As Allen Chastanet took the oath of office Tuesday as St Lucia’s new prime minister, one political scientist accused his United Workers Party (UWP) of buying victory in yesterday’s general election.
A perplexed Dr Tennyson Joseph, who had earlier predicted that the then incumbent St Lucia Labour Party (SLP) of Dr Kenny Anthony would have won no fewer than 11 of the 17 seats, but would likely take 12, said money likely played a role in the UWP’s 11 to six win.
“What we have been seeing in Caribbean elections is that we are trying to analyze them based on broad issues like issues of policy, development and leadership, but truly what swings those elections is money and . . . the people who can do the money thing better are very often the ones who can in fact win an election,” the Head of the Department of Government, Sociology and Social Work at the Cave Hill Campus of the University of the West Indies (UWI) told Barbados TODAY.
Keep allyou nose out of other peoples buisness.
There was too much truth in my comment as referring to the usual habits of the gov’t towards a blind population..hence the reason why my first comment was taken off.Thank you..
I take the point you are making Dr Joseph, but what I find kind of hard to swallow is the thinking that Chastanet, in opposition, could spend more election dollars than Dr Anthony, who had all the resources of the State in the palm of his hands. No way, Dr Joseph, no way!! UWP could never outspend the SLP. Same goes for us in Dominica. Linton can never out-spend Skerrit. So, Sir, we have to look at other reasons why Kenny took a licking. I hold that Dr Kenny Anthony is too ethical for Caribbean politics.
Chastanet and his family are rich. In other words, they have money. He may have used some of his own funds.
That is easy. Allen is a scion of the wealthy Chastenet family of St Lucia.
In other breaking news …. Agouti does poopoo in the bush!!! … SMH is this guy for real?
No, no, this is breaking news: My father is a man!
One thing I know the people of St. Lucia had spoken and spoken loudly too. Kenny called snap elections more than a year too early hoping to catch the opposition without pants because they had already began to feel the pulse of the people that they were turning. They realized they were loosing touch and doing what they want like Skerrit. As soon as the election was called 17 days before the date for the 17 constituencies, for election on the 6th of the 6th month in the 16th year of that century, Lucians began retaliating over those unusual numbers and said they were not going to get away with that. Were these numbers a coincident? Man better man, so Dr. Scientist, wheel and come again, you not ready yet. You sound like a wounded lion eating sour grapes
We are experts in St. Lucia politics too
You made a royal mess of yourself when you went against the results of a scientifically conducted poll. Just accept that, lie low and next time, stick to your area of expertise of which conducting scientific polls is not one of them.
Mister, according to Luciens, but the Doctor doh know there is a Ferry service from St.Lucia to Dominica; man if you want to witness or do research on the paying for and buying of elections take the Ferry to Dominica man and trust me you will end up writing two best selling books on the Dominica Labour Party methods which is not that different from the Labour parties methods in Lucian and St.Kitts ‘”meme bet meme plel” yow Sal……p hahaha.
mouth open torey jump out,well now all UWP famous DNO writer’s up in arms,they do not want to hear that beloved UWP counter parts and those at home can do something like that…no sah..that is a skerrit thing,but I will put my head on a block to say,when linton and his clonies went on there famous south American tour claiming to discourage Dominicans abroad from coming home to vote,it was the opposite,speaking in public but recruiting in darkness……,don’t let me write names…it would not be pretty
UWP from Dominica was campaigning everywhere in the world and the Caribbean paying for people to come down and vote. Them UWP Parties not easy nuh.
Dr
Are you citing Dominica as a benchmark?
@Anonymous June 8, 2016 \”I thought that the government in power have the most MONIES than de opposition so I did not get your point sir\”
I can see what you are saying here; and what I understand about this concept of MONEY BUYING VOTES is a false concept fed to the minds of those who will accept the voice of the enemy–whatever the side it belongs.
Your observation supports that fact, if the government in Power has the MOST MONIES –so they can afford to buy the votes against the Opposition , how come it went the other way around in St. Lucia?
