally made sense. See you finally got some common sense REV BC ur ideas on Marijuana etc were crazy Good 2 see U are coming around keep it up at least I got a little faith U will come to the other side . N.B not in a religious sense Rev.
look like U got a % th degree in Criminal Justice since ur last in Agro -economics lol!
Great job ReV.
CV
, Rev. Donald Hill. International Evangelist, Diploma in Drug science,, Agri-economics,
Criminal Justice, what’s the other one before U completed the CJ?
aye aye ..so you commit a crime and you want the comforts of a five star hotel!!! like jail in china is exotic…they go soon ask for tv and king size matress too!!! well I never hear more with these Chinese,is vole you vole,take what vole give you tan
“Dominica is the worst place to be arrested as a foreigner and be placed in jail.”
Worse than NK, Worse than China, Worse than Somalia, Worse, than Liberia… This should not be taken lightly
And the Magstrate sounds like they are proud to say that. Like that is something to boast about. Prison isnt supposed to be holiday, but it shouldnt infringe on people’s human rights. All of you who are reveling in their misery have never been it is obvious. but lets hope you never end up either.
Actually read the article again it says
Dominica is NOT the worst place to be arrested as a foreigner and be placed in jail.
But I find they come out…..
Has the learned magistrate so informed the Minister for Justice, the Attorney General and the Minister for Foreign Affairs
I enjoyed this article. A a Chinese have demands. When they get out of jail I hope they inform the Chinese Government that we need a new prison in Dominica.
A state-of-the-art one.with good toilets, a tennis court and whatever other amenities which will make their prison life enjoyable. This would not be a prison.
I am certain the government of China is taking note of their complaints and waiting for the outcome of their case.
Lol..too funny. New hospital, new prison, new bridge, new roads, new airport. Dominica totally made by China.
Frends U the Man! woo!
Best post yet If I were close to U I’d shake ur big toe!
Great Idea Skerrit should apt/hire U as his advisor and Fire the Phd guys lol
Maybe you won’t go and steal next time. Human rights? In China, crimes like robbery and selling drugs can be capital offences. Hush up and take your ting.
Really? Expidite the process for you to ho home?
If a Domincan had done that in China their head would be off their body long time. That person woul be history.
You think its a hotel. I guess you know what is in the MOU.
Lunch okay, breakfast and dinner too small. Accommodations too small. Concierge not helpful. One star out of four, would not stay there again.
I am positive the conditions in China would be much worst. Not to mention they would probably be beaten. And why do they assume after the “speedy trial” the only punishment is deportation?
so that free ticket home is whose expense? Ey those Chines have a kix…I nearly pass out laughing reading that.
Best thing U ever posted denizen! U coming to come like we say in local parlance.
Way to go Forest guard!
You all should think of that first before committing the crime, make them take prison before they run back to there country, when they go back is not jail they going to send them back smh
The saying goes that one is innocent until proven guilty.
Folks, be advised that there is no such thing as ‘hotel treatment’ (food & space) in prison.
Why did you come to Dominica and get caught up with criminal activity then complain about your human rights???????
They need to spend 10yrs there before the trail they not at there home this is prison they should think before they do the crime do the crime pay for it
Boo hoo. Stock Farm is a Prison, not holiday camp.
Surely they do not expect to have preferential treatment compared to other prisoners, some who have committed lesser crimes? Are they looking to be rewarded for such a major crime?
Has any of the monies been recovered? Or is it safely in family bank accounts in China?
Human what and China??? Man take all you blows like all other Dominicans. I don’t recall Dominicans getting any special treatment in other countries when they commit crimes. Any special treatment afforded to the Chinese should be extended to all Dominicans, plain and simple. No special treatment!
it is not an all inclusive five star hotel, it is a prison.
Lol what they believe? Foreigners go to one jail and the locals go to another? Or did they expect Stocky to be some sort of hotel? Garson welcome to Dominica!
Those Chinese have kicks too eh!!.I guess one (or some in that case) had to reach there to see the conditions of the prison. Perhaps they could bring up a case for thier government to build us a better one.
The exposure would be good for Dominica to get a new prison which the Chinese government could build..
I guess that did not consider that before committing their crimes.
Where did they think they were going to be housed – at a Sandals resort?
???????
Aa these men copawazor, you all left foreign, came to Dominica, steal people money and yall complaining about food and sleep!?!?! really!!! Even went on to say, you all would like to expedite the case, stupes moron stay where you belong, behind the prison walls of Dominica!!
Nah, the fact is Dominica sucks big time, if our prisons are worse than China then it’s time this country be closed down. Our population is under 70k!!! What the heck is going on? People still pooping in buckets? WDF?!
China has the second largest economy in the world, meaning that their jails are expected to have better conditions than the one in Dominica. Sorry but I have no pity for them. When they left their big country and came to our poor little country to steal our limited resources they should have also thought about the living conditions at our “5 star” remand facility.
Moron
helas.God .every body making mistake
Dem man not getting enough food ?
Now tell me if they work for food .
Surely there is some form of work they could get involved in to contribute for being fed in prison .
Bring them the hospital laundry and let them iron it , give them gongo peas to peal for de infirmary
bring police shoes for them to polish and shine ,keep them occupied .
they shouldn’t be getting everything for nothing .
Prison is supposed to reform , let it reform them .
They just mad because the prisoners whispering “Me luv u longtime” in their ears
lol check Sparrow in the 70’s hit
I would make it so bad for them all the other straight or crooked would self deporte and surrender passports on the their way out. They would not even ask for a refund. as Skerrit ,agents etc done blow their monies already or some in Swiss banks even in Panama.