Quake moved Japan coast 8 feet, shifted Earth’s axis

Images released by NASA show Japan's northeast coast before, left, and after flooding from the quake-induced tsunami

CNN) — The powerful earthquake that unleashed a devastating tsunami Friday appears to have moved the main island of Japan by 8 feet (2.4 meters) and shifted the Earth on its axis.

“At this point, we know that one GPS station moved (8 feet), and we have seen a map from GSI (Geospatial Information Authority) in Japan showing the pattern of shift over a large area is consistent with about that much shift of the land mass,” said Kenneth Hudnut, a geophysicist with the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS).

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31 Comments

  1. TeteMorne I from...
    March 15, 2011

    Ahhh Gary, now we are friends. :lol: Much better.

  2. NatureBoy
    March 14, 2011

    To An Agnostic:
    Friend, you are right about God being a personal deity, as written about by many, especially in the Bible. He is not an abstract creative force. He has a personal name, Jehovah or pronounced Yahweh also. He has personality, feelings, qualities, standards etc. He created humans with the potential to reflect these qualities and personality as well (i.e. in His image, Ge.1:27). Thus God is not a ‘humanlike superpower’. He is an INDIVIDUAL SPIRIT BEING – A REAL PERSON WITH A SPIRIT BODY, with a personal name by which he chose to call himself(a Hebrew name full of rich meaning), and a perfect personality with well balanced qualities.

    Science has NEVER and can never DISPROVE the existence of God. Rather, their discoveries give further proof of his existence – eg. patterns in living things that are TOO OBVIOUSLY the results of DELIBERATE INTELLIGENT DESIGN. for eg. our brain, eyes, immune system, the solar system, the water cycle, nitrogen cycle and countless other precisely fine-tuned systems and objects.

    With such a personality as revealed in the Bible and shown in His creation,(eg. love, power, wisdom justice, generosity, creativity, even a sense of humor as seen in many of his animate creations), Jehovah God certainly DOES NOT ‘listen to the prayers of apes and show “signs” by having people forget their car keys one morning or slaughters random babies’. And the Bible certainly DOES NOT tell believers today ” not to eat hooved animals, to kill witches and homosexuals, and to worship a jealous man in the clouds who would happily kill off a planet (though this has yet to happen) for kicks.” All these absurdities – you are correct in that assessment – MISREPRESENT the the wise, loving, just personality of the God of the Bible. These false teachings also hide God’s purpose for creating earth. Many religious leaders FALSELY claim God to be responsible for suffering and injustice we face today, claiming that ‘it was God’s will, God needed more angels in heaven,’ etc. Many religious fanatics commit attrocious crimes in the name of God – such as crimes against homosexuals etc. While God has his standards regarding human sexuality, He does not authorize believers today to execute or otherwise persecute those they feel don’t live up to God’s standards.

    So, sadly, such ones who claim to know and represent God and the Bible, really give them a bad name. And this sadly affects thinking people like yourself. But there are those who properly represent the Creator and his Word, the Bible. Search them out. Or they may have found you already. Please give them a listening ear. They will explain from the Bible WHY SUFFERING EXISTS IF THERE IS A LOVING CREATOR, and WHEN AND HOW WILL SUFFERING END, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF LIFE, HOW CAN WE GET TO KNOW GOD, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE, WHAT IS GOD’S PURPOSE FOR THE EARTH, and many other important questions.

    Finally, my friend, your last argument regarding the size of the earth compared to the vast universe, actually argues FOR the existence of a Creator, for think: Just imagine: are there deserts where you live? Or icy wastelands? or a valley of desolation if u are in Dominica? Anyway, picture yourself walking in such a vast, un-inhabitable sandy, rocky, or icy desert, then coming across a beautifully painted, attractively designed, strongly built house. You enter it and find that the inside is even more beautiful, well furnished, with heat and air-conditioning, the fridge is WELL STOCKED with ALL the food for enjoyment etc etc. you get my drift. Good. Would you conclude that since this house is only a tiny speck in a VAST DESERT, then it must have came by chance, made itself, decorated and stocked up itself, equipped itself for survival, and all this for NO PURPOSE whatsoever? The answer is obvious. SOME BUILDER CHOSE TO BUILD THIS HOUSE IN THAT EXACT LOCATION FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. you would have only to find out WHO built it AND why he chose to build it there, and for what purpose he did all that DELIBERATE CAREFUL work. Now you can apply the same reasoning to planet earth, for the earth is EXACTLY LIKE THAT HOUSE IN THE DESERT OF THE UNIVERSE. That’s how the scientists you say you trust describe it.

