Top cop talks tough in death of Picard man

 Carbon said justice will be swift
Carbon said justice will be swift

Police commissioner, Daniel Carbon, has described the death of a Picard man in police custody as a “very serious incident” and “a homicide,” noting that justice will be swift for those who are allegedly involved.

He told state-owned DBS Radio that from the beginning the police have been treating the matter as a homicide.

“This incident where Joshua Etienne was found dead has always been treated as a very serious incident,” he stated. “From the offset of the investigations, we’ve been treating it as a homicide.”

Etienne’s “seemingly lifeless” body was found in his cell at the Portsmouth Police Station, where he was being held at around 5:00 am on August 5, according to the police.

He was pronounced dead by a district medical officer.

He was arrested on August 4, at around 9:30 pm in Glanvillia for the alleged possession of ammunition.

The autopsy on his body was performed on Thursday and according to Carbon the results “confirmed the worst.”

Carbon did not release the results but sources close to the matter told DNO that it revealed several serious injuries including several broken bones and a punctured organ, among others.

DNO understands that at least four police officers, including a female, have been taken into custody in relation to the matter.

Carbon told DBS that “a crime” is now being investigated.

“The crime occurred at the Portsmouth Police Station and I can assure the general public that there is going to be no cover up, the investigation is going to very transparent…” he stated. “The investigation is well advanced and I have no doubt the officers, who the investigations have identified as the perpetrators of this crime, will face justice.”

The commissioner said there is no room in the force for police misconduct.

“When I became chief I told my officers that I have a responsibility to the public,” he stated. “They themselves are responsible to the public. I said I have no room in this force for police misconduct, far more so, extreme violation of human rights. I have been saying that we have to respect the people, the citizens of this country, members of the public and I have said also that the police officers must be conscious of the fact that the people we may have the tendency to abuse, are the very background from which we came.”

He pointed out that the police officers “must be answerable to the alleged homicide that was conducted in the Portsmouth police station.”

“Justice has to be swift,” Carbon said. “What is good for the goose, is good for the gander. I have absolutely no cover up in this matter.”

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129 Comments

  1. concer citizen abroad
    March 23, 2016

    It seems that the murder of my nephew in the village of Capuchin has gone un noticed or even silent by the Police in Portsmouth .The whole village cried out of the name of alleged murderer. The same person went to the station he said to clear his name , he was discharged . Now I know that notorious criminal has his cousin in the police force who serves as an advisor to his criminal families when they commit heinous crimes to go to the station to clear their names. The police should not only depend on a confession. Proper investigative techniques are the key to any successful investigation. I gave the investigating police officer some info. up till now nothing has been done . I know that my nephew was killed by three people who plotted his death, his former girlfriend and her man who paid this notorious criminal to commit the murder. How comes the police investigators who has the law in their hand to question any and every one, cannot solve this murder? Why haven’t the police carry…

  2. ants
    August 10, 2014

    I can personally identify with this level of brutality from the Police fatigued right there at Police head Quarters took 8 Hrs to get me Medical being in a cell can’t move my entire side after i was knocked out and dragged into a cell. to date i can’t get justice Mr Carbon this Man is now dead what about those ALIVE LIKE ME THAT WAS RE ARRESTED WHEN I CAME IN TO MAKE A REPORT AGAINST THE POLICE OFFICERS AND CHARGED FOR BEATING AND RESISTING, TO DATE I KEEP WALKING IN AND OUT OF COURT COVERING UP THERE SHIT HOPING TO DELAY MY JUSTICE BUT I SAY TO YOU ALL “YOU WILL RUN BUT YOU CAN’T GET AWAY” WHERE YOU GANA HIDE??????????????????

  3. patriot
    August 9, 2014

    The actions of a few should not be used to condemn the many.

  4. August 9, 2014

    Mr.Chief of Police u could not have said it better .Don’t let any dirty cop sink your ship u are in command and u should not have any traitors on board. I would also like someone to explain to me what the head of the Police Welfare Association wanted to say to the public. Maybe DNO can try to get him for a further clarification cause i know most people got the wrong message.

  5. ?
    August 9, 2014

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  6. listener
    August 9, 2014

    I applaud you sir this is a very commendable move made by you, large respect to you sir.

  7. Grand Bayrian
    August 9, 2014

    First let me extend my condolence to the family and friends of the young man. I would like to believe the chief of Police, that justice will be swift. I am not convinced that justice will be served.

    The buck does not stop at the police Chief. Our system is corrupt. As a Grand Bayrian, I am very well aware of the police brutalities that took place in the 1980’s in Grand Bay especially during Carnival time. (arresting folks at their home at 4am in the morning) beating them black and blue. accusing the guys of resisting arrest.

    I remember Grand Bayrian parents being so concern, many Grand Bayrians feared what would have happened if someone was killed while in police custody at Grand Bay police station.

    The place would have erupted, and all you would have heard from the people who thinks they know it all, is “Grand Bay again”.

    I look back at it now, and I thought, wow we have been through so much as a community. No justice was served. not one police officer was charged. They were just transferred to another police station.