People fail to realize that there is a Supreme God who continues to rule over them–His Principles is what will dominate where and through whom He decides that must happen
Man\’s authority is weakness to God; this authority cannot stand. The man who realizes that he is under God\’s control, he will always have the victory–for his wisdom, understand, and knowledge of Life s from God–but for His glory.
“I can see what you are saying here; and what I understand about this concept of MONEY BUYING VOTES is a false concept fed to the minds of those who will accept the voice of the enemy–whatever the side it belongs.”(Elizabeth Xavier).
Elizabeth, in as much as I hate to call you or anybody a fool I will compound it by calling you a damn fool, that is what Skerrit if famous for: that is what they do. My cousin Gloria, and let me make it clear, my late mother is Gloria Dods (Dodds) Shillingford biological aunt, her late father is my biological uncle; he and my mother were brother, and sister.
Gloria became Shillingford when she married one of my aunts son with the surname Shillingford. Gloria gave my Sister; her cousin, one sheet of galvanized, and one sheet of plywood eight years ago for her to build a house okay!
All my sister wanted was help to repair her house. This election, between Gloria and my other cousin Athena, they gave my sister a voucher for a little over twelve…
Continue Reading Elizabeth:
This election, between Gloria and my other cousin Athena, they gave my sister a voucher for a little over twelve thousand dollars to go to Portsmouth to Rudolf place to pick up materials they say. When they got there they were told “de voucher’ not good.”
I know you going to ask me if I say I rich, why can’t I help my sister. Well I have; she called me and ask me for money to do the repairs, I sent her even more than she wonted on two different occasions, only God know what my nieces did with the money. Let me tell you how careful I am. I been sending her money for years, through another relative of mine, by father who is nothing to her, and the reason I did that, is because I know people like you will ask; well why don’t you help your sister.
Then; I’ll say ooooooooooooppppppppssssssss! Ask such a such person how many times I sent money to him to give to my sister you see; so, that takes care of you and that question. Skerrit gives them the…
Finally Elizabeth:
Skerrit gives them the nail this year, next five years from now he will give them one sheet of galvanize, five years later he will give them a sheet of plywood; and that’s how he hooks them, that’s how he bribes them, so you need to shut up because you have no clue nor concept of what you are talking about.
All he did to hook you is E-mail you a mothers day card, which causes you to assassinate people in his name; Elizabeth Skerrit does not care about people, and I am talking from experience, by the way what I told you last night, read you E-Email, some people have text messages which can prove what I told you is true!
You insane creature stop using my name and my comments to tell your sorry stories of your personal existence–I don\’t know you and I could care less how sorry you life is and has been –tell it to your wives and bedroom nurses. Or better yet go find a psychiatrist –because you are critically MAD,MAN–as I have already told you, you need a team of working on you 24 hours a day–that is how critically insane you are .
You see all those nasty things you saying about me Elizabeth?
Be reminded that you know me very well, and I know you very well also, remember I know your telephone, and I know where you live too!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!
I have you pegged, so you can deny I know you as much as you wish, but is one thing I am very sure of you must remember this kid, Francisco!
Have a nice day; happy Sunday, and curse me some more, you little yellow woman; Giraudel Mountain Chicken!
You and your friend Skerrit are the only two human Mountain Chicken alive eh!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah!
White man calls it Quid pro quo .
Black man calls it bribe.idiot.
Quid pro quo: (“something for something” or “this for that” in Latin)[1] means an exchange of goods or services, where one transfer is contingent upon the other. English speakers often use the term to mean “a favour for a favour”; phrases with similar meaning include: “give and take”, “tit for tat”, and “you scratch my back, and I’ll scratch yours”.
Yes Dr. We know this very well. It happens in our country every election. Anything new you would like to tell us? Or do you just want to justify why your prediction was wrong? Man, money buys votes. No news!
you notice the names in Dominica and St. Lucia is the same? just that the Labour party had much more money so we beat all you to it. we put a spok in all you wheels so we won.
but didn’t Edison James said LENNOX CAN RAISE THE MONEY NAH? A……..A……. ONLY THE PAY KPB ALONE HE COULD RAISE THE MONEY? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
Tyson shut up, who do you anticipate believe your crap?