    If you want to know who can reason further with you along those lines, properly representing God and the Bible, please let me know. I’ll be happy to put you in touch with us/them in your area.

    All the best.

    • An Agnostic
      March 15, 2011

      NatureBoy,

      thank you for the civility and thoroughness of your replies thus far.

      However, you said a number of things that I don’t think are correct and/or are leaps of logic. For instance, you claim that science can never disprove the existence of God. This is true. However–and this is crucial–the inability to disprove something does not make it more likely to exist. Science cannot disprove the existence of invisible pink unicorns, the god Thor, the goddess Venus, a teacup floating between planets seven trillion miles away–but this does not make any of those things any more likely to be real or true. The argument about an inability to disprove does not, therefore, mean that something is LIKELY. I will clarify here and say that I do not believe that a personal deity does NOT exist with certainty because no one can know that. However, I think it so unlikely as to be almost negligible. I hope that distinction makes sense.

      Next, you said that science “proves” God. Obviously, this is a misuse of the word “prove” since we could not be having this argument if God was proven to exist. The only thing that our complex minds, etc. show evidence for is evolution. The rest of the universe shows evidence for the Big Bang. It is not impossible that a Deist conception of god set the Big Bang going. But the crucual difference is that if this is so, it is a tremendous leap of logic to give this thing human attributes and to furthermore claim that this has anything to do with ancient texts. The Deists believed that god, whatever that is, only set the universe going; after that, no more involvement. Deism, therefore, has nothing to do with personal deities and therefore nothing to do with religious texts, and although it is not scientific in the sense that no “Deist god” has been found, it is the closest to “god” that most scientists will go. Einstein himself aligned himself most closely with this conception of things.

      I think you are using the word “god” in many ways simultaneously, which causes confusion. The one way I accept using the word myself is in the Deist way outlined above. This way is not synonymous with the personal God of religious texts. If I say a Deist god created the universe, this is NOT the same as saying the God of the Bible did. The Deist conception may be nothing more than a piece of science we do not yet understand, just as black holes and the expanding universe were not understood in the nineteenth century.

      Your example about the house in the desert, while charming, is flawed because if that desert was so uninhabitable, I would not be alive in order to find that house. :P Furthermore, Earth is far from perfect. We cannot survive on most of it because most of it is water; most of the rest of it does not provide enough resources for us. But such is life. By creating weapons via techonology, we can dominate most animals; remove the weapons, and we will easily be defeated by many animals, and, if not animals, by the weather. But nature is not pretty and nice. One thing eats another. Our bodies are filled with microorganisms surviving off conditions in our body, and many of us have or get parasites that feed off us. We rely on other life forms to survive, and they on us. We may be smarter than them, but we are not really better than they are. Nature can be savage and violent, and that is simply one aspect of life.

      Finally: the reason I say the vastness of the universe lends evidence to disproving a personal god is because it does not make sense for the rest of the huge universe to exist if Earth, an insignifcant planet, one among billions of billions, is the metaphorical center of it. And if alien life form exists, and it likely does, this suggests that creation myths, which privilege humans, are indeed myths. You see, these stories make sense when one thinks of the universe as more or less just the Earth. By thinking small, you seem important. So the writers of the Bible likely thought, knowing no better. But in this day and age, with the Hubble Telescope and the Large Hadron Collider, such a worldview does not seem possible or even relevant.

      This does not mean that I do not see any value in the Bible. Jesus, whether or not he was real, was in many ways a wonderful teacher. But you can believe in his teachings without literally believing in the rest of it.

      I will leave you with the thought that, whether or not you agree with me, you are an atheist yourself in regards to other gods, unless you believe in all gods. Do you believe in Zeus and Thor? While I am not an atheist per se, a real atheist only goes one god further. It’s a funny truth I hadn’t realized until recently, and it puts the term in perspective.

      Thanks for your kind discussion, and I hope to hear back from you or anyone who wants to civilly put their thoughts on the table.

