Newborn gives illegal Mexican mother a lucky break

A Mexican citizen who overstayed in Dominica may have gotten a lucky break to remain here as she is the mother of a new born national.

Mason Salas appeared before Magistrate Candia George at the Roseau Magistrate Court Thursday afternoon and pleaded guilty to the charge of overstaying without presenting herself to an immigration officer.

According to police prosecution, the defendant has been illegal in the state since February 15, 2010. Salas reportedly arrived at Dominica’s Melville Hall Airport on November 15, 2009 and was granted three months stay.

She was arrested and charged with the offense last week when she went to the immigration department seeking to process a passport on behalf of her new born.

It was at this time that police probed and inquired further into Salas’s status on the island. The defendant indicated that she knew she was committing an offence but did not pay a visit to immigration officials because she was pregnant.

Police prosecution requested from Magistrate George an order for removal of the defendant from the state.

“I am requesting that the order of removal not be effected, that she has given birth and is breast feeding a child who belong to the state,” defense attorney, Henry Shillingford submitted before Magistrate George during a plea in mitigation on the defendant behalf.

In handing down the sentence, Magistrate George cautioned the defendant. “When you come to somebody country you need to respect their laws, I am going to allow you to stay, it will not be fair for me to separate you from the baby,’ Magistrate George told the defendant, before ordering that a permit be granted to the defendant to stay in the country.

Salas was fined $1,000 to be paid by August 31 or spend three months in prison.

There was at no time a discussion in the court as to why the defendant was not pursued by authorities during the last 15 months she has been illegal on island.

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219 Comments

  1. Alas
    July 29, 2011

    I doe Understand why in God’s name someone wants to come and live in Dominica ANYWAY…Dominicans Fly People coming… Chinese Do right Come Dominicans To Damn Stupid Yes I said it STUPID!

  2. Alas
    July 29, 2011

    i Love Dominica…. But I Really Hate Dominicans! And here goes The Thumbs Down… Is Not My Fault All U Too DAMN RETARDED! All U Does have D education but all u rather Be Stupid!

  3. The Bible's view
    July 28, 2011

    Even the ten commandments talks about being kind to the stranger (and in some versions it clearly states the alien) in your gates. The Bible mentions numerous times that we should treat our aliens fairly, not underpaying them or maltreating them but do justly as if it were your own countryman.
    The truth is all the “sucessful” 1st world countries thrived during a time when there was massive migration and many of these individuals were not legal but helped to make the country better. My take? We have many Dominicans sitting on their lorrels and refusing work that some migrants will come in and do to make our country grow. They don’t just look for jobs, many of them create jobs so that other locals can find employment. As lenient as the law may have been back in the day do you really think that some of our well known seriean businessmen came in and bought a passport? Let’s learn from some of these people. They are willing to take a chance toward something better- something that many Dominicans are too afraid to do.

  4. magwasah
    July 27, 2011

    IT’S AMAZING HOW ONE PERSON HAS DOMINATED THIS TOPIC, RESPONDING TO EVERYONE’S COMMENT!!!! THEY KNOW EVERYTHING, ALL THE SPECIFICS OF THIS CASE.hmmmm MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE HELPED THE DEFENSE AND THEY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE RESULT THEY WANTED. tsk tsk. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION but IT SEEMS THEY ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR “TRUTH JUSTICE”

    • magwasah
      July 27, 2011

      AND THEY DON’T EVEN LIVE IN DOMINICA. haha
      stuff never seems to amaze me.

      • Truth,Love,Peace
        July 28, 2011

        @ Magwasah

        Jealous? :mrgreen: They are Dominicans and more patriotic as some Dominicans who reside there as you I suppose. They are exposed to and experience much more than those who reside in Dominica. They have a lot of expertise in this respect and are sharing it accordingly. They can do a lot of good for Dominica from afar and even more than some who reside in Dominica and take it for granted. Ever thought of this?

      • magwasah
        July 29, 2011

        did you see what that individual was writing? calling people’s opinion, stupid and only their’s is correct. that’s not the way to disagree with someone and also speaking in a condescending manner. that’s my issue. i am not jealous of anyone because in the end we all meet the same fate. All those so called patriotic Dominicans should come back to the home they so dearly love and care about. Contribute instead of just sitting oversees criticizing every thing that goes on in Dominica.

    • Truth,Love,Peace
      July 28, 2011

      @ Magwasah

      Good reading exercise for you. :lol: It is good that you read all the comments so that you can form your opinion, hopefully a sensible one.
      When people write, they should write what which makes sense and stick to the topic. They should keep in mind that others from all walks of life and educational backgrounds read their comments. If they expect their comments to be taken into, hopefully, consideration and applied, they should write sensibly.
      Some people have more common sense than others. They respond based on the comments of others. They think beyond and offer their candid, enlightening comments. Need I say any more? You should appreciate it.

      • magwasah
        July 29, 2011

        I am not going to arrive at a conclusion based on what i read on here? This is just entertainment. Again I only have a problem with the tone of some of these comments. Some individuals may not have formal education, but may have a valid point to get across and I think we can refute them without having to make them feel like they are lesser than others. JUST MY THOUGHTs.
        MY GRAND MA used to say all the time. EDUCATION is not wisdom.

  5. Mexican and husband
    July 26, 2011

    Question to Truth/justice…
    Did God put this woman on her journey to Dominica?
    Did God put her before the court?
    Did God help the magistrate come to her decision to allow her to stay in Dominica?
    Did God fill you with such racist hatred?
    Does God want you to hold out your hand in forgiveness to those who have not been so fortunate as yourself?

    Maybe you should do as the Norwegian man did in the name of protecting his country, and kill my wife, our baby and myself.
    Some of the extreme comments we have read are making us wonder.

    You should be proud of your country and your judicial system for being able to treat this case with an element of compassion.
    Yes the court could easily of deported us.
    Yes the law could have thrown us in jail and left us to rot, as it has done with the two young African men.
    Instead the court looked at us as a family who pose no threat to Dominica. On the contrary we are positive, productive people. Those Dominicans who have got to know us, have told us on many occasions that we have been an inspiration to them, and that our positivity, creativity, and love has had a profound effect on the community in which we live.

    To the people in this forum who have read the article above, and have come to the conclusion that myself, my wife and child are definitely involved with the drug cartels. You are all guilty of taking the information given to you by the media, and allowing your own prejudices to take hold of your senses. This stereotyping is the result of media control. If I say the word `Arab ‘, do you immediately think of a Murderous terrorist brandishing an AK47?

    Mexico is a beautiful country; Mexicans are a race of people with an amazing history. The Mayan civilization pre-dates Christianity by 2000 years, and some say were far more `civilized´ than the society in which we live today. So for those of you who are concerned about the impact that having a Mexican living in your society will have, please, please don’t fall into the trap of presuming us to be drug cartel, murderers and kidnappers.

    My wife and I have been reading all the comments posted in this forum, and can see that there are many Dominicans who are afraid of their beautiful country falling into the wrong hands. We hope that what we have said here will help you to see that we are not a threat to Dominica.
    My wife and I fell in love a long time ago while I was working in Mexico. We made the decision to come back to Dominica to live. My wife would like for you all to know that she is here because firstly Dominica is the home of her partner and secondly that Dominica is a beautiful unspoiled paradise.
    As a family, our motto is the same as the motto of Dominica: `After God, it is the land´.
    Meaning we as a family love God and love and respect nature. We hope that we can live a happy and peaceful life here without being persecuted or discriminated against.
    The judicial system has dealt with the fact that we broke the law, and has fined us heavily. I spent three days in jail, sleeping on a concrete floor, in a dark, cockroach-infested cell. I was fed with dry bread in the morning and crix crackers at night.
    I (like the two Africans I was locked up with) did not know my fate nor did I know the fate of my loved ones. So please be assured that we have been punished, and that the system has dealt with us as criminals. Now all that we want to do is put this behind us and continue with our life here in Dominica.
    Thanks for taking the time to read this.

    • Truth,Love,Peace
      July 28, 2011

      @ Mexican and husband

      Ask God those questions that you posed. Pray to him with a humble and contrite heart and hopefully He will enlighten you.
      I hope you are not one of those who have come to Dominica to open your own church. Dominica has enough of those types of churches and needs no more. Dominica is a predominantly Christian country which is under the banner of God the Father, God The Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ and God the Holy Spirit. We do not need non-nationals to tarnish this. Dominica does not also need any more atheists and agnostics who disown God and His existence.
      Dominica consists of enough people who are loving and kind who could influence them. They do not need foreigners to influence them. For one they do not know the backgrounds of those non-nationals. If that is the only reason you are in Dominica then it is not valid grounds for immigration to grant you a landed status.
      Your culture may have been older than 2000 as you say. This is not the issue. It is of no interest to me or other Dominicans. I have no wish to investigate this or to bother about it.
      One thing, your culture is not older than God’s existence and greater than Him who created the world and human beings.
      “For God so loved the world that He sent His Only Son that whoever believes in Him might not perish but have eternal life if we obey His (Our) Heavenly Father’s Will.”
      His Name is Jesus Christ. Some people have accepted him and others have rejected him. He has also set His Ten Commandments and one of it is Thou shalt not commit adultery;fornicate.
      Making excuses why the woman was given landed status? Exonerating yourself? Who accepts that? Not me and some others!
      Dominicans are proud of their country and feel good about their country. They do not need non-nationals to tell them that and make them feel good about it. They already know it.
      We care for our country, what happens to it and what goes on in it, in addition to who enters it as non-nationals. We do not want all types of people infiltrating our country, over-staying their visit and living illegally.
      Charity begins at home. There are many people who are unemployed and so the government should not allow the unemployed to migrate to Dominica. The Dominica needs to take care of its own people first.
      If you are a Mexican why not return to your country? What did you run away from? You come to live in a small country which is much smaller than your country. Surely, there should be a reason why you chose to do so? You should be investigated by Immigration and find out your reason for wanting to remain in Dominica. It is not enough to say that it is a paradise. If I were the Immigration Minister and other officials, this is what I would have done. I would not have granted a woman legal status because she had an illegitimate child and without investigating her. What husband and what wife? I emphasize that Immigration should not hesitate to do conduct an investigation.
      It is not racist to do so but it is fair and just in the interest of Dominica and its patriotic and sincere nationals.
      In the interest of Dominica, I do not think you have been punished enough. You did not obey the law of the land and you should have been deported immediately. Spending time in jail as a non-national does not qualify you for landed status.
      Did the Law investigate you? Why did you overstay your visit? It was illegal to do so. Since you were imprisoned, you should have been deported.
      Dominica has a lax system to allow you to stay since you had overstayed your visit. I do hope that both of you have valid names and you did not change your names.
      I reiterate and emphasize that you should be investigated. May this be done.
      I wrote this writing. No one wrote it for me.

  6. dominican abroad
    July 26, 2011

    i am born dominican, with american cit-ship and i went the wrigth way by doing this so dont critizize me for what i have aqueired, the mexican lady should be sent back cus she violated the law of the land ,her son has the birth rigth but not her so he can return when ever he want but she shuold be returned to mexico ,and the immigratio9n dept. need to step up there act , and do thier job.

    • magwasah
      July 27, 2011

      how did you get to do it legally? some how one of your relatives had to do it illegally to eventually get you to do it legally. Or unless you got married to a born in America US citizen!!!!!

  7. DIVA
    July 25, 2011

    all you are really dominicans! shame on all you :oops: give her a chance she desieve it !

  8. July 25, 2011

    Please people learn to spell and correct your grammar before posting comments. At least use a dictionary. This is down right depressing.

  9. Butcher
    July 25, 2011

    @ Truth, Justice- I am now convince that you are not only a troll but that you suffer from Asperger syndrome. I can’t help but to notice that you are craving attention; you over run a topic ; you are very often off base. You need help

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 26, 2011

      @ Butcher

      You are a butcher as stated by your name, one who butchers everyone and everything that also people state.:twisted: :mrgreen: This is your low-down and low-class mentality which you depict. You lack basic common sense.
      Some of you like to throw dirty words at those who speak the truth because you do not like what they state and you do not accord them their rights to comment as you expect others to respect yours.
      There are all types of people in the world and with all types of mentality and you are one of them. You may me a mad/crazy person for that matter.
      You have depicted that you are not a fair and just person. You do not utilize your common sense and know when people are stating common sense.
      The Law of the land must be respected and upheld at all times with no exception and preferential treatment to no one.
      I REITERATE THAT, THE WOMAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN DEPORTED A LONG TIME AGO and also prior to having a baby in Dominica. She knew what she was up to. She did not deserve the residence status which was given her. I hope it is not too late for Dominica immigration to deport her. I do hope she is investigated.
      When her child is of age, he/she could apply for a Dominican passport and residence, if he/she is interested.
      Immigration department had no business granted her a landed stay and without first investigating her status right from her Mexican country.
      Note that the Venezuelan couple was deported. Hats off to Immigration and its process.
      I do believe that all those who commented about this article, who believe that this woman should have been deported have opened the eyes of Immigration and aided them to deport those Venezuelans. Hats off to them too.
      What do you contribute to the good of your country? What do you do for it and for others? Are you a patriotic Dominican? It appears to me that you are not. Open your eyes, ears, brains and heart.
      May God assist you accordingly. May He bless and grace you to also comprehend that there are Dominicans, whether they reside in Dominica or elsewhere who love their country and who are interested in the welfare of Dominica and its resident nationals. I reiterate that you do not appear to be. It may be that you know the Mexican woman and have an interest in her. Otherwise you would not make such an insulting comment to another Dominican national.
      I stand up for what is correct, is right, fair and just to do, amidst critics, objections, oppressors, and persecutions. I am not here to please you and your negative likes but to primarily please God and to remain loyal to my wonderful Dominican country. No negative person and those who appear to work for the devil and are influenced by same can prevent me. I am answerable to God and not to you and your likes.
      You should learn from this and do likewise. You will be a far godly, happier, loving, generous and happier person for it.
      All praise, homage and thanks be to God! If God is for us who can be against us?

