85 countries signed a statement by the United Nations Human Rights Council to support gay rights on March 22.
By signing the statement, nations “call on States to take steps to end acts of violence, criminal sanctions and related human rights violations committed against individuals because of their sexual orientation or gender identity, encourage Special Procedures, treaty bodies and other stakeholders to continue to integrate these issues within their relevant mandates, and urge the Council to address these important human rights issues.” While the statement acknowledges that there has been some progress recently in human rights w/r/t sexual orientation and gender identity, it also acknowledges that there’s a lot left to do.
Earlier this month, President Obama called for international support in fighting discrimination:
“Human rights are the inalienable right of every person, no matter who they are or who they love. The U.S. government is firmly committed to supporting the right of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender individuals to lead productive and dignified lives, free from fear and violence.”
And he (and the U.S., which is a member of the Human Rights Council and is trying to renew that membership despite concerns about its “biased and disproportionate focus on Israel”) got it. From 85 countries. The U.S. ambassador Susan Rice called the statement “historic.” In a joint release, Amnesty International, The International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission, and the Human Rights Watch called it “unprecedented.”
But predictably, not everyone supported defending gay rights.
– Before signing the (non-binding) statement, the ambassador from South Africa proposed creating a new group to study “new concepts such as sexual orientation” before trying to integrate them into international policy. Groups such as Lawyers for Human Rights and the Gay and Lesbian Equality Project contested this, obviously. South Africa eventually signed along with everyone else.
– The ambassador from Nigeria spoke against the statement, reportedly on behalf of the Africa Group, invoking heterosexuality, God, and saying that both men and women are needed to make babies. The Africa Group was previously behind a vote to remove sexual orientation from a resolution that protects against arbitrary execution. However, the ambassador still said that sexual orientation should not be criminalized. Nigeria did not sign the statement.
– The ambassador from Pakistan, speaking on behalf of 57 nations in which Muslim people are a majority, argued against the statement and didn’t sign.
– The Russian ambassador reportedly said that “these people” do not deserve “special rights” and also didn’t sign.
But! Countries such as Dominica, Honduras, Rwanda, Sierra Leone, and the Central African Republic did sign. Which is awesome, and makes it seem slightly more likely that the vision of a unified global stance against anti-gay violence can become a reality.
It was God who destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah remember
Any excuse to indulge in corruption. They come amongst you and teach you devilish behaviour and make you twice the son/daughter of hell. That does not mean you have the right to attack gays-but neither should one think its normal human behaviour.
I love this, its about time
Hmmm.
In the past I would have had to rely on ants to bring news for me, but now I have internet in the grave. I am very thankful that the government sees it fit to protect the rights of gay people. I was murdered just few months ago on the streets of Portsmouth just because the murderer felt that as a gay man I had no rights at all. He saw me like an animal on the side of the road. Sexuality is a very complex part of our existence and none of us can say that we truly understand it. So how can we be so angry and hateful towards people who we don’t fully understand. Why should we as a christian nation be so heartless towards anyone. Jesus Christ hung out with prostitutes, didn’t he?
nonsense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Matthew 24:36-38 (King James Version)
36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
John 13:34-35: A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.
Acts 10:34: So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality”
God did not never say romantic love or meant it in that way, gay lesbian, that is ABOMINATION unto God. When adam get lonely he make a woman not a MAN dats just nasty
The Genesis passage is very clear, that the sin of Sodom that brought on the destruction of the city was indeed linked to homosexuality
you want to talk about bible verses let me start giving you
(Jude 1:7), (Romans 1:26-32),Leviticus 18 and 20 the whole chapters uno, Romans 1, (1 Corinthians 6:9-11) (1 Timothy 1:8–10) 1 Timothy 1:9–10: etcccccc
Goad also say that man will lose their natural affection in the last days, this is ot saying that you hate them, cause God can forgive them but doe come about partiality cause God hate dat, tHATS AN ABOMINATION,FIRE BURN THEM HE SAY. mercy i pray for him to have on them mercy, cause that is aginst God’s words
Love the sinner but hate the sin.