      • NatureBoy
        March 17, 2011

        Hi Agnostic,
        I also appreciate your frank, polite expressions.

        First, my statement that science can never disprove the existence of a Creator was both in response to your claim that “‘God’ is a completely unscientific answer”, and to contrast with the fact that the Bible’s description of the way living things are designed and operate and reproduce, are in complete harmony with scientific discoveries – facts. Thus there is much evidence that the concept of “God” as the Creator is scientific, but no evidence that this same concept is unscientific. For eg, scientific experiments and observation have proven that living things require deliberate design and well-coordinated energy to create what was designed, whereas no amount of experiments seeking to produce life from non-living matter, or to produce perfect symmetrical designs often found in nature, from a random explosion(big bang) has ever succeeded to prove that a Creator was not needed. When a bomb explodes, what is the results? Order and beauty and new species formed? Or chaos and unsightliness and some species present wiped out?And true science is based on 1-OBSERVATION 2-THEORY FORMED BASED ON OBSERVATION,3-EXPERIMENTS TO TEST THE THEORY, OFTEN USING CAREFULLY CONTROLLED VARIABLES, 4-CONCLUSIONS FORMED BASED ON RESULTS OF EXPERIMENTS. These true scientific procedures prove, rather than disprove, the existence of an intelligent, powerful creator. Yes, “God”, who’s name is Jehovah, is very much scientific.

        Also, I understand your use of the term Agnostic – that it’s not possible to know whether a god or gods exist or not, and that you think the possibility is so tiny as to render it negligible. However, meditating more on the wonderful world around us and comparing it with what the Bible says can help you to accomplish what 1Chron 28:9 says: “… If we search for God, He will let himself be found by us..” Even if you don’t believe this, what will be the harm in doing a thorough investigation anyway? Nothing to lose. Much to gain. You life will take on new meaning.

        Next, regarding the use of the word “prove”, remember the truly scientific method of coming to conclusions. Using that method, many things can be proven even if you cannot literally see them – or see them AS YET. For example, from observing the consistent pattern in the elements discovered so far in the PERIODIC TABLE, scientists long ago concluded that other elements MUST exist, to fit into the ’empty spaces’, so to speak, in the table. Even if they did not as yet know the elements, the evidence showed clearly that these elements existed. Sure enough, in time, the ‘missing’ elements were discovered. So even if we can’t see God(for some humans, as yet, since the Bible promises that some will be resurrected to spirit life heaven and thus will see God as humans can see each other), the evidence clearly proves that He exists. Remember, we can’t see air, gravity, black holes, magnetic fields etc, but their existence is shown by their effects. We all accept this. God’s effect is clearly seen in the universe around us.

        Which leads me to clarify one point. I agree that deism, is different from belief in the God of the Bible. I refer to God in only one way – as the God of the Bible, with his own personal name, as I mentioned several times – Jehovah. Deism has many concepts that are out of harmony with the Bible, one of which you mentioned, namely, setting evolution or the big bang in motion, then leaving it be. On the contrary, the Bible presents God as being interested in and guiding his creative works until His purpose for them is accomplished. But scientists cannot prove that a big bang leads to orderly creation of perfectly orbitting objects obeying precise laws of physics. Take the big bang in Hiroshima, Japan, 1945, for eg. What did it lead to? Nor have they been able to prove that organisms evolve, what drives and directs the evolution so that a perfect brain will result then KEEP REPRODUCING MORE PERFECT BRAINS instead of more brains evolving. They are mute when it comes to explaining why two different body parts or organs or components that NEED each other to exists in the first place, evolved SIMULTANEOUSLY! how did evolution ‘know’ that one needed the other, so one would not evolve because it depends on the existence of the other? what force changed the claimed pattern of evolution, things developing g r a d u a l l y over billions of years, to accommodate body parts that must come into existence at the exact same time? Archaeologists have never found any brain missing spare parts that had not as yet developed!