  10. July 25, 2011

    It is quite horrifing to watch the process of hate-mongering happening in these posts. Truth/Justice – do you realise how your vivid imagination and suspicious negative mind is whipping up hate and racism here? You know nothing about this case and should stop guessing; the Magistrate dealt very humanely with this case after much deliberation. She deserves praise not criticism. Call yourselves good Catholics? What happened to love of your fellow-human beings? SHAME ON YOU.

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 26, 2011

      @ Concerned

      Likewise yourself. You make me laugh in disgust about you :twisted: Some of you do not put on your thinking cap. It appears you have known. You are the one who is hate-mongering and spewing racism and hatred towards another fellow Dominican who stand up for Dominica and its Laws.
      I am not a radical but an advocate of all what is good, to live a godly, good life and to help make the world, no exception Dominica, a better place to live in. I live by this. Are you jealous? :twisted:
      I commented after the fact of what was written in this article. You and some others deviate from it, making silly and useless comments which do not pertain to this article. You do not comprehend what I stated because you lack intelligence and basic common sense.
      You should note that I did not call the woman any derogatory names. I only stated the truth. Attack those who have not done so.
      This is a woman who primarily overstayed her visit, screwed around with no doubt, all types of men, fornicated, had a baby, who knows with how many men and who may not even know who the father of the baby is and she was immediately granted a landed stay because of having this baby and without first investigating her.
      Who is this woman? What type of background she has? Can you not comprehend this?
      This is an insult to Dominica, a predominantly Christian country and to Dominicans of all.
      Immigration who should uphold the Law did not adhere to the Law of the land and accorded her preferential treatment. For what reason? Ask yourself that question.
      Do you know the woman? Did you associate with her and have relations with her? Are you the father of her child?
      If you are a fair and just person you would not make such a comment. How silly you are to say that I know nothing about this case when the article clearly stated as reported about what the Officer stated and why she was granted a stay.
      People as you need to return to school to learn basic common sense, knowledge and respect for others, namely overall discipline. You should also learn about the Dominican Immigration Laws. This is my concern and what I commented about.
      May God grant you fairness, justice, love, peace for others, for your Dominican country and nationals and to be patriotic to your Dominican country and to be patriotic to it. God expects this from you.

      • magwasah
        July 27, 2011

        ye without sin throwing the stone!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. DOMINICANS R CLOWNS
    July 25, 2011

    DOMINICAN OVERSTAY IN PEOPLE COUNTRY EVERYWHERE THEY GO, BUT THEY TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE OVERSTAYING IN THERE COUNTRY…..SHUT UP….ALL U SOUND LIKE CLOWNS…..ALL U ALL BABYSITTERS IN NEW YORK< CLEANERS IN ST MARTEEN AND VENDING BY THE MARKET, DID U ALL NOT OVERSTAY IN SOMEONE COUNTRY…..WHAT A CLOWN NATION

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 26, 2011

      Hi Clown,

      Well named, clown. You are indeed a clown. :twisted: You have overlooked what was stated in this article and deviated from the issue.
      It is a serious matter and one to be taken seriously that someone who overstayed her visit which is a violation of the Law of the land, was given a landed stay because she had a baby without due Immigration process is an infraction of the Laws of the land and could eventually jeopardize the safety of Dominicans.
      Your comments and others about Dominicans who overstayed their visit abroad are silly and have absolutely no bearing with this article and the Dominican Law.
      Why do people as you who make such comments not stick to the issue?
      In the end Dominicans will hold the Prime Minister, himself, accountable and be lambasted for the actions of his Immigration officials. Have you considered this?

    • valance
      January 7, 2012

      we are not Dominican republic we are dominica so look at the difference.

  12. Straight Wood
    July 25, 2011

    ya good vybz

  13. amused
    July 25, 2011

    Dominicans are known to be very migrant population resulting in a low population count. We need more people on the island so that businesses of all sorts will have a bigger market & move the economy forward. Welcome the new born Dominican & Mexican Mama. I love it. 8)

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 26, 2011

      @ amused

      What are you amused about? Your comments do not make sense and is not amusing.
      I once heard on a radio program that a dolphin said to another dolphin: “Darling I need you like a need a hole in the head.” Dolphins have a hole in the head for breathing.
      I do not want to call you stupid but this is what exactly you are.
      Dominica and Dominicans need more immigration as they need a hole in their head.
      Consider the unemployment rate in Dominica. Dominicans must try to do something for themselves. It already has an influx of Chinese and Haitians. Does it need any additional immigrants?
      The last thing Dominica needs are immigrants who may be of questionable character and for Immigration to give landed status to anyone, baby or not who did not follow the due immigration process.
      Put on your thinking cap! Need I say more?

    • Alas
      July 29, 2011

      Is Not Our Fault!

  14. Concerned
    July 25, 2011

    WE WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS FORM OF IRRESPONSIBILITY BY ANY JUDGE! HE SHOULD RESIGN IMMEDIATELY!!! AND THE MEXICAN WOMAN’S STATUS REVOKED. UNLESS THIS JUDGE GIVES THE PEOPLE SOME TRANSPARENCY AS TO WHAT IS INVOLVED IN THIS CASE.
    DO THE RIGHT THING JUDGE! BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY LITTLE FUTURE JUDGES WATCHING INTENTLY HOW YOU HANDLE THIS CASE.
    -DOMINICA BELONGS TO ITS PEOPLE AND AS SUCH WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS TAKING PLACE IN OUR COUNTRY. YOU OWE IT US JUDGE.

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 26, 2011

      @ Concerned

      Note your comments and what you wrote later about my comment. You are another one who is contradictory.
      Please review all your comments in this article and you will note your grave error.

  15. kwaib
    July 25, 2011

    say what all you want but I’ll take a Mexican over a Haitian any day!!!

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 26, 2011

      @ kwaib

      Who cares?

    • July 30, 2011

      Take Mexican over Haitian they will cut your dick, when they start to bring their cartel family and friends you all will see

  16. keken
    July 24, 2011

    babies born in america when the immigration hold their parents they dont keep them in america they deport them

  17. Fair is Fair
    July 24, 2011

    The judge could let the woman stay in Dominica for a set period of time ( like 3 months ) to get her things in order to leave the island…
    baby or no baby, unless the father of the child is willing to sponsor her to Dominica at which time she would have to go through the same process as everyone else who is not a national and wanting to immigrate to Dominica. If she cannot abide by that then she should be deported back to Mexico with her child or leave the child in Dominica with its father if he is a national. If the woman is claiming refugee status, that is another issue in itself but she should have to abide by the 3 month stay that she was given when she first came to the island. She should be serving a prison term like everyone else who breaks the immigration laws. Why does having a baby exempt her from spending time in jail. There are many women who go to jail and their children are taken into care by the state/family while they are incarcerated. Where is this Dominican man who couldn’t use a condom to protect his best interest? Rules and laws must be the same for everyone otherwise there will be disorder and mayhem. This situation may encourage others to do the same and worse. Every other country is quick to deport Dominicans back home if they break laws in that country.
    Dominica will never prosper if it “speaks on both sides of its mouth.”

    • manana
      July 25, 2011

      who know’s if the child father is not a mexican too, & pretend the father is a Dominican just to stay in D/ca,asked her to take the father along with her to the immigration.

      • valance
        January 7, 2012

        you right these mexicans have too much tricks

  18. Born in D.A,
    July 24, 2011

    Dominican men should breed their own kind and stop being so quick to have children with women from other countries who are “just visiting”. I think the judge has set a precedence for other “visitors” to come and stay on the island. No disrespect to any other race and creed but the last thing we want to overtake Dominica, is the mexican…

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 24, 2011

      As I have stated Dominicans deserve a response and explanation from the Immigration Minister. I have observed that no one has called for that and his resignation.
      The Immigration Law is lax to give landed stay to an illegal because she has a baby.
      If she was given a three-months stay, what was the reason she was given this three-months stay.
      She should have been documented for this three-months’ stay and where she would be staying. Was she not searched and asked how she planned to support herself during this stay?
      Immigration should have followed-up if visitors exceeded their stay.
      Who is she? What type of background she has? What is her motive for coming to Dominica and remaining in Dominica? Why did she not return to Mexico? Why is she still in Dominica? Did she get pregnant while in Dominica? Nevertheless, she is an illegal and should have been deported.

      • freedom
        July 25, 2011

        Again i refer you to the comment i made some time ago…READ IT!

  19. magwasah
    July 24, 2011

    SO SAD TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ON THE FORUM ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE OF OTHER RACES IN SUCH A DEGRADABLE MANNER. SHAME SHAME SHAME. WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS. GOD’S CREATION.MOST OF US OVERSEES RIGHT NOW GOT PAPERS FROM FAMILY MEMBERS WHO EITHER OVERSTAYED AND GOT MARRIED TO GET PAPERS, SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.HOW DID AMERICA BECOME WHAT IT IS TODAY? THE IMMIGRANTS ARE WHAT MADE IT THIS WAY AND THEY STILL STIMULATE THE ECONOMY MORE THAN EVER. WHY DO YOU THINK THERE ARE NO MASSIVE DEPORTATIONS? THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN GOVERNMENT AND THOSE IN THE KNOW, KNOW FULL WELL THE CONSEQUENCES AND EFFECT IT WILL HAVE ON THE ECONOMY. IT IS SO SAD TO SEE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO INSIDE KNOWLEDGE JUST MOUTH OFF.IN THE END AGAIN I SAY WE ARE ALL HUMAN. SO MUCH YET WE WANT TO PERSECUTE THIS MEXICAN LADY.

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 24, 2011

      @ Magwasah

      Are you without common sense? Do you not comprehend the situation? Are you a law-breaker?
      Dominica is a small country. Why would anyone from a big country as Mexico come to Dominica and decide to stay in Dominica? Dominicans deserve an explanation and have every right to stand up/out and speak up and demand an answer from the Immigration Minister.
      The Law of the land and immigration process must be obeyed.
      The issue is she exceeded her stay without permission, had a baby, applied for a passport for the baby and was granted a stay without immigration legal process.
      If Dominicans abroad overstayed their visit and got married, they still have to go through the immigration process. The U.S., Canada or other countries will not immediately grant them a stay because they have babies.

      • magwasah
        July 25, 2011

        i never mentioned anything about breaking the law. I was just appalled at the way people on this forum was talking about a fellow human being like she was some dog or something. I understand the legal processes that have to occur and that was not my issue.

    • diva
      July 24, 2011

      :lol: blesse people like you correct humans

      • Truth,Justice,Peace
        July 26, 2011

        @ diva

        No one stated that she was not a human being. At no time did they implicate this.
        They are speaking about the Law of the land which must be adhered to and upheld without no exception.
        Some of you people as Magwash appear to misconstrue what others state. I reiterate utilize your basic common sense. Make sensible comments which could be taken into consideration or do not commment. Some of your comments are worthless. Some of your comments are worthless and serve no useful purpose.

    • Portsmouth I from
      July 25, 2011

      True say that, and then half of them that talking like that have relatives that overstay in St. Martin, Antigua or Guadeloupe, Magwasa

  20. ?
    July 24, 2011

    I wish a Dominican woman would go and try that in Mexico, let’s see how fast the woman and child would be deported; that is after she spends some time in prison for breaking Mexican immigration laws.

    • Jalousie
      July 24, 2011

      Does Dominica operate according to law?I find this so ridiculous.so everyone who wants to stay in the country can just get pregnant? Why is Dominca always the Laughing Stock. The woman should be given some time to stay and then sent back to her country.
      Do we know who she really is?
      Alas, poor Dominica.Everybody just getting away with everything. From top to bottom.

      • manana tomorrow
        July 27, 2011

        Because the layers in dominica do not care about our country & our people

    • hola dominicans open
      July 25, 2011

      i wouldnt put her in prison,i would just asked her to go back on her return ticket if ever she has one or if not send her back with her child,because sooner or later her entire family will soon be in D/ca.

  21. July 23, 2011

    It is ashamed Dominicans are leaving the country,only sixty thousand something is the popution,You have foreigners coming Dominica too have baby’s.The government should offer the young lady assistance.You guys out there making negative comments should be ashamed special those who ran away from Dominica.

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 24, 2011

      @ Dahman

      Utilize your common sense and put on your thinking cap if you have one.
      Does she need government assistance? Did she ask for government assistance? Did the government offer and give her assistance?
      Immigration should ascertain how she plans to support herself and her child while in Dominica.
      Who paid for her hospital stay, having a baby in the hospital and for extended medical care while in the hospital?
      She has overstayed her visit by almost two years. Do not expect Dominicans to be pleased about this.
      Who supported her during that time? It appears that she is well-off or that some individual, a man, is supporting her.
      It costs some thousands of dollars to travel from Mexico to Dominica. Was she in another island or islands or other countries and was deported?
      From what I read, she was given a three-months’ stay. If this is true Immigration should have searched her as any one who arrives at the airport and question her about her financial means if she wished to stay longer than a few weeks. Was this done?
      For all we know she could be a criminal, a murderer or a thief. Have you ever considerd that?
      Immigration must thoroughly investigate this woman. Her stay should be revoked.

      • Shoe in the other fo
        July 25, 2011

        I don’t really understand when everyone says that immigration should have searched her and asked her about her financial means.. When all of you go to the United States and stay for six months, do they question you on your financial means or search you because you are staying six months?

