Government contemplates bypass in Mahaut and Massacre

Blackmoore

The government says it is still considering a bypass in the communities of Mahaut and Massacre as part of the West Coast Road Rehabilitation Project.

Public Works Minister Rayburn Blackmoore told Kairi’s Heng program that discussions are ongoing to tackle the many complexities involved in relocating families and acquiring the necessary homes and properties to facilitate the road expansion aspect of the $100-million rehabilitation project on the west coast.

According to Blackmoore work is now in progress in finalizing a consulting firm for the designing of the bypass.

“The Prime Minister made it clear from day one that the preferred choices are bypasses. That is why when we entered into the arrangements with the Chinese government, we left Mahaut and Massacre last to allow government time to deal with the matter,” he said.

He said a retaining wall for Coulibistrie is also part of the west coast road rehabilitation project.

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62 Comments

  1. Anonymous
    April 21, 2012

    There is a term call eminite domane, where the government will take your property to build a road and pay you what the property worth to build a road for the better good of the nation.

    So that shuold apply, i know some people had to mve to higher elevation deu to the sea encrocment, back in the 1960.

  2. Youthman
    May 25, 2011

    Lol………Its soooooooooooo funny how we say, “d road full ah set of hole eh, stupesssssss”, ” why they doesnt come and fix the hole nuh,” and den it gets even funnier, when maintenance comes to fix the road, and we blow our blasteddddddd horns at them for blocking the road. We dont even have the courtesy to give a smile to the workers or tell dem keep working hard at the good they r trying to do.
    Government right now is giving out a vast list of developmental plans, and the road project is going along very well. Am from mahaut and indeed the road is very stupidly small. muchless for massacre, its so dumb the trafic congestions tht occur there mainly. As person said home owners should welcome the idea that government is helping them to relocate so that this plan can continue on in achieving its goal

  3. st thomas usvi
    May 15, 2011

    when you take a good look at dominica people are not living in the interior of the island, most people are living on the sea shore line and the coast, i mean based on world events and disasters whould it not be safer to relocate this people to fertile and higher grounds,thus creating space for better coastal roads?and of course encourage backyard gardening.

  4. Just Another Guy On The Street
    May 15, 2011

    Regardless of the countless comment, one question still beckons, did the MOU address/include these issues of bypasses in Mahaut and/or Massacre or not? If it did then this debate should not even be and if it did nit then they should just say so and move forward!

  5. The truth
    May 15, 2011

    Love the idea of a bypass but I really don’t see where the road will be apart from on mountain tops brought massacre and in the sea in mahaut? It could really be that the only sution is an overpass. Just build an overpass. Only problem with that is maintenance. Will Dominica be able to maintain it once the Chinese have left. Oh and, do we have enough fund to do such a project?

    • The truth
      May 15, 2011

      Meant through massacre

  6. outside looking in
    May 14, 2011

    Since they cannot build a bypass, what about an overpass? build a road over the village. we will be flying over head in a car instead of a plane. I see that in the State

  7. reds........
    May 14, 2011

    not a big supporter of the current government however, a desegn and all the fundings etc. can be put in place but there something called eminent domain but there is prcoess that has to be done inorder to be politically correct so as much as the government has been in different issues as late Iwould to think they are trying their autmost to do things so that their would be more illegal trails to follow. so it will take some time to settle that before anything else follows especially if little concern was made of it prior to desidn etc…………….food for thought……….

  8. disappointed dominican lieaving in NY
    May 14, 2011

    It is so sad to see how ignorant most of your guys are in DA. don’t you guys realise that whatever is said on this website is view worldwide?The last time I visited DA, I was so impressed to see the level of development. You may not believe it, but a lot of your guys leave much better than some of us leaving in the United States. It is so heart breaking to read such negative comments and so little appreciation to what you guys have. Politics have taken over the mind set of you all in DA. We have to be more thankful and more appreciative.