    • August 28, 2014

      well said Carbon is only for Vielle Case ppl…

  8. Anonymous
    August 9, 2014

    when i read this tears came from my eyes why why people have to treat people like that come on would they like someone to treat thier family like shame shame on those polices officers they think they are bigger the than the law god please give this family the comfort in that sad and unlawful killing of thier loved one

  9. Zuma
    August 9, 2014

    I understand that a lot of you are sad frustrated and angry and want answers quickly. But remember that will take some time and there will be investigations ongoing to get to the end of this and to find out exactly what happened. With proper investigative skills this will be achieved. The 4 police officers in question should be separated immediately to avoid any fabrication of their side. Neighbours should also be questioned. Other inmates who were in the cell if at all and other police officers who were present. Secondly the persons who keep asking for answered to the GON case my question does DA have the proper investigators to handle such situations forensics, blood sampling technicians, body tissue analysis proper labs to deal with such situations etc etc. we need to think intelligently before acting..

  10. Mamizoo
    August 9, 2014

    Daniel Carbon used this opportunity to shwcase hs inexperience. As police commissioner you cannot convict the officers without a court trial and the commissioner did just that.
    It seem to me to me tat Daniel was mor interested in building up hs image rather than being careful and tactful.

  11. Francisco Telemaque
    August 8, 2014

    Talking tough is one thing; however, the actions taken by you Carbon, and the end resolve is what matters. Too often we hear tough talk; nevertheless, in the interim, and after the hype everything usually boils down to zero.

    I wish to draw to your Carbon’s attention that there are many unsolved murders in the country. If such are foreign to you, I invite you to visit the village of Wesley, and talk to the people of the village such as my sister Marie, and give her an account as to why the murder of her son, my nephew has not yet been solved.

    Also talk to the mother of the one who implicated himself in the murder; and took responsibility for the murder of my nephew. Be reminded he was arrested, however, the Dominica police let him go free, stating that he the confessed murderer was incompetent, and did not know what he was talking about, as such they the police set him free. Be reminded top cop: that the man who implicated himself in the murder of my nephew a few days after the police set him free, he also was found murdered with his throat slashed in the same fashion as my murdered nephew.

    More recently, my niece was actually beaten mercilessly by a man from Woodford Hill, she succumb to injuries she sustained as a result of that brutal beating. Her assailant escaped the island to the island of St. Lucia. My question to you is simply this. What efforts, if any have you made to bring this criminal back to Dominica to stand trial for the death of my niece. Let me refresh you mind, she was the one your department refused to speak her name, however your police department did not hesitate to refer to her as “a thirty-five (35) old woman from Wesley.” Her assailant should be arrested and charged with first degree murder, chances are he would be convicted on a lessor count of second degree murder or manslaughter.

    It is alright to sit and talk tough; however, your actions are less than tough. If you wish to be tough, by now somebody should be serving fifty years in jail for the fire bombing and attempted murder of Gong Emanuel in his house more than three years ago. In regards to the unsolved murders in Wesley, if you do not have the resources, such as forensic exports in Dominica capable of resolving these crimes, rather than playing tough, why not seek the help of institutions such as the FBI, and the British Scotland Yard to help resolve theses unsolved murders, and get the murders of the streets of Wesley, and Dominica in general.

    The FBI and Scotland Yard has for decades has helped to resolve unsolved murders on all of the islands of the Caribbean except Dominica. The people of Dominica should be asking why is the government and the police has thus far refused to seek their help.

    While some people may fall for your tough talk, I say to you if you wish to leave a different legacy to your predecessors, I suggest you bring in outside help from the FBI and Scotland Yard to assist you in solving these crimes; and do not forget the woman Claudia from who was also found in the village with a broken neck, the police claim she was drunken and fell. Talk is very cheap , the resolve of the matter is what is important.

    You will not cover up the mess which occurred at the police station in Portsmouth, because it is obvious that the man had no broken bones nor internal injuries prior to his arrest, so his situation is a clan cut case for prosecution, all that is need is to find out which of the rouge police murdered him; there is nothing to investigate in that crime as far as I am concerned!

    Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque

  12. Rabbit
    August 8, 2014

    There has been a culture of police brutality in the CDPF so you Daniel need to stop lying to the people. What you need to do is resign from your position as commissioner since you yes you failed to protect the life of this young man. Hundreds of Dominicans can attest to being arrested & beaten in custody so for you to come wit this foolishness of you told your officers blah blah blah is absolute nonsense. It’s because this man died you are trying to talk nonsense today. What about the people who were beaten last week or last month or even the day prior to the death of this young man? It’s SOP in the CDPF to abuse citizens depending on either the severity of their crime or who they are. The country is a lawless country & all of you can chat all your foolishness but we all know nothing is going to come out of that.

  13. willis dew
    August 8, 2014

    I Just Love That Chief His Are No Face Man Congreats Sir.

  14. Anonymous
    August 8, 2014

    Family of Etienne make sure you all have a copy of the autopsy report. Be very careful that info there changes. No offense to the pathologist, but somethings change overnight. But sir chief of police i applaud you. the officers need to understand innocent until proven guilty. The officers must be tried and face the dance, this is nonesense now. Next set are the customs officers and negligent nurses. On told my family at the hospital he does not have pain. But she lucky he was discharged the same say cause………

  15. WildWood
    August 8, 2014

    Don’t fail the community and the man family mr commissioner.!!!!!

  16. possiethugviews
    August 8, 2014

    Please take note mr.carbon that its a rotten tree not a fruit so u hav to deal with the whole portsmouth policestation.that station needs to be sanitized

  17. Lilian
    August 8, 2014

    No one seems to have asked but am asking, the other individuals who were in the cell at the time when Mr. Joshua Etienne was found will they be served as witnesses to the State and if so will they be in need to protection? Or will the State advise the police men now defendants “do not interfere with the witness” but how certain can the public and these individuals be of their safety?
    Also, in terms of training certain requirements needs to be looked at on becoming an officer, all officers should be trained to perform CPR, can swim and have a valid driver’s license.

