Acting Commissioner of Police Cyril Carrette says a forensic lab established by and for the OECS islands will save the authorities of each territory the wait and expense of sending material overseas for analyses.
“If Dominica were to do it on its own, it would be too costly. Everywhere needs one but you cannot cut your nose to spite your face,” Carrette said.
The commissioner was at the time responding to media queries on the police’s ability to solve crimes that are almost entirely forensic-related without seeking outside assistance.
“I do not think there is any other way you could do it. It is very expensive to maintain a forensic lab,” Carrette said.
He added that personnel and equipment that will have to be invested is “very, very expensive”.
“I think we can only do that collectively. For instance if the OECS decides to do it and it decides to do it collectively then I think it would work that way,” the acting chief said.
Are you kidding me??? In this century?? The last time I checked we are an INDEPENDENT NATION!!! What can’t we invest in things like that? Why do we also have to wait on the U.S or elsewhere to do that? What are our officers not being trained in forensics?
I am sorry Mr. Carette but you are just pissing me off with this nonsense statement of yours?? stupessssssssss
When will Dominica ever move forward with technology? What a Damn Shame. That’s why I will never return to live in Dominica.
You deserve to go in the Hall Of Shame: Commissioner of Police Cyril Carrette : for saying something like that!!!!!!!!
CArette C. Is a total fool. He is an embarassment to this country in every way much like dominica’s sad prime minister. This is why murders will continue to happen and this is just the beginning. they cant even match a finger print in this sad country…….Poor u Dominicans…Everywhere needs one but you cannot cut your nose to spite your face,” who says these things…Get real people where in 2010 not the 70’s where it seems we’ve been stuck in for the past 40 years
Man no wounder the chief is still acting, them man dont have balls , the only sing and mal palay other officer,when are we going to need this and need that ,thats why we will never move forward……………. man kiss my a…………………….
Despite of what is going on in Dominica right now, the island have one of the lowest crime rate in the world. The murder rate is a mere 0.0289733 per 1,000 people.
Now the crime lab I mentioned in another post which would cost $US6 million in the US was a lab that would serve three counties in the US. So it is a rather small lab. A top notch lab like that of the FBI would cost twenty times more. I know we need some crime solving capabilities but with such a low crime rate building and maintaining a forensic lab is just not feasible for a cash strap island like Dominica. It would be cheaper to send the samples overseas for analysis. And remember it takes a number of years for a crime lab to be certified.
I think with the crime wave in Dominica right now we should concentrate on crime prevention and attacking the roots of crime. We could have the fanciest crime lab in the world and the best police investigators but crime won’t stop unless we attack it at it’s roots.
@Saddened, all governments in the world build and maintain some kind of state house as a symbol of their sovereignty and national pride. The US have its White House, Russia has the Kremlin. All other countries have theirs. So why can’t Dominica have a state house where we can welcome visiting dignitaries with pride? Suppose the president of the US decided one day to visit Dominica? Where would you like the government to welcome him? In a mud hut? In an aging state house? I am sure Saddened you have a nice place where you live and takes pride in. I personally have no problems in building a modern state house for Dominica. Even Haiti have a one, although it got damaged by the recent earthquake.
We need to start thinking outside the box in Dominica. Such statements by the Acting Commissioner of Police, Cyril Carrette is an embarrassment to the institution. You wonder why so many crimes have not been able to be solve in Dominica. We have to many actors in Dominica. I am surprise he did not say: “Dominica not ready for dat yet”. We need to put people in position of authority, who ask the question, why not? rather than just saying we can’t. That “we Can’t” attitude is a disease in Dominica; we need to get rid of that attitude.
The Government of Dominica should be able to reach out to Canada, USA, and England for help in setting up a “state of the art forensic Lab”, I use the word “state of the art”, since everything that is being build in Dominica these days is labelled as state of the art. Some Joker stated recently that Dominica leads and the other islands follows, I wonder to where? We should stop waiting to see what others are doing. I think if Dominica push to have a Forensic lab, it will benefit Dominica, a great deal.
Stupes… We don`t need an international airport, we don`t need a forensics lab, we apparently don`t need anything in this country
@Chief: But Chief, they going to build a NEW State house uselessly, for over 15 to 20 million dollars?