dominica has been betrayed….wtf was this fool thinking to sign this sh*t…isn’t being gay illegal in d/a…not the ladies thought…nothing but love 4 you…do ur thang…burn them guys lmao
SHAME SHAME SHAME I THOUGHT DOMINICA WAS A GOD FEARING NATION I THOUGHT WE WERE CHRISTIAN NATION NOW WE SIGNING DECRIMINALISATION AGAINST GAY PEOPLE SO WHAT DOMINICA IS TELLING THE WORLD THAT WE SUPPORT THAT KIND OF NASTY UNPLEASANT UNGODLY ACT U MEAN TO TELL ME THE DOMINICA LABOUR PARTY HAS BROUGHT SADOM AND GOMARRAH TO DOMINICAN PEOPLE SHAME ON SKERRIT. THIS ACT WILL NOT BE PROMOTED IN THIS COUNTRY NOW WE SIGNING TO SUPPORT IT I WILL NEVER PROMOTE MY COUNTRY AGAIN AM TURNING MY BACK ON DOMINICA DOMINICA IS NOT MY HOME NO MORE ITS A DAMMMMMMMMMM SHAME TO SEE RIGHT NOW WE ARE SUPPORTING GAY. I DONT SUPPORT POLITICS SHAME ON DOMINICA AND IS NOT DOMINICA NO MORE IS DOMINICAN.
“DECRIMINALISATION”? That makes it sound to me that you support gay people virtually being beaten, harrassed, tormented, and/or possibly being killed? That doesn’t seem very Christian like to me, pretty much praising the abuse and suffering of another people.
They aren’t “supporting gay,” they’re simply supporting their protection from people who insist and think that beating them, harrassing them, tormenting them, and possibly even killing them is okay. This isn’t about supporting gay people and their acts, it’s about protecting them and giving them “equal rights” in a sense, much like in America with the Civil Rights Act of 1964 making it illegal for any and all blacks to be treated unfairly simply because they were black.
So I’ll say it again, they aren’t supporting gay sex, gay people, gay marriage, or anything like that. What they are supporting is their right to be protected from discrimination from people who either hate and/or fear them.
Thank you!! i don’t know why that was so hard to understand… then again most ppl on here only read as far as they want or care to understand!
The world is changing and if you don’t do you will be left in the sands of time my friend
boy cool out nuh……. lets be civilised
Yes!
O.M.G yall do know your wasting your time…………targeting “GAY” people esp. the OUT gays….We don’t go around every where we see straight people and say “look a sagg let us stone dat!” Homosexuality…yes it is wrong and we know that even better than you than any priest or pastor….and some people in this world are trying to make it look like they “ACCOMMODATING” us in their country? We all have to answer to GOD when the time comes believe me when i say noadays people just forgetting everything in the bible n quoting parts that talk about gay life when JESUS was on earth….and there was an still is “FREE WILL” so stop me….
Each time the issue of homosexuality comes up, commentators provide the same argument from the same perspective all the time. With all what these people have to say, has anyone of them ever spoken to a gay person to understand their feelings and learn about their gay orientation on a whole? Have they read any literature on what psychologists and other professionals have to say on the subject of human sexuality? Do these people ever take the time to talk to their partners, brothers, fathers and sons to know for sure that they are not as heterosexual as they seem? It’s time that we start writing comments that are informed and backed up with practical knowledge instead of relying on just stereotypical information and hate, which is just pure ignorance.
every body that support gays are against God’s work
god never make Adam and Steve or Eve and Evett
God said go forth and multiply not go forth and divide a nation
But the reason I think the PM did this is for tourism
Is them gays that have more money
Any ting to see our little Dominica develop
Soon they will make it illegal 4 preachers to say sodomy is an abomination.They will say preachers using bible 2 incite violence against sodomites.