  18. Anonymous
    August 8, 2014

    DNO please, Dominica does not have a Commissioner of Police. According to the Constitution the head of the police force is designated as Chief of Police.

  19. Anonymous
    August 8, 2014

    I was very impressed by what the Commissioner said on DBS… now if the PRO could have as calm, confident and reassuring voice as the big man… well…..

    • La Terre
      August 9, 2014

      Everybody CANNOT be the same, or else how would this world be?

  20. Jayson
    August 8, 2014

    You have my full support Mr. Commissioner!

  21. Browne,C (Rastafari)
    August 8, 2014

    Dominicans love emotional speeches – this here is one of them. When justice is served I will then begin to have some trust, faith, reliance, from this police dept. These fools know how to still the voice of the revolutionaries – this here speech is one of them. Until the PoPo can do right by us, we do not trust their words!

    • Ahoy
      August 8, 2014

      My sentiments exactly. He has kept silent on so many crimes, and have been on the back burner. Some bad cops get promotion. Now the above case will be done very speedily! He is trying to make himself look good on this one, but that will not make us forget about all the injustices under his watch.

      • time will tell
        August 21, 2014

        that’s wrong. He has never cover up anything that the police was alleged to be involved in.. he said he don’t like any police. Ask him….His day will come bcuz nothing last forever..

    • Sout Man
      August 9, 2014

      I somewhat felt the same way; having been a victim of police searches and seizure of my camera for filming the cops. Never have I been charged, thank Go.

      But this is unprecedented! The message has been sent to all cops that they are serving the public and that violation of human rights is unacceptable. The swift arrest of the perpetrators is a step in the right direction. Way to go Commissioner! I’m impressed, so far; I must admit.

      “………. the people we may have the tendency to abuse, are the very background from which we came”.

  22. spirit
    August 8, 2014

    I told the people of Portsmouth as long as carbon is chief no stone will be left upturned. this man is a man of principles and moral value and will not allow no one to destroy his reputation as chief. well done and well said Mr. carbon

  23. Calibishi Warrior
    August 8, 2014

    The very name “Dominica Police FORCE” give members of that organisation a license to overstep their powers .. I recommend a change to Dominica Police Service (or Department). Protect and Serve … that is your role.

  24. Anonymous
    August 8, 2014

    Justice must be swifter and in that case much faster!!! lets ponder for a moment…
    1. From the beginning the police have been treating the matter as a homicide.
    2. At least four police officers, including a female, have been taken into custody on Thursday 7 August in relation to the matter.
    3. The autopsy on his body was performed on Thursday 7 August and according to Carbon the results “confirmed the worst.”
    4. In the Commissioner’s interview with state-owned DBS Radio he DECLARED the incident as very serious and a homicide!!
    Before the day’s end we demand a FORMAL CHARGE against the officers of concern. Etienne’s “seemingly lifeless” body was found in his cell at the Portsmouth Police Station, where he was being held at around 5:00 am on TUESDAY August 5 after he was arrested on August 4, at around 9:30 pm in Glanvillia. Today is FRIDAY August 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jejep
      August 8, 2014

      Strupes.

  25. Lord, hear our cry
    August 8, 2014

    Mr. Commissioner, I will ONLY believe your words when you will investigate, arrest, and bring to justice those that plotted, transported, and attempted to fire bomb Mr. and Mrs GON Emmanuel on that very sad Christmas morning. Until such is done your ‘sound good words’ are like the promise of snow in summer.

  26. Lord, hear our cry
    August 8, 2014

    You remember the “No law no constitution…” statement of Mr. Skerrit? I guess words are like seeds that will germinate and eventually bring a harvest. I guess the officers in questions got inspired by the PM and thought they too are above the law. However, as sweet as the words of Mr. Carbon sound, police always defend police and I can already hear them saying the killing was in self defense.

  27. Canefield
    August 8, 2014

    Of course it is sad that Ettienne died and my sympathy goes out to his family.
    But the wheels of justice in Dominica is rolling on its side. Some get it fast , while others get it real slow!
    Isn’t it the same legal system for the whole island? In this regard many crimes have been comitted by party harks and nothing has yet to be done about them, but once it is the other way , we see swift justice.
    The Police should not let politics cloud its mind.

  28. Goodwill
    August 8, 2014

    Since when Carbon is so concerned about swift justice??
    Mr. G. Emmanuel has yet to see any justice for the crimes commted agaist him and his wife!?
    So show us rahter than tell us how serious you are about justice for all, and do this by taking up and reopening the case of Gon Emmanuel.
    My advise to Dominicans is “when your neighbor’s house is on fire , you should wet yours.”
    later will be greater.

    • Yon
      August 8, 2014

      That’s a fact.

    • August 9, 2014

      stop mixing matters. This is serious

  29. Roseau
    August 8, 2014

    The officers were on duty, so it was wrong of Mr. Carbon to come out and throw them to the wolves in the manner which he did.
    There is a code of criminal procedure and in this case the commissioner and his advisors have failed to follow it.
    I hope there was not any political pressure on Carbon to act!!

  30. Mahaut
    August 8, 2014

    First of all Carbon did not go by the “Judges Rules” to proceed in this matter.
    His words and actions preceded any confession by the Police officers in quetion and investigation into the matter.

