“An evil practice” – Astaphan on alleged leaked documents in high-profile case

Astaphan said the police must find those responsible for the alleged leak
Astaphan said the police must find those responsible for the alleged leak

Senior Counsel, Tony Astaphan, has weighed in on the alleged leaking of legal documents in a high-profile case involving men facing allegations of inappropriate behavior with a minor, saying it is an ‘evil practice.’

He underscored the need for the police to uncover and bring to justice the person(s) responsible — regardless of their status.

“And, the police need to find out, not just who got it, but who that person may have given it to, and how did it end up on the internet — whether it involves a lawyer, a civilian, or a politician, I do not know; but something has to be done to stop that sort of evil practice taking place,” Astaphan stated on state-owned DBS Radio.

He said the true crime lays not with unauthorized persons possessing the documents but with posting them on the internet.

Astaphan remarked that such action holds no gain for parties involved in the matter and impedes the administration of justice.

“I think the high moral crime and the high political crime and the high criminal crime that has taken place here to infect the trial, and the due process, and pre-trial prejudice is not the ‘leaking’ or coming into possession of statements, but actually taking the additional step of putting it on the internet,” he noted. “And, whether you keep publishing photographs and statements or whatever have you on the internet by anonymous names, it does nothing for the victim, it does nothing for the due process, it does nothing for the principles of a fair trial. All it does is contaminate the administration of justice for cheap political gains.”

The police have already announced that they have started an investigation into the matter and Astaphan said they must find the source of the documents, and the person(s) to whom the documents were initially released.

“I think the Police need to conduct an investigation about how was it possible for documents to leave the Police Station and end up in the hands of somebody — whoever that individual is, and where did it go from that individual,” he said. “Did it go from that individual to another person, or a lawyer, or a politician, or a friend — any one of these four responsible for publishing the information on the internet…”

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  1. Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
    March 22, 2016

    “Senior Counsel, Tony Astaphan, has weighed in on the alleged leaking of legal documents in a high-profile case involving men facing allegations of inappropriate behavior with a minor, saying it is an ‘evil practice.”

    Tony not many have noticed you said “alleged leaking of legal documents.” In legal terms when the term alleged is used we do that because an allegation doses not imply facts, or the truth!

    It more or less an simple insinuation.

    So, for all we can assume is that there are no leaked legal documents, since it is only an allegation, without proof.

    In my opinion the information came to light by some other source. Allege implies to adduce, or bring forward as a source, or authority ; to assert without proof, or before proving something; to assert to be true or to exists.

    Now kid Francisco (doh is lawyer eh). Nevertheless, in common law that is elementary!

  2. Tjebe Fort
    March 21, 2016

    My grandfather told me not to trust a man that can not look you in the eye and hiding behind dark glasses worse than wearing a veil.

  3. Gwo Jel
    March 21, 2016

    dominica not even a country again. that’s a big hot mess. they should remain this place to “One Big Hot Mess”.

  4. Joan
    March 20, 2016

    you are the last person to talk about leaks.linton should have the police ramsack your house

    • %
      March 20, 2016

      And the police should have done so even without honourable Linton saying anything to them.This was a huge and unprecedented piece of public mischief.

    • Tom Brown
      March 21, 2016

      They should ramsack yours to. Remember police had search Linton home already for same kind ofthing. He is noted for that so joan put in your pipe and smoke it.

  5. pushhhhhhhhhh
    March 20, 2016

    it seems that there are more concerned about the accused than the victims,, wouldnt you want the names out there in the event that there are other victims who could come forward to strengthen the prosecutors case? this seems like some some of sex ring and many are involved..so are you telling me that the prosecution shhould only question the victim? there could be other possible victims and we should all know who these perpetrators are so if there are others they could come forward,,,why keep the names out,,,we need to know all,,In St. Maarten the prosecutor came out publicly to seek persons who might have any info or who may have experienced sexual abuse by a principal..but here we want hide their names stupesssssss expose them self

  6. Man on the Ground
    March 20, 2016

    when evil men talk about evil practises in this blessaid land, then its time to pack my bags on the next available flight out.

    • Gwo Jel
      March 21, 2016

      allu well good there, so long I come out in that place. lol

  7. PoKeSa
    March 20, 2016

    Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!!