That is the next level
I do believe this is true.
But in the face of it I boldly declare to God, Satan, angels, demons, and all mankind I remain committed to
my calling to preach the Word, and to be instant in season and out of season!
If I am put in prison my cell will be my pulpit. I will stand at the bars and read my Bible aloud to all who can hear me in other cells, and every person who walks by. This Pentecostal preacher will be heard praying, and worshiping God in the tongues of men and of angels as far as the human voice can carry.
Any prime minister or president, king or queen, who refuses to uphold the code of morals God has given us in the Sacred Scriptures and bows to the sodomites is a fool. That person is taking his or her nation out from under the protection of Almighty God, and surrendering their leadership to the evil one.
Continued …
Continuation…
I encourage Christians everywhere – especially pastors in Dominica – to come out of your comfort zone! Dare to take a radical stand stand for righteousness. Declare the truth of God as you have never declared it before. Open the BOOK and expound Romans 1:18-32, and 1 Corinthians 6:9,10!
This is not practice run or a rehearsal. This is the final act.
You have hear it is the last days. I But I say unto you we are now deep into the evening of the last day.
I can almost hear HIS footfall on the threshold of the door.
And my heart, my heart is longing to be with Him ever more!
Sincerely, Rev. Donald Hill. International Evangelist.
I want to applaud the government of Dominica for that great step towards human rights and civilization, and for standing against discrimination! Personally i have never encountered racism but history told me about great men like Martin Luther King, John F Kennedy, and so many more people who lost their lifves for that great cause, M.L.K marched against racism,bigotry,prejudice,so that all men would have equal rights.We are a small nation that embrace our culture and thats all good and we call our self a christian nation ok,but christianity came from europe! While Samuel,Moses,Abraham,David and Jesus the christ came from Africa! So who is to say who’s wrong and who’s right, we sit down and want to target one group of people how hypocritical of us, do we come out against Bigamy, fornication, adultry, theft, child molestation all these acts the bible teach against? like we try to hate and discriminate against some people that didn’t even have a choice in the matter, is the same as someone hating you because you are black or white or short or tall. I am positively attracted to women but thats me, as far as i see the ones with the problem here are the so call straight people who talk against a brother or sister thats different, i dont see gay people trying to beat up straight people, so yes the problem is you mr and miss straight.Yes black men use to be hanging from trees like strange fruits just because they were black. That was wrong, cause you had no choice in the matter. Gay men and lesbians had no choice in the matter. Yes am not talking about the curious people am talking about the people that were born that way like me being born a proud black man! So lets start respecting one another. We have our law we enforce them, no straight or gay men and women should make out in the public infront our children. but what ever you do in your bed room thats no body,s business.
everytime people compare gay to being black that makes me real angry cause what u are saying is that being black is a sin. according to the bible what is hidden in the dark will be revealed unto light so that vibes about u private only shields u from man not God. suppose i feel that i was born to kill people does that make it right? we know right and wrong and we all fall short but the point is we try to change the wrong that we are doing instead of revelling in it. AND PLEASE LEAVE BLACK OUT OF ALLYU GAY DISCUSSION.
Everybody is happy and gay..All Shall Eat…No name no warrant.
but you guys are funny you all behave like there is only one sin ,what about the others ,stupess ssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!be real and stop hating all sins are sin you all are behaving like hell is for one set and it has different level NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
All sin not sin in the eyes of the law
cause all sin have different jail time
Let us stick to the topic. Supporting and signing an agreement of discrimination against people of this orientation, approving and legislating it are two different matters.
I support that people have a right to their lifestyle. This does not mean I approve of it and that, abnormal practices as homosexuality, lesbianism and same sex so-called marriage should be legislated.
Their right does not mean that God approves of it. God gave everyone a free mind and as it is stated He will not touch that free mind. However, we will conform to His Most Holy Will and live according to His Commands/Commandments otherwise bear the consequences of our actions.