    The cow does jump the fense where is is lowest. Because the officers are in close proximity it is easy for him to take them in for questioning.
    You also owe a responsibility to the Police Force.

    • Analysis=P/O
      August 9, 2014

      This is a good one sir about the mention of Judges rules in this investigation.due to the thirld work thinking,lack of formal education and how small we are always going to remain how we are.We keep on removing and by passing qualified people for unqualified people.I mean its apsurd in this country.Now,in another allegation lets see whats happens this time in this investigation.according to this report and my analysis sounds like the case has already been tried and the alleged perpartrators convicted and sentenced.
      Since we talking investigations:let me educate the Dominican Public and the Diaspora.
      iNVESTIGATIONS INTO A PARTICALER MATTER SUCH AS THIS INCLUDE ONE.
      1.AUTOPSY REPORT
      2.WITNESS STAEMENTS
      3.PRIMARY AND SECONDARY EVIDENCE WHICH INCLUDES THE ABOVE.
      4.EVIDENCE FROM THE CRIME SCENE
      5.A report from the Police Officer on duty at the time
      6.A report from the OIC of the Police Station.
      7.Reasons why the man was detained.

      All of the above has to be done according to the law of the Commonwealth of Dominica. and using Judges rules.

      However many Police Officers have investigative training but do not implement it when needed.

      Furthermore,from the onset,why would a lifeless body of a male be found dead in a cell in a paramilitary compound,was he sick or beaten?
      I ask why did the chief state it as a homicide?

      NOTE: Before we go further I am a Domincan and I am only expressing simple educative skills attained during school at SMP AND SMA.I have not even applied College thinking to this article yet.Also I have applied some police science methodolgy to this analysis.

      Now,the chief said this is a homicide.
      For this to be treated as a homicide there must be some compelling evidence particulaly from the crime scene,and the autopsy.

      In law Homicide is basically where the death of a person was not voluntary howver if it is involuntary it is termed manslaughter.please note this not a precise definition.

      Mr. Chief please reinstate Police Officers who deserve to serve and can serve.

      Thankyou Dominca for your time.allthough the old people laughing some of us in thier graves we continue to fight and stand for what we believe and I am one of those.

  31. CIA on the Watch
    August 8, 2014

    A commendable action by you sir, I guess you are well aware of the implications in matters such as these, I guess you are well aware as to what happened recently in Jamaica and St. Lucia where seating Police Commissioners were refused VISAS by the US State Department/Homeland Security because of Human rights abuses in their respective countries. Once again Great job, lets see if the PM will take credits for this one too.

    • VILLAGE RAM
      August 8, 2014

      tell the usa hold their backside and they visa, where the most human rights violation takes place, right in the usa, listen the news dumbo

    • Zuma
      August 9, 2014

      CIA watch what does the PM have to do with this. See the facts of the matter don’t look for a scapegoat just because you are a political slave. Get off the politics this is aHomicide where police officers are being investigated stop mixing apples and oranges.

  32. August 8, 2014

    I hope after ii is proven that this was murder the family of Mr Etienne will consider suing the dominica police department for wrongfully murdering there son or brother,and sue the policemen involved for everything they worth,it’s time for Dominicans to start suing. Even the hospital and these nurses. Let them start seeing people life are important and they are no better than them.

    • Zuma
      August 9, 2014

      During…. Have you seen the investigative report?? Secondly the victim was arrested for possession of ammunition. Maybe the officers received resistance and we’re scared. And it could possibly be there was a very. Strong struggle to get the victim to surrender in which he could have sustained grevious bodily harm. Remember we as a Caribbean people are notorious for being highly aggressive and explosive

  33. doh good
    August 8, 2014

    Time will tell!

  34. B Lion
    August 8, 2014

    Mr. Carbon can’t do everyone’s work for them. He can only inspire truth upon them. All must play their part.

  35. Borne
    August 8, 2014

    Well said and see it through.

    Do unto others as you would like them to do unto you. My symthay to the family of the deceased.

  36. Erasmus B. Black
    August 8, 2014

    Dear Mr. Commissioner,

    I can understand you are plenty frustrated and your sense of responsibility to the public is laudable, but I have one question and that is: “Does the buck stop with you?”

    Given that the Dominican public is still awaiting the outcomes of earlier promised “swift investigations” viz: the firebombing of the attorney’s home, the other attorney who promised to hunt down some politicians and give them the Al Queda treatment, the alleged theft by police of money in a locked safe at the airport, just to name a few, how will this case be different?

    Maybe Sir, you have a very selective memory or you are just too young to recall that prior incidents of police killings went beyond the authority of the police chief. If you are not familiar with the political shenanigans in the case of the man allegedly killed by police a few years ago (JRL) and dumped at Rodney’s rock, you may wish to review it ASAP. Meanwhile, one can only hope that the accused officers do not have access or familial ties to any fairy god-fathers or god-mothers with scarlet capes, or wands. In particular Sir, I urge you, please do not underestimate the the power of the fairy godfather with the scarlet cape and magic wand. Some allege that you have already seen how the wand works, but just remember if you don’t play by the rules particularly in this crown retaining season, that same wand that can make people and positions appear, is also proficient enough to cause some to swallow their tongue or to develop acute amnesia,

    Mr. Commissioner, you always look like you are carrying the weight of the force on your shoulders and I feel your pain. Whilst hoping that your responsibility to the public will take precedence, I pray that God will grant you the courage to change the things you can.