In that case you are insinuating that the UWP in St. Lucia went out and paid every St. Lucian to vote for them.
You are a liar.
Maybe you were paid in the first place do deduce some bogus prediction, now your voodoo mathematics failed you are so damn ashamed; saving face by talking rubbish.
I do not have a degree in political science, nevertheless there is something called deduction reasoning, and those of us who knows how to apply that part of science know that you are a failed fraud.
Get a job!
What happened in St. Lucia should have long take place in Dominica had Skerrit not been a master of buying votes, and dead people on the voters lists voting for him, and the expatriates; he would long become history!
What happened in St. Lucia should have long take place in Dominica had Skerrit not been a master of buying votes,-@Telemaque
Your saying above is an example of how futile the things of your carnal mind. Right here you are denying the man\’s suggestions–saying that it is crap and no one would believe it–because the winner is the UWP.
But in the same breath you accept the very same suggestion for the DLP in Dominica, as you said: HAD SKERRIT NOT BEEN A MAST ER OF BUYING VOTES—-so you are saying that in St. Lucia with UWP, there sis not such thing as buying votes. But in Dominica with the DLP, the devil is at work with that same suggestion–you are really a madman, you know!
It seem very clear that you are the one who needs to SHUT UP! For you are a BAD EXAMPLE for the young and ignorant people in Dominica–your level of contradictions is poison for them.
Elizabeth, if that’s you; tell me how many times you read in the papers that political parties, from Guyana, in the South, to Jamaica in the North at election time gives people money and food simply commodities such as rice, sugar, and flower to vote for any party?
Tell me on which island in the Caribbean you know the government in power buys building materials and distribute to people as an influence to get people to vote for them excepts Dominica!
Tell me where else in the Caribbean government gives people a quantity of materials not enough to build a house, yet they go out and vote. That is what Skerrit does to the fools in Dominica. Most people receive lumber, ten years ago, up to last election the received more materials, yet it is not enough to start building, never mind complete; they the wood sticks and galvanized packed away under their old shacks.
Their labor colleges go and thief it from them. Doh let me talk Miss Elizabeth, doh let me talk eh! When a man thief to…
Sometimes you should re read your posts and reflect on your other posts. Oops, oh no! you are a certified idiot lol
“there is something called deduction”(FE-DT).
This is a better choice of words: “Deductivereasoning,” which implies something characterized by the inference of particular instances from general law; deductive reasoning is based on reason, and logical analysis of available facts.
That guy opinion is not based on any fact! Anyway deduction reasoning, and deductive are practically the same with a few variables!
I thought that the government in power have
The most MONIES than de opposition so I did not
get your point sir
did you not notice the skin color of chastenet,the color of money`
Come on dude, wake up! All elections are bought, one way or another. Politics is about influencing others to accept and adopt your views, and money (lots of it) goes a long way in achieving that influence.
So…Doctor, what you’re saying in essence is that money wins elections in the Caribbean? Wow! This should be breaking news!!! I wonder if the Dominican UWP is reading!
Yes Doc, the Dominica UWP is reading clearly what the UWI guy wrote. But I want you to know that just as St Lucia UWP won the election without sending the kind of money Skerro spends here, our UWP will be victorious one day.
Sorry to say it but this guy sounds like one of those dishonest intellectuals. He knows damn well that what he is saying is untrue, why didn’t say anything when as he says ,the money was being spent? He is trying to save face because after the party he supported spent all their money the people rejected them.
I am surprised to read this. With politics, what else is new? It is nothing new which is usually said about buying votes whether true or false. However, I hope not.
I know someone who knows this new PM and his family very well. This person is elated that he is elected PM.
I was also informed his family is rich (has money) and obviously himself and that he is extremely hard working.
Being the new PM-elect, I can only wish him well and that he will serve St. Lucians to the best of his ability. Time will tell how satisfied they will be.
I personally know some St. Lucians and that all St. Lucians deserve a good, effective government. Time is needed to prove his capability.