    What has gone wrong Tony… no mention of HON LENNOX LINTON in your utterances – interesting and how amazing (as Blessings would say).

    Have you finally run out of ammunition and succumb to his supper power or has he busted your bubble?

    • Face the Facts
      March 20, 2016

      You love to stir up trouble and accuse and then you blame others.

      • Tjebe Fort
        March 21, 2016

        Exactly Facts, For once I agree with you. That is exactly what Tony does.

  8. pydana
    March 19, 2016

    crooked talk. no one in dominica should even bother with you.people dont let him fool you with this talk of concern.

    • Face the Facts
      March 20, 2016

      So in your books he does not have a right to talk? He is an attorney. This is why he commented about this situation. You are not and so you will not comprehend why he stated that.

  9. caca
    March 19, 2016

    However you did not condemn the attack against the 15 year old…. I am not surprise………

    • Face the Facts
      March 20, 2016

      It is not that he would not. You read what he stated. Did you fully comprehend it?
      What attack? Did they willfully drag her and attacked her?
      You must face the facts of this situation, what occurred and how it occurred.
      Teenage girls who are considered minors must be careful where they go and who they associate with. They are old enough to know this. They must stop acting as adults and hang around with their peers; not the company of adult men in private who are not relatives. Otherwise they are looking for trouble. When they get into trouble, they should not blame anyone.
      They know why they went and the repercussion of being in the company of adult men. They did not act as minors.

      • View Expressed
        March 21, 2016

        My God, have you got a Face Sir, do you know the facts and have you got a teenage daughter to spew such ignorance.?
        Why don’t you throw your daughter out to the wolves……shell likely be paid by the Red Clinic.

      • Derek hall
        March 22, 2016

        “Face the Facts” Really? Are you Fu$king stupid!

      • Destined to win
        March 24, 2016

        While i some how agree with you adult men at all levels of society must and should respect minors . They must pay for what they do and should be brought to justice regardlesd of who they are. They must not take advantage of the carelessness and foolishness of underaged and under privileged young people who need guidance and protection.

  10. Gated community FL
    March 19, 2016

    Ever seen the ad on TV for cranberry juices?
    The one where the old man tells his nephew about cranberry being an old medicine used centuries ago?
    The Nephew responded” You would know”
    Same can be applied to AA re: the e-mail leak lol
    The one to do with the commission .
    He would know like the old man to his nephew

  11. Jahchild
    March 19, 2016

    hmmm you have a moral compass now? I am a bit on the fence with this one papa

  12. Faith
    March 19, 2016

    Ass-ta-tan do you really think that we all are Idiots?
    Yes I know that there are many Red ones around but the majority are not!
    Are you not representing one off the accused and trying your best not to have the charges read to him even he is on bail?
    Hahaha that released document Will do you no good eh?
    Were you not the one accusing Lennox of leaking the PM private information?
    Who was the culprit?
    All fingers are pointing to you!
    You are so dumb you remind me of when we deliberately fart I’m class and when it start smelling we were the first to hold our nose and complain of the odour

  13. respect
    March 19, 2016

    seer his face. dog worry with him. all a dem know if is someone with status we’ll know nothing. de dam law dat need tica change we in 2016 not 1900 change de law sim nobody will get away with rape molestation incest save our children. even if they accept it is wrong they are hurting if not now later it will affect them. I always say is when it happen to their children they will change it overnight but is not there children so they don’t care. ……………………… Oh Lord how long

  14. Not A Herd Follower
    March 19, 2016

    Isn’t it the same Anthony Astaphan who leaked the PM’s confidential documents sent to the IPO Commission and tried to make it appear that it was Lennox Linton who leaked the information? Magway sah!

  15. jonathan st jean
    March 19, 2016

    It is gross negligence and mischief for the testimony of a victim to be handled the way this one has been. I agree with Tony that all persons found associated with this dark and evil deed must be punished. However I’m not confident in the Dominica police investigating this matter. They have shown themselves to be incompetent. Who will guard the guards.Recall the hearing for the murder in Portsmouth, when only the female defendant showed up,etc.Since this is a high profile criminal matter, for which it was alleged that financial bribes were being offered,and it had to await Skerritt returning from overseas before the dominoes began to fall,I’m not shocked that the cult of personalities are trying to shield their own.How come things worked smoothly in the past in Dominica, but these days there is just a disrespect for norms and good practices that obtained.The fish spoils from the head down,and from Skerritt on down there is a do your own thing culture nowadays. Things must change

    • ok my boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
      March 20, 2016

      @jonathan..gros negligence on whose part?? hahahah on the part of the public man? u watch too much tv my boy..the public cannot be held accountable for gros negligence it doesnt work so ok

  16. March 19, 2016

    Very timid D.N.O. I do not blame you. All have to eat. Our state of affairs in 2016. Seems we are geting Fartigued by Fear, i can feel it.