    My deepest condolences to the Etienne family and friends.

    Respectfully,

    Erasmus B. Black

  37. DOMINICAN MAN
    August 8, 2014

    Convincing speech but WE ARE ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THE RESULTS Sir.

  38. D/can in SXM
    August 8, 2014

    At the end of the investigation it will be said in bold letters, “HE RESISTED ARREST and attacked a police officer”

  39. ??????????????????
    August 8, 2014

    Mr Carbon, what about the investigation into the fire bombing of GON EMMANUEL ON CHRISTMAS DAY 2010 SIR?.
    When we talk about justice has to be swift, does this mean that it is for a selected few?
    I AWAIT YOUR RESPONSE.

    • goodforyou
      August 9, 2014

      is emanuel the god of d.a

  40. August 8, 2014

    Well said mr carbon….. This or the :-P ses police officers does not just deserves to lose their jobs but jailed murder has been commited

  41. mujahardin
    August 8, 2014

    Carbon sounds like there are usually a number of cover ups with cases under police investigation. Things have gotten so bad in the police force that Carbon is seen as a hero for condemning bad police behavior that he and others have created in the police force. The police force is corrupt, and that corruption starts from the very top. This latest incident is a simple case of the chickens coming home to roose. The chickens have just started to come home.

  42. Precisely
    August 8, 2014

    All leaders should take a page from your book sir.

    • La Terre
      August 9, 2014

      That book should read the same in all cases, not one way for certain crimes, and another way for other crimes. All crimes deserve to be investigated fully, and justice persued just as swiftly. ALL VICTIMS deserve justice at all times.

  43. neutral
    August 8, 2014

    That,s what happens when you do not nip a problem in the bud. It gets out of control. Police misconduct has been happening for far too long, and what happens, cover-up. An officer beat, you react likewise, they charge you with resisting arrest and battery of an officer. The officer(s) who do the beating goes scotfree. Action speaks lowder than words. Commissioner take action and i will believe you.

    • mr p
      August 8, 2014

      Mr carbon it would be intresting to know where this policr officers wil be remanded

  44. Shameless
    August 8, 2014

    Good words Mr. Carbon but be reminded that you are the leader in the force and you will definitely carry some blame here. I love your assurance that justice MUST be swift sir and commend you for the way this investigation is being handled thus far….kuddos!! However sir, I highly recommend the following;

    1. Effective immediately, all senior officers (Supt. through Corporal) stationed at Portsmouth be put on leave until the investigation is completed.
    2. Transfer all other officers assigned to Portsmouth immediately to allow the community some space to heal. The public has no confidence in the rest of the guys

    My eyes are on you and will remain on you and the CDPF leadership until justice is served in the brutal death of Mr. Joshua Etienne …may his soul RIP. No one deserves to die like that.. :cry: :cry: :cry: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

    Assertive, NOT Agressive!

    • August 8, 2014

      I have always been very cynical and untrustworthy of police officers. I have always regarded them as “criminals in uniform”.
      What has happened to this man while in custody which has resulted in his death, unfortunately this is the tip of the iceberg.
      There has been a number of incidents over the years and recently where men has been viciously brutalised by the police while in custody.
      It is a culture that has existed within the police system in Dominica, whereby police officers seem to think that they are above the law and they have the right to appoint themselves as the judge, jury and executioner.
      While I commend the police commisioner’s tough stance and reassurance on this matter, I have no confidence in justice being carried to the perpetrators of this crime.
      You’ve only got to look at past incidents involving victims in police custody; and you will realise that no police officers has been brought to justice for their crimes.
      As usual there will be a convenient cover up, becuase they will come up with a so called justifiable excuse. There has always been one rule for others and a more favourable rule for police officers.
      Let us all wait to see what will be the outcome of this.
      But let me warn you all. DO NOT HOLD YOUR BREATHE.

    • John B. Public
      August 8, 2014

      #shameless. While I applaud your call for the commissioner to ensure that justice is served in this sad and unfortunate situation, do you think that it would be justice to transfer people who are not involved in this matter simply because one of their colleagues has erred? It would certainly not be. Additionally, transferring everyone would certainly bring instability to the area and would not be in the interest of the general public simply because you suggested it. There has to be some overlap of control in order to adequately and effectively police a region. Taking everyone out and replacing them with new personnel just doesn’t cut it.

    • The Facts
      August 8, 2014

      I do think Mr. Carbon is sincere. Keep in mind that the accused and arrested police officers have lawyers who, too frequently put up an aggressive defense for their clients as they say, “He did not waste the Court’s time”, requesting leniency, as if that matters at all in any case. Therefore, if you have to keep your eyes on anyone, keep them including your brains on those lawyers, the Court and the judge/magistrate. Listen extremely carefully to what will transpire when they are in Court and then draw your conclusion, hopefully a fair one. Do not do so prematurely. For now, do not lose sleep over it. Let the Court System handle this and pray that justice in the Court will prevail.

  45. unfortunate
    August 8, 2014

    People, this is still under investigation. Let’s not rejoice at the “mishap” of others. It is an unfortunate situation and we do not have all the answers except for those involved. Given the increase in crime on the island, police officers are at risk every day to protect and serve the community. Of course on every police force you will find rotten ones. That is the case all over the world. I’m sure each of us have good and bad in us. These officers are placed under a great deal of stress and while it is not right still loose their cool. They are human. The problem is not these petty officers, the problem is with leadership. These officers are not properly trained, extensive background checks are not being conducted when recruiting, and for the work they do, they are not being compensated enough. Government don’t want to increase their salaries, yet they are risking their lives trying to fight crime to protect us every day. As a wife of a police officer, I do understand the frustration.