God bless this new PM-elect and his government. May God inspire and guide him to exercise his responsibilities appropriately.
God bless the people of St. Lucia. May they all co-operate with their new PM and government. United we stand. Divided we fall.
God is watching from above.
to me that political scientist is like a Brer goat
Ebeh me de’ba
Many people made fun of Tennyson’s poll results. Remember Tennyson is an operative and former csndidate of the SLP.
The bottom line is the people were dissatisfied with Kenny Anthony and they let their vote do the talking.
A flawed assessment from the Dr. There. He cannot believe his assessment was wrong so he said it is likely money. As a UWI Dr. This guy should know better than to make that assumption without facts, concrete facts. That is sad. Wickham 20 points. Dr. Joseph 0 points.
I should add the Dr. Is insinuating that the people of St. Lucia is unable to make decisions based on issues. Before he jump to that conclusion he should have figures on the amount spent by the government compared to the opposition and he should hsve done a survey on the population finding info on whether they recieved funds to vote. I am not saying it is may not be the case but his comment seems to be speculation and for his qualification he should know better. I think he is trying to save face for being so far off and srcewing up his credibility in the precess.
Smh “are unable”..
Man if you want to see money spend to buy election come to Dominica..The people are begging,the economy is comatosed,institutions dead,agriculture dead,tourism dead but passports are alive…The amount spent on a by election in Dominica is probably more than what was spent by both parties together in St Lucia. I think LUCIANS are brighter people than Dominicans…They complained of BOBOL,high unemployment,a sluggish economy generally…I was in St Lucia weeks before the election, I HEARD!!!!Dominicas economy is worse though!!!Finally I think that if the governments of the OECS want to continue spending millions to import voters to swing elections in their favour,,,,,,THEN THE PEOPLE MUST STOP IT!!!No government is mightier than the people…
Against the masses that taking bribes are leveled.
Man, you looking fou; no wonder you are saying such madness. How can a competing party have more money than the incumbent party? Boy you Mad oui.
Elections every where is about money.money to pay pollsters,to pay media for advertising and live coverage,to pay candidates for agreeing to be contestants, to pay campaigners going around the country to pay for party material caps tee shirts,posters,to pay for transporting people to rallies all over the country,to pay bands and entertainers, to pays business people for supplying campaign material.it is always against that taking bribes are leveled against. While people in the region have always respected Kenny,we heard of some activities taking place in s l which did not sound good.i am saying they were true,but when you are in Government ,you need to assure the people that this allegations are not true,don,t be complacent that people will not believe.while i will not confront your opinion,i also believe that complacency also contributed to the s l p defeat.
“In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is a sort of advanced auction on stolen goods.” ― H.L. Mencken
Well Dr. Scientist
I don’t know the situation in St. Lucia nor anything about Mr. Chastanet but I don’t see how he could outspend the government unless he is a Donald Trump. I’m not sure why, if you are a social scientist it would be a surprise to you that the bigger spender would more likely have a greater influence over the voters. Campaigns, even policy focussed ones cost money to bring the message across. That’s the standard the world has set and that is how it has been happening in many countries.
Trump used his money in the USA to gain influence and to propel him to the position where he is now, pretending he did not need money from donors like other politicians do. He then turns around and is seeking “a refund” basically from the Republican party donors and it seems that they have no problem, as a party, funding his national campaign. It is almost a responsibility, so it is not a Caribbean thing. Not saying it is right but that’s the way it is.
You’re so right In saying that you do not know. Chastanet is a millionaire. However, I am not convinced that they bought the election. That must be a lot of buying since the margins of victory were enormous.
@Barbara Saunders June 8, 2016
So if the election in St. Lucia is a win for the UWP, without the idea of buying votes; why is everyone–including yourself– accepting that idea as a solid truth–wherever a Political election is called?
It seem a lot to me, that this is another lie from God\’s enemy–the devil–who is trying his best to tarnish God\’s glory. But he is a weak and wicked idiot through all of those who is allowing him to feed their minds–with him they are always fighting a losing battle.
lol..
padna you not serious.
you cannot call yourself a political scientist, and excluding money.