Dominica’s top cop says the police force is prepared to deal with the influx of criminal deportees to the island.
According to recent reports 88,000 criminal immigrants have already been deported back to Latin America and the Caribbean in the past six months with Dominica receiving a little above ten for 2011.
Police Chief Cyril Carrette says there is nothing that can be done to prevent these deportees from returning home.
“We would not like to have persons deported back to Dominica after having committed criminal acts in other countries but we do not have a choice. If they arrive in Dominica and they commit offenses here, we will deal with them according to the laws of the country,” he said.
Carrette says the police are aware of every criminal deportee to the island and all are being monitored.
Sometimes it is so frustrating reading some of thest comments. It appears that people are stating since there is corruption in Dominca, nothing should be done to monitor the deportees in Dominica. People there is corruption in every singe country in the world, not only in Dominica. I do not in any way condone this, but please let’s not pretend that this type of behaviour exist only in Dominica.
If someone such as Mr. Carrette does not address this issue who is going to?
And to those who comment on the type of English we speak/write, I share your sentiments. It is getting worse and worse and when you try to correct the bloggers, they respond with the word which I hate the most “stupes or chupes” Helpless!
You are so correct and have said it all!
I HAVE OFTEN QUESTION THE REASON WHY DOMINICANS HAS SUDDENLY DROPPED THE WORD PEOPLE AND REPLACE IT WITH THE WORD PERSONS. TO THE EDUCATORS OF THE ISLAND. THE WORD PEOPLE IS IN REFERENCE TO MANY INDIVIDUALS OR MORE THAN ONE PERSON, WHEREAS THE WORD PERSON IS IN REFERENCE TO ONE INDIVIDUAL. FROM THE PM TO HIS CABINET MEMBERS, LAW ENFORCERS, LAWYERS, JUDGES AND DOWN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, I SAY TO YOU ALL THAT THE WORD PERSONS IS BEING USED ALL TOO MANY TIME IN THE WRONG CONTEXT AND THAT IT IS ONLY BEING USED ON THE ISLAND OF DOMINICA AND NO WHERE ELSE. DO YOU KNOW THAT WHEN OUR PEOPLE MIGRATE TO OTHER COUNTRIES, PEOPLE LOOK AT THEM FUNNY SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY TALK? FOR THEY REPEAT THE WORDS THAT THE DOMINICAN EDUCATORS TAUGHT THEM TO USE WHICH IS WRONG. SO PLEASE EDUCATE OUR YOUNG ONES PROPERLY FOR THEY ARE THE FUTURE OF THAT COUNTRY.
Ok, I good with ni persons ni people eh….oops, stupes man, bad English again!!!.. I sorry eh papa..wayyy look I doing it again.
actually persons can be used as the plural of person.. there are plenty of reasons to criticize the police and PM but this isnt one of those occasions.
There is confusion about the best way to describe more than one person. It often feels better to speak of “three people” rather than “three persons”, but this suggests that people is the plural of person.
The words people and person derive from different Latin roots, the former from populum, referring to the people in the sense of the populace, the latter from persona, “an actor’s mask; a character in a play” and which in the English form person came to refer to an individual human being. (It was first brought in via French in the form parson, which for some unexplained reason soon took on the separate and specific sense in which we still use it, so that the word had to be re-borrowed with a new spelling. And persona itself was borrowed in that form by Jungian psychologists early this century to identify the personality a person presents to the world.)
The normal plural of person was persons, as in “two persons were present”. However, there is evidence from Chaucer onwards that some writers chose to use people as a plural for person, not only in the generalised sense of “an uncountable or indistinct mass of individuals” but also in specific countable cases (Chaucer wrote of “a thousand people”). This began to be questioned in Victorian times, and the pseudo-rule grew up that the plural of person is persons when a specific, countable number of individuals is meant, but that people should be used when the number is large or indefinite.