    As I mentioned before, it is a very unfortunate situation that I am sure could have been avoided.

    To the family of the deceased, I sympathize with you all.
    To the families of the officers involved, I will keep in prayer.

    God bless us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • phillip phelp
      August 8, 2014

      well said my dear

    • August 8, 2014

      :-x :-x I do not share this same view “Unfortunate” this is not a matter of unfortunate, heating someone that result in taking the life of the person, does not fit in your description, I think this is a direct act of police brutality and miss-use of power.
      This is not like even breaking an arm or a leg, this is squeezing the very life of an individual to cause pain and panic to other citizens, with no regard to human life, come on man, why don’t we use the right adjectives to describe situation.
      Did you real the police chief’s comment, if you did, you would have posted something more sensible, I am disappointed with your comments here and you to re-track your statements forthwith.

      • unfortunate
        August 8, 2014

        @lawrence ettiene it is. Do you really think it was deliberate? They did not decide they were going to kill to man. Come on. You are entitled to your opinion and so am I. Therefore YES I meant UNFORTUNATE!!!!!!!!!

      • omg
        August 8, 2014

        Mr ettienne, you sounding like judge and jury. Respect people opinion. You cannot tell them what to say. Is their opinion not yours. Have the policemen been charged yet? NO. Is their any mention of them beating the man? NO. Could it have been another or other prisoners? YES. We don’t know the facts, so Dominicans stop being judge and jury like allu say the police doing.

    • Anonymous
      August 8, 2014

      People have rights even after they are arrested. The officers should have let the man have his day in court. #sticktoyourrole #youcannotbecopjudgeandjury

      • Anonymous
        August 9, 2014

        throw out that stupid case criminals doing what the hell they want in Dominica getting bail and out to commit more acts look at Joe Costello the authorities should put together a special task force like PJ did in the 70’s to exterminate all criminal elements. We always talking about human rights for the criminals what about their victims rights as well……..

    • John B. Public
      August 8, 2014

      We have to pray for the family of the deceased and the family of those involved, implicate or accused. May God bless Dominica and open the hearts of the leaders to justice, fairness, compassion and foresight and a togetherness in building a nation of peace and happiness.

  46. natural dominican
    August 8, 2014

    Finally speaking like a commissioner…but we will see if you can walk the walk sir

  47. August 8, 2014

    I truly want to thank Mr. Carbon, the police chief, for the statement in this matter involving the police and the death of our brother, Joshua, while the police PRO is polishing the matter, the chief is stating things as they are, and as a concern citizen from the north, I believe the police officers who are guilty of such an inhumane act, will be brought to justice, and eventually become ordinary citizen themselves and face the full blunt of the law. Policemen are not indispensable, there is this notion, once you are a civilian, that makes you a second class citizen to them, and they can go around brutalizing people, but this time around the order will be changed, they will be brought to justice. Thanks again chief, you are on the right track , and do not fall short of your integrity and standards.

  48. Not at all surprise
    August 8, 2014

    Mr. Commissioner, what an idiotic statement. This clearly shows that you wash your hands as you commonly states.
    you are responsible for the men that you lead. Alas shame on you.

    • hmmm
      August 8, 2014

      He maybe responsible for them as the commisioner and they are police men however he cannot prevent them from misconduct. He can talk he can guide, he can put laws in place for them to behave but at the end of the day, it is the individual police officer who has to be responsible for his own actions not Carbon. Your statement was idiotic, not Carbon. take for example. There are children who were raised and taught through some of the best techniques a parent can use but the parent cannot prevent the child from doing things that are not soo right.

    • itassi4us
      August 8, 2014

      thanks much somebody. Atleast someone is using their head. that man is simply telling and showing his force that he has given up on them whilst he is looking for acceptance and liking from the public. Carbon…….. u will never get that. is that the satisfaction u want to give the Dominican public? smh!!

  49. justice
    August 8, 2014

    justice for ettienne

  50. D/can in SXM
    August 8, 2014

    All that will happen is they will move the officers to new locations as before. Let’s hope the one involved wasn’t moved there because of his same previous actions.

  51. FORKIT
    August 8, 2014

    Mr. commissioner,

    thanks to you for making or showing that the police who took part in this unlawful act be punished like the rest of us, but I would also like to see you act on the G.O.N Emmanuel case and the Tony Astaphans/Skerrit leaking documents in trying and frame an innocent man.
    it would appear that you can only punish the little man if these two cases are not resolved… don’t look like a COMMISSIONER WHO CAN PUNISH SOME AND NOT ALL.

  52. Faithfull
    August 8, 2014

    I believe an Inquiry should be held into the whole police force here. It is high time. There are others to be dealt with also, not necessarily for other crimes but corruption of all forms. From Top to bottom. The government needs to employ a foreign body to have this conducted. I believe we have more garbage inside than outside. It is what is inside that’s being carried abroad. So I move the motion to have an inquiry into the police force. If you second this, ‘like’ this comment.

  53. Truth
    August 8, 2014

    I have absolutely no cover up in this matter
    MR CARBON , ,WHY did you repeat it twice ?
    ARE YOU INDICATING THAT YOU HAVE BEEN COVERING UP IN A LOT OF OTHER MATTERS , SIR,
    AND WHICH ARE THEY?