    Mahaut and massacre road is a disaster and he it should be abandoned. Frankly thouse leaving close to the sea and very little hope of relocating, getting assistance from the government to relocated should be a God sent. We have have to take our heads out of sand box and look beyond the horizon in order to see whats to come in order to get progress.

    Stop the beckering and open you all minds. Bring in the ideas and work with the government. To many malonnet people bringing down the nation like that. If you have nothing contructive to say, DON’T SAY IT. it is too demeaning. :-?

    • True dominican
      May 15, 2011

      Vey well said.

    • Patience
      May 15, 2011

      well sir in the US, there is need for you back home, just bring your family back to DA to help develope the country, instead of staying in the US seeing ‘misere’

  9. Terrence
    May 14, 2011

    Mahurt and Massacre by–pass is a most however it would been prudent to already solve the right of way issues

  10. Me
    May 13, 2011

    They should just do what they do in the States regarding things like this, and MAKE the people move! Buy out their homes for a SET, LITTLE NEGOTIABLE PRICE, and say “Okay, we’re taking your homes now, here’s your money, find some place else to live. Sorry for any inconvenience. Now bye!”

    Then build the road. Simple as that to me.

    • malaba83
      May 14, 2011

      can’t stop progress…….

    • BABY LOVE
      May 14, 2011

      Why can’t they go through morne georgin instead of displacing people put yourself in their shoes some people have lived around that area for decade, the great great grand parents were born there. NONESENSE!

      • BABY LOVE
        May 14, 2011

        I meant decades and their great great grand parents.

        • Anonymous
          May 14, 2011

          and your point is… change is inevitable.. its basically hindering the growth, and infrustructure development on the island… they got to GO!

        • Me
          May 15, 2011

          So what? So because they’ve been there for forever, they all of a sudden have a right to just stay there? No.

    • Just Another Guy On The Street
      May 15, 2011

      @ Anonymous: Sure they got to GO! Change is inevitable! Did they not think of all these before they started the damn project? This is why there is and will always be these kind of debates because the cart is always before the horse in our planning and designing. Halfway in the project is not the time to be thinking or discussing these important issues. Guess you will pay them or rather make a take it or leave it offer and see what happens? Tell the people take your things and go Zabrico and see if you get a piece of land or Warner! I wonder if they would be willing to pay for the supermarket/residential building on the Mahaut main road? Lets hope it is not another saga like Dr. Moise!
      The fact is regardless of what is said in here, these should have been decided years ago!

      • Anonymous
        May 16, 2011

        well this is why dominica is not moving forward is people like you always objecting instead of helping to move Dominica to the new age

  11. possitive mahaut man
    May 13, 2011

    Mr minister dont worry with all those negeative critics .You can never please everyone,just do the best for Dominica and dominicans .Remember when Christ walked the earth he was criticize so whoyou are for ungreatful people not to criticize. Dominicans are never greatful for anything .So bro be strong and possitive and put God first and he will guide you and the members of parlament.God bless.

    • malaba83
      May 14, 2011

      Amen…….

  12. lol look joke
    May 13, 2011

    allu vex labor doing more for dominica than workers did.. WHO HAD DOMEINICA ON THE WORLD BLACK LIST FOR MORE THAN 4 YEARS?!!!!!!! WHO TOOK DOMINICA OFF THAT LIST?

    DOTISH UWPEEPEE PPL SORT TO SAY DOMINICA NOT PROGRESSING FROM 5-10 YEARS AGO.. THINGS HAPPENING.. PLEASE TELL ME WHAT UWP DID FOR DOMINICA? SHOW ME SOMETHING PLEASE.

    • BABY LOVE
      May 14, 2011

      That should have nothing to do with politics but the well being of the people on the coastal front

  13. Election Coming
    May 13, 2011

    I have first hand information directly within the Comm and works ministry and particular among persons who hold positions as a result of this project.

    I say emphatically that this claim by the Minister it totally untrue.