  22. July 23, 2011

    I know for sure that this woman did not enter DA with her right identity, check American Most Wanted see what i am talking about, them Mexicans and Spanish have several aliases

    My two cents is that she should be deported back to Mexico, wondering how did she pay for her doctor’s visit, also if the Dominica Authority have a Data Base for foreign immigrant entering the island, just my two cents, this woman did not abide by the laws of the nation, she got pregnant to remain in the country for what reason just my two cents, a few years ago on all the games shows in the USA, people were winning trips to Mexico, this is no longer so, wheel of fortune is right now advertising the Eastern Caribbean, St Lucia, St Vincent, Grenada, not Dominica, wondering why, no longer Mexico, too many USA citizens, Canadian, British and other countries nationals were and even right now are being murdered, rape, kidnapped and vanishing in Mexico, not forgetting the recent Hotel fire which was blamed on the employees, People driving to Mexico will driving police cruiser stopping them next thing they are being kidnapped, many of them vanishing even on the waters, from their hotel rooms just my two cents, i am a Dominica living in a foreign country even them Mexicans treating us like dirt, she and her baby need to go back to Mexico, wondering why she did not go to the USA or Canada just my two cents, without fire there’s no smoke, just my two cents,

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 24, 2011

      @ James

      You are so correct. I wholeheartedly endorse what you stated.
      We who reside abroad should be working in Dominica and the Immigration Department.
      It appears that the person who granted her a stay, knowing that she is illegal in the country did not bother to investigate her. She may very well be living under an assumed name which is not her own.
      I emphatically state that she should be deported. In fact, during this time that she is residing in Dominica, Immigration should investigate her. Her passport and any other document she has should be seized and a proper investigation should be conducted. I do hope that the Dominica government does just that without much ado.

    • bush
      July 25, 2011

      u are so right,i am a pure Dominican born in D/ca citizen of another country ,if going to D/ca i cant stay the amount i want all kind of stupid questions where am i going to stay,how long am i going to stay,& this lady can stay as much as she want.

      • Truth,Justice,Peace
        July 26, 2011

        @ bush

        Thank you for your comments. I am a Dominican who resides in another country. You know what? I do not view her as “a lady.” It is said, not all women are ladies and not all men are gentlemen. I have heard this since childhood when I resided in Dominica.
        It depends on their lifestyle and mannerisms.
        Too often I hear in the Media and also read in the newspapers that defense lawyers and others refer to criminals/murderers as gentlemen. Some gentlemen they are. Some people utilize those words improperly. Those who break the Law of all are no gentlemen or ladies. Take note of their lifestyle and mannerisms. This should determine if they are gentlemen or ladies.

  23. Too Smart
    July 23, 2011

    I heard (not confirmed) that they had to close the elementary school in Boetica because there were only 10 kids enrolled in the school. If that is the case Dominicans overseas will have to start a reverse migration process or DOMINICANS who still live on the island will have to begin fulling their quiver with kids, or we will have to get outsiders to procreate to keep the island from going extinct. Dominica does not have a poverty problem, rather, there is a LAZINESS….yes I said a laziness problem because young folks don’t want to work anymore unless you put them in an office. Plant some fig, yam, and plantain and have more babies. LEAVE THE WOMAN ALONE. We need 20 more mexicans to keep the schools from closing and teachers employed.

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 24, 2011

      @ Too Smart

      You are not too smart. :twisted: The last thing that Dominica needs are Mexicans. Do you not follow the news? I suppose you would not care if Mexican drug cartels, murderers and thieves come to live in Dominica?
      Leave the woman alone? Dominica immigration knows nothing about the woman and she was granted a stay. This is the height of stupidity. I reiterate that she should be investigated.

    • manana tomorrow
      July 25, 2011

      all this problems happening in mexico after all these deba they has in D/ca u want mexican to enter again? u dont love your country.

  24. a
    July 23, 2011

    country back to Mexico, sooner or latter the island will be infested with Mexicans and other nationalities facing deportation in Canada and the USA, they are the ones responsible for all the graffiti, destroying people’s properties marking their turf, listening to news coming from Mexico It would not surprise me, that she was involved in criminal activities and flee, or betrayed the cartels, i saw too many of them women involved with the war lords, drugs cartels, kidnapping and killing of tourist and visitors in Mexico, Columbia, right now in the USA and Canada people are being warned of traveling to Mexico, this present administration is selling Dominica, sad so sad

    Ottawa intends to revoke the citizenship of 1,800 people it believes obtained their status through fraudulent means, Immigration Minister Jason Kenney says.

    The decision to revoke citizenship is rare, and a large-scale crackdown such as this one appears to be unprecedented.

    The people were identified through investigations conducted across the country by police and the Citizenship and Immigration Department. People identified by the investigations will receive letters informing them of the government’s decision.

    The move sends a “very clear message” to anyone who thinks of abusing Canada’s citizenship system, Kenney said Wednesday.

    “We are in the process of notifying them that we will revoke their citizenship because Canadian citizenship is not for sale,” Kenney told reporters in Toronto.

    Canada is also creating a new visa for frequent visitors, valid for 10 years with limitless entrances to the country, Kenney announced.

    The visas will let people come to Canada for up to six months at a time, and as many times as they want, over the 10-year period. The new permit is expected to appeal to travellers who come to Canada frequently on business or to visit family.

    They are taking advantage of Dominica’s Immigration Law, Haitian, Mexicans and the rest, developed countries are cracking down on them, i am feeling sorry for my family in DA and my island, wondering why she did not go to Spain, why did she choose DA, this is very fishy

    With them Spanish people majority of them have the same ID, (example, Jose, Juan, Ricardo ) this is a common name for Spanish male In our Data Base i can say their are hundreds of Spanish males with the same last and first name this is the reason why it is very difficult to catch them criminals, Women Anna Marie, Maria and so on hundreds same first and last name, i no for fact that the DA official will not be able to do a criminal check on this woman, sad so sad, all criminals are flocking to the land of milk and honey, sheep in wool clothing

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 24, 2011

      @ a

      She should be asked to provide her Mexican address, the name of her employer and address in Mexico; also her parents name and address including siblings.
      She should have a number to identify her as we do in Canada, a social insurance number. The U.S. has its own number.
      It should not be difficult to trace her with this number if she gave a correct one.
      Visitors who are not Dominican-born should be appropriately documented. Immigration should ensure that their place of birth and origin, address, name of employer, if any and reference of someone as a relative should be given prior to allowing them to visit Dominica and to spend time as three months in Dominica.
      She should also have provided the place where she was staying in Dominica. There should have been an immigration follow-up when she exceeded her stay.

      • Awe today
        July 27, 2011

        u are so right

  25. July 23, 2011

    This woman should be deported back to Mexico with her baby, who knows most likely she was deported from the USA, Canada or some other country back to Mexico, sooner or latter the island will be infested with Mexicans and other nationalities facing deportation in Canada and the USA, they are the ones responsible for all the graffiti, destroying people’s properties marking their turf, listening to news coming from Mexico It would not surprise me, that she was involved in criminal activities and flee, or betrayed the cartels, i saw too many of them women involved with the war lords, drugs cartels, kidnapping and killing of tourist and visitors in Mexico, Columbia, right now in the USA and Canada people are being warned of traveling to Mexico, this present administration is selling Dominica, sad so sad

    Ottawa intends to revoke the citizenship of 1,800 people it believes obtained their status through fraudulent means, Immigration Minister Jason Kenney says.

    The decision to revoke citizenship is rare, and a large-scale crackdown such as this one appears to be unprecedented.

    The people were identified through investigations conducted across the country by police and the Citizenship and Immigration Department. People identified by the investigations will receive letters informing them of the government’s decision.

    The move sends a “very clear message” to anyone who thinks of abusing Canada’s citizenship system, Kenney said Wednesday.

    “We are in the process of notifying them that we will revoke their citizenship because Canadian citizenship is not for sale,” Kenney told reporters in Toronto.

    Canada is also creating a new visa for frequent visitors, valid for 10 years with limitless entrances to the country, Kenney announced.

    The visas will let people come to Canada for up to six months at a time, and as many times as they want, over the 10-year period. The new permit is expected to appeal to travellers who come to Canada frequently on business or to visit family.

    They are taking advantage of Dominica’s Immigration Law, Haitian, Mexicans and the rest, developed countries are cracking down on them, i am feeling sorry for my family in DA and my island, wondering why she did not go to Spain, why did she choose DA, this is very fishy

    With them Spanish people majority of them have the same ID, (example, Jose, Juan, Ricardo ) this is a common name for Spanish male In our Data Base i can say their are hundreds of Spanish males with the same last and first name this is the reason why it is very difficult to catch them criminals, Women Anna Marie, Maria and so on hundreds same first and last name, i no for fact that the DA official will not be able to do a criminal check on this woman, sad so sad, all criminals are flocking to the land of milk and honey, sheep in wool clothing

  26. Anonymous
    July 23, 2011

    AS WE SPEAK IN TODAY THE LAW IS THE LAW , A CHILD BORN IN TORTOLA BVI TO DOMINICAN PARENTS WITH PAPERS CANNOT GET A BVI PASSPORT THAT CHILD MUST GET A DOMINCAN PP
    YOUNG WOMAN FROM DOMINCA WAS JUST RELEASED FROM DEENTION SHE WAS PENDING DEPORTATION BACK TO DOMINCA , A OFFICIAL WITH THE IMMIGRATION DEPARTMEN (A WOMAN) COULD GET FALSE DOCUMENTS TO SEND HER STATING THAT SHE RAN AWAY FROM AN ABUSIVE BOYFRIEND SHE WAS GRANTED ASYLUM,A WOMAN WHO IS WANTED IN DOMINICA OWING ALL MERCHANTS AND MUCH MORE SO THE LAWS IS TOO SLACK AND UNLESS WE FIX IT ALL DOG AND PUSSY WILL COME IN AND OUT . THAT MEXICAN WOMAN COULD HAVE BEEN SENT TO T
    TEST THE WATERS TO SEE HOW EASY IT IS TO SET ROOTS IN DOMINICA FOR ALL WE KNOW. BABAY OR BABY NOT GIVE THE CILD HER DOMINCAN PP FOR TRAVEL AND SEND THE MOTHER BACK TO HER COUNTRY.

  27. wisdom
    July 23, 2011

    the judge overall view of the law was not on the mother side but on the well being of the new citizen of the country. Wow

  28. Anonymous
    July 23, 2011

    I live in california and i am a treu dominican thos babies are called achore babies what it does it alowws the mother to stay, in the host country and she will have another baby , and an another pretty soon dominica will be full of mexicans chines and every thing els demanding zitenship . domincan wake up now and protest at the government offices, and demanD that this people be sent back When this mexican kid turn 18 years old he can come home to dominica but for now the mother need to return back to mexicao before she have some more babies.dominca is a small island we can onle absurb so many forieners.

    • Anonymous
      July 24, 2011

      Of all persons you should be the last one talking. You live in someone’s elses country and if you have a baby right now in california he or she gets an american passport so whats your point. JUST AS I THOUGHT! NONE Clean your backyard before braying

      • Truth,Justice,Peace
        July 24, 2011

        @ Anonymous

        You appear to be a bitter person and one who is two-faced who contradict yourself. Read your comments on this issue. :twisted: :mrgreen:

      • Portsmouth I from
        July 25, 2011

        Anonymous Immigration looking for u…

    • Dee
      July 25, 2011

      so true the have babies more than any body and take cover. you have places in california that look just like mexico. spanish speaking only, mexican stores, mexican everything. whats sad is if we were to go to mexico we would not get this special treatment. stop allowing them to come before its too late and they take over DA

    • July 25, 2011

      If you live in California please improve your lot by taking an ENGLISH class. It is utterly ridiculous for a human being from an english speaking Island to spell the way you do and not try to improve your standard.

  29. DominicaFirst
    July 23, 2011

    Ms. Salas, we welcome your citizenship, forgive the haters for they know no better. I hope you start up a fine Mexican cuisine. I sure would love some tacos, enchiladas, and quesadillas
    Why are some of you complaining? Underpopulated country(Dominica) surely need more citizens.
    Reason why brazil and America is doing so well is because the help other countries in times trouble. Mexico has helped Dominica, with scholarships for students. Some of you chat about the French, Amercan laws. She ain’t non of those, she is Mexican where innocent citizens are gunned down every day. Is that where you would wanna send her back to?

    • I know eh!
      July 23, 2011

      Hey I know what you mean, I welcome some REAL tacos myself. Mexicans are allowed to have dual citizenship so that should not be a problem for her nor her new born.

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 23, 2011

      @ DominicaFir

      You want Mexican cuisine, surf the Web or look in newspapers and other articles. I have recipes of every sort. Why not do likewise?
      The last thing Dominica wants is an influx of Mexicans. The situation is bad enough as it is. Have you read about some Mexicans, the drug cartels and murderers?
      The Minister of Immigration needs to investigate this woman’s character and legibility for landed stay. Until then, we will continue to be suspicious of her and her motives of coming to Dominica and remaining illegally in Dominica, then having a baby, trying to obtain a Dominican passport for the baby and now the naive Immigration System grants her a landed stay. How foolish and senseless could they be? So what do you resident Dominicans, if you are one, doing about that?

      • freedom
        July 24, 2011

        please please read the comment that i posted earlier.

      • DominicaFirst
        July 25, 2011

        I am a human being first, before I am a Dominican. Someone once said, “we are very more alike than we are different”
        Ms. Salas in my opinion is only seeking a better life here in Dominica and we welcome her and the baby.

        So many Convicted criminals, murderers, rapist all free in the streets of Roseau, why worry about a harmless Mexican Mother’s character.