Modern style guides disagree, being able to quote many examples of the use of people as the plural of person in both situations, for example in sentences like “the plane crash killed 370 people”, and “Many people visit the park every day”. Though persons survives, it does so largely in formal or legal contexts (“Killed by person or persons unknown”, “This taxi is licensed to hold four persons”) and often seems awkward and old-fashioned. Where it survives it emphasises that each member of a group is being considered as an individual: “The nearest persons they can vent their feelings on are the ball boys and girls”, “Eight persons shared a single room”. From the evidence, it seems that the trend towards using people instead of persons is accelerating and that it may not be so long before persons vanishes from the language except in certain set phrases.
The reverse process seems to be happening with people. Though in origin it is a singular collective noun, it has almost from the earliest times been treated as a plural term for people at large (which has no doubt aided its acceptance as the plural form of person). This has now become so commonplace, as in usages like “People are always looking for a bargain” or “The people are being asked to vote in a referendum”, that now the singular form of people seems even stranger than the plural form of person: “This people is angry”, “That Aboriginal people has died out”.
The plural form peoples logically refers to more than one community or nation, although down the centuries some writers have been chary of it, and in the nineteenth century one described its use as “uncouth”. These days it is the accepted form in contexts like “His authority shaped diverse peoples into common views and allegiances” or “Magnified traditions especially bolster peoples embittered by subjugation or newly come to nationhood”.
GO and GET YOURSELF LEGALLY APPOINTED THEN COME BACK AND TALK
Just let dem fellas smoke some Marijuana, that will surely calm them down. Only arrest them if they mix it with high leaf, the tobacco is what clouds their mind from thinking .
Carrette; of all the criminal elements schedule to be deported back to Dominica amounts to ten (10), and ten only!
So, how prepared you have to be to deal with ten people who may not even be harden criminals?
Of the ten, I am sure that they might be people picked up on minor offenses, who may be undocumented, and as a result, after they serve their sentence it is mandatory that the immigration and naturalization services deport them.
Some may already have obtained a Green Card, and may have just committed a strong misdemeanor, which may caused them to be deported.
Number one: if they had already became citizens of the United States, no matter how heinous their crime; if it was something where the death penalty was imposed, they would not be returning to Dominica anyway!
Simply committing a crime in the United States when you are a foreigner who became a citizen does not constitute deportation.
If Dominica police are capable of dealing with all the rapist, murderers, drug dealers, thieves, vagrancy, and every other offender known to man in our country, what warrants your alert to deal with ten additional people?
Carrette, is talking as if well a hole series of criminals, ex-convicts are heading home and he has to do something special to deal with the influx of these criminal!
Well, we knew they were returning before you, and we also knew that it’s only ten of them, so that eighty-eight you put up there is bogus, because almost a thousand criminals are been returned to Mexico, and weeks ago I disseminated that information in a certain forum.
Two goes to Anguilla, ten each to Dominica, and I believe Antigua respectively, between four and eleven goes to St. Kitts The criminal Federal Justice system, is deporting offenders back to every island in the Caribbean, from Jamaica, in the North, to Guyana in the South.
So that’s not news!
Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
you seem to revel in the fact that criminal elements are being sent back to our country. the crime rate increase in St.lucia should serve as a warning as to what can happen when our nationals go to more developed countries and learn the more sophisticated ways of comitting crime. they come back to the small islands and feel that they are invincible. there are those who served their time and came back willingly. Those who could not afford to pay their fare back home were given a free ride out .
In cold Dominica broken English; I must say ” I doh can laugh about dis!”
I mean what sophisticated way there is to commit a crime? If you are going to kill someone, all you need to do is pick up a gun, and shoot your victim, or you take a knife and stab, butcher, them if that’s what you want to do, or perhaps use a cutlass ( machete) to chop their head off.
If you are going to break into a person house, you watch and see when they are not home and you breaking, it you are unlucky and someone in the house you may end up dead, or killing someone. If one is going to steal a car, you have to know something about the ignition, to bridge the wires in order to get the motor started.
When I was a kid in Wesley, there were people there who knew how to do that including yours truly, ( me the Wesley mud boy okay!
These people who left Dominica, and in other people’s country committing crimes, may have done the same at home, therefore taking their habits along with them when they migrated. I have never experienced a crime in any part of the world where I have traveled, that has not occurred in Dominica, and no one crime teaching professor had to visit Dominica, and teach our criminals how to commit those crimes.