    The Massacre and Mahaut road will be re-surfaced as it is right now.

    The government claimed to the chinese and certain people that they would have sourced funding to do the by-pass after going against the promise of having these areas “ready” for the chinese to do their work.

    I told you all election is coming.

    Pay close attention to the different pie in the sky announcements like this one.

    All of a sudden they in process of finalizing with a firm?

    Which firm? Name the firm nuh?

    Them fellas too like to lie to Dominicans.

    smh

  14. Anthony Ismael
    May 13, 2011

    While contemplating the bypass, engineers should reduce the gradient on the hill entering the village by about 40% creating an almost flat surface. As the road is constructed now, you’re driving up a hill, then around a narrow corner before you descend down a hill into the village. Not to mention a severe drop on the western side of the road with no barrier whatsoever.

    The Back Road project in the Bath Estate/Goodwill Area is a great example where the gradient was reduced and the road is much wider and now accommodates two lanes of traffic. If ordinary people can think of these changes, why can’t our elected officials?

  15. Magwaysar
    May 13, 2011

    Dominichien………………. Moon Egras!!!! Skerritt will soon leave for the haters. It doh matter wat Labour do, it will NEVER please all you. Mi moon egras!!!

    • Anthony P. Ismael
      May 13, 2011

      These comments are pretty ignorant to say the least! The infrastructural developments that I saw last year while at home were welcomed. However, this does not mean that we should stop there. Mahaut and Massacre are two communities that were poorly designed. This has nothing to do with the current administration.

      If you truly want Dominica to develop both for locals and tourist alike, you can’t seriously believe that the state of a one lane road in these two communities with endless congestion, and the inability of emergency vehicles to move from point A to B is acceptable.

      The problem with some of the commentries on DNO is this; politics is at the heart of it. In this case it’s not. Dominica cannot and will not develop and reach its full potential, unless our infrastructure develops. If you believe that proper relocation of persons in these communities and a proper two-lane road is political,you are sadly mistaken.

      I am fortunate to have seen our neighboring Caribbean sister islands, and we have a long road ahead of us if we truly desire to compete in this global market place.

      • Cerberus
        May 14, 2011

        Anthony is right. There is no room for politics in this. Whichever Govt. is in power at the time would be faced with the same problem. Not only is the road through Massacre, and in particular Mahaut a bottleneck it is a safety- and health hazard to the community and I’m sure a lot of people would be glad to move if offered superior accommodation in a safer location.

  16. Anthony Ismael
    May 13, 2011

    This problem is typical Dominica planning. We need bold thinking Mr. Minister. Warner and Layou has abundant empty land. Please move houses close to the road in these two communities. It is okay to think beyond small mindedness and limited thinking.

    Add roads, water, sewage, telephone, cable, pharmacies and small shops, and people will gladly relocate. We’re behaving like these two communities are made out of diamond. Move them and construct a proper road network leading to the North of the Island please.

    How can we talk about development when the ideas are constantly stale, and devoid of innovation whatsoever!! I have been reading about plans for roads in this area for an entire life time to no avail. Build the darn road and relocate portions of these two communities once and for all!!!!

    • malaba83
      May 14, 2011

      Progress cannot be halted. It people have to move, move them, we cannot allowed these small matters stop the development od our country. Good road is a must for all countries, good roads help opne up communities. Roads must be capable of handle cars and people at the same time.

  17. Ohio
    May 13, 2011

    Past and present gov’ts are to be severely criticised for this mahaut massacre route.when the tourist will start to hit u on the net, is when u will buck up.break down these houses and give us the beautiful seaview

    • boscruk
      May 14, 2011

      I second that!