        :Correction to my above comment; fine Mexican Restaurant.

  30. Dee
    July 23, 2011

    Careful DA or you will be run over by Mexicans like the states. If they get an opportunity Mexicans migrate in droves and take over having lots of babies. Look at states like California. Took in illegal Mexicans and their children now the state is broke….If you think Haitians bad wait to Mexicans come :-D

    • I know eh!
      July 25, 2011

      First of do you know the history of the united states? Mexico lost more than have of its lands to american invation. States like, Texas, Califonia, Arizona, New Mexico, were all once part of Mexico. Mexicans are just technically returning to the lands of their ancestors. Now Dominica is UNDER POPULATED, we need to increase our population if we are to start making it out of this economic down turn. Now Mexicans are very family oriented and in reality do not like moving that far from their families. For a mexican to leave thier homes it must be because of a very good reason. The recipes you find online are mostly american interpretations of mexican cuisine and not a true reflection of mexican foods. If you have ever been to mexico, in one of those pueblos, then you know what mexican food is. You will not find these online. I am sure you are one of those who would run out of Dominica the first chance you get and not return but still does not want others to come to Dominica. Do you really think a population of < 80, 000 on a country that size is really productive? Countries less than have our size are more populous than us and still wish to grow their population.
      Now putting all these aside. We need to learn to be human in Dominica, who do we think we are to discriminate against everyone? Unless you have been to one of them bigger countries and see ourselves on the other side of the coin we do not change. It is hurtful when you are being judged solely on your nationality, or race, or religion etc. Let us respect the basic human rights.

      • Truth,Love,Peace
        July 28, 2011

        Increase the population? Are you joking? There is employment in Dominica.
        There are enough adult Dominicans and married ones at that who could have babies to increase it. If they fail to do so then Dominica will, someday need additional people.
        I do think Dominica is fine as it is. It already has Chinese and Haitians. It does not need an influx of Mexicans.

    • Hola
      July 27, 2011

      Haitians are better than the Mexicans

  31. point
    July 23, 2011

    The girl has not committed any crime.The only problem is she overstayed.
    Let us take into consideration that she entered the country LEGALLY. What the lady has to do rite now is apply for extension and i guess she will have to pay a fee for overstaying. She also has to try to get a working permit so that she will be able to work legally in Dominica.

    And the biggest and best solution to her problem is marry her baby daddy and she will be fully legal in Dominica..

    Some of u all are just making some stupid comments about sending her bk..
    The girl has done nothing wrong EXCEPT overstaying.. She entered the country Legal, unlike some Dominicans who enter foreign countries illegal and just stuck in those people country..
    ANyway thats my point!!!!

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 23, 2011

      @point

      She overstayed her visit AND THAT IS A CRIME!She had a baby and wants a Dominican passport for him so that she, too, could eventually get one. What is her motive?
      Where are your brains? You are the one who are making stupid comments and deviating from the issue.

    • ANALYST
      July 25, 2011

      @POINT

      UR POINT IS?..JUST OUT OF CURIOUSITY, IF U ENTER A MAN’S COUNTRY AND U ARE GIVEN TIME, AND THAT TIME EXPIRES AND U MAKE THE DECISION NOT TO REGULARISE UR STATUS, UNDER THE LAW, IS THIS A CRIME?..AS I SAID, UR POINT IS???…

    • Shoe in the other fo
      July 25, 2011

      I agree with you. Some Dominicans over stay in America, Canada and other countries, they make children there too.

    • yes
      July 27, 2011

      who know’s if the child father is not a Mexican.

  32. Exception to the law
    July 23, 2011

    Man people should be free to go where ever they want to go and live. and regardless of laws they still do, whether they are criminals or hard workers. I am proud of her for making her child in Dominica, cause all dem dominicans that have a visa running to the states to make their children. Wrong injections i would give them in de hospitals if i was dem americans. Nonsense. how all u expect everytime allu have to make a child to just go in them people country to make it? alllu doe want dominican children them. to me it is an blessing to be born in the caribbean. How many people can say that. the fact that she make it in D/a she should get a medal, more dominicans should follow her. to every rule ther is an exception and she was it so get over it.

  33. July 23, 2011

    Let us flip the coin and recall all Dominican citizens like ‘MYSELF” who migrated to a foreign country legally…America in my case and overstayed. My dad eventually filed for me after “HE” overstayed and received amnesty. I am now married to a US citizen and have 3 American born kids but a foreign country gave me a break and opportunities that I could not find in DA because the resources were so limited. Be merciful and treat her like our citizens have been treated when we migrated and overstayed all over the globe. There are now approximately 250,000 Dominicans living out of the Island. What if we were all placed on a boat and shipped back?

    • sot
      July 23, 2011

      What is wrong with Dominica Law we acting like we are some dam fools could a Dominican get away with that in Mexico Dominica have a problem A friend of mine was on a bus in Miami some Haitian was joking how they going Dominica and buy Dominica passport and how they love Perro so when they commit there crime is dominican that do it am so sorry for what my country become the place is a hot mess.Law is law the child is a dominican fool but she is not > good for you yo maried your American see you feel so proud to married a American is so all you does catch all you royal ass and eating all you Mc Donal who cares who you married my Question is are you happy I hope is not you that cooking and cleaning the house like all island men who married American do house husband.

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 23, 2011

      @ Concerned

      We would be able to build Dominican up, work and open businesses. Dominica lost a lot by some of us migrating to foreign lands which is considered brain-drain. There would have been very little need if none at all for foreigners. Ever thought of it?

    • Anonymous
      July 24, 2011

      IF I WAS CLOSE TO YOU….I WOULD SHAKE YOUR BIG TOE WITH PLEASURE……

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 24, 2011

      @ Concerned

      They received their landed stay overseas through legal immigration process.
      You appear to forget that Dominica Immigration knows nothing about this woman and gave her a landed stay. This is the issue.

  34. Concerned
    July 23, 2011

    Since this topic is a very controversal matter that gets to the core of many
    Dominican Nationals here as well as abroad, THIS RULE OF GIVING A FOREIGNER A DOMINICAN PASSPORT AND CITIZENSHIP ON THE PREMISE OF HAVING A BABY BORN ON DOMINICAN SOIL, SHOULD BE RIGHTLY CHALLENGED AND ADDRESSED IN THE HIGHER COURTS OF THE LAND.
    We must think of our Future children and the laws that will govern and guide them.
    America is falling down today because she was blindly too generous. Millions of illegals have come in and bilked the country dry. Today the legal citizens are paying for it in taxes,unemployment, overcrowding especially in schools etc. Many hospitals have closed because illegals use the facilities and don’t pay. Yes, there are many illegal Dominicans living and making babies in the USA but they do not get
    citizenship that way. They jolly well have to wait untill their children turn either 18, or 21yrs to file for citizenship on behalf of their parents. TWO WRONGS DOES NOT MAKE A RIGHT.
    Sooner, not later, an exodus of Dominican Nationals and some of their children will be coming home. Will there be enough space for them and their extended family?
    Will there be well written and fair Laws to guide them in a more complex society?

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 23, 2011

      @ Concerned

      We may not always agree on certain topics but your comments are to-the-point and correct.
      The government needs to look into this one of granting a woman landed status, one who overstayed her visit, has a baby and then applies for a passport for the baby.
      I have stated that her landed status should be revoked because she did not go through the normal immigration application process which would be expected of every foreigner. This is the Law of the land with no exception and preferential treatment.

    • Anonymous
      July 24, 2011

      THIS WOMAN WAS GRANTED A PERMIT….NOT CITIZENSHIP..AND I CAN BET YOU IT WAS NOT MORE THAN SIX MONTHS, SHE MUST GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND WHO KNOW SHE MIGHT NOT EVEN MEET THE REQUIREMENT……

      • Truth,Love,Peace
        July 28, 2011

        Let us hope so but this is not what the Officer implied in this article when she was granted a stay. It appears that she will remain in Dominica forever.

  35. sunshine
    July 23, 2011

    First and foremost, lets give this young woman the benefit of a doubt.
    Young people fall in love and have babies.
    She and her lover may very well be madly in love. The baby is the end-product of their love. Dad most likely does not have a Mexican passport nor does he want to part with his baby and lover. Maybe they are not in a position to get married. Here comes the judge’s humanitarian reasoning.

    On the other hand this may be the tip of the iceberg of the Mexican drug cartel or she maybe running away from the drug killings taking place in some parts of Mexico.
    She can very well get a passport for her
    Dominican born baby and go back to her country. Once granted citizenship, the Law cannot change with any other Nationals. So Lawyers and Judges be careful with the Laws of the Land.
    What you’ve assigned as Laws of Dominica today may come back and bite you for years to come.
    I think some young aspiring lawyers should challenge this rule as unconstitutional.

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 23, 2011

      @ Sunshine

      What love? Prove it!
      You mean infatuation, lust and fornication, out of wedlock? She knew very well what she was doing.

  36. REASONING
    July 23, 2011

    My sister has children born french and could not obtain a french passport for them while they were still minors although she and the children were living there legally and are still living there,the french authorities asked her to get the children a Dominican passport which he did.I would like to know what does the Dominican law says in regard to this situation?The excuse used by the margistrate is poor since the child do not have to live in Dominica for its survival,it is the mother who wants to use the baby for staying on island.The lawyer is doing a job and the margistrate does not have to agree with him,but we know how these things work in Dominica,the lawyer and the margistrate are colleagues.

    • Portsmouth I from
      July 25, 2011

      You not glad ur sister’s children get a Dominican passport although they were not born here. I hope u know that baby more Dominican than ur sister’s children

  37. freedom
    July 23, 2011

    There is a great debate going on here that is based on a tiny amount of information that has been released through the media. All this speculation and rumor is very typical of the way that Dominicans think. A tiny sprinkle of fact get bounced about from mouth to mouth until it manifests itself into a monster which gets uglier and more dangerous with every passing day. The media thrives on this ignorance, and is slowly creating a society so filled with fear, and so easily manipulated with half truths and parts of the fact. Free your minds and hearts. Pass comment only that which you know all the facts. A note to the person who is called truth, justice…you seem to be very well educated and genuinly concerned about this case. I agree with much of what you say, but how can you be so opinionated about a case of which you really know a tiny amount of the facts. The woman involved in this case is (like yourself) a very well educated and very honest person who was a victim of circumstance and was left with very little choice but to take the decision to do what she did. It is truly not my intention to provoke you into a responce, and i do not want anyone in this dicussion to feel insulted by what i have written, but to just make you see the bigger picture, and to understand that a little knowledge can sometimes be a dangerous thing, and only when you are presented with ALL the facts of the case can you really pass such deep and hard thought comment on it. This woman is not a murderer nor is she involved in any drug cartel. She did not come to Dominica with a calculated plan to make a baby so as to gain her status in the country. Please take comfort in the fact that this is a woman who came into the country for all the right reasons, that is because she has a genuine love of nature, purity and peace, which we Dominicans should be proud that our beautiful island has been blessed with.

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 23, 2011

      @ Freedom

      You are a bleeding heart; shedding crocodile tears for an illegal alien. Making excuses for her?
      Mexico is not as small as Dominica. She could make a good livelihood in Mexico.
      She remained in Dominica illegally. What was she doing there? Why did she not return to her country?
      Then let her go public with her information and inform Dominicans accordingly so that they could be satisfied.
      She is an adult. Was she raped? Oh please, give us a break. Whom do you expect to believe your comments? I am reiterating that the Immigration Minister must investigate this woman. You do not take people at their word. Many have deceived Dominicans of all with their smiles and congenial mannerisms, some devils in disguise.
      Stanford and others deceived West Indians. Keep this in mind. Until this investigation is conducted, Dominicans will not rest.

  38. Anonymous
    July 23, 2011

    hope she is not one of the drug lord hiding in dominica we have to keep an eye open they killing just like men listen to news from her place they bad like those men

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 23, 2011

      @ Anonymous

      And a murderer also of many people.

  39. Dominican in T.O
    July 23, 2011

    I love Dominica…but Dominica has some, if not the dumbest judges on planet earth…

  40. Dominican in T.O
    July 23, 2011

    At least its not a haitian…

  41. thats life
    July 22, 2011

    ha ha.who is da daddy. mysterious.. we will never find out too many clients.lol.we want a dna.lol.maybe somebody husband.lol.who vex loss. I taking my kix

    in life we dont always get positive feedbacks and i am usually one of them who do so but this time with this spanish baby story dere..boyy.. hmmm

  42. vybz
    July 22, 2011

    leave de f**kin woman alone look how much d.a people living in other people country illegally and even breed dere 2

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 23, 2011

      @ vybz

      Not a valid/legal point. :twisted:

  43. true dominican
    July 22, 2011

    Dominicans don’t respect Dominica, so that’s why every one will come from no way and stay in Dominica course there is no law,french people tell you they don;t care if your born in the french country as-long the mother and father is not french that child is not french;my Dominican friend make two chidren
    (twins)in st Thomas immigration hold the mother course she was overstayed they send both she and the twins to Dominica the twin going to school in the village we can do the same

  44. Anonymous
    July 22, 2011

    This is a very ticklish issue. The judge made a decision on humanitarian grounds.Dominicans (I am Dominican) who have a small scope of international law and reciprocity principle, may not understand the complexity of the situation. Some are calling for the young lady to be sent back to Mexico immediately, claiming that the child is entitled to Mexican nationality through its mother. Whilst this is true, we must understand that w/out a Mexican or Dominican passport the child cannot travel internationally.Hence, the child needs its Dominican documents to move on. Furthermore, the baby who is still breastfeeding (newborn) cannot be separated from its mother, especially if the child doesn’t have Dominican relatives who can serve as its legal guardians.This lady’s lawyer can make a strong claim for her. She pays taxes (VAT) because I’m sure she goes to the supermarket to buy formula or baby items.She has no record of any criminal offence since she has been on the island apart from overstaying her visa. She is at a better chance of securing an extension of her stay or legal residence because she came in on a legal visa, as opposed to someone who entered the country illegally. Why do you think that some of our own ppl secure legal status in other countries even if they overstay? It’s because they came to these countries legally in the first place. This is the same situation with the Mexican lady. We Dominicans need to educate ourselves a bit more before we come on and speak about issues of which we have little knowledge or are ignorant! I believe that she may have probable cause to be granted an extension of her visa. PUNTO FINAL!