Some people are born to be exactly what they are, where it pertains to criminal behavior, and they need no one to teach them how to rob, kill, steal, destroy, and create havoc wherever they go.
Now remember I simply said when I was a kid I how to get a Car, or a truck started without the key, I did not stated that I used that skill to steal anybody’s car, or truck. I got the idea, after viewing at movie, and my curious mind led me to check it out experimented, until I got it. My father had a Triumph, a car he bought from Reginald Amore, that was my experimental piece, okay, so hopefully, I will not hear, Oh, he is a car, and truck thief.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!
Nothing like that!
Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
There is a saying: “Be sure brain is engaged before putting mouth in gear.” This also applies before you put your fingers to the keyboard and send information.
Prior to making such a statement, do some research. What makes you think that they may not be hardened-hard core criminals? Do you know them? Do you know why they were deported?
Do you know the saying: “Who knows what lurks in the heart of man (woman)? You have no idea why they were deported.
Make no excuses for criminals. Whether they committed crimes in Dominica they have migrated to another country for a better life and they should have known better.
A country will deport consistent criminals who are not citizens and who are illegals. Some of them are given many chances to change their ways and refuse to do so. They must have committed many crimes and were imprisoned which is the reason why they were deported. They may also have been illegals in the country and committed crimes. Think about that.
DEAR SIR
” CRIME IS EVERYBODY BUSINESS”
While we have no real control over the manner in which Dominicans behave themselves overseas; I do believe there needs to be greater collaboration between the USA, CANADA, FRENCH, UK ETC authorities in dealing with those CRIMINAL DEPORTEES! THIS IS A SERIOUS NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERN.
Let me recommend that a well thought off strategy needs to be set up in terms of INTELLIGENCE GATHERING & SHARING! There ought to be a policy set up to ensure that a CRIMINAL CV is submitted to our POLICE before these guys are deported. This would include what types of criminal activities they were suspected to be involved in and and they were arrested, charged, convicted for, Also a record of the state where they lived , Where they worked, what skills, training etc they do possess and also a sense as to what potential risk they pose to Dominica and what systems must be used where necessary to monitor their activities.
Hence a DATA BANK MUST BE established so that we as a nation should be better prepared to deal with these individuals. This can also be part of a CARICOM/OECS PROJECT because due to the homeland security measures employed in the USA since 9-11 and other similar legislation in Europe and North America we recognize that the levels , numbers and sophistication of the criminal culture has arisen to deadly proportions and vigilance is needed..
I HOPE AT LEAST ONE POLICE MAN READS THIS OR ONE OF US READERS BRING IT TO THEIR ATTENTION.
like the Police chief said the deportees are being monitored so that is the Data bank for you. Mr Carrette is doing a good job.
Why an open letter with the hope that at least 1 police officer will read it and inform the Commissioner. If you think that this is sound advice, then address the letter directly to the Commissioner of Police. Rather than use the media, we need to address the relevant authorities if we think that our advice is sound. Let’s work together for the good of Dominica.
It is sad and disappointing to hear that some people who migrate to another country would end up associating with bad company to the point of being a menace to society and to imprisoned and then deported. Something is wrong with them, probably their upbringing and their brains. There are many people who migrate to other countries and who are worthwhile, made the most of their time and are law-abiding citizens. Those who have found themselves in trouble have spoiled their lives.
When they return to Dominica it is not enough to monitor them.
We are aware that idleness is the devil’s playground.
When they return they will obviously be bitter and angry. This attitude must be eradicated from their head, mind, heart and brains.
The idea crossed my mind. Arrange a meeting with them for the purpose of rehabilitation and to assist them to obtain jobs.
If jobs are not available have them enrolled in a school and/or a technical one. They must not be allowed to be idle especially during the day. The evenings are bad enough when they will be idle.
The government will have to establish a department to assist them. The social welfare department (whatever you call it) should play an instrumental part in assimilating them in the Dominican society. They could later prove to be an asset to the Dominican society and themselves and not a liability. I am a positive person. It is worth a try. May they be helped when they arrive in Dominica.
that’s a big lie,,,, when man come from n.y n face n.y.p.d or miami dade county police n deal with hardcore haitian gangstar,,,, what hell d.a police,,,, the skills of the trade them man have u all can’t deal with,,, i guess them english dogs u all got will aid in crime solving lol,,, just don’t forget to yank for them
your so lost and talk so much crap.