Why reinvent the wheel…How does B’dos and some others do it? Go to work thinking of ways, assistance from Canada for example maybe? It all can be done. He is just one of the unsophisticated citizens who needs get out there , widen his experiences, from the decadence that’s all he and others know going and sitting at headquarters day after day – not knowing much of how things are done around the world. There is still hope.
Ok too Expensive to manage and maintain a Top notch Forensic Lab in Dominica but something needs to be done see how long it took for forensic evidence to get back to the appropriate authorities after that ( Bajan guy ) body was discovered…at least the police officers should be schooled on ways to do some basic forensic stuff properly secure and collect evidence…We Need to Step up Dominica im sure we can ask for assistance from the US,venezuela,china and other countries in setting up a forensics lab but are we too proud to ask theses day ?
There is no way we should compare what its going to cost us to Establish a Lab with the US the crime rate in the U.S is 1000 times more than in Dominica i would think that would drive up the cost of operations more than anything else but thats just my 2 cents
tell the pm give us some of the venezula money and the chinees will put the rest . i as a Dominican is already studing that so i will come back home to do the job
i would love to do phorensic science but when i think bout it , it does not make sense, if i go to study what woud i coome back to do ,,,and u want ppl to go study n come back to the country,,,,stuppes,,,,
@Chief:
Chief, in my opinion you are the only one thus far who displays analytical thinking in this discussion. Just thought I’d let you know.
Not only might the purchasing of equipment to begin a forensic lab be too costly but think about continued maintenance, certification, etc.
To have a forensic lab would be an ideal but it may not be realistic right now.
According to a 2008 Crime Lab report it will cost at least US$6 million to build a new crime lab in the United States. In EC dollars that is over $16 million. Setting up just the DNA section of the lab costs between US$750,000 and US$1 million and will cost US$250,000 annually to keep just that section running. It will cost at least US$3 million in annual operating cost to keep the lab running. We are talking the United States here. Can you imagine how much it would cost in Dominica?
Realistically can Dominica afford it?
OK, well can they at least buy some finger print kits???? We are a done set of jokers in this country.
Three weeks ago, I called, still waiting for them……No one even called.
No respect for them, all day long sewoing in government van, but whne you call they do h have ride.
They too bus looking for small man with a spliff……
I still waiting for alu to come and check the voleh fingerprint.
LOSERS…
@Chief: They won’t SAVE lives but will at least help with solving crimes in this country. Too many murderers and other criminals walking the streets of Dominica.
I am disgusted by this response to be honest, for a police officer to state that the means of accurately solving crimes and actually convicting the guilty is just to expensive to undertake is ludicrous to me especially seeing the vast number of police vehicles being utilized for social activity. When you call the police station they never have vehicle to come to check a crime but they always have for them to go to any action it have.
have you ever thought about establishing a forensic lab in conjunction with the hospital laboratory where they would also be able to utilize the same technology?
In case you are blinded to the growing trend I shall shed some light in the dark for you. Dominicans are becoming more reluctant to speak to and testify on behalf of Police. More and more crimes go unpunished. What is the purpose of paying a police force to keep law and order in the country when they are incapable of doing so?
Why don’t we just outsource Police and be done with it. A forensic lab is not something we can allow to be shared since there will be delays simply because we have to ship the items to the respective country and we will never be chosen as the destination simply because we lack an international airport hence I propose that The decision makers head be removed from his rectum and allowed to see the horrors which creates the necessity for such a facility.
Besides if we establish one I’m sure it would be cheaper for the other territories to send their samples to us for analysis and obviously a charge for said analysis would be put in place hence it may actually be profitable in the end.
@Wait a minute: And how having all these equipment going to SAVE a human life?
@Chief: None of these equipment is worth more than a human life.
With the rising rate of serious crimes (most of them unsolved) on the island one would think that trying to secure funding for a forensic lab would be a priority for the gov’t and police force. In the meantime we the law abiding citizens just have to stand by a watch fellow Dominicans kill each other and get away with it. I guess the police will continue doing what they do best, raiding people’s houses at 5 in the morning looking for marijuana.
If we have to wait for OECS to do anything…… we will never get anything done.
Obviously, solving crime is not on our agenda.
Once again we think narrowly, in the now, never in the future.
Instead, Why don’t we anticipate a huge growth in the population (that shoudl be our goal right???)
and
anticipate the accompanying increased rate in crimes of all categories
and then
choose our services based on the future projections of population size, crime, etc…
An example of our lack of future planning:
The airport – in 10 years time they are going to need to upgrade again…
The size of roads being commissioned – we, are going to have to upgrade and make changes to accommodate increased traffic.