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 23, 2011

      @ Anonymous

      You are contradicting yourself in different writings. Who is the father? Where is he? Are you stating that she had a child with an irresponsible/non-caring father? Review your comments.
      Are Dominicans to believe that she got pregnant in Dominica or prior to arriving in Dominica? Either way she overstayed her visit and this is the issue and a crime. Someone supported her. Someone paid for her hospital stay. Someone continues to feed her or is that she has ample money to support herself and the baby. Food for thought. I am, once again, reiterating, something sounds fishy in this case and needs to be investigated.

  45. July 22, 2011

    Well there was a case in California where an illegal mexican female had a child born in the US was deprted back to Mexico and she was told that the could return with her to Mexico but he is free to return to the United states because he is a citizen. Bare in mind that any child who is born in England to an undocumented parent, that child is not considered as a British subject. Having a child in a ountry does not give you the right to stay in the country and seek citizenship. In the US even though our children are US citizen the child is still considered a child of an illegal alien and that child is subject to scrutiny. She did not know to go back to immigration but she knew to go and get a passport for the child. Fire burn those lawyers that defend those type of cases. Now she will get to stay in Dominica and breed children like flies. Instead of looking to better yourself the first thing is to get pregnant to stay in the country.

    • July 23, 2011

      I disagree with some of your comments and in the future think before you put pen to paper why on earth do you believe she will be making children like flies would you like someone to say that of your sister or mother if they were in a situation like this lady, and another thing their are a lot of women that go away to North A’ca just to make there babies just to make sure that when they grow up they came return without any peoplem but that is not a sure thing either I know of friends when their children were born in the USA and when the children were returning they had to apply like any other because they lived outof the USA much to long, so it’s not just sitting back and run your mouth educate yourself first if you haven got any legal insight read up on the immigration act.
      The judge is correct the lady broke the law and she should ask to leave with her child that’s what is expected by law it doesnt matter if her child dad is D’can or not it would be ridiculous to try to seperate her from her child and I hope her lawyer stand up for her and to make sure her child and herself are taken care off I am sure this lady dont want to be in D’CA any more.
      Getting pregnant to beable to stay in a country is something that havce been taking place for years so where have you been do you believe this is the first case for D”ca you so laughable.
      Dominicans open your mind dont be un patriotic..

      • July 23, 2011

        Mexicans breed like flies. I live in the US and I see that everyday. They have two in a stroller and they pregnant. Next thing you know the whole family will be in Dominica. She overstayed and is illegal she should not be granted any right because of the child. Remove the blinders. To all those who say we Dominicans go an make children in America some of us return back to Dominica. We are not granted any green card or citizenship becuase we make a child in the country. The judge was paid under the table maybe by the cartels for that is what happening in Dominica today justice is blind. A man kills and he walks free. Send her back to her country. She just meet a man and get pregnant and go for passport for the child. Was she planning on going back to Mexico so she went to apply for a passport. She will be able to go to Barbados to apply for a visa to travel to the US. If the child is a baby what passport do you want unless you are planning to travel. Very soon Dominicans will become nongrater in people country for they will claim to be Dominicans and commit crimes and the real Dominicans will have no say for they are already tarnished.
        To all those who supprt that she should stay because of the child go to to Mexico and overstay, make a child and think they will keep you in their country and give you citizenship because you make a child there. they will put your A$$ in jail and you will never see the light of day.
        Remove the blinders and think before making such stupid comment.

  46. July 22, 2011

    If she is an illegal immigrant she need to be deported regardless of her Dominican born baby. some years ago a Jamaican woman and her four Canadian born kids were deported back to Jamaica, the kids will be able to return to Canada, when they reaches the age of 18 then sponsor their mother, Mexico is a well developed country/Tourist destination, wondering why this Mexican woman came to Dominica, hope that she is not one, who is wanted in the USA, wondering if she is a former employee of one of the notorious villas/hotels, or one of those drug cartel kidnappers/Mexican pirates, she over stayed her stay got pregnant, give birth, and it is ok this is ridiculous, this woman need to be investigate, this country law and immigration policy is the laughing stock of the world. on Monday the (CIC) Citizenship and Immigration Canada released information of 1800 immigrants/Canadian Citizens facing deportation, reason is that they mislead CIC authorities, lied on their applications in order to remain in the country, those involved in human trafficking and so on, babies or not they will be deported, it is very hard for me to cannot stomach Mexicans, fleeing Mexico and coming to DA, you keep hearing Dominicans outside the nature isle saying that the only reason they migrated to other countries is due to lack of job opportunities, all dogs and cats running to DA for safe haven

  47. July 22, 2011

    who she make the child for nuh! was she married? they coming and take our man from us even when the men married

    • July 22, 2011

      u know it might be my husband wee

    • hira
      July 23, 2011

      very stupid comment, sayin “they takin our man from us”
      y don’t u say Allu men is leaving allu for them..The spanish is not the problem, is the “men that is the problem..I am sure they are the ones who makin the move on the spanish first..

  48. Roz
    July 22, 2011

    Come to think of it, arent we getting scholarships from Mexico? Reciprocity is at play. I have nothing against Spanish, es mi gente! It would appear this issue goes beyond the letter of the written law and into dipomatic territory.

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 22, 2011

      @ Roz

      Dominica is getting scholarships from Mexico? Mexico will do well to take care of its nationals and utilize the money to get rid of those drug cartels which are a menace to society. In recent months some Canadian visitors have been murdered in Mexico. Mexico is a bad place. Although I know some people who visited the tourists resorts, I have no interest to visit there as a tourist.
      Places that I am aware are unsafe as Mexico, worst than where I am presently residing, I will never visit. While I am certain there are law-abiding people in Mexico as in every country, those drug cartels are lawless and defy the Law. They also recruit children to carry-out their dirty work. God will take care of them in time.
      I am unable to comprehend why the Mexican government cannot do something about it. This includes the former ones who allowed these crimes to get out of hand.
      They have allowed them to increase their illegal activities and murders.
      Never end up in a Mexican jail. From what I have heard via TV it is a living Hell. Also the Mexican government is corrupt.

      • Anonymous
        July 23, 2011

        @ TRUTH_JUSTICE….WHY DO YOU PREACH GOD AND DEVIL AT THE SAME TIME……..? ONE HUMAN BEING SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED BY THE WRONG DOING OF A COUNTRY…..DO YOU KNOW THE AMOUNT OF DOMINICAN IN NORTH AMERICAN AND ALL OVER THE WORLD, WHO GOT TO STAY IN THE SAID COUNTRY. BECAUSE OF PREGNANCY….THOSE LIVING IN GLASS HOUSES OR HAS FAMILIES LIVING IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THROUGH STONES…..

  49. Da2debone
    July 22, 2011

    I am not in support of what the woman did but we Dominicans does do the same thing> At least she enter via Melville Hall check out how many Dominicans that pass backdoor and went to St.Marteen,St.Thomas,Guadelopue, the great and might UNITED STATES OF American and make children the kids are americans and the parents still remains in the country illegal. you cant punish the child the mother is at fault. So lets GIVE THE DAMN WOMAN A BREAK stupes

  50. Mariachi Maestro
    July 22, 2011

    Dominica is already under populated, pastors ordering abortion like them fellas drinking kubuli – we need people in D/ca so welcome the lady into our island. Who knows Dominica will be introduced Tacos and Burrittos. Put those old health hazrd fast food chains out of business.

    • hiLL
      July 23, 2011

      very funny..dominicans will b introduced to Tacos and Buritos…hahahah

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 23, 2011

      @ Mariachi Maestro

      Have some babies in wedlock and encourage your fellow Dominicans to have them as well. Then there will be no need for non-Dominicans in the land.
      Dominicans must help themselves and build-up their country. Are they allowing non-Dominicans to do likewise? They are losing out.

  51. dhestini
    July 22, 2011

    so ok. doing the maths…her stay expired in february 2010. we r in july 2011. dats 17 mths of illegal stay. 9 mths of pregnancy. which wld make d baby bout 9 mths (assuming she got pregnant while she was still here legally). now…newborn, so id assume the child shld be bout 1-2 mths to still be considered ‘newborn’. which meant she got pregnant in july-august last yr. dats 4-5 mths after her time expired. what was wrong during those mths? y hadnt she reported to immigration?

    now she got a permit to stay here…for how long, since she’s already committed an offense by staying her illegally. did immigration retain her passport to ensure that she leaves d country when her time is due? im tellin u eh. dominica is the only country where these things happen. smh

  52. interesting
    July 22, 2011

    1. Yes immigration has been very lame in this matter.
    2. Yes, Dominicans leave here every week, going in search of greener pastures, many without permanent residence or citizenship status.
    3. Set aside the Mexican woman for a moment, what about all the Hatian women coming to have babies here.
    4. All the woman from Dominican Republic living here, working here.
    5. What about the 2 African Men in the cell for several months.
    Is there any consistency ? Like most things in the country now, it is simply just another joke.

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 22, 2011

      @ interesting

      You appear to have over-looked a few things. First of all, the issue is about the Mexican woman not the Haitians or Africans at this time. Those of you who make such comments should stick to the issue.
      Haiti had a hurricane and then the earthquake. Haitians came to Dominica as refugees. I read that the Dominican government stated that they will not be sent back. This is a different matter.
      What are the African men doing in Dominica and for what reason?
      The Mexican woman overstayed her visit. The government was not then aware of that, I hope. The government does not know who that woman is and what type of background she has. Yet she was immediately given a landed status. Whoever is responsible for this have done Dominica and its nationals a great disservice.
      She is not to be exonerated. She could have been a murderer for that matter. The government needs to investigate this matter and to investigate her background. Surely, sensible people should know this.
      Consider, would a Mexican who is well-established in his/her country with a good job and reputation decide to come to Dominica?
      I will continue to ask how did she manage to choose Dominica? There are a lot of questions to be asked and answered and your government/immigration owe it to you to respond about this Mexican woman being granted resident status.
      The person who harbored her should be arrested, charged and imprisoned. Paying money is not sufficient.
      You Dominicans who lambaste the Prime Minister should be fair and just. You are not even being fair to your own country and nationals.
      She should never have been granted legal stay and not so quickly. I urge you to pursue this matter. It is a serious one.

  53. joan
    July 22, 2011

    We must say one and all. we Dominicans go to other countries and make baby and we had to stay… why not give the lady a break, is it because she is Spanish…. Women are women wherever they go make babies and stay in other people country… so we must behave ourselves when we are saying to deport her…Give the woman a break…

    • Alas
      July 22, 2011

      we made babies with green cards in our hands! and other documents we needed to stay….

      • Bone
        July 22, 2011

        Liar!!! You made them on Visitor’s Visa!! lol!!!

      • Alas
        July 29, 2011

        Fine Den I Shall be Taking For The Lady! She Do Damn Right Over Stay!!! Sttps….I Glad Yeah She Did Like Otehr Dominicans And Go and Bring Chile and Say WE Have Green Card! All U Morons happy

    • Harris
      July 22, 2011

      ARE YOU MAD.WHO KNOW WHAT THIS WOMAN DID.SEND HER BACK,THEY SEND ME BACK FROM CANADA WITH MY TWO KIDS.AND TOLD ME THAT WHEN THEY ARE 18,THEY WILL FILE FOR ME.PLEASE THEY GAVE ME A CHOICE TO TAKE MY KIDS OR LEAVE THEM.SO I TOOK MY KIDS AND LEFT,THEY ARE NOW 12 YEARS OLD,AND I HAD TWINS PLEASE.KIDS DON’T GIVE YOU PERMANENT RESIDENT. DOMINICAN LAWS ARE JUST TO STUPID.I HAVE TWO FRIENDS FROM GHANA,THEY WANT TO GO TO NY BUT CAN’T GET A US VISA SO I WILL HAVE TO TELL THEM JUST COME TO D/CA HAVE A BABY OR TWO AND THEY CAN GET THEIR PAPERS AND PASSPORT TO GET THEIR VISA TO GO TO NY. IS FREE PORT WE FREE PORT

      • living in sxm
        July 22, 2011

        Yes it’s true what you are saying.
        I know of a dominican lady living here for years and had five kids with a kittician.She had been working here from the day she arrived here and was never given papers.One day whilst travelling on my husband’s bus she was picked up and sent to Dominica. The children were given to their dad who is legal. So if they can do it to her why can’t they do it to the illegal mexican. A lot of people pass through dominica to come to sxm and then after settling here they start to criticise and say how poor dominica is.I too am a foreigner in another man’s country, but I have to agree that other countries expel dominicans everyday so why should we just accept them.

      • Anonymous
        July 23, 2011

        You would have been happy to stay! so be happy for the spanish woman that she got to stay in your country; DO unto others what you want to be done unto you!Am not saying it is right or wrong,am saying you wanted the same as she got,stop hateing!