  17. March 19, 2016

    It is not only evil practices such as leaking court information that are not good ,encouraging a fellow human being to turn against another human being for financial gain is also evil,look at yourself in the mirror before you say that someone else is ugly because you have spread the most evil vibration in our system or country, I am certain that if a Dominican would go in your country of origine to do the things that you have done there ,because your only goal is to make the maximum money as possible,well they would have made them shut it…

  18. March 19, 2016

    Last person, that should be speaking on leaked documents :-D

  19. Danny
    March 18, 2016

    hy is that guy with zero credibility speaking. What about the alleged set up of Lennox Linton? Please keep quiet. This guy is just so troublesome.

  20. Investigate him, who leak IPO info?
    March 18, 2016

    The police also need to, as a matter of urgency, conduct an investigation into the leaking of information submitted to the IPO. Would Tony Astaphan agree to that?

    Who concocted a story about Lennox Linton leaked information regarding Skerritt’s declaration of his assets to the IPO?

    Who instructed the Police to check Linton’s home re. the lie about leaking Skerritt’s info sent to the IPO? They would certainly have arrested him, then charge him, then court.

    Whom did Linton reveal to the world really leaked Skerritt’s declaration of his assets to the IPO. Wasn’t it revealed that it was Tony Astaphan himself who leaked the info?

    Tony was cornered. He was found lieing Big time. Skerritt, being embarassed, claimed that it was he Skerritt, who gave Tony permission to leak his info.

    It is illegal so to do, according to the IPO rules, to leak any info submitted to the IPO. Astaphan has never refuted Linton’s truthful statement. But NO LAW, no police…

    • Face the Facts
      March 20, 2016

      This is not the issue and the subject matter which some of you love to deviate from. Your comments do not make a difference in this case.

  21. indira Ghandi
    March 18, 2016

    Tony,just shut up.
    You are the chief of evil practice in Dominjca.
    you are respibsible for a lot of the corruption going on in the country.
    You should be t he laxt to open you mouth.

    • Face the Facts
      March 20, 2016

      The real Indira Ghandi would not have stated that. You know she was killed for the truth, just as her father, Mahatma Gandi. Both were intelligent people. He said, “If it were not for Christians, he would be a Christian.” This means the attitude of Christians, one to another as God sees too well.

  22. March 18, 2016

    what high profile case you talking bout sir ; evil practice is to leave the multitude in a state of false beliefs. secret society has the whole world as it is today . stop looking to bounce this around or else fire will burn the likes of you and the others in hign profile places. bitter sweet the truth hurts and it offends but its by no means a sin. say what you must to justify the actions of whom you protect but better days are coming . if you did not noticed even the most powerful world leaders have their fair share of email leaks . the internet is the medium by which we now live . do more than your share not you time . all in the dark shall come to light . fire will burn the wicked be the judge jury and lawyer you are and say who have evil practice and don’t see who is your judge. am so mad with those twisted people . really ?, if the truth has been told and one looses a case hared by man . be strong people you got lose to win again knowing its the truth . sleep on that GOD RULES

  23. Tatiana
    March 18, 2016

    “Regardless of their status.” Laughable. We know what happens with so called status.

    We know definitely that statement would carry more weight for the UWP party and oh how u all are praying is one of them…..

  24. March 18, 2016

    the only justice that hypocrites believe in is perverted justice.

  25. Truthman
    March 18, 2016

    Somebody tell that man to go and pack his self in a corner. You really want me to think u care. That is great news for you all. The case will be dismissed and all politicians walk free. Technicality evidence on internet. By the way why didn’t you come out and condemn the abuse of young girls in society?

  26. Jejep
    March 18, 2016

    I am sure that is was was disguise.