CHIEF CARRETTE,
YOU STATED THAT THE POLICE WILL BE MONITORING THE INCOMING CRIMINALS. WHO WILL BE MONITORING THE POLICE? AS YOU VERY WELL KNOW THAT THE MAJORITY OF YOUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE CORRUPTED. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT THERE ARE SO MANY CRIMINALS WALKING THE STREETS OF DOMINICA? IT IS BECAUSE OF CORRUPTED LAW ENFORCERS, LAWYERS AND JUDGES IN A SMALL PLACE LIKE DOMINICA WHERE EVERYONE KNOWS THE OTHER. SO PLEASE FIRST ERADICATE CORRUPTION BY STARTING AT THE TOP, FOR THOSE AT THE BOTTOM ARE TAKING ORDERS FROM THE ONES AT THE TOP. (GOOD LUCK)
idiot
Do you know differently, what do you intend to add to the discourse by calling the commentor an idiot? Truth be told, there is s corruption problem in the police department, the drug dealing are getting to the lower paid police with their monitary gifts and every one who lives in Dominica know that to be true… whats wrong with you people? Are you smarter because you can spell the word Idiot… the truth is the truth and even when someone is not totally on point, you still respect their openion, and try to educate them if you can… but then again if all you know is the word idiot….it wont help you, or them
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Cyril stop misleading the news media please.Deportees have been committing crimes in dominca for Awhile mister and u haven’t caught not one.U know u aint monitoring jack.When u start monitoring Deportees u’ll be able to solve a few unsolved murders that has happened right under ur nose Cyril.
if you know something and do not talk then you are equally guilty of murder.
What i know the police know,they were told.It was reported to someone in the highranks.The gentlemans name and what he did and how he did it was reported.
F.Y.I (for ur information).
Another smarty. Do you know where the low life who used to live outside of Dominica and returned to Dominica commiting a rash of Gas Stations Robberies? I will not educate people whose sole purpose is to spread jelousy and hate. We can fell the hatered by reading your comments, man who died and left you a looser? Go check your self.
Grand bay alone has five deportees,,, papa bat
the police officers need to be monitord they are the one encouraging the criminals for thei CUT!!!!!!!!!!!
monitor what and all de criminals that a in jail fleeing right under there nose they cant even control them is deportee they can control.give me a break and find better police 4 the force and whilst at it better prison guards
if they were so smart they would not be caught and thrown in jail unfortunately in the end they`re dumped back to our already stress system but do not worry we have the right police force to deal with them trust me. You people are so quick to jump on your police thank goodness the crap you all post on D.N.O. is recycle and stale hug wash we been dealing with deportees for a very long time and will continue to deal with them for a long time to come Carette or no Carette as comm. of police in the future. As police officers we were trained to take those blows and just smile and move on doing the best job possible, that will not stop. What I hope our law officers do is to compile a list of all those being deported, de brief them in such a manner that when they sneeze we will know where they are at all times also plaster their faces all over the place that where ever they frequent every body will be on the aleart and be aware of their presence. During my stint at the C.I.D it was my job to pick them up from the time they arrive take them to police HQT and record their{ anticedent}
]ie their whole life history ect,ect, Oh by the way make sure that the dogs are present to welcome the deportees and snif them so when they start commiting their crimes and go into hiding the dogs will have the advantage.Bring them down we ready like freedy.
Doctor,
You do not write/sound like a police officer. You sound like someone who wanted to be a police officer but could not pass the necessary exams. If my assessment of you here is wrong, then I am ready to agree with much of the negative press the police has been getting regarding the low standards that are now prevalent within your ranks. In that case, you don’t have the slimmest chance of reducing crimes committed by deportees.
Here is an important stat you might want to consider: Approximately 227 thousand people have been deported from the US this year to date. That is a huge increase over previous years. You can expect Dominica to get its fair share. Are you going to follow all of them everywhere they go?