      • living in sxm
        July 23, 2011

        hey anonymous I left dominica on a one month visa to join my husband, by the way he is french, in guadeloupe and got my papers the same week. I would never live illegaly anywhere and i would have rather live in my country and eat dirt than leave in another man’s country and hide everyday.My kids are french because of my husband. What some of you don’t know is a lot of those people think that they can do whatever they want in Dominica and dominicans have to take it because we are poor. That my friend is one of the reasons why I’m against what is going on now. I live in sxm and hearing all the time what some of those “fake” dominicans saying about how our houses are ugly and we are so poor and how they only used dominica as a byway to get to others countries. Please people open your eyes. Like I’m hearing that the haitians took over the market and are driving buses and so on. Dominica is under populated now but with these people it won’t be long before we become over populated.

      • Truth,Justice,Peace
        July 23, 2011

        @ Harris

        I sympathize with you. I do believe that if you had a good Immigration Lawyer, a legal one, this would not have happened.
        I have read that some men who got in trouble with the Law and who were imprisoned, after some years were given a reprieve to remain in Canada. This should not have happened to you. There are other cases which I think that those people should not have been granted resident status.
        I read the article of a prominent lawyer and he seems to be effective.
        Your children are Canadian-born and I hope they return be it to study. Then, they can apply for you. I wish all of you the best.
        Keep praying. God bless you and your children!

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 22, 2011

      @ joan

      You have missed the issue and point. Utilize your basic common sense. Who is that woman? The issue here is that she was granted legal status without due immigration process which she did not even ask for. Are your officials stupid/senseless or what?
      Dominicans who go to those countries and have babies will never be granted immediate legal status because they have a baby or more in that country. The Law of those lands is that they will still have to go through the immigration process as anyone else. Only after immigration deems them fit to be granted resident status will they obtain it. Otherwise, they will be deported. It has been done.
      Those Dominican officials who accorded her legal status have greatly erred. They who are the law-makers have breached the Law of the land.
      They have shown that they care not for the feelings of the majority of Dominicans and in this issue and their safety. They owe Dominicans a response to what they have done and also an apology.
      Canada is in the process of revoking the citizenship of 1,800 people who fraudulently obtained resident status and then citizenship and pension fund, also who are welfare recipients. Some of them do not reside in Canada but only come here, if only for a few months (may be not at all) and to receive medical attention as they also collect pension which they never worked for. I have stated enough on this matter. Read my comments.
      I do not speak and make statements in futility and without reason.
      May you and those who make foolish statements about Dominicans who go abroad and have babies be enlightened accordingly. I reiterate that those governments will never grant them or others immediate resident status without they having to go through the immigration process.
      I am upset with those Dominican officials as previously stated. They have done wrong and to Dominica and its residents.
      Those who wish to reside in a country must follow the countries protocol – Period! That is the Law of the land. Those officials who granted her immediate status should be arrested and charged and even imprisoned for violating the Law of Dominica, they who are the law-makers.
      This woman and her background should be investigated. Need I say more?

  54. ANTIGUAN
    July 22, 2011

    My man is Dominican..is it right for me to overstay and use the excuse that because Im pregnant I couldnt reularise my status?..She said she knew she was committing an offense, but yet still she found the time now to try to get a DA passport for her new born. I dont think the decision by the magistrate sends a good message out there.

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 22, 2011

      @ Antiguan

      You are correct. Note the lax immigration which exists in Dominica.

  55. mmm
    July 22, 2011

    Dominique kah ani masai stray

  56. hope
    July 22, 2011

    How could a foreign woman have had access to our health care and there was no asking about her status on the island? How could she have had a baby in the hospital without her illegal status becoming apparent?

    it is not the court which has failed but rather the entire system. More than a year illegal on island and there is no mechanism to find you out? We really do need to revisit our laws.

    Bouquets to the immigration officers who did their jobs well. I am proud of you.

    Every Dominican child has a right to its piece of Dominica and its parents as well but the law must now be amended to deal with such cases, so that people do not think that MY land will tolerate that kind of manipulation of our constitution.

    As for the illogical arguments that Dominicans are doing it overseas so why complain, well that is what it is, just another illogical argument formed in the minds of shallow men.

    So let me admonish all our learned people: stop the nonconstructive criticism and make meaningful contributions geared at protecting OUR land.

    • hiT
      July 22, 2011

      I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH THE PART WHERE U SAY HOW THE WOMAN CAN HAVE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE AND WAS NOT ASKED ABOUT HER LEGAL STATUS..HEALTH CARE SHOULD NOT BE DENIED TO ANYONE, CITIZEN OR NOT!!

      U SHOULD ASK SOME OF THE LADIES IN DA THAT COME TO AMERICA TO HAVE THEIR BABIES AND AFTER 3 MNTHS GO BACK DOWN TO DA..

      PEOPLE COME TO AMERICA AND HAVE BABIES AND THEY R NOT ASKED ABOUT THEIR STATUS IN THE COUNTRY..
      SO I TOTALLY DISAGREE ABOUT THE PART WHERE U SAY “HOW CLD SHE HAVE A BABY IN THE HOSPITAL WITHOUT HER ILLEGAL STATUS BECOMING APPARENT”

      ITS NOT THE JOBS OF NURSES OR DRS TO KNOW
      WHATS THE LEGAL STATUS OF PATIENTS. IF THAT WAS THE CASE, PEOPLE WHO ARE IN OTHER COUNTRIES WITHOUT PAPERS WLD BE SENT HOME EVERYDAY, IF THEY HAD TO REVEAL THEIR LEGAL STATUS TO DRS AND NURSES..

      THATS ONE THING THAT SHLD NOT BE DENIED TO ANYONE..HEALTHCARE!!!

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 22, 2011

      @ hope

      As the saying goes, oh boy (even though you are a man or a woman) :), you are so correct.
      Dominicans should get on their backs and demand an answer. It is their land. Immigration cannot just opt out and grant someone a landed status without due immigration process. What type of people are they and what type of minds do they possess? One would also ask what type of Law exists in Dominica.
      There is no excuse for giving a non-national who exceeded her visit and remained on the island illegally, immediate landed status because she has a baby without the person going through the usual immigration process. It is the height of stupidity on the part of those officials. They make their own Law and ignore the Dominican Law and its nationals concerns and safety.
      Dominicans are entitled to a valid response.
      Those of us Dominicans and even non-Dominicans who also reside abroad and who hear and read of this will obviously be shocked. We, too, Dominicans, will demand an answer.
      Her status should be revoked because the woman did not go through the immigration process.
      It is unheard of and no government/ immigration practice this in any land that a non-resident and an illegal one would be granted immediate legal status just because that person had a baby. Only in Dominica you say?
      If you reside in Dominica, keep up the heat.
      God bless you!

  57. come see
    July 22, 2011

    All the world knows what is going on in mexico with drug cartelle. who bring this woman here and what was she doing during that time? my nephew was born in St.Martin he was held and sent to guadeloupe although he had his birth certificate to face a judge just because his parents were Dominicans and took him back to DA when he was small. if the woman had stayed in her country her child would be born there so send her go.

    • Waco Jacko
      July 22, 2011

      stupidest comment ever

    • Jespen
      July 22, 2011

      Please tell me that you do not have Family in the US who had to wait ten years before they could have returned home for a visit.

      you are a fuchet or a mule?

    • Portsmouth I from
      July 25, 2011

      You lie, tell us what ur nephew really did.. Liard!!!!

  58. hiN
    July 22, 2011

    I DIDN’T KNOW DOMINICA HAD IMMIGRATION LAW..I THOUGHT DA WAS A FREEPORT..
    WELL WE WILL JUST HAVE MIXED SPANISH KIDS IN DA NAH,,DATS ALL..WE HAVE MIXED CARIBS, MIXED WHITES,MIXED HATIANS, I DON’T KNOW IF WE HAVE MIXED CHINESE…DA NEEDS TO BE A MELTING POT..DIFFERENT CULTURES, DAT MAKES THE PLACE MORE INTERESTING AND LIVELY!!!
    SO MANY DOMINICANS IN AMERICA WITHOUT PAPERS, SOME OF U ALL BLASTING THE MEXICANS..I AM SURE SOME OF ALLU HAVE FAMILY IN AMERICA AND OTHER CARIBBEAN COUNTRIES WITHOUT PAPERS AND U ALL WLD NOT LIKE ALLU FAMILY TO B DEPORTED..THEY HAVE NO PAPERS AND THEY R THE SAME ONES WHO SEND BARRELS FOR U ALL, WHICH U ALL ENJOY VERY MUCH!!
    ALL THE MEXICAN HAVE TO DO IS JUST LET HER BABY DADDY MARRY HER SO SHE CAN GET HER DA PAPERS..

    • ANON
      July 22, 2011

      mixxx chineeesssseee?????????? allu wish!!!
      that race there so copawason is not our dirty black skin those chinese women will want to lay on their belly… even them chinese fellas when i ask them how they like dominica woman they shaking their head and saying their bottom to big. is flat bottom they like and short petite women… i hoping to see that one we…..
      let us keep our fingers crossed

    • UH HMMMM
      July 22, 2011

      OH YES WE HAVE MIXED CHINESE

  59. Justwondering
    July 22, 2011

    They cannot deport a citizen and the child is a citizen of The Commonwealth of Dominica for the one person that suggested both the Mexican and the baby should be deported. If she is employed in Dominica a work permit can be sought for her or she could get married to the baby daddy. I think the judge made a wise decision and Im sure she did it in accordance with our immigration laws. Stop blaming the judge she has to operate within the laws that she has available to her. If you are not happy with this decision then protest to have our immigration laws updated.

    • creative
      July 22, 2011

      I fully agree. People don’t understand that all these judges and magistrate’s have to operate within the current laws of Dominica which are on the books, and all these laws need to be reviewed and revised. This is a different age from when these laws were written more than 40 years ago, if not more.

    • living in sxm
      July 22, 2011

      o yes they can my friend
      some time ago a haitian woman was seperated from her six month old baby because she had no papers. the baby was taken from her and given to the DASS. she was married and her husband too was legal but they told him he would have to prove that he could work and take care of the baby at the same time. so until then the dass would have to take the baby until he put in papers for his wife. so of course these things happen everyday like i said before

      • July 23, 2011

        Not as you said it, only in Dominica this shit happen because of a child one automatically become resident of a country this is false

      • living in sxm
        July 24, 2011

        What i meant about these things happen everyday is that they deport people everyday even though their children were born in the country. That’s what i tried to explain about the haitian woman. Please people pay attention to what is happening all over the world where you have an influx of people. I have all my relatives in Dominica and i would not like them to be hurt by these people. They enter a country and they just take over. In Maimi who do you have workingg in immigration “MEXICANOS” and some of them can hardly speak english. Soon or later she will start to invite her relatives to “come visit” and then when they do it will be like in sxm. I know of two sisters who got killed because their brother started dealing with these people and he too later, his body was found in the trunk of a car with a bullet in his head. Then just recently two brothers were killed one after the other for the same reason, associating with these people. Why do you think that some of these people try to come and live in a “poor” country like dominica? Because they want to try building their nest there and then you know what happens after. I may be living in another country but i have my relatives living in Dominica and i would like to know that they are safe. Time will tell if all these people could just say they are visiting and boom make baby and are allowed to stay.

  60. True D/can
    July 22, 2011

    so many of us have left Dominica and it is underpopulated, so let the people come in. i agree with the decision. and yes the baby is dominican, unlike some islands where all the baby gets is a birth certificate and have to get a passport from the parents mother land. In D/ca we not ignorant.

  61. OSAMA BEN YOUR MODA
    July 22, 2011

    LOOK TROUBLE… WELCOME TO LITTLE MEXICO..BUT IF IT WAS ONE OF US WHO LANDED IN MEXICO WE WOULD HAVE BEEN SOME DEAD MOFO’S BECAUSE MAJORITY OF THEM DESPISE BLACK PEOPLE.

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 22, 2011

      I agree with you. Yes, she was accorded preferential treatment which she did not deserve as a non-national who overstayed her visit without the approval of the government/immigration. You see the point of the matter and why the sensible people are upset?
      Those officials need to be fired, if not re-trained.

  62. Roz
    July 22, 2011

    Talk about abuse of our system. Since when having a baby in a place gives you any rights to stay in that place? Especially since she was out of status long before that baby was born. She and the baby should be given a date by which to leave the country. Is either our laws are non-exitent, too lenient, or leave too much discretion in the hands of the magistrates for interpretation. smh

    • Justwondering
      July 22, 2011

      There are countries in the world where having a baby gives the parents immigration rights. Up to the late 70’s the United States offered benefits to parents of US citizens but those laws were changed.

      • Truth,Justice,Peace
        July 22, 2011

        @ Justwonderi

        Because people abused of the system.

    • La Plainian
      July 22, 2011

      I disagree with ur statement, the baby is a national of DOMINICA it was born here. So u deport the mother but i dont think u can deport someone from there place of birth. (i don’t know the law on this issue but am just saying)

    • hope
      July 22, 2011

      i share your frustration.Dominica is all i have and i just hate to see some of the things that go on in my land.

    • Anonymous
      July 22, 2011

      Would u like it for yourself?

    • Harris
      July 22, 2011

      I AGREE WITH YOU.MY SISTER HAS THREE KIDS IN NY.AND SHE HAS NO PAPERS.AND WITH THOSE THREE KIDS SHE STILL CAN’T GET HER PAPERS.PLEASE STUPID DOMINICAN STUPID.THAT WOMAN KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOING. SHE KNOW OUR LAWS IS FULL OF SHI**T AND OUR SYSTEM IS WEAK ,WEAK I SAY WEAK.THIS WOMAN SHOULD BE DEPORTED,SHE AND THE CHILD,AND WHEN THAT CHILD IS 18 HE OUR SHE WILL FILE FOR THAT MOTHER.THIS PLACE IS TO LOOSE.I DOMINICA WHEN ARE WE GONNA LEARN.