        Then you say that ‘if the desert was so uninhabitable, I would not be alive to find that house.’ That’s a technicality that you are resorting to that’s flawed by evidence – because the rest of the universe is uninhabitable, yet we are still alive to find the earth in that cosmic desert! And all the earth’s wonderful systems work to keep the earth ‘surviving’ and renewing itself. Discovery Channel and the likes, while touting evolution, actually teach creation unknowingly, for they give detailed explanations of the wonderful, reliable systems that keep earth able to support life.
        Regarding earth as the center of the universe, this was a myth that science has long disproved. The Bible nowhere claims that the earth is the center of the universe. The reference to alien life forms is purely imagination, since scientists still have yet to fine even a single living cell outside planet earth’s atmosphere. Even water in liquid form has not been formed by Mars rover or any other explorer, So this point certainly cannot prove that Creation account in the Bible is a myth. This would be actually using a wild dream, a fantasy, to prove that someone is guilty of lying.

        Now, an atheist does not believe in one god, nor in 18 million gods. A believer in god, whether he believes in one god, or in the existence of 18 million of them, is not an atheist in any sense of the word. Double check the definition yourself. As an analogy, I don’t believe in SANTA CLAUS, FATHER CHRISTMAS , OR THE BOOGEY MAN, but that does not mean I don’t believe in humans.
        The three I mentioned are just fantasies, myths, the creation of man’s imagination, as are fabrications like Thor, Zeus, Baal, Asherah, the goddess Venus and millions of other deities fabricated by man.

        Finally, I’m glad that at least u see some value in the Bible, including Jesus. A closer study on the Bible with the points I just discussed in mind, will help you analyze the matter further and arrive at a reasonable conclusion. I have two brochures on this topic that I think will AT LEAST make interesting reading to a science-minded, thinking person like yourself. How can I get in touch with you, if you are interested? The 32-page, well illustrated brochures are entitled: “THE ORIGINS OF LIFE – FIVE QUESTIONS WORTH ASKING” AND “WAS LIFE CREATED?”. They are not designed to try to ram creation down your throat, but to provide actual scientific facts and discoveries to stir thinking and motivate one to investigate further. The Bibliography provides all source material for double-checking or further research. Please let me know how I can get you one or both if you so desire.

        Best regards.
        Take care.
        NatureBoy

  3. God sent
    March 14, 2011

    It would not take to long before you cry out to God for help and we will see if he is real or not patience and this is a promise!!!!

    • zoro
      April 27, 2011

      God sent- that was my exact sentiments to a you-tuber- who laughed said there is no God.

  4. Yupp!!
    March 14, 2011

    Ammmm is this an atheist rally or sumthing?? :-? anywayyyyyyyyy what are u gonna say to those thousands of ppl out there that are seriously in danger, dying, alone, grieving etc “want a cookie??” now is not really the time to be fighting about whether or not there is a God….i believe that there is a higher being than man itself….or u agree that we came from the big BANG…..our parents did ‘bang’ alright LOL! believe what u please i just rather be safe than sorry ;) …. will keep japan on my heart n mind n PRAYERS

  5. J.J.John-Charles
    March 14, 2011

    My agnostic friend,God Almighty don’t have to prove his existence, because He is answerable to no one.Nevertheless He has done it .I am reading from the Living Bible Romans 1:19-22.

    “For the truth about God is known to them instinctively;God have put this knowledge in their hearts.
    Since earliest times men have seen the earth and sky and all God made,and have known of His existence and great eternal power.So they will have no excuse (when they stand before God at judgment day).
    Yes,they knew about Him alright but they wouldn’t admit it or worship Him or even thank Him for all His daily care.And after awhile they began to think up silly ideas of what God was like and what He wanted them to do.The result was that their foolish minds became dark and confused.
    Claiming themselves to be wise without God they became utter fools instead”.

    Sir, look up to the heavens and tell me.Who put the sun in space and cause it to give us light in the day?.The moon and stars to brighten the night.? Don’t tell me they just put themselves there, and operating in sweet harmony.
    For your information read also Psalms 19:1-3 also Genesis Chapter 1 and in verse 31 we read.
    “Then God saw everything that HE HAD MADE and indeed it was very good.”
    I don’t believe that you are a fool,Do you know how the word of God calls an atheist?

    “The fool has said in his heart there is no God,They are corrupt” etc.and this can be found in Psalms chapter 14 and 53

    There is a song I would like you to learn and sing along .Sang by Nicole C Mullen.

    Who taught the sun where to stand in the morning?
    Who told the ocean you can only come this far?
    And who showed the moon where to hide till evening?
    Whose words alone can catch a falling star?
    Chorus
    Well I know my Redeemer lives
    I know my Redeemer lives
    All of creation testifies
    This life within me cries
    I know my Redeemer lives.