Trouble Intended I will not give you any satisfaction. Your fake name says it all. Can we all get along?????? I read that crap from you under a different fake name. Which was BRAIN DEAD” IF it was`nt you then I apoligise.
better prisons
To be talking like that ,i infer from ur speech that these deportees must be some sort of high breed genetic mutants that are returning to Dominica and we are ill equip to deal with them because of their sophistication and probably higher level of education and international awareness than you.So therefore you must watch them closely before they Ped-dee you and make you look like a fool. However your job description requires you to look at everyone and deal justly and honestly with the populace and exercise your duty with due diligence without frreteair or favour.The real criminal may be right in your face just as osama was close to a military training school and u may wish to turn a blind eye or as Obama said about Pakistan harbouring criminals and protecting osama.My point is dont watch for some watch for all.The police force needs massive injection of money ,equipment ,and training.THey need to be an independent body without external influence on their operations.They need to be well paid and supported.If these things are not met carrette will be singing for his supper in a diplomatic way ,for the sake of job security.
I would hope that the police in DA would have a list of offenses committed by the people that are returning home that they can at least keep those people in mind when similar crimes occur in DA.
With that been said, I would like to understand the specific actions items Mr Carrette is putting in place to PREVENT crime. I think it is more important to prevent those deportees from committing crimes than to go trying to find them after crimes have been committed. Dealing with them after the law has been broken, is often too late. Someone may have already been killed, injured or hurt in some way. Keep in mind that first and foremost, the police is supposed to protect the public. I want to know what Mr Carrette is doing regarding that.
IT does not work like that, big man. there is some thing we called NEED TO KNOW” AND A NEED NOT TO KNOW” common scense should tell you the police cannot tell of their every move. You all are not thinking before posting. ITs a joke.
Doctor,
I wasn’t asking for the police every move. I was asking for a crime prevention plan. I don’t think that is too much to ask for. If a crime has already taken place and the police is investigating, then common sense will tell you that the police cannot publish their moves; but to tell the public about your plans to protect them should not be a secret. For example, will there be more police foot patrols? Will the police visibly advocate abstinence from drugs by going to the schools and giving lectures? Will the police push for a law that will make drivers use head sets on their cell phones while driving? Those things are not supposed to be secret. They help to reduce crime and promote public safety. I am not interested in their high level undercover investigations etc..etc…
The best way to reduce crime and make the police look good is to educate your people and prevent crime in the first place. Everybody win when you operate like that as opposed to building up your armory with the biggest and best guns.
D.N.O let him know that these things have been happening in our police force for a long time. And ask him where in the World does he resides.
He is designing a new suit made our of iron so that criminals cannot get to them. They aint take your measurement yet?
ok so what they monitoring…. so even though they commit a crime they can’t leave a peaceful life or have privacy. u know how many innocent people are in jail. all u need to mointor d corruption in d country.
with what he monitoring them if is with his B P
no with his birth paper
NA WITH HIS 4 INCH WEAPON
DAT CAH WOK EY DED
What is it with the phrase “ Persons this and persons that”-can’t help it. I visited other islands and I notice the same phrase is used over and over again. Somebody please use another phrase- such as people this or people are not persons are.
The old rule was that the word persons could be used when speaking of a number of people who can be counted and people is used when speaking of a large or uncounted number of individuals. Now the word persons is used willy-nilly.
I am also sick of the Phrase “ And so on and so forth” – a phrase used particularly by the PM may be 4 or 5 times in a presentation.
Thank you! I recently started listening to DBS radio on the internet, and I am shocked to hear this
phrase too. Government officers, educators and all. I have been asking what happened to the
word “people”. It sounds so ridiculous to me. I often wonder if they listen to their presentations before
it is aired or afterwards.
Well too bad, deal with it lol…
You are correct. Person is singular and never was used in the plural form. People are used in the plural form.
We reside in an era that everything seems to be turned upside down. You know, tupsy turvey. Some people do not speak proper English. I do not know where they got this from and where they were educated.
They utilize words which are incorrect and in the wrong context. Some of them are so-called educated people.
Not persons.
Bad behaviour, including the way we speak, is the norm.
What really gets my goat is the number of people in DA using the phrases: “where you at” and “that’s where we at”! smh
yea right!
all know who 4 allu to monitor