    • Jespen
      July 22, 2011

      And the baby sing, ” I tell you this is the land of my birth, this is the land of my birth, Dominica, the sweet land of beauty, splendor and nature.”

  63. uandi
    July 22, 2011

    but don’t dominicans go to other countries and do the same thing??????

  64. July 22, 2011

    True Justice, on global part you make alot of sence, but practical. we are third world countries, The judge made a wise decision, but i am not agree with fine, there is a baby to support, is this woman working, who is the baby fahter. is she leaving with some one with money. how she living. I wouldn’t choice Dominica to come to leave, unless I am making more monies, than where i come from, There is more to it, maybe is love. for me don’t make sense, these women money talks.The baby is a dominican, you can’t take a child from it mother only under circumstances that will affect the child life, that international laws. only if is for change of passport, to move a next location for a better life. I am not living in Dominica. Where i am from, these people come from these countries,not to work hard labour, they work in strip clubs, illegal activities and drug. they don’t come in no one countries to work for minimum wages, unless they running from thier home land.

    • possie pam pam
      July 22, 2011

      her business dat

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 22, 2011

      @ Birdy 1964

      Nevertheless this woman needs to be investigated. You posed a few good questions and i appreciate that. This is something that the immigration system should have considered prior to giving her a landed stay, baby or not.
      As I previously stated. The baby is a baby and is not aware of anyone and anything at this time. It will not hurt the baby to deport her – for overstaying her visit. When the baby grows older and is aware of where he/she was born, if it so wishes, it could apply for Dominican citizenship and a passport.
      There is a reason why she overstayed her visit. Immigration should quiz her about it and investigate her Mexican background.
      It does appear to me that she used and abused Dominica’s welcome mat and the Dominica immigration system. She should be further investigated.
      Right now in Canada, after years of investigation and concerned Canadian’s numerous complaints and no doubt advice, the government is in the process of revoking the citizenship of approximately 1,800 people from certain countries who became citizens but who abused the systems in various ways as obtaining Pension Fund money and hospital, medical care and who also do not reside in the country. They come and go as they please. Some of them reside in this country but who got immigration counselors to assist them to become citizens and faked their information. It took the government years to find out but they eventually did. Those who are affected may resort to the higher courts and even utilize taxpayers money to procure a lawyer to defend them.
      Canadians, that is the patriotic ones, the hardworking ones, even the pensioners who are also law-abiding are not pleased, on occasion with the system but they are elated that finally the government has come to its right senses to do something, even though it took years. The Canadian system has been bilked of millions of dollars. Who paid for it? Taxpayers of course!
      It is stated that most of them came from China, Japan and bigger countries. Some of them posed as refugees. In order to travel to Canada, they require money to pay for their passage. Only the rich can afford it. Keep this in mind.
      This is where the patriotic and concerned Canadians come in. If we believe that something is not right and with the system, even though we know the people or not, it is imperative that we write or telephone our Member of Parliament and complain about it. We are performing our civic duty as we are obligated to do. It is not enough to speak about it or comment.
      A country needs a serious government who will take its nationals and their comment seriously.
      The government cannot be in the same place at the same time and also in our situation. Resident nationals must assist their government. Keep in mind this is why we voted for them. Those who do not vote do not have a voice and should not have a voice because they did not vote.
      If more people write and respectfully so, rest assured that something will eventually be done. This is how the world-wide government gets its information, from world-wide nationals. It is our obligation to assist our country and wherever we may reside.
      People do use and abuse our system. I do believe this is what this Mexican woman did and by having a baby. I take those matters seriously.
      At this point, the Canadian government is searching for some men who illegally migrated to this country and who were murderers, who committed atrocities in their countries. They use Canada and those other countries as their scapegoats and migrate here and also illegally to hide and then commit atrocities in this country. Keep in mind terrorists actions.
      The government and immigration of every country must be aware of people who come to their shores, who overstayed their visit and enquire why did they come in the first place and why did they decide to remain there. This is where the situation lies with the Dominican government/immigration to investigate this Mexican woman.
      Mexico is a much bigger country than Dominica. It is also a warm country as Dominica. Why would she want to remain in Dominica and for what purpose? This woman is worth investigating. May the government/ immigration minister pursue this concern for the benefit of Dominica and its nationals.
      We are the world and we can change the world.
      God bless Dominica!

  65. Justsaying.
    July 22, 2011

    Had it been in Antigua, she would be deported with the child.

    • Skye
      July 22, 2011

      That is one reason why the nationals get no sympathy now. Did you like how they spoke about your nationals after the last elections? You and other Caricom nationals were the topic at townhall meetings, did you like how the Agriculture Minister ridiculed your farmers and Hauksters?Do you like how that lady was vilified in St Maarteen?Do you know there are persons from your country living underground in others land?? That is what you like and want?
      All the authorities have to do is enforce your immigration laws, make them plain to all, let them know to live in your land they have to adhere to
      your rules and regulations, but please stop the
      Testiness and hypersensitivity because they are usually associated with guilt.
      I say Bravo to you for guarding and making sure the laws as dictated in your Constitution are safeguarded but do it with taste, reason and indifference. Let those with no sins cast the first stone. I await your rational and enlightened debate and comments. I

  66. Anonymous
    July 22, 2011

    MAN THE AMOUNT OF DOMINICANS IN NEW YORK, BOSTON, NEW JERSEY, LETS SAY ALL AROUND IN THE USA, AND AROUND THE WORLD ILLEGAL, AND YES IF ONE GET CAUGHT BY IMMIGRATION, THEY WILL BE TAKEN INTO CUSTODY AND BE QUESTIONED….I KNOW OF A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NORTH AMERICA WHO HAS GOTTEN THEIR LEGAL DOCUMENT BECAUSE OF PREGNANCY, THEREFORE IF WE WANT PEOPLE TO TREAT US AS HUMAN BEINGS, AND NOT AS A NATIONALITY OF A ANOTHER COUNTRY..WE SHOULD ALLOW OTHERS TO GAIN THEIR RIGHTS AS WELL IN D/CA. IMAGINE ALL WORLD WILD ILLEGALS WERE DEPORTED BACK TO THEIR SAID COUNTRY!!!WOULDN’T THAT BE A CATASTROPHE FOR ALL..

    I KNOW PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE USA FOR OVER 20 YEARS WITHOUT THE NECESSARY DUC..AND MIND YOU THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKES THE MOST NOISE……

    AND DOMINICAN HAS THE DIRTY HABIT OF ASKING YOU…..THIS FOOLISH QUESTION WHEN EVER YOU GO TO D/CA..(WHEN YOU GOING BACK NA?)…HOPING YOU CAN’T, I WAS ASK THE SAME QUESTION IN 2004…..THEN ALL I SAID WAS WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT, AND LEFT THE NEXT DAY…I WENT HOME AFTER THAT AND THE FOOL JUST LOOKED ME IN THE FACE…

    WE SHOULD ALLOW OTHERS TO A CHANCE…..

    FOR GOD IS STILL GOD……

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 22, 2011

      @ Anonymous

      Today, the U.S. government is clamping down on them. Know the situation and the conditions on which people procure landed status.
      The Dominican immigration as another government has a right as any other country to ask questions, to allow those who are legitimate and to disallow those who are illegitimate.
      Do some of you, as you, ever utilize your common sense and what God thinks and wants for us? We are not God. Therefore, do not play God. We have His Ten Commandments and the teaching of the Church according to His Ten Commandments. Keep this in mind.
      I am one who brings God into everything I do and say and to advise others accordingly, thanks be to God. I always say, “Not my will but Thine be done O Lord.”
      God is a God of love and truth – honesty. No matter what, He will not condone those who lie, cheat and steal to get their way around and to procure landed status and citizenship, to have babies and illegitimate ones at that, out of wedlock – fornicate – in order to have a baby and to obtain legal landing status. It is dishonesty and illegal to do so.
      I reiterate that the government/immigration should investigate this woman and further, if they have not done yet done so.
      You are a Dominican, hopefully a resident one. This is one valid issue that you should take up with it.
      If she is proved to be other than what she projected, she should be promptly deported without much ado and fanfare.
      Unlike Dominica, Mexico is a big country. It can accommodate her and her baby.
      Let us not condone and allow people to use our beautiful island of Dominica, its shores and its people.
      I do think the authorities who gave her landed status were naive. They are in dire need of immigration training and other based on their position.

      • Anonymous
        July 24, 2011

        [email protected] T-JUSTICE..YOUR MOUTH SEEM TO BE IN PRISON…SET IT FREE….AND REMEMBER THERE IS ALSO A PRISON FOR BLASPHEMERS…YOU STATES THAT YOU BELIEVE IN GOD, BUT YET YOU HATE HIS PEOPLE..(WHAT IF GOD ANSWERED HER PRAYER) ARE YOU AWARE THAT HE ALSO CATERS TO SAINTS AND SINNERS?

        OUR CONSCIENCE IS TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS GOD HAS LOVED US…

        GUESS SHE HAD THE POWER TO CONVINCE THE JUDGE, WHO KNOWS MAYBE HER FAITH IS STRONGER THAN YOUR HATE….REMEMBER WITH PRAYERS WE CAN MOVE MOUNTAINS…

        YOU SEEM TO BE TAKING THAT FROM ONE LEVEL TO THE NEXT…..AND YOU SEEM CONFUSED….DON’T THINK THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A MOUTH YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU FEEL LIKE….

        REMEMBER WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND..AND THE INNOCENT CAN FACE THE DEATH PENALTY…JESUS WAS ONE WHO WAS CONDEMN BY MAN…..

    • Lolazit
      July 22, 2011

      What is so dirty about asking you when you going back? What else the person going to ask you? Stupes

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 22, 2011

      @ Anonymous

      They are illegal but they cannot leave those countries to visit their homeland. Think about it. They are like prisoners and sadly so. It is nothing to be proud of and shout about.
      If they get sick and need medical care, the government will find out.
      If they die in those countries the government will bury them at taxpayers expense. This will be the end of them.

      • Anonymous
        July 24, 2011

        BUT THAT’S A WORLD WIDE ISSUE…….NOTHING NEW..

      • Anonymous
        July 24, 2011

        BUT THAT IS A KNOW FACT…NOTHING NEW..

  67. Faith Dawn
    July 22, 2011

    our law is our law when there come in our country there should live with it ok look at ANTIGUA and there law

  68. seasoning pepper
    July 22, 2011

    in othere countries they sending you back with your child . Domonica everyone enter, its a free port!!!!

    • Portsmouth I from
      July 25, 2011

      Domonica SOT

  69. only
    July 22, 2011

    Did you get that……the govt. owns your children, not you who give birth or father.
    The mexicans do the same thing in the U.S., get preg then go have the child in the U.S.
    There rational is that if they have a child there, the govt. won’t separate the mother from the child and will let both stay. Then comes the welfare part at the expense of the taxpayers.

  70. Birdy 1964
    July 22, 2011

    Respect the rules. You must remember domincans goes in people county, leave illegal for years, committ crimes, the younger ones don’t love to work, they come in st. maarten and thief. They are hard working one, some are confusion, two faces, maybe is thier culture. listen, they make history in sxm. first seral killes in history, in St. maarten are three Dominicans, they planning to put visa on the dutch side for Dominicans c/w. They put same on the up scale ones, who work had for that country, and made their self respectfull citizens. a coin have two sides. do unto other, what you wouldn’t want them to do to you. how she reach in dominica, so sad.

  71. Mariachi
    July 22, 2011

    I’m sure all the people saying no to the Mexican lady have family members somewhere in another country that is currently an illegal immigrant.
    I was in Mexico 3 weeks ago and I am a bit baffled that someone would leave Mexico and come to Dominica. If it’s love then I understand.

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 22, 2011

      @ Mariachi

      You are another one who go about generalizing people, placing them in one boat and situation.
      You are also deviating from the situation as presented.
      I once migrated to Canada, legally. I have relatives in Canada. Not one of them came here illegally and are residing illegally.
      I have friends here and not one of them are illegal. I know of no one who resides here illegally, thanks be to God.
      We are all naturalized Canadian citizens but we have not given up our love for Dominica and West Indian roots. Can anyone take that away from us?
      Therefore, watch your words and comment when you generalize. Put on your thinking cap.
      I am not here to speak for and on behalf of anyone who is illegal in those countries and in Dominica. I also do not blame them.
      Those who are illegal cannot be happy. They will always have to consider if they will be caught. Can they sleep properly at night?
      The issue here is what this article is all about and nothing else. Stick to the issue.
      In any case, is this your name or a false name? It does not sound like a Dominican name. Who are you?