    Go to Google and type…I know my Redeemer lives and click on the title.

    I wish my Savior is your Savior too….God Bless You.

    • shatta
      March 14, 2011

      a novel u was writting man

    • Gary
      March 14, 2011

      To J.J.John-Charles

      You have a right to your opinion as to what makes you believe in God or what God means to you.There is one thing you got to understand, that is any concept of God is man conceived, secondly, why is it you think that it is only through the Bible someone can know God and using the Bible as your reference to point out that there is a God as though that is the absolute verification proof that there is God. What you are saying is that the concept you have based on your religious beliefs of what God is that should be the the concept everyone should accept. Well the person who is Agnostic does not accept your concept and you have no right to say you concept is right and he is wrong, you are only entitled to your belief and what your religion taught you.

      Your opening statement to the The Agnostic quote “God Almighty don’t have to prove his existence because He is answerable to no one” that shows a little arrogance on your part in that you want to answer for God and defend God simply on your puny understanding and concept of God. One thing we have to always remember is that the unseen things are the cause and the seen things are the effect now what is that unseen thing that is responsible for the effect and, yes you have pointed to some of the effects such as the sky, the rising of the Sun and the most important thing is Man himself. You made reference to Genesis1 verse 31 but I will also ask you what about Genesis1 verse26 what is that about God making man in our image and not his image, who is that our. Then read Genesis 3 verse 22 what is that about the lord saying that man has become like one of us knowing good and evil, and not like him single God, isn’t there something disturbing about the so called God in Genesis..

      • only
        March 14, 2011

        Nobody really knows, at least that is living on planet earth these days.
        The bible was written by man. Some people just think they know something because ‘it was written in the bible.’

        Many of us have faith and a knowing that there is a higher power and we have different names for this higher power. We feel and see manifestations in different ways……..but do we really know anything?

        If we really want to get diverse in bible interpretation on Genesis, there may have been aliens that came at one point and made us in their image or they made themselves in our image. Who really knows.

        People need to think about where their beliefs came from and then re-think everything while there is still time.

  6. PAIN
    March 13, 2011

    That’s the begining of sorrows. Earthquakes here and there? The price of gas is on the increase? Lack of jobs all over? High cost of livingall over? The tumbling of governments…

    Watch out, Jesus is coming soon! Very soon too!

  7. Perfection
    March 13, 2011

    :oops: -so sorry.

  8. yoland J J
    March 13, 2011

    Mat 24:2-12 And Jesus said unto them,see ye not all these things? verily i say unto you there shall not be left here one stone upon another,that shall not been thrown down.And as they sat upon the mount of Olives, his disiciples came unto him privately,saying, tell us when shall this things be? and what shall be the signs of thy comming, and of the end of the world?Jesus said unto them,Take heed that no man deceive you for many shall come in my name saying I am christ and shall deceive many.And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: SEE THAT YE BE NOT TROUBLED:for all these things must come to pass,but the end is not yet.For Nations shall rise against nations and kingdom against Kingdom.And there shall be famines,and pestilence,and earthquakes in divers places. All these are the begeinning of sorrows.( take note and let not your heart be troubled but look up for your redemption draweth nigh the lord is at hand prepare to meet your GOD o ye people of the world.not what those false prophets are spreading that judgement day is in may. look up for the lord is coming again make sure that you are saved. all what we are seeing are signs of his coming.ARE YOU READY?

    • only
      March 14, 2011

      This has all happened several times before in the history of the world.

  9. KTS
    March 13, 2011

    This was a true earth quake…. The whole earth quaked!!

  10. An Agnostic
    March 13, 2011

    I fail to see why any of this has anything to do with “god.” It’s an earthquake. Earthquakes happen almost every day. When they get powerful enough, the surface feels them. It’s a natural phenomenon. Furthermore, this was NOT the strongest earthquake in our planet’s history; the strongest we’ve recorded was a 9.5 in Chile in the 60s. I’m sure people were ready for atheists to spontaneously combust then, too–but what happened?