  27. Peter Karam
    March 18, 2016

    Tony if u give me a $100.00 dollars, I will tell u the name of the cyber Café in the Bronx, New York, where it was posted on Commonwealth avenue, ok Bro,,,

    • Face the Facts
      March 20, 2016

      You did some research? How?

  28. %
    March 18, 2016

    Honourable Lennox Linton house was searched in connection to the PM confidential IPO information which was leaked out by someone’…Was there any arrest made in connection to that???So the mischief maker is still outside there walking ,giving instructions and running his huge mouth???

  29. Doc. Love
    March 18, 2016

    Correction, his letter was not sent to the electoral office, it concerned the electoral office.

  30. Doc. Love
    March 18, 2016

    I think the last person in Dominica to talk about leaked documents is Tony. Case in point, the documents concerning Mr. Linton Lennox and Skeritt which were alleged to have been him leaked by him. The D.O.N. Emanuel case, again, it is alleged he had documents that could only have come the police. What about Mr. Linton’s bank statement involving his travels to St. Kitts which was read in detail by the man on a popular radio station. What about Mr. Fontaine’s transactions concerning the DASS affair. In fact them fellers were so precise that even the man’s wife they brought into the leakage. Tony seems to be concerned about this case, I wonder why he never made a force about the leakage of his letter to the electoral office to which he was alleged to have given Skeritt certain instructions.l

    • Doc. Love
      March 18, 2016

      Correction, hIs letter was not sent to the electoral office, it concerned the electoral office.

  31. Give me a break
    March 18, 2016

    Tony get lost, can’t you see no one commented other than me. Your contribution to that issue is stale. No one is interested in anything you have to say. Instead of telling the police how to do their work, why don’t you offer free legal representation for the victim. stupessssssssssssssssssss!!!!!

    Oh i was not interested either, just wanted to remind you.

    • Face the Facts
      March 20, 2016

      You were too quick to make this comment. DNO had not yet moderated the comments. You expect that only one person would be interested in it?
      When I commented it looked as though I was the only one. I was aware that some comments were not yet moderated. You will know this for the future.

  32. Face the Facts
    March 18, 2016

    As I have stated, it may not have come from those people as cited but from those affected by this inappropriate behavior. This is, could be the victim and their family. People talk. Once they talk, others will know and pass it on by word of mouth and over the internet. This is how this information could have been leaked. Why not ask them?

    • FORKIT
      March 21, 2016

      you are an idiot of the first order

  33. John Brown
    March 18, 2016

    is only now u wanna cry foul tony? all the time ya cabal committed their white colour crimes like bin bobol, feitilizer bobol, land transfer tax robbery, who went to jail? did skerrit feel d arm of the law or did collin? crime is crime so all of these needs to be punished

  34. Smell ya l8r
    March 18, 2016

    Ummm……last I checked, anyone can post anything they want on the internet or anywhere else. It’s called Freedom of Speech, and although Dominica may be quite far behind in some of it’s antiquated law, I’m pretty sure Freedom of Speech applies here. LEAKAGE is surely not the crime here. Super Duper DUH!!! Get real, Tony Baloney. Let’s talk about the real crimes occurring here.

  35. dissident
    March 18, 2016

    Tony main concern is who got the info first and where did it go from there.
    What concerns me is the individual who was securing the evidence!
    Where was it and who had access to it?
    How is such material secured?
    Did someone go there and steal it then pass it on?
    Did the person securing the info freely share it with someone who wasn’t supposed to see?

    How did it leave it’s protected space and end up on de world wide web?
    Who was supposed to be securing the info?

  36. Caretaker
    March 18, 2016

    This really need to be look into. We have the technology whether is by phone or letter we need to look into this and sack the informer. Secretary means privacy. This happen in all offices ,people walk in ask for enquiries about other people document and they supply. If the document is not on your name, you must come with written proof. This has got to stop getting information about other people or their property.

  37. Pappy Show
    March 18, 2016

    They know who leak it but they looking for a scapegoat to take the blame

  38. Pappy Show
    March 18, 2016

    They know they plan the leak and they looking for a scape goat to frame… but what is done is already done so they can talk now…

  39. calibishie boy
    March 18, 2016

    What goes around comes around tony

  40. Dr Clayton Shillingford
    March 18, 2016

    Who corrupted the police????