  72. Angel
    July 22, 2011

    This is ridiculous,our country feels like a free port for these foreigners, who already think nothing of Dominicans, and now we cannot even enforce our laws. We keep having pity on them when they overstay and we are not given any consideration, when its our ass that overstayed in their country. :twisted:

  73. Truth,Justice,Peace
    July 22, 2011

    A Mexican woman overstays her visit, has a baby and she is immediately granted a stay without investigating this woman’s background? This means that she is landed and will not be deported, all because of having the baby.
    Immigration or shall I say, the government and relevant officials/representatives and the Dominica lawyer who represented her, took this matter too lightly.
    I will state that they are extremely generous and compassionate or appear to be.
    The U.S. and Canada of all would not immediately give her a landed stay. Those governments have enough problems with illegal aliens who also come to these countries, “have babies”, for the sole purpose of obtaining a landed stay. Take note!
    Those governments are aware of the tactics which they use to gain landed status and other governnment financial benefits including medical care. They can prove to be a financial burden on the government and on taxpayers.
    She would still have to go through an immigration and investigation process prior to being granted a stay while still being considered an illegal alien.
    Giving her a stay or a landed resident status would not happen so quickly; not immediately.
    Government/Immigration/Judge/Lawyer, you made a grave mistake.
    People cannot just come to Dominica, overstay their visit, have a baby and then be given a landed stay in a wink of an eye. Do you know this woman and her background? Your justice system needs to be revamped.
    I would think that the charge of $1,000 is for Court costs.
    Setting the baby aside, what else was she charged for, for one who overstayed her visit. Nothing?
    The fact that she is not a Dominican citizen and overstayed her visit, she should still be considered an illegal immigrant – an alien while the Dominican Government/ Immigration investigate her.
    Know, too, that she did not apply for landed status or did she? Therefore, could she be granted a landed stay without due process?
    She did not hesitate and was brazen enough to go to the Passport Office to get a Passport for her new-born child.
    Can you not see what she was up to? Can you not read between the lines of her action? This sounds fishy to me. I am suspicious of this woman.
    To appease Dominican nationals, this government should do more than give her a landed stay. She should be investigated, prior to giving her a landed stay.
    I suggest that the Dominican government/ Immigration contact in whatever manner, such as in writing, if making phone calls will be too expensive, you could send an email to the proper authorities, the Mexican government including the U.S., Canada, also the European government. Could she be a murderer or other criminal and running away from the Law of her land or elsewhere?
    You have not investigated this woman and you are giving her a landed stay? Your system is indeed lax! Something is wrong with it. I bet Dominican nationals will have a lot to say about this one.
    I urge you not to blame the Prime Minister as you have been doing. He may not have been consulted on this matter.
    Blame the Immigration Minister and the immigration process, including the Judge, Magistrate and her Lawyer whoever are (were) involved in this case, selling Dominica to whoever may visit, have a baby and grant them legal resident status and a Dominican passport at that. I reiterate without first investigating her and going through the immigration process as anyone else who wishes to stay and/or to migrate to Dominica.

    • Gwa lolo
      July 22, 2011

      Didn’t you overstay your visit in Canada?

      • Truth,Justice,Peace
        July 22, 2011

        @ Gwa Iolo

        People like you are so stupid and do not utilize your basic common sense as you generalize, judge others and place all of them in one basket. Many of you make statements, demeaning and insulting ones without thinking :twisted: :mrgreen: You do not act as godly people but as pagans who do not know God and who do not perform acts of love. Otherwise you would not make such nonsensical comments.
        Are you not aware that people are not of one heart and mind, etc.?
        In any case, your name appears to be African or other or something else. I do hope that you are a Dominican national. If you are why did you change your name and no doubt your religion?
        Surely, if you possess basic common sense you should know that many migrated to other countries legally and prior to leaving their countries they were already accepted by the Canadian government/immigration and to other countries?
        I have a legal passport and can travel anywhere in the world whenever I so wish. I am proud of this.
        I am proud to say that as soon as I arrived in Canada I got my landed slip which I still have in my possession.
        I reside in Canada. I am a law-abiding citizen and thanks be to my religious parents who nurtured me appropriately and their godly influence by words and example.
        Yes! Primarily thanks to the Divine assistance, protection and mercy of God I have never got myself into trouble with the Law. I do not know anyone who has or is in trouble with the Law. Should I meet any such person, I will run a mile a minute for bad company corrupts and get others into trouble.
        I live a godly decent life. I fear nothing as I always ask God for His Divine protection and as I practice the faith.
        Praise be to God the Father, God The Son and God The Holy Spirit.
        This is what I have to inform you “Gwa Lolo” and some others who are especially radical and who do not live by the Law:
        Live by the Law. Practice your faith. Assist your country and others along the way in a loving, caring, generous, cheerful and peaceful manner and you will live a happy and peaceful life and eventually obtain eternal salvation. May God assist you accordingly.
        As Holy Scriptures: “Every good and perfect gift comes from the Father of Lights – Our Almighty Father.”
        Learn from this; learn the good things and ways from others.

  74. lynzy
    July 22, 2011

    people are not pursuid for being illegal, there are so many i know

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 22, 2011

      @ lynzy

      They may not be “pursued” but they stand a good chance of being caught. The government has its ways and means of catching them in time. Even people they know could squeal on them.
      I would not want to be in their shoes.

  75. July 22, 2011

    Is this news?we should welcome people until we reach half a million..leave the people in peace.Dominicans running let the poor folks live Damit..

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 22, 2011

      @ Salop

      I do think you should change this name. It depicts who and what you are. We are also judged by our names, just as what comes out of our mouths, through our fingers on our computer keyboard, our comments and our lifestyle.
      If you are patriotic to your country you would not make such a statement. First of all, many of you complain about the government’s manner of utilizing money and also about employment.
      IN THIS CASE, USE YOUR BASIC COMMON SENSE, IF YOU HAVE ANY! THINK BEFORE YOU COMMENT.
      Those who are sensible will know that she should not have been immediately be granted a stay; not so quickly.
      As a Dominican who loves your country, are you not supposed to be a Dominican builder and not a destroyer? Do you want to see Dominica go down further in the dumps? Do you want to see an influx of non-Dominican residents, an overload, who use it for their own purpose, means and ends?
      If they are granted landed status, then they will become a citizen, given a Dominican passport and can travel to any country. Then, they will bring in their family and friends who may be of questionable character. Have you ever thought of that?

      • July 22, 2011

        I got sense which is not common in people like you.everybody in Dominica got a family member living illegal somewhere around the the world.An empty Country cannot be beautiful.leave the poor woman alone.She is part of the Carib family you people commenting wanna get rid of.

      • Anonymous
        July 25, 2011

        @ truth_justice….you seem to be a very angry human being….and taking this DNO shit a little too personal….relax… let God take care of his children he can do this all by himself…

        Some wrong must have been done to you, which makes you very bitter, you gonna get a heart attack, or suffer a nervous breakdown…common man….you need anger management treatment…or better do some yoga exercises..walk away from this computer for a while take a deep breath…

        we all know who you are, even if you changed you user name..stop hating..

    • Skye
      July 22, 2011

      It is said the turn over ratio in Dominica is none. existence, one of the reasons every basic thing is so expensive .(mathematically they are saying there is not enough persons buying and selling )
      I would like us to make reasonable, rational and balanced comments.I understand we are upset and all but please remember everything don’t get printed.
      I am a product of an undocumented precious lady and how she was treated, the fear and embarrassment she faced I will not wish on anyone. I made it my top priority to go into immigration law among others. (There are a number of Dominicans in practice also )I want to urge everyone to please treat persons as you would want to be treated.
      There are circumstances that cause people to do what they do and in Dominica’s case I am very surprised to see all the vileness because you are spoken about very highly for being gracious souls.

  76. kb lyric
    July 22, 2011

    Dominica “the free port/the real land of the free”…smh

  77. joe
    July 22, 2011

    in fifteen months she have a baby already ,give her another fifteen months and she will have another one

    • preggers
      July 22, 2011

      But I fail to see your reasoning. How many months does it take to have a baby? And how long does it take for a baby to be conceived? Dominicans are all over the world breaking the rules too!!! Give the lady a BREAK!!!!! She had a Dominican citizen, and that you cannot deny!!!!!!!

      • Roz
        July 22, 2011

        So now we are advocates for breaking the rules because “dominicans everywhere are doing it”…so we come? The line between right and wrong has not only be blurred, but it is slowly being erased. Good luck with that my people

      • Truth,Justice,Peace
        July 22, 2011

        @ preggers

        What sense do some of you possess? It is a matter of breaking the rules and also residing in Dominica illegally. Anyone who is found to be illegal should be prosecuted. This is the Law of every country.
        Worst yet, they should not be immediately granted a landed status since they did not apply for it and the due immigration process was not followed.
        There is someone who calls herself “Salop” on this Website and sadly so who stated that this woman is part of the Carib family. Such utter nonsense. Some people need to learn basic common sense.
        Since when are Mexicans part of the Carib family? She is a Mexican and not a Dominican. She was not born in Dominica. She came to Dominica in the year 2010, only approximately one year and some months ago.
        There are some questions which need to be asked and answered.
        Why did she come to Dominica? Was she invited to Dominica? Who encouraged to come to Dominica and to stay in Dominica?
        What is her purpose of being in Dominica? Why did she overstay her visit and without consulting the Immigration Office?
        She got pregnant and wants a passport for her child. Who and where is the father of the child? Who supports them?
        She does not have Dominican relatives in Dominica. Therefore what nonsense are some of you talking about?
        This is a serious matter. Immigration, whoever was involved in granting her landed status, owes Dominicans an answer. I urge Dominicans to pursue it.
        Where is the opposition in this and what is their opinion? I am awaiting their response and action as well.

    • ......
      July 22, 2011

      then leave them for the state to take care off and strain our already poor social services…..

  78. No freeness
    July 22, 2011

    Such crap!!!!!!! The United States they send the right back. In Anguilla they send them right back!!!! She has set a PRECEDENT! What on earth was she thinking?

  79. ......
    July 22, 2011

    oh PLZ!. she has been here since 2009, was given a 3 mth stay, and she didn’t visit an immigration officer because she was pregnant? thought pregnancy term is 9 mths?

    our laws really slack…that’s why others will keep taking advantage of us….

  80. Jespen
    July 22, 2011

    Good decision Mrs George. I fully agree that based on the fact that the child was born here in our beautiful nature island, that he or she is Dominican and deserves every protection that a state can provide to its citizens. A child belongs to its mother, and in the regard, the state has no other choice but to assist the mother of a citizen of the Commonwealth of Dominica in obtaining the necessary document required to reside and work on the island, as she must provide for her child.

    I am sure that many are going to want to cut my neck for saying so.

    • Roz
      July 22, 2011

      Ebeh weh. Some of us proving we have no idea how this globalization operates. Having a child in a country does not qualify one to reside or work there. So much “pregnancy tourism” the States, Europe and Canada does get. Where you ever hear all those Dominicans that running to states to make baby does get resident stay because of that? Stop being ridiculous. If we start disregarding one law, all the rest of the laws will follow. Soon, everybody will be doing as they please with no regard to the laws of the land. And its apparent that start already. So sad

      • Truth,Justice,Peace
        July 22, 2011

        @ Roz

        I am pleased with your response. You make such good sense. :) People like you are worthy of conversing with.

    • FED UP DOMINICAN
      July 22, 2011

      I am also in agreement with the Judges decision in allowing the mother to stay (obviously for the childs sake).

      To those who commented on the fact that she’s Mexican and worry because of the drugs situation in Mexico, lets hope that she has been asked to provide a police check (from Mexico), as this will show any criminal history.

      After reading the article, nowhere does it state that she is now a citizen of Dominica. My understanding is that she is now a resident of Dominica, only the child is a citizen (you have to obtain residency before they grant you citizenship).

  81. Piper
    July 22, 2011

    So does that set a precedent such that all an illegal imigrant has to do is have a baby and they will be allowed to stay in the country?

    The baby is also a Mexican national, why not have them both live in Mexico?

  82. July 22, 2011

    THE CHINESE ARE WORST. BEFORE THE EDGE OF THEIR SHORES TOUCH THE TARMAT AT THE AIRPORT, THEY DROPPING ONE.

    • ANON
      July 22, 2011

      true!!!!! i so want to taste a chinese, i taste a while but never a chinoir….i doe mind going mixbreed nuh

  83. I'mWondering
    July 22, 2011

    “…it will not be fair for me to separate you from the baby…”

    Well, she could have been sent back with the baby. The baby is Dominican and will always be welcomed in Dominica, but just as we in “foreign” had to go through a process to get our Papers…she should damn well have to do the same.

    If I had no papers and was picked up by immigration – you think the immigration wont deport me? Think again.

    The court right now is acting in the role of immigration department – thus the courts must have steps in place for situations like those.

    I do hope that she was ordered to go through a process to determine eligibility for status, then if she meets those requirements, she’d be allowed to stay…just saying that it’s unfair to her child is not reason enough!

  84. Jah Guide
    July 22, 2011

    Cant understand that aspect of the law to well. Am I to understand that its ok for all illegal imigrants to make babies and all will be well. No wonder the Haitians making babies like that. (wow)

  85. hey
    July 22, 2011

    is that an indefinite stay or just a stay up until the time she is better able to travel with the child? just asking

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 22, 2011

      @ hey

      Read carefully what was stated. It appears that she is granted a stay and will be in Dominica forever.
      This makes me seething mad that she was not investigated prior to being granted landed status and for the sake of having a baby. Mexico is a bigger and richer country than Dominica and has warm weather as Dominica. Why would she choose Dominica? It is questionable. This woman’s background needs to be investigated. This is where you voters come in.

  86. Dominican for sure
    July 22, 2011

    ….so easily…i wld grant her a certain length of time to stay on island, but she wld be surely deported after. I dont think any Dominican would get a lucky break like that…

    • Truth,Justice,Peace
      July 22, 2011

      @ Dominican for sure

      Yes, she could have been granted a few more months but in the meantime Immigration should investigate her. This is something that Dominican nationals should pursue.
      She should have been charged for overstaying her visit.
      If she had done that in Canada, U.S. and Europe, she would have been arrested and jailed for sometime, if not immediately deported. She would have to give a good reason why she visited there and why she overstayed her visit. A full investigation would be conducted as to her legibility for landed status.
      I never thought that those Dominican officials were so stupid. Is that the type of Law Dominican has. Dominicans it is time for action, in that, contact and write your government about this stupidity of lack of immigration process.
      Did someone pay them; bribe them to give her landed status?
      I emphasize that this woman should be investigated. May those investigators perform their jobs efficiently and be honest.
      When I think of something and say something, there could be some truth in the matter.

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