Court orders illegal Haitian to pay up

Haitian national Johnson Dosina has been ordered to pay a fine of $2,000 by 3 pm today or face four months imprisonment.

He pleaded guilty to the charge of overstaying brought against him before Magistrate Evalina Baptiste at the Roseau Magistrate’s Court yesterday.

According to the facts of the case, Dosina entered Dominica on May 1, 2008 and was permitted a month’s stay. However, he remained in Dominica until August 12, 2011 and was arrested while trying to regularize his status.

Dosina admitted to Police that he had not previously attempted to regularize because he was afraid of being sent back to Haiti, in spite of the fact that Haitian nationals had been granted amnesty following the earthquake of January 2010. Police prosecution recommended that he be removed from the state.

The defense argued that other than overstaying, Dosina had been a law-abiding and was gainfully employed and begged for the court’s leniency in the matter as the defendant had not wasted the court’s time by pleading guilty.

Magistrate Baptiste stated that she does not believe that Dosina hesitated to regularize his status because of fear, since all fear would have been negated by the amnesty. She levied the fine of $2,000 and emphasized that she was being lenient to afford the defendant the time to come up with the amount and noted his objection to being removed from the state.

She did however, grant bail despite the prosecution’s objection, in the sum of $9,000.

Royston Mitchell, Dosina’s employer, stood surety for the defendant.

Dosina is to report to the Roseau Police station every Tuesday between 7 am and 7 pm as condition of his bail.

The trial to hear the objection of his removal from the state is slated for November 14, 2011.

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53 Comments

  1. Anonymous
    August 25, 2011

    A Dominican Canadian presently living in Montreal,Hatians i have seen the plite of Hatians. Many countries have opened their doors to Hatians. Qudos to Dominica for opening the door for our black brothers and neighbor. Those people who are complaining about this incident have really nothing to complain about.

  2. August 23, 2011

    Eh, eh…But WHO de hell mo evil than the Demons that make up Nato??? WHO is destroying Haiti…Voodoo….NO. It is nato. Use yuh eye and tek ah look at all ah de woomen and dey chiren dem ah gun doun yestahday in Tripoli, dat dem ah done do in Haiti OUR island naybour!

    • killing is killing.
      August 28, 2011

      YOU ARE AJACK ASS. WHY DONT SHOT THE HELL UP.YOU FULL.

  3. nice boy
    August 21, 2011

    please to the law if there is someone living in dominice and is giving problem thay got to go we dont need this in dominice if hes not please give him a break there is a lot of us dominican living out there like that and to the dominicans that is geting good cash for doing nothing must stop saying dominicans a lazy. in dominica the ones that work hard a the ones that dont get good pay and when we go out there we do get a life and have things must of the time. thats how we get to come back and give something to our people and to those dominicans that a out there and can go home and dont want to please go to dominica and have some river and some good fun no where can be like dominica thats why i take time off my work and go home 1 & 2 times a year. one love to all my people

  4. sand his as back.
    August 21, 2011

    I OVerstand. we all need a better way of life but,the haitians are too wicked they bring too much voodoo on the ISland they are distroying my country,they should sand all of them back.

  5. August 18, 2011

    Well, like one commentator did say, many Domeeneekyan cah kom back aftah Dinosaw years (sad)and aunty, sister, bredah, onkle cah sen fuh you because dem ah dodge immigration. Dis is true of udder West Indians too,who also had de chance to be leegal but yuh dem West Indian, dey mentality is, “WHY DO TODAY, WEH YUH COULD DO TOMORO”. De Haitian only behaving tuh form!!!

  6. papa
    August 17, 2011

    this doesnt make any sense at all the man and everyone else on island was given a perfect opportunity to make his stay here legal and longer and he choose not to go and we shud feel sorry for him. Isnt he aware that he was here for one month? D man has been on d run all that time and now his caught we have to feel sorry for him. Y wrong doing in this country is ok for all? where is our standards here? All north south east and west have dem illegal hatians immigration do all u work.