  18. from colihaut
    May 13, 2011

    many years ago Shillingford who now resides in canada surveyed the road so it would not be so close to the sea .the government at that time rejected it.That was the labor Party with the Prime Minister from Vielle Case.Now they have problem with all the west coast road .One person’s mistake is heart ache for those coming behind.Cabite moe e keta miser pou la poe

  19. tiny
    May 13, 2011

    no bypasss please…………..just get the houses out of there……………….and pleae stop people from building so close to the roads. as far as i’ concerned the bayside and river side should be free of residential homes.

    • lol look joke
      May 13, 2011

      MAKE 3 WISHES AND RU B THE BLUE LAMP

  20. Kazimi
    May 13, 2011

    They should just burn Mahaut, Massacre and St. Joseph. These places are eye sores. This is the only time you will see a negative commet from me. I think the peole in those places do not take pride in where they live. Also, not all I am sure there are many people in those places that do. Everyone does not come from the same egg.

    • I am so ashamed of Kazimi!
      May 13, 2011

      Out of your dirty place. Mahaut and Massacre and St. Joseph has produced some of the top Dominicans today. Do you know who is Dr. Dublin or Dr. Etienne? Not proud of where they live? You are just shaming me as a Dominican. Circumstances beyond their control should not determine that the people are lacking pride in their community. Do your homeowrk. I can tell you, even those that grew up by the bay today, have made something out of themselves when no one expected them to because of their circumstances. I have pride in my community. Both of them, as I have ties in both! It may be an eyesore to you, but for many this is their home and the only place they know. Don’t throw stones on people becuase you probably grow up in St. Aroment or Wallhouse! Could you have asked your neighbors there for a cup of sugar?

      It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt! The current FS guess where she is from, don’t mind where she is living now! Mr. Etienne the painter! and many more who will rise.

      • Kazimi
        May 16, 2011

        I am sure good people have come from those places and I said everyone does not come from the same yoke. I am sure there are many from those places who love their comminity and take pride, but what I am saying is that. The majority of the village looks as if it was left behind and much improvement have not been made.

        We are all Domincans and I love my country and its people. I do not make much negative comment, but no matter how small ones dwelling is they should keep it clean and proper:) Cheers

    • dominican
      May 13, 2011

      RETARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. Anonymous
    May 13, 2011

    Great project, Do people believe that Foregin countries are just sitting with money in their pocket to give it awsay to Dominica to build expensive By passes? Such huge projects require lengthy negotiations and sacrifices of other countries tax payers. Secondly there is a global financial and economic crisis and Dominica does not generate any money of its own to build a sea wall far less a Bypass for both Massacre and Mahaut. So the Government is doing very well under the circumstances.
    Good work Guys, very impressive Government !!!

    • huh( tedash )
      May 13, 2011

      anonymous
      u always miss the f………..king point. A government that can’t fund none of its PSIP is doing good. Don’t worry the aid soon done.

      • Truth, Justice, Love, Peace and Unity
        May 13, 2011

        Watch your language. Can you not comment without utilizing profane language? :twisted:

        • malaba83
          May 14, 2011

          They can’t…………

      • Kazimi
        May 16, 2011

        Why are you wishing for aid to finish are you wishing in the downfall of the country, what is your point?

        I know it will finish even the common fool knows that, but what is your alternative when it runs out?

    • P.A.M
      May 13, 2011

      Anonymous i have a question, whose fault it is that as you so rightfully said that Dominica does not generate any money of its own, don’t you think that this government has been in office long enough to start implementing some income generating schemes ?

    • hmm2
      May 13, 2011

      YEA , A ROAD PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS NOW FOR WHO KNOWS HOW LONG , AND ONLY NOW CONTEMPLATING , BY PASS. AS I SAY BLAK MOORE , BLAK MOORE HAVE YOU ANY FOOLS , YES SIR YES SIR 18 BAGS FULL

  22. Not Any More
    May 13, 2011

    Another lie again. Let me remind all that the Chinese construction company complained about the available alignment for the Mahaut and Massacre area. According to the details the government was suppose to take care of the said area and would have the area ready for the tie in hence the reason why the contractor complained back in August/ September of last year. Blackmore’s response was that “they are working on the By Pass”. The government did admit that, that part of the deal with the Chinese was to have Mahaut and Massacre ready. These politicians really think that every Dominican is Red Memory Challenged .
    Stop bombarding us with your lies Mr Government. We already had enough of Skerrit , Tonny and Carrette lies

  23. ...?
    May 13, 2011

    On the issue i think it is a great move by the government, a ‘Bypass’ is the most appropriate solution for mahaut drive through.