    Besides, if your “god” wanted to prove its existence, why not just show itself? Why use a natural phenomenon? And why (above all) focus on a tiny planet in a universe so incomprehensibly enormous that our planet might as well not even exist? How is an EARTHQUAKE proof of a divine being? Do you see the leap in logic you’re making? Sure, it’s a big earthquake, but it’s not the biggest natural disaster to have occurred–not even the biggest earthquake.

    Before you start an argument, start reading up on the history of science (and religion, for that matter). I have, and I’ll only continue to argue with someone who wants to make a coherent (and non-abusive) argument.

    • NatureBoy
      March 14, 2011

      Agnostic, I agree with you that an earthquake is a natural phenomenon. It is not in itself necessarily proof of the existence of God. However, the Bible, which reveals God to us, is in full harmony with science, when it touches on scientific matters.

      For example, science has proven, along with pure common sense, that NOTHING exists without a maker/designer/creator, that EVERY EFFECT has a CAUSE. The evidence is obvious all around us – machines have designer& builder, watches have extremely skilled designers&builders for them to keep precision time. This fact is in full harmony with the Bible – Heb. 3:4 – “Every house is constructed by someone, but he that constructed all things is God.” Who can refute such scientifically proven common-sense logic?

      Even the watches built keep their timing based on the precise movement of earth and heavenly bodies, which move with such constant precision, following well-established permanent laws of physics, that they can be RELIED UPON to base time-keeping on! So would it make sense to believe that the tiny watch needed a maker, but not the INFINITELY LARGER, MORE COMPLEX, MORE ORDERLY, MORE PRECISE universe?!?!?

      Science has also proven over and over again, that physical life (the only life many scientists acknowledge), only comes from PRE-EXISTING life. They have NEVER EVER been able to produce life from lifeless matter. Thus, they have never, and will never prove that life arose on earth spontaneously from non-living matter. The simple explanation at Genesis.1:12,21,25,27 is in full harmony with all observable scientific facts – all living plants and animals were created “according to their kinds.” And so they continue to reproduce – according to their kinds. No amount of cloning has ever been able to produce a viable new ‘kind’.

      God will not ‘show himself’ to humans because we will not survive the experience, much as our eyes can’t survive direct exposure to the sun for even a few moments – and the sun is 93 million miles away! Obviously the God who created that sun and countless others much larger than it, is infinitely more glorious than his mere creation. Exodus 33:20.”No man may see me and yet live”. You should be happy that God doesn’t show himself physically.

      However, God shows proof of his existence in ways that HONEST, HUMBLE hearts and minds can observe and comprehend and accept – (Romans.1:20. – “[God’s invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made…so that they,[atheists & agnostics] are inexcusable”] His creations give irrefutable evidence of his wonderful invisible qualities, much as a beautiful, well-constructed house gives tribute to the skill & creativity and taste of an architect/builder. Thus, disbelief in God is” inexcusable.”

      We certainly do not want to be like many who refuse to acknowledge the existence of an Almighty Creator, Jehovah God (Psalm 83:18), in the face of undeniable evidence, simply because they do not want to feel accountable to Him. Psalm 14:1 – “The wicked one has said in his heart ‘There is no Jehovah’”. Hopefully, you are NOT one of those ‘wicked ones’.

      Thanks for expressing yourself and inviting friendly response. I hope this helps you reason on the matter. Your response will be appreciated as well.
      Take care.

      • NatureBoy
        March 14, 2011

        Correction – quote from Psalm 14:1 says:”The senseless one (‘fool’ – KingJames V) has said in his heart, there is no Jehovah.” Senseless” refers, not to lack of intelligence, but lack of moral sense.

        • An Agnostic
          March 14, 2011

          Um. God is not a “simple” answer at all. In fact, “God” is a completely unscientific answer. By “God,” I mean a personal deity, like the one that ancient humans wrote about in ancient books and cults. This thing, a humanlike superpower that listens to the prayers of apes and shows “signs” by having people forget their car keys one morning or slaughters random babies, is an absurdity. There is no evidence whatsoever for such a thing, and you have to admit this yourself. It’s true that the universe “comes” from something, but if you study astronomy and theoretical physics, you will come to realize that the origin of the universe we live in (which may just be one of many universes) is not simply a matter of “coming” from a deity or not coming from one. Stephen Hawking’s latest book claims to show how universes can indeed come from nothing, and Hawking is regarded as the smartest man alive today. Your reasoning comes from an ancient book that tells you not to eat hooved animals, to kill witches and homosexuals, and to worship a jealous man in the clouds who would happily kill off a planet (though this has yet to happen) for kicks. You tell me what makes more sense: choosing evidence and science (the same things that allow me to trust a doctor) or faith (the opposite of evidence and science).