  7. August 17, 2011

    Nah man Nah man, all ah you too neggative. We seeing de Chine billing buildin and we see dem sen back money tuh china, eh eh giv de fellow West Indian and island neighbour a chance to survive nah.

    • Observer
      August 17, 2011

      The Haitian man maybe contributing more to society than some a lot of Dominicans, especially those criminals we give a slap on the wrist and let them go free. I know law is law, but I think we just too soft on violent crimes, and situations like this shows something is not right with our justice system.

  8. REASONING
    August 17, 2011

    How could he be considered law abiding when he has broken the law by overstaying the time given to him?

  9. REASONING
    August 17, 2011

    Wherever i go as a Dominican,be it the BVI,Guadeloupe or Antigua,once i’m caught living illegally i am being sent home with no hearing.Some of us are even being imprisoned for overstaying,so what is it in Dominica?It seems we have become a free for all,so far as i can see that’s the only island where it’s citizens are not protected by their government.

  10. firstlady
    August 16, 2011

    this is absolute rubbist to charge or imprison a man for trying to earn an honest way of life to survie, you have countless dominicians living all over the globe in the same situation, have a heart u people in Dominica, and by the way here is some food for thought Hati is the only country which will welcome any free negro to stay with no question ask and u can make it your home according to there constitution.

  11. Nathaniel Peltier
    August 16, 2011

    This is becoming more ridiculous than anything else. A lot of the comment speak about people living in different places Illegally but as someone said when you get caught they send you home. Overstay 3 years. Know what they do to people or companies who employ illegal aliens? They shut them down. This is so mad. In Dominica they are even allowed criminals to post bail for there illegal aliens.

    • Observer
      August 17, 2011

      There are a lot of countries that give illegal aliens an opportunity. They are not always just sent home immediately. Some end up staying permanently.

  12. August 16, 2011

    in light of the fact that there is in place an amnesty for haitians and since he has prove to be law abiding. I ask for pitty on him and adjust his status in the name of compassion in Jesus name.

  13. vip
    August 16, 2011

    yes he needs to be discipline ,but remember Dominicans are running from the country and majority of them are living illegally in the states.Ask why many of them cannot return to Dominica after dinosaur years.ask your aunty ,your mother ,your father why they cannot send for you ? i know alot of them in st.thomas ,newyork.

  14. Conscious
    August 16, 2011

    I find the justice system here in Dominica unbelievable. A man convicted of grevious bodily harm is given by the Court several months to come up with a relatively small amount of money (sometimes less than $1000)to pay his fines. A Haitian who has done nothing wrong excet to overstay his welcome (and there is compelling extenuating reasons why he did) is granted only a few hours to come up with $2000 or else he faces four months in jail. It appears to me that there is a critical need to revise the laws of this country so that the penalty suits the nature/level of seriousness of the crime. I know former Magsitrate Tiyana has spoken on this subject as well.

  15. islandgyal
    August 16, 2011

    free up d man..he here not doing nuttin wrong…just tryna work and make a living…REAL REAL TALK!!!!!!!

    • possie rush
      August 16, 2011

      eh hen, if you was haiti or santo and you had overstay one day you would see what would happen to yu, all now so you would be in jail without identity and when they do let you go, you tebeh, they not even spending money to deport you, you on the street like a zombie, so let the haitian take his blows eh, we have laws here

  16. big boy
    August 16, 2011

    WHEN WE OVER STAY IN THEM PEOPLE COUNTRY THEY SEN US RIGHT BACK TO OUR COUNTRY.NO MERCY IS SHOWN TO US . SO IF THEY MAN OVER STAY AND THEY CAUGHT HIM SEN HIM BACK.I AGREE WE OVERSTAYING IN THEM PEOPLE COUNTRY ,BUT WHEN THEY HOLD US DO U KNOW THE PENALTY. HOME SWEET HOME

  17. FORKIT
    August 16, 2011

    think of the money we can make, 50,000.
    00 x 2000.00= 100,000000.00(one hundred million) on haitians alone, i did not even mention santo domingans,venezulans,cubans and a few illeagal russians..
    we could pay off or defecit in one go

    • FORKIT
      August 16, 2011

      sorry i forgot to add a few chinese

    • August 16, 2011

      HAHAHAHA
      BOY U SICK BUT U HAVE A POINT THERE

  18. Anonymous
    August 16, 2011

    Leave the man alone. Haiti in a crisis now. D/ca I’m disappointed! All of us ha family members in states, uk and canada or rather all over the world.