STOP PLANNING FOR TODAY. PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.
Are we saying that in 10 years time we won’t need such services? If we did it now, the cost would be justified when the need is really there, and we could make money by providing the services to other countries who are THINKING LIKE US…….saying it is too expensive.
So give me facts, HOW MUCH WOULD it cost?
Is this mere speculation without factual evidence?
Has any cost assessment and analysis been done?
How much is it costing us to import human resources, and export our testing?????
This is so stupid coming from this man …, well it will no t be so expensive to allocate lands to bury all the dead in Dominica.only looking just in front of their faces nothing for long term CRIME is on the rise we need capable people and ways to solve them.Take away some of their pay use it to fund the lab BUNCH OF WORTHLESS OLD BAGS.
All them policeman doing is drink rum and sex!! Lazy MFs!
Not every state within the United States has a forensic lab but most depend on the FBI forensic lab to assist in solving crime. Reason? Crime labs are indeed very expensive. So if some of the states in the richest country on earth cannot afford a forensic lab, how can Dominica afford one?
Do you people know that one comparison microscope cost US$57,000? What about the price of setting up a DNA unit or purchasing XRF microscopes which can do trace evidence analysis (specifically gunshot residue)? And these three examples are just a tiny part of an overall crime lab. And remember you have to pay specially trained people for running such equipment and they don’t come cheap.
You people are being unrealistic.
A step in the right direction.
Go for it, Acting Commissioner of Police Cyril Carrette – that’s one of the most sensible things you have said since being promoted.
Now if you guys could return to the old Bristish style of trading policemen between islands (OECS only) – then we might have quicker police reaction when it comes to crime solving.
It too expensive but is for a GREAT CAUSE! Is not to say the work will go in vain….he need to stop talkin BS
Cost should not be the only prohibitive factor that prevents us from catching up with the rest of the world. Why can’t Dominica take the lead with a state-of-the art forensic lab, and the other OECS countries come to us for assistance? That would be too enlightening for the Dominican State of Mind. We must never lead, be innovative or front runners. Our sole mission in life as an independent nation, is to wait on others so that we can grow. If they remain at a stand still or regress, then we regress also. If we keep up this brilliant attitude and way of thinking, we will continue to be on the road to nowhere as we are right now.
It is I the thinking idiot once again… even if a forensic lab is costly to be maintained… we could have a small lab that could do the basics of forensic analysis… I mean everything else in this country is not up to date and speed… at least a small lab would be maintainable and save some time… like a lab dedicated to ballistics or fingerprinting at least… oh well shrugs… you guys may never get it right… God help this country…
thinking idiot —
Knowledge talks, wisdom listens!!!
Well well well instead of Dominica go forward, we going backward. If we had some reliable justice system in place, all those criminals would not be walking free today.
Those people that saying we don’t need it more criminal than ever!
bull.. u need to join the force so u can take a police vehicle go and fomae woman, drink rum and get incentive on your salary
but i do agree with you we need tof ind out who are killing
Mr. Carrette
u said it to expensive for such lab my suggestion to you all and the government all those drug man you all knows about they not working no where you all need to take the money and maintain, cause they not working no where to have that money TAKE IT
timbok 2 i can see a police hurt you nah or u want to go on date with a police and the van
fire bon them police
So unless somebody else does it we gonna be left on the back burner? Understood
It is too expensive? But even a second thought about the benefits that can bring? Perhaps this will lay the foundation for our development as a human species. It does not matter?
It’s funny how the Government can spend million of dollars on all kind of crap. Dominica needs this forensic lab like yesterday. OK….Palace verses Forensic Lab?
It’s funny how the Government can spend thousands of millions for all kind of crap. Dominica needs this………Palace verses Forensic Lab
all them police vans allu buyin to go on date…doh take for the police white van in possie..while allu should be patrolling the town is woman allu strolling with…
So if someone kills tomorrow, evidence reaches base in 2-3 days…come back a week later…boy that killer would have time go bk door…I wonder if they ever thought of a serial killer….hmm…
carrete you are just a puppet.you just say and do what skerrit wants u to say.
Allu spending money on vehicle e for police to pomae woman and go and drink rum, allu that have more incentive in allu salary, spouse support and all kind of … but allu find it too expensive to find out who are the ones killing the fabric of our society. Stupes