At the same time Our Lord Jesus Christ expects that we will treat everyone with due respect and dignity and accord them their human rights. Our Lord Jesus Christ said: “Vengeance is Mine. I will repay!” Leave them alone.
Human rights in this case of practicing homosexuality is debatable. However, make no mistake, homosexuality is intrinsically wrong. I am unable to comprehend why some people are gays and lesbians. What has caused them to live such a lifestyle?
God created human beings/babies. He did not create sin and the practice of homosexuality and lesbianism. Satan caused this. Make good note of that.
My conclusion is that there is good and evil in the world. God and the enemy of God and of our souls, Satan is the cause of this. This evil one is responsible for evil of every nature and homosexual and lesbian abomination which exist in the world.
Governments can issue only mandates that these people, as human beings should not be discriminated against. These are the mandates: ethical employment, housing and according them their due rights and dignity, as human beings. This is all that they are entitled to just as heterosexuals are accorded.
Homosexuals are not entitled to legislation to observe their practices as being authentic. Their practices are abnormal.
Everyone knows that God did not create Adam and Steve but Adam and Eve. Homosexuals and lesbians cannot pro-create babies. Yet, some of them want the best of two worlds as adoption and other means of getting babies. This in itself should indicate to the mortal and spiritual-minded that their actions are abnormal.
There are some governments of the world as Christian as they appear to be, one of whom is President Obama (as much as I support him in other aspects), who have fallen into a trap, the trap of Satan by approving and legislating homosexuality that these people have a right to get married and live as normal heterosexual people. They do not have that right!
GOD DID NOT GIVE THEM THAT RIGHT TO GET MARRIED NOR THOSE GOVERNMENTS TO LEGISLATE THIS ABOMINATION WHICH IS AGAINST HIS EXPECTATIONS. This is what gets me angry.
Woe to those on that day of reckoning before God when they will see their error, too late, of approving and legislating homosexuality and same sex so-called marriage. It is not amusing to God and they will not be amused on that day to their eternal detriment.
I urge every Christian, every law-abiding citizen, those who oppose this abomination which upsets specifically the majority of us to write your governments and express your opinion in no uncertain way but respectfully.
Those governments who approve and legislate this abomination, they, too are going down slippery slopes along with homosexuals and lesbians. What is more, those governments are bringing down the wrath of God upon their nation and nationals. Give this a good thought.
Those governments who did not sign such an agreement are within their right but are on the right track. Granted, they may not be perfect including those of us who oppose this abomination but rest assured that refusing to sign such an agreement is pleasing to God.
NEVER APPROVE AND LEGISLATE HOMOSEXUALITY, LESBIANISM (as I call this) AND SO-CALLED SAME SEX MARRIAGE!
God’s enlightenment and peace be to you.
The U.S. government is not supposed to be religious. The Constitution explicitly enforces a separation of church and state. This is why saying “one nation under God” is technically wrong under the Constitution. The Founding Fathers were primarily deists or skeptics, and they were thus not “religious.”
I would remind you that a century ago, many racists believed the SAME about blacks. They referred to jazz, which African-Americans created, as “satanic” music. They called African-Americans devils and demons and abominations. And yet you happily embrace the beliefs of such people. How quickly we forget!
Well said man. I strongly oppose same sex marriage but do agree that gays and lesbians should be treated equally, and we should not condone violence against them which is what this agreement is about.
Are you crazy? As human beings they have the same rights as everybody else. What they want is special rights that you and I dont have, legal protection for their dirty ways!!
MY GOD THAT IS HOW DOMINICA COME THERE, I CAN BELIVE THE BISHOP AN THE EVANGELICAL CHURCHS OF DOMINICA WHO USE OR IS SAY GOD BLESS THE PM NO THAT THEIR SWEET PM MAKES SOMETHIN THAT THE LORD GOD IS AGAINST IS NOW IN THEIR FACE DOMINICA IS NOW GOIN TO GET HELL. GOD HELP ME AN MY FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!