  54. Patriot
    August 8, 2014

    Heard they arrested a few police . If it means they have to serve time then let be. They are not above the law. Police need to learn a lesson and not act like wollygans. They are there to protect us not to kill us

  55. Anonymous
    August 8, 2014

    Nothing will come out of this. The culprits may he charged to appease public opinion but there will be insufficient evidence and they will be set free.

    No one will be hanged or serve jail time for this crime. Mark my words. Police do not go against police. This is one big brotherhood. Just a fatigue that unfortunately went bad is how they will view this murder.

  56. Peaceful
    August 8, 2014

    actions speak louder than words

  57. Lyndi
    August 8, 2014

    “several serious injuries including several broken bones, a punctured organ, among others.”
    And they did not bring him to the hospital …..They placed him in a cell where he died…This is just not right.

    Even animals show more compassion than this.

  58. Lougaoo Mem
    August 8, 2014

    “Justice will be swift?” Where do I start in terms of justice not being swift, cover-ups, and continued justice delay, in example, “the Gon Emmanuel saga? Who is Mr. Carbon trying to fool?

    Unless he takes action against Anthony Astaphan, Roosevelt Skerrit and all the politicians who are allegedly accused of committing crimes against innocent citizens, we shall continue to deplore his performance as Police commissioner.

    Our beloved island has now become a big joke in the region with the players/politicians on stage. They have no clue that their days in office are numbered. Never in the history of our nation has Dominica been so poorly managed by liars, corrupted politicians, political appointees, bad policing and a majority who’s quick to rubber stamp their leader’s behavior. If they are re-elected, only God knows what the next level will be like.

    Almighty father, we are desperately in need of a divine intervention to bring relief to our nation before it’s too late.

    • BLESSED WATERS
      August 8, 2014

      @Louga-oooooo

      Well diab, we go see, come next elections.

      21 Red!

    • Dori Drigo
      August 9, 2014

      Selective arrest for convenient sake; the results will show if justice will be served or denied for the victim in this case. Like you said my Stalwart citizen warrior, there is selective arrest and no justice in the homeland, this is the workings of a “police State”.

    • goodforyou
      August 9, 2014

      the biggest liars are u all full your self but not me i know how Dominica was before and now all you forget people could not get salary all you will not get that sorry

  59. possievibe
    August 8, 2014

    EXCELLENT COMMISSIONER. Take the lead. Set the pace. Set an example and the force will follow. That’s good leadership

  60. policemen my foot
    August 8, 2014

    Well said sir.

  61. justice
    August 8, 2014

    Juctice for Jushua Etienne…Too much police brutality taking place and something must be done to correct or rather expel all them cops who think they can do what they want. They are there to protect citizens not murder. This is just not called for and furthermore, something seriously MUST be done.

  62. ?????????
    August 8, 2014

    I wish i was jishua family….. i wud become a millionaire….

    • Anonymous
      August 8, 2014

      seriously? the man died and all u concerned about is cashing out from a lawsuit because if his death? how insensitive can u be?

      • The Facts
        August 8, 2014

        I would not put it this way that, ??? stated. However, expect this will happen. The relatives are waiting for the outcome of this case to lodge their suit for a substantial sum of money. This is nothing new and to be expected.

  63. oh my.
    August 8, 2014

    I totally agree but justice should also be swift for Mr GON EMMANUEL and his wife. How long has he been waiting for justice? ah magweysah!!!!!!!

    • Anonymous
      August 8, 2014

      MAN STOP talking about GON EMANUELL. someone has already been charged lets wait for his day in court. u people are now getting on my nerve with that GON thing now.

      • hmm
        August 8, 2014

        who was charged?

      • grell
        August 8, 2014

        Empathy my friend,if Gon was related to you,you would have want justice,every person has a right to voice his or her opinion.That case is all political so let oh my speak his or her mind freely.

      • hmmm!
        August 8, 2014

        @ ANONYMOUS i am sure if this were ur parents u wud be singing a different tune

      • greg
        August 8, 2014

        Justice delayed is justice denied. Injustice somewhere is injustice everywhere. Why are you tired of hearing of the cry of injustice? Is it because you are to darn bias to see the truth. How can you want justic for today and yesterday’s victim and want to forget about yesterday’s victim.Wait till the family and friends of the accusers start talking like you and see how quickly justice for Joshua Ettiene will be in jeopardy.

      • The Facts
        August 8, 2014

        Yes! They keep repeating themselves, over and over again like a broken record, as if they have nothing better to state. This article is totally different and has no bearing on that case. Furthermore, if someone was charged, they should keep it in mind and wait for the case to be heard.

      • August 9, 2014

        as far as i am concern, for you to make a comment like this it is cruel and heartless

    • smh
      August 8, 2014

      stupes

    • goodforyou
      August 9, 2014

      what hell Emmanuel if he was a poor man u would not be talking about that

  64. ?????????
    August 8, 2014

    Lovely words mr carbon… lets hope that the actions taken cab vlback those words

    • .
      August 9, 2014

      if the law cannot make an example of these four then the family should. i would make them walk with their pants down

  65. hmm
    August 8, 2014

    Well said commissioner. This should serve as a lesson for the other police officers. Too many of them think they are above the law and are untouchable. Many of them walk around on the streets with their chest high like you are supposed to fear them. I´m waiting to see the outcome of this case.