  41. Dr Clayton Shillingford
    March 18, 2016

    Here is your quote, Tony Astaphan
    “All it does is contaminate the administration of justice for cheap political gains.”

    Tony Astaphan..you may wish to consider what part certain persons played in the decay of judicial process in Dominica.. Did you play a part? Have you sought through your public comments cheap political gains??/Now chickens are coming home to roust and the country is every day in the midst of another scandal. Is it too late to return to a path of honesty, honour and decency among the Dominican people??

    • Face the Facts
      March 20, 2016

      As long as there are people there will always be scandals. It is nothing new and to get excited about.
      Those teenagers are themselves scandalous. Their actions for so-called minors create scandals.

    • Face the Facts
      March 20, 2016

      Many people’s lives are a scandal. What else is new?

  42. Extremely
    March 18, 2016


  43. Anti-corruption 1
    March 18, 2016

    Mr Astaphan: if only we could believe you. And I beg to differ: the true crime lays BOTH with the unauthorized person(s) who received it from police and also with posting documents on internet. But then again you may be fully aware of who those unauthorized persons are. Can you swear on a bible that the 1st place you saw it was on the internet?
    Keep taking Dominicans for fools.

  44. Just Me
    March 18, 2016

    He said the true crime lays not with unauthorized persons possessing the documents but with posting them on the internet.

    What NONSENSE IS THAT? Why should an “unauthorized” person have the document in the first place?

    I just hope there will really be an investigation and that this is not some kind of smoke screen

    • Face the Facts
      March 20, 2016

      It is simple. Since they had it, obviously it was given to them.

  45. Reader
    March 18, 2016

    For a SECOND! I thought Tony Astaphans was going to say something I could completely agree with. No, the true crime does not lie with persons distributing it after it has fallen into the public domain, though that is admittedly ill-advised. Kudos, however, on the first bit. We need to find out who is responsible for this, and stop it from happening.

  46. Free Thinker
    March 18, 2016

    Really Tony? SMH

  47. pushhhhhhhhhh
    March 18, 2016

    buh waitttt :( :( :( :( isnt that the same tony who leaked information from the IPO? So why didnt you take yourself to the police station and have them arrest you? Why didnt say the say things to yourself when you gave out information which should have been kept confidential….man get over yourself and stop talk…..as i said sometimes the same people who involved in criminal activities talk about criminal activities when they themselves in it,,,,,,just like some men who speak out openly against inappropriate sexual behavior towards children they themselves involved….waitttt for it……u will hear about them soon,,,just a matter of time those men in high places going to be exposed,,Some want to have meeting and wanting to pray about it,,,,,,but some in it

  48. March 18, 2016

    Win loose or Draw, the Alleged fix is cooked. Now show him the money. Only in Dominica.

  49. Katia
    March 18, 2016

    Says the devil

  50. The Evangelist?
    March 18, 2016

    That’s right sir! It’s an evil practice because it’s and evil government that has made everything around it evil, as stated by Jesus over three thousand years ago “A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Matt. 7:18.

    So skerrit is evil, his government is evil, his legal advisors are evil, his spiritual advisors are evil, his police commissioner is evil and everything and every one around his is evil and therefore as expected, the practices of any of his evil lutenant will be evil

  51. %
    March 18, 2016

    This reminds me of when Skerrits secret and confidential IPO information was leaked out,and wicked and malicious people made it appear that it was HONOURABLE Lennox Linton who did it…Dominica has good people,but many in jacket and tie are extremely malicious and wicked…No wonder the country is in the quagmire that it is today.

  52. Anna Prince
    March 18, 2016

    Wasn’t Tony the same person who was on DBS RADIO calling the names of two individuals who are involved in the same case that he refers to?
    There is a deliberate attempt on the part of the powers that be to contaminate the case and to allow the accused to walk free. In my opinion, Tony’s comments were in violation of the Sexual Offenses Act and he should be brought in for questioning.
    The provision for not naming perpetrators of sexual offenses is a ridiculous piece of legislation, because it is very easy for the perpetrator to pay someone to do the dirty job as we are witnessing in this case.
    The operatives are busy at work. Be vigilant patriots, look out for Tony’s nasty machinations.

  53. Anansi
    March 18, 2016

    Tony commenting on evil practices? Must be that swamp gas in the Everglades.

  54. stinky poo pants
    March 18, 2016

    If Anthony Astaphan condemns this one and calls it “An evil practice” it really has to be evil! However Tony I wonder if you know who introduced Dominica with this kind of evil practice

  55. March 18, 2016

    I agree with Tony on one condition and that is the person who also leaked the IPO declaration of the Prime Minister should also be prosecuted. Interestingly those so called media people on DBS are to afraid to ask Tony the question.

    • Face the Facts
      March 20, 2016

      Wicked imposter. You are not me. Therefore do not impersonate me. How foolish can you be, using the name which someone already uses. It is a wicked ploy.
      DNO must watch out for people as you. I would never think of doing that. Why would anyone as you ever consider that? I do not see the sense of it. Are you stupid? :mrgreen: :twisted: :mrgreen: :twisted: :mrgreen: :twisted: :mrgreen: :twisted: :mrgreen: :twisted: :mrgreen: :twisted: :mrgreen:
      One day I will write my book on how foolish some people are.

  56. passing cloud
    March 18, 2016

    The man that introduced the evil practice to us is now condemning it as “An evil Practice.”

    Here is an old Rhyme they reminds me of:

    Three blind mice, three blind mice
    See how they run, see how they run!

    They all ran after the farmer’s wife
    She cut a cheese with a carving knife
    Have you ever seen such a thing in your life
    As three blind mice?

  57. DA citizen
    March 18, 2016

    U see u that man there , now you coming out well u a little to late. we have no confident in one word that comes out of your mouth . now your interest is in the leaking of information and who did it .

  58. Leah Remy
    March 18, 2016

    The Oracle has spoken.

  59. tj
    March 18, 2016

    Is tony Astaphan P.M. By de jury or de facto? Help!!

  60. same old same old
    March 18, 2016

    Finally Tony As- ta- fan comes out from retirement and like a fan that knows how to blow the same old air around, he begins to condemn as evil, what he once introduced.

    Mr. Tony, you remember when the house of Hon. lennox Linton was turned upside down by police as they looked to arrest Mr. Linton for leaking information of the PM that they all knew he could not be the one who put it out? You remember who the investigation pointed to as the culprit and how Skerrit was quiock to say he authorized that person to put it out? Well Tony, that’s how that EVIL practice was introduced to us.

    Sir, as someone who now lives in the US u should now call on laborites to put partisan politics aside and put Skerrit out if we want to save Dominica.

    Tony, u see how Trump is the Republican getting the most votes but since most Republicans don’t support his views, they are out doing everything they can to ensure he is not their candidate for the Nov. election. Y can’t u all do the same? Help…

  61. oh Yes
    March 18, 2016

    While this despicable the same force should be exerted in the GON Emmanuel case sir. Stop being politically selective in this country.

  62. mastermind
    March 18, 2016

    Mr Senior Counsel i am happy you know that it is an evil practice to leak legal documents so why did you alledgely leaked those of Mr. Skerrit and almost made Mr. Linton be the one to face the wrath. That too was evil.

    Ihave a great suspicion that the document was not leaked by the police but by those who are caught in this unhuman act to a minor who are trying to destroy the case. God will take control an dlet them face the wrath of the law

  63. cameron
    March 18, 2016

    Tony Tony you of all people,the worst of them all,but thanks on speaking out.Your the real leader of Dominica,so now you have spoken out,Skerrit and Carbon must bow down and find the mold in the police force.THanks Tony TONY.

  64. Shaka Zulu
    March 18, 2016

    Lol. I heard a story that the devil was condemning ISIS. I doubt thier are any laws in Dominica that specifically lays out the how uploading files on internet is a crime. Secondly, it’s not the first time documents were leaked, remember the iPO doc. A few people implicated themselves especially high office official. How evil!!!!!! :twisted:

  65. holla
    March 18, 2016

    i think its from a layer to a politician. lol

  66. derp
    March 18, 2016

    hmm police investigating police hmmmm

  67. AAGabriel
    March 18, 2016

    Be quiet, I do not trust you. You are one of them, so whatever you are saying has absolutely no relevance.

  68. no justice, no peace
    March 18, 2016

    Astaphan, ask skeritt ,what he thinks about that, and you better be careful before he fires you

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