    • possie rush
      August 16, 2011

      So, that dosnt change the price of coffee

      • naturalistic
        August 17, 2011

        i kno ryt…so he have to invade our country??while our country goin down d drain u doe seein england puttin visa restriction on us..n guadloupe have us in tie????us alone da have to feel it man?

  19. Amber
    August 16, 2011

    I would like all of u who speak so negatively to plain out SHUT UP!if u all were in the Haitians place you all would be singing a different song!

  20. August 16, 2011

    all u dominicans need to CLEAN ALL U BACKYARD!! HOW MANY OF US ARE ILLEGAL IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD??? time will surely tell! i guarantee u!

    • Anonymous
      August 16, 2011

      True. My lives in new york since 06 to present without papers. They shud ha mercy on the poor haitian.

    • naturalistic
      August 17, 2011

      i legal..have my documents to prove it..

  21. naturalistic
    August 16, 2011

    they should send all of them home..jus overcrowdin d country..tsk tsk tsk!!

    • August 16, 2011

      Agree with you a 1000%. regardless of what some of you say Haitians do not like Dominicans, wherever they land they are not welcome, many of them are on the way to greener pastures, going backdoor,on their way out of Dominica they are all putting curse on the island, Chinese are investing, Haitians are destroying, wondering is he is not one of the hundred,s of prisoner who escaped Haiti after the quake, just wondering

    • Anonymous
      August 16, 2011

      your time will come. you are one of the lazy Dominician

      • August 16, 2011

        I don’t care what you say, haitians need to go back to their country. At least you can see what the Chinese are doing but go to CAMBIO MAN at the end of any fortnight and you will see them in droves sending all the money back to their country. We have no benefits in haitians being here and they still want to play rude and fresh on it. When we go to other countries most of us work hard and help develop the economies of these countries. Haitians are working only for themselves. I SAY SEND THEM THE HELL BACK, ALL OF THEM. SHAIT MAN. I’M FED UP

      • August 16, 2011

        TO “ANONYMOUS”
        THE CHINESE ARE TAKING APPROXIMATELY 9 MILLION DOLLARS FROM US EVERY YEAR TO SEND BACK TO CHINA, WHILE THEY FILL OUR LAND FILL WITH CHEAP CHINESE CRAP (CCC)
        AND SOON YOU GOING TO SEE MORE CHINESE BABIES HERE THAN SEA SAND.
        HOW MUCH MONEY ARE THE HAITIANS REMOVING A YEAR?
        THAT IS WHY WE BLACK PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS STAY BACK, BECAUSE WE DON’T LOOK OUT FOR OUR OWN.
        WE WILL SUCK UP TO THE CHINESE BUT BUTCHER OUR FELLOW BLACK MAN…IDIOTS

      • August 16, 2011

        You are not the Almighty to predict people’s time, God is the only one in control, and regardless what ever form of you know, you might want to use to end my time, I AM BLESS, and MY HOPE IS BUILT ON NOTHING MORE BUT JESUS BLOOD AND RIGHTEOUSNESS, I FEAR NO EVIL

      • naturalistic
        August 17, 2011

        at hello.
        if u claimin hatian as YOUR OWN then darling it is UR OWN not mine..dominican i be not mixed wit haitian sorry babe…claim wat is urs not from another nation!!

  22. August 16, 2011

    Come on, give de man ah break. Nato already way, WAY Over stayed their visit to the Caribbean, eh, wait they weren’t even invited to Haiti.