          Furthermore, the very size of the universe suggests the great unlikelihood of a personal deity. There is no sense in creating billions upon billions of galaxies, trillions of planets, and reaches of near-empty space too vast to cross in billions of lifetimes if humans are the center of the universe, right? And yet, that’s what we live in. We are tiny and likely insignificant.

  11. MAD
    March 13, 2011

    THATS TO LET U’LL KNOW THAT JUDGEMENT DAY IS NEAR. GOD IS COMIN FOR HIS WORLD.SO WE NEED TO REPENT.

  12. Lougaoo Mem
    March 13, 2011

    Subduction zone earthquakes is nothing new to the planet. Especially in and around the “Ring Of Fire”, where most of the activities take place due to the many tectonic plates in the zone, under tremendous presure. We need not to worry, because the very volcanic actions that once formed our islands, may or may not be kind to us, and likely change things to its destiny. It’s all in the schemes of nature. What I know? Lougaoo just checking nature out while sipping tea in the neck of the Morpo woods.

    • TeteMorne I from...
      March 14, 2011

      You have to be a lougaroo to find yourself waaaay up there in Morpo. Just kidding…Morpo is cool!

  13. sackwaygas
    March 13, 2011

    Oh My…and allu taking god for joke…play with god still….think it ez..all it take was 20sec’s n see what happen

  14. TeteMorne I from...
    March 13, 2011

    Wow, amazing! Some of you atheists b etter believe in GOD or something. Who/What can cause the earth to SHIFT OFF its axis? I am in awe! Happy Sunday eh….

    • Gary
      March 13, 2011

      Your comment is so laughable nonsensical Why is it that what NASA tells you is proof to acknowledge God or believe in God. I will ask you this, have you ever found out who and what is NASA and the people in NASA before you make such foolish statement about God Your comment tells me you are a believer more in what NASA tells you rather than getting to know the true attributes about God. Why is it that people like you always make God the reason or cause for disasters when they happen.

      • An Agnostic
        March 13, 2011

        Thanks, Gary. It’s just so unfortunate that so many people in Dominica would be willing to take any natural disaster as a sign of “god” rather than anything natural. But this is what a lack of a good education, which is unfortunately difficult to come by in the island, causes. What we need in Dominica is better education for more people. Too often, we teach as if we live in the medieval ages and let religion control everything we say. No progress can come of unquestioning belief.

      • TeteMorne I from...
        March 14, 2011

        My dear eduated Gary:

        Please DO not blow a gasket today. Why are you so miffed? Aren’t we FREE to express ourselves without being ridiculed? I am in awe of that earthquake. Whether God cause it, or allowed it, it was phenomenal! By the way if you wish to question other people’s eductation, go check out the Protesting Nurses blog! You’ll be shocked! :mrgreen:

        • Gary
          March 14, 2011

          To TeteMorne I from.

          I’m not trying to blow any gasket today as you think. Yes, i do agree with you when you say that we are all free to express our self without being ridiculed, absolutely and please note I’m not there to question peoples education as you would want to believe, I’m just trying to make sense of what is happening just like you and yes i may have a different opinion or belief but that does not make me any greater than you, that was not my intention at all. As you can see your comment did raise some flags, which shows that your contribution was not in vain at all. i did not get it, what is it about the Protesting Nurses blog.

    • Frodo Baggins
      March 13, 2011

      I can’t begin to imagine what kind of “God” would constantly keep killing thousands of children in these earthquakes.On the other a hand natural disaster is easier to believe in than an “act of God” i refuse to believe in such a ruthless and murderous God i will believe in what science can prove and what my eyes see.

      • An Agnostic
        March 13, 2011

        A wise hobbit you are, Mr. Baggins. (But seriously, I agree with you. Whenever a natural disaster hits, religious fanatics announce the end of the world, and it never comes. And if it did…what of it? Earth is less than a speck in the universe. We are less-than-microscopic primates in a universe over 13 billion years old. To give an earthquake religious significance…)

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