    This Government is very impressive i must say!!!

    • I agree
      May 13, 2011

      Exactly. That is if these people know where Mahaut and Massacre is located. The only option i see there is a bypass, which would need to be reinforced with a massive sea defense wall. The last Bypass in Massacre was destroyed by hurricane. These communities are only separated by a road from the sea, and most people live in the sea. Thats how bad it is. So acquiring these homes and building a bypass is very much welcomed.

  24. Anonymous
    May 13, 2011

    They are still considering? you guys are serious? that’s how you all are running the country. Unbelievable. This cannot be the next level you speak about.

    • P.A.M
      May 13, 2011

      Remember that ,Next is always relative

  25. me
    May 13, 2011

    ad-hoc ad-hoc ad-hoc, you mean the plan had nothing for these two villages? WOW. Sir you are clueless when comes to the ministry you head. lets build a road, ok, lets do it, and that is how everything is done in Dominica.

    • Peeping Tom
      May 13, 2011

      “The Prime Minister made it clear from day one that the preferred choices are bypasses. That is why when we entered into the arrangements with the Chinese government, we left Mahaut and Massacre last to allow government time to deal with the matter,” he said.

      • pork
        May 13, 2011

        That is a lie. The contractor complained when he was ready to incorporate the mahuat package into the design. At the time it meant that the government had not met their part of the deal.

  26. Anonymous
    May 13, 2011

    hmmmmmm. Contracting again, thought the first annoucement after the allied with China was a 4 lane highway ….vroom …vroom

  27. following their masters like poodles
    May 13, 2011

    Mahaut and Massaccre has been like this for years, the government ask China for the money in 2004 we are now in 2011, 7 years later and 11 years into the labour government. They still cannot decide what to do and how to go about it. I guess they went to China with no plans and no cost ideas of the project and now they are stuck wondering what to do. maybe its a project for the next election what a joke!!

    • .
      May 13, 2011

      it has also been that way since 1978 – what are you saying to that

      • following their masters like poodles
        May 13, 2011

        Yes and the way they are going it will be so until 2078 stop playing politics, after 7 years of asking for something you still cannot decide what u want when they giving it to you, and dont find that ridiculous.

  28. pedro
    May 13, 2011

    The government is always moving with mollasses speed at designing and planning projects. These considerations impacting people always appear to be almost after thoughts in the sense they are factored in so late, that invariably there are costs overruns and schedule extensions. Much of these seemingly complicated proposals can start much earlier and should not await a hue and cry to get answers to, or amendments for. Good project concept, but poor PR and poor planning. By the way, can we really say that the project will cost just $100 million and finish in early 2012? Clearly it wil not, if this important aspect is still on the drawing board..Good project idea, but the government needs to get real with the people and be more proactive and realistic.

    • Truth, Justice, Love, Peace and Unity
      May 13, 2011

      Do you have any better ideas, how and when to complete this project? So what if it is still on the drawing board. Is there any rush and urgency to complete it? It will be completed in time.
      Projects cost money and time including discussion on how best to implement them for the good and safety of Dominicans. Consider the other projects which are being performed. You expect everything to be done at the same time and in record time? Some of you lack appreciation and patience.

      • pedro
        May 14, 2011

        You missed the point entirely. This is part of the west coast development that was supposed to finish in early 2012 and at a total cost of 100 million dollars. Well, clearly that is not the case, and the government knows that.

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