  66. shimen macadam
    August 8, 2014

    Mr. Carbon I applaud you on that statement and I just cannot understand why after a person is arrested that the police continue to use excessive force on that person.. this is a very serious matter sir and I agree with you on your statement.. you are a man of integrity and I stand by you 100%. Police officers take heed and know that you are not above the law.. we are the law and all of us should abide by the law.. take heed

  67. Anonymous
    August 8, 2014

    I hope the chief follow up on his promise, proper training is in order, police brutality will not be tolerated , back ground check quarterly in-service training should be constant[ ambush in the nite].

    A Dominican diaspora.

  68. shaka zulu
    August 8, 2014

    Its amazing to see in the past few days both the fire chief and police Chief try to distance themselves from their men.
    Is this commissioner for real. We recently had law suits against the police force for over 500k . We have had theft, robbery, and other unethical behavior by the police. The commissioner needs to understand that it is his responsibility to ensure discipline and every officer should have undergone retraining after the first law suit and some people fired.
    Now we have this situation to try to talk tough and already passing judgment. We all can pass judgment. As commissioner you should know that only court can determine guilt based on evidence.
    Its time for those in charge to own up to their responsibility for the ones they lead.

    • Anonymous
      August 8, 2014

      You need to go check your head before coming here to spurt out such garbage!

      • shaka zulu
        August 9, 2014

        You want to know what I found out. Two of the officers involved were part of two separate lawsuits with a sum of over 500k. The commissioner’s only power is arrest and charge right now. The rest is left to the court. He failed in his power to reign in on the misconduct Let me list: theft within, abuse as he pointed obove, cover up as he pointed above, participating actively in politics, weapons and drug trafficking, political interference……. I will also add there inability to solve complex crimes and successful convictions in court. That is where he should be tough. Justice is left up to courts. We are to quick to say and do things on emotions after the fact and not enough thought. Let’s be tough in action an being proactive.

    • citizen
      August 8, 2014

      You sound like you are part of what is going on for a very long time, Si ye pa ni soutiweh ye pa ni voleure, should you be part of what is going on just remember your time will come too; for there are many ways to skin the cat.

      • shaka zulu
        August 8, 2014

        No I am not part and no I do not condone what happened. Understand what I am saying. There is a systematic problem in the police force. When the folks were sued for abuse a year or two ago they should be fired. Instead, one got promoted to Sargent and we never heard discipline. We are seeing a knee jerk reaction from the commissioner because someone died. What had he done when tax payers had to pay for law suit because of brutality. We never heard anything from him. Now we hear tough talk. Guess what!! It is too late. And guess what the last law suit of 400k will look like a joke.
        Again I hold him responsible for the actions of his men, not meaning that he has committed a crime. If I cannot hold him responsible then that means he has no control and cannot control his men. Yes justice has to be swift and that will be up to the courts when and if the case gets there.

        Hope you understand my point of view

    • Anonymous
      August 8, 2014

      IDIOTIC COMMENT

    • booze
      August 8, 2014

      what you are saying does not make a bit of sence

    • phillip phelp
      August 8, 2014

      this man cannot do the job he has and must… step down from the post

    • tech
      August 8, 2014

      well said!! let the court decide stand by ur men as the sound says.

    • Anonymous
      August 8, 2014

      By his comments, i see nothing here that would suggest that the Commissioner has casted judgement upon anyone. What he has done by his press conference, given the high public interest in the matter is to have given the public an update of the matter, as members of the public has the right to know. He confirms that according to evidence gattered thus far, a homicide did infact occure at apolice station. That all indications are that police officers may be responsible for the death of a prisoner and that as such every lead in that regard is being persued. He further assures the public that the matter will be dealt with in the very same manner as would as would have been the case where a criminal was accused in a serious matterand that charges will be preferred according to the results of completed investigations. He has not predjudiced the case by stating the condition of the crime scene nor has he stated names of suspects.

    • August 8, 2014

      Well said. Like I previously said this is as a result of failed leadership. Obviously there’s no monitoring within the police force.

    • .
      August 9, 2014

      the commissioner is right because is all of you that there abusing alyou power. time someone make an example of people like all you

  69. gladiatorz
    August 8, 2014

    Very good
    I’m surprised 8) 8)

  70. Anonymous
    August 8, 2014

    The police think they are above the law. Now those police involved are now on the wrong side of the law.

  71. SALYBIA
    August 8, 2014

    Commissioner Carbon you are taking the bull by the horn you may not be the most popular commissioner but justice must prevail. The police is there to serve and protect the community not commit homicides they also must remember they are dealing with criminals who have families.

    • longtong
      August 8, 2014

      Who u calling criminals??

  72. Anonymous
    August 8, 2014

    i applaud you sir too many times matters like this are swept under the table and the ones responsible go unpunished. let there be justice .the policemen have to realize that they are there to protect and serve not the other way around.they are not above the law.

  73. PossieIfrom
    August 8, 2014

    Very good Mr. Carbon….if u hold on to these standards….i applaud. This is very sad and justice MUST be served for Joshua. Not because he’s a PARO (our local term)…he’s a citizen of the Commonwealth of Dominica, he is human, he is a brother etc…..no one should be treated in this manner and these police officers must deal with individuals in accordance of the Law. This is not right nor fair! Justice for Joshua!

  74. CYRIL Llongting
    August 8, 2014

    Well done, Mr. Commissioner!

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