Most of those you mention are ALL GAYS, AND HAVE BEEN OPPERATING IN DOMINICA FOR YEARS, MANY PEOPLE WERE AFRAID TO SAY BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW DOMINICANS THINK IF THEY HAVE A BIBLE THEY CAN DO ANYTHING, PEOPLE STILL NOT REPORTING ACT THAT WAS COMMITED ON THEM. THEY ARE AFRAID, BECAUSE NO ONE WILL BELIEVE THEM, EVEN WHEN A PRIEST HAVE A CHILD WITH A WOMAN IN DOMINICA THEY BLAME THE WOMAN , ALTHOUGH IT TOOK TWO BUT OUT PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND, AS LONG AS YOU ARE IN A POSITION YOU CAN DO ALL THE WRONG IN DOMINICA THEY WILL ALL GO IN DENIAL BECAUS THAT HOW THEY ARE . i AM NOT SAYING KILL THEM BUT LET THEM LIVE AWAY FROM OTTHER PEOPLE, DOMINICAS KNOW THERE ARE MANY MANY GAYS IN HIGH POSSITION SO THEY NEED PROTECTION
You sure u know what you r saying?I got nothing from what you tried to say.You are really ignorant.
why do the nation rage, and the people plot the sinful ways and take counsel together against the lord and his anointed saying, we should protect gay saying that they will fear no more to be gay in your bedroom that whould not hurt nobody. BUT the influence on kids thats hurt.
We seem to take more pleasure in making empty noise……every thing is so twisted….from A to Z…..
Critical Analysis, which displays negativity on every topic….
The fear of the unknown seems more powerful than most of us…..
live and let live….why allow others happiness to bring us unhappiness…..
we can’t change the world no matter how hard we TRY too…. C’EST la vie.
A mothers worst fear is that her son comes home and say MOM I am gay….but what can she do, kill him? the same goes for fathers…
SAD to say, but sometimes the things we comeplain most about in others, are the things we hate most about ourselve…..knowledge is power…
I’m not gay nor do i support gays but we all are human beings and we all need protection. They chose to live their life how they want while i live mine so we should respect each other choice.
They already have the same protection as you and me! If they complain to the police about some crime against them, just like you and me the police will take action. If you blaysay them you will be in court tomorrow, just like anybody else! It’s already in the law, all citizens are equal! What they are pushing for however is for special rights!! They want rights that you and I do not have, the right to live an aberrant lifestyle and have society approve! It’s bad enough that they do those filthy deeds but why do they want society to approve? It’s not in society’s interest, not to mention trampling on our traditions! It’s like animal farm, “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others”
why should they legalize that, in the beginning of time god never made two women or two men, is man and woman, why people with the same sex, that’s not right, skerrit cursing the country, best i did not vote for mister cause since is that he doing, i wash my hands clean, WHY HE CANNOT BE GAY ALL BY HIMSELF, thats not just or lawful
Where in this article did you read they were trying to legalize anything? Take your time and ready properly.
Ou touj douva sa ti tete ehaye ou vwe ou toujou la ….pa swiv ou lot ou ka igwete….
Midnight Groover lyric….Ti Tete.
We are like breast always in front, we most learn to stand for what is right because one day we will all regret.
Read Leviticus MAN SHOULD NOT LIE WITH MAN THAT AN ABOMINATION
Yes what is sodomy, if we understand the bible context of the stories in Joshua and Deutoronomy we wil see that sodomy is inhospitality. The raping of strangers or those who are different, so when we hate people because of there differences be it sexual orientation and we beat them up and rape them because they are dierent, that is sodomy and yes the Creator hates that behaviour. so the pastors will be wrong for inciting hatred in the name of God.
hold up sodomy is not in hospitality!!!! I understand where u trying to go but your theology is a bit off. you call a spade a spade! the story of Sodom is one of inhospitality and NOt of homosexual any person in ther good mind i hope knows that.(and its true pastors read what they want to get what they want *iseegesis) and hurt people in the process
Here are 14 references to Sodom and not one of them mentions homosexuality!!!!! The overwhelming themes are idolatry, immorality and inhospitality!