  23. August 16, 2011

    I WONDER HOW MANY CHINESE ARE STAYING HERE ILLEGALLY, OR DO WE JUST SELL THE SOUL OF THIS COUNTRY TO THEM THRROUGH PASSPORT SALES?
    JUST WONDERING

  24. weaintlearning
    August 16, 2011

    Persons who knowingly employ illegal immigrants should be charged as well. How can his employer be allowed to put up his bond and not be charged along with him? In the developed world these things don’t happen. How can we get better if we don’t improve the systems!!!

    • FED UP DOMINICAN
      August 17, 2011

      I was thinking the same. Surely the Employer is also breaking the law.

      Its good to know that this gentleman was gainfully employed, but does he have a work permit?

  25. thicknesss!
    August 16, 2011

    live d man alone,,dominicans too lazy dont want to do the wk they doin,, if it wasnt for them roseau market would not have nothing to eat..chupesssss<<

    • Big-Bannan
      August 16, 2011

      I reject the notion that Dominican’s are Lazy. Dominicans are some of the hardest working people out there. Before the Hatians roseau Market was always full of food and beautiful on Saturday. Hatians are a wicked evil and devious people.

      • August 16, 2011

        @ Big Bannan, i couldn’t agree with you more. Dominicans who don’t know about Haitians just think these people easy? why do you think their country is in the state it is right now? It’s because of all the evil that’s rampant there. These people are cursed and where ever they go, they carry their evil ways with them. That’s why i don’t buy anything from them, i won’t employ them to work for me not even for 10 cents. It’s time to start sending them back to their country.

    • possie rush
      August 16, 2011

      go and plant nuh, so the market will full, eh eh, no haitian come her to work in agriculture, zor toe sot, they are all INTRANSIT…….. sakway sot

  26. Ah!!
    August 16, 2011

    Leave the poor man alone.

  27. possie rush
    August 16, 2011

    Way to go Ms Baptiste, those haitians think dominica is theirs; no other country in the caribbean not accepting them but when they come here, where we offering dem the olive branch, they want to walk over us because they think we “foolish” and our country is “no country at all”

    • August 16, 2011

      @ POSSIE RUSH: COULD YOU REPEAT THE SAME COMMENT BUT INSTEAQD OF THE WORD “HAITIANS”, PUT “CHINESE”INSTEAD?
      THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE

      • possie rush
        August 16, 2011

        at least chinese building infracture for us, when they leave, if they leave, thier work will remain, what we getting from dam haitians, bad name from the neighbouring islands

      • August 16, 2011

        @ POSSIE RUSH:
        “WHEN THEY LEAVE!!?
        WHO TELL YOU THEY LEAVING
        YOU OBVIOUSLY DON’T KNOW THE CHINESE

  28. D.A Massive
    August 16, 2011

    It is very sad to know that there is no system in place to check on these persons who are overstaying in the country. I strongly believe that whether it is the Government or the police or both entities working jointly MUST ensure that some sort of monitoring or a special team of officers or otherwise be set up to avoid this sort of occurrence in the future.

    On the other hand Dosina should be ashamed and retract his story that he was afraid of being sent back. I am sure that he has friends who had their status regularised after the massive earthquake in haiti and must have informed him of that.

    • Anon Again
      August 16, 2011

      What you are suggesting here, D.A Massive, is a massive waste of funds. There is no effective way to police these things. Even the great USA can’t. If you doubt me, just check on the number of Dominicans living there illegally, many of them working. It will require too much of our scares resources for too few people who overstay.
      While we’re at it, I hope the gentleman is allowed to say. As a Dominican living in another country – status legal – I feel differently about people from other Caribbean countries living in Dominica. I think we should welcome them all if they are making a positive contribution, as Dosina clearly is. We have travelled, and continue to travel in droves to other countries to make a better life for ourselves and our families. When nationals of those countries make us feel unwelcome we don’t like it. We should treat others the way we don’t want to be treated.
      I say let Dosina stay. Clearly he is a good worker if his employer is prepared to back him in this case.

  29. UNBELIEVABLE!!
    August 16, 2011

    Such a sweet country. We even have a man who has admitted to employing an illegal alien, standing his bail. Sweettt!!

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