Deuteronomy 29:17-26 – the sin – idolatry and images to false gods – “Why has the Lord done this to the land? . . . It is because this people abandoned the covenant of the Lord . . .”
Deuteronomy 32:32-38 – the sin – idolatry – “He will say ‘Now where are their gods?'”
Isaiah 1:2-23 – the sin – idolatry, rebellion, injustice, murder, greed, theft, covetousness, mistreating the poor – “They have rebelled against Me.”
Isaiah 3:8-19 – the sin – idolatry, arrogance – “Their words and deeds are against the Lord, defying His glorious Presence”
Jeremiah 23:10-14 – the sin – idolatry, adultery, lying by priests and prophets – “Both prophet and priest are godless. . . . They prophesied by Baal and led My people astray.”
Jeremiah 49:16-18 – the sin – idolatry, arrogance, oppression, pride of the heart – “The terror you inspire and the pride of your heart have deceived
you. . .”
Jeremiah 50:2-40 – the sin – idolatry, pride, false prophets – “Her images will be put to shame and her idols filled with terror. . . . . For she has defied the Lord, the Holy One of Israel. . . . . Their shepherds have led them astray.”
Lamentations 4:3-6 – the sin – cruelty and failure to care for the young and poor – “My people have become heartless.”
Ezekiel 16:49-50 – the sin – “Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned: they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me.”
Amos 4:1-11 – the sin – idolatry, oppression, mistreating the poor – “I overthrew some of you as I overthrew Sodom . . . . yet you have not returned to Me.”
Zephaniah 2:8-11 – the sin – idolatry, pride, mocking – “This is what they will get in return for their pride, for insulting and mocking the people of the Lord Almighty. The Lord will be awesome to them when He destroys all the gods of the land.”
Luke 17:26-29 – Jesus speaking – No specific sins mentioned
II Peter 2:1-22 – the sin – idolatry, living after ungodliness, lawlessness, arrogance, blaspheming, adultery, greed, corruption, depravity, boasting, lust – “But there were also false prophets among the people . . . . .”
Jude 1:7-8 – the sin – sexual immorality and perversion, i.e fornication after strange flesh (angels, see Genesis 6:1) KJV
dno
i really think that i am being discriminated against. what’s up with the hypocrisy. we are talking about gays right. gayandproud asked a question so i’m simply askin him a question also.
many comments speak of hatred against gay, but you post it.
why can’t i ask gayand proud if he douches or not and if nt how oftern. wouldn’t he need to0????
it is anal sex
so who exactly voted for that bill in the UN was it not the ambassador that lenox is saying is not attending the meetings at the UN? So if Dominica is mentioned as voted for this bill who vote on our behalf let me know lennox
Fire Burn….Fire Burn…..Fire Burn….Purification time is coming nearer……
So when they going to take it off their law books making it illegal ???
By signing, they are NOT saying that it is now illegal.
They are saying that gay people or people with gender identity problems (male or female) have rights to. They should not live in fear of vicitimization, persecution etc.
I am not anti gay (each to their own, as long as they are consenting adults),and believe that everyone should have equal rights.
Please dont go thinking that its OK to come out of the closet and openly flaunt who preference in public.
yeah. God created all men and women equal, despite their sexual orientation. Therefore, we should not discriminate against them because of their orientation.
HOWEVER, we should alert Mr gaynproud that his BEHAVIOUR is what is the problem, because it is contrary to God’s natural law. 
So I believe this is a good initiative, as long as they don’t grant rights to same sex “marriage,” which I believe is a mockery of the sacred sacrament between a MAN AND WOMAN. 
IT’S NOT THE ”OUT OF THE CLOSET GAYS” WE SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT BUT THOSE THAT PRETEND TO BE STRAIGHT AND CARRY DISEASES HOME! This is a dilemma but it’ll blow over. Besides in every family has got a gay or lesbian or both, so y are we judging again? and don’t comment and say ur family don’t have a gay or lesbian ok mr or miss ignorant? However if u r confident ur family don’y have a gay or lesbian then leave ur name and ignorant comment! that way u will make someone that know u and ur family lol… cause they will know better!!!!!! some of u dominicans are so ignorant and narrow minded!
read d bible. Thou shalt not indulge in any sexual act with the same gender….. Sodom Sodom Sodom. May god help them.
The sins of Sodom and Gomorrah was not some of the people engaging in homosexuality but RAPE, inhospitality, hatred of strangers and making slaves of guests.
I put my faith and trust in not only the Wisdom of Solomon, the Prophets Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Zephaniah but especially and specifically in Christ who said,
Wisdom 19:13
13 the sin of Sodom was a “bitter hatred of strangers” and “making slaves of guests who were benefactors.”
Ezekiel 16:49-50
49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness (sic) of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.
Rape, inhospitality, pride, more than enough idle time on their hands and enough to eat but they cared not for thed poor and needy. Does this remind you of the 21st Century?
use the bible to bring unity Learn to read it and understand it well stop putting words in God mouth !!!
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most of all u commenting here did not get the right topic. simple the article says that dominica is one of the countries which support and respect peopls right, including homosexuals. it never said that dominica passed a law to support homos and to legalize homosexuality.MOST OF U ALL ARE REAL ARROGANT. just jumping behind a pc a start to post some bull crap when there is no bull sheet to pick up by a matador.
YOU STUPID OR WAT?
THEY SIGN IT TO GIVE THEM EQUAL RITES
IT’S LIKE SUPPORTING HOMOS
YOU R THE ONE BEING REAL ARROGANT
We did understand what the article said. However, among the violent crimes committed last year, including drive-by shooting, how many of them were against gays??? I thought the laws against violence and respecting of human rights were to protect all human beings (unless gays are not normal humans and they some alien law to survive on this planet). They are just being ridiculous.
You see, the life of a homo is a direct attack against humans being alive. The active lifestyle of a homo says on a daily basis, people should stop having children and its time for humans to be extinct. You see if it was left to a homo, they would not be alive neither would any of us.
The UN should take the time out to put some real work into passing resolution where children are not to leave their elderly parents in deplorable conditions and turn their backs and roam the world. Now we are talking human rights.
They may say to us , that discrimination against gay is violence against gay people. But do not be deceived they also classify people, who oppose the act homosexuality, as discriminators. Also remember under hate crime law in the US and UK if a christian or anybody call homosexuality a sin and is reported he will be reported and be arrested. This will lead to destroy true Christianity.
We call our country a christian country, but our own government (DLP or UWP) will take away our freedom of religion. But the will not live his children without protection.
God bless
God is coming soon…Don’t worry…let them be ignorant…. go on sign just sign away and do what all you want
Let them do what they want
To D Layou
What is all that paranoia about simply because the Government decides to sign an agreement calling for the protecting of gay people being victimized by violence and discrimination, is this truly a threat to your faith or religion, wow, i do not think so.
Your understanding about the hate laws in the US and the UK as you stated is clearly inaccurate and shows ignorance on your part. Do you know your right to practice your religion without fear of being victimized by violence and discrimination is guaranteed under the constitution in Dominica. Stop being paranoid and fearful and learn to be more tolerant.
Everyone deserves protection from violence and discrimination. People should realize what the U.N. people are really creating when they pick out only one group of people at a time.
They are pitting people against people. Don’t hop on their mindless train.
to jude nicholas and the rest
please tell me? in what way are gays being discriminated againt in the caribbean? are they being teased? people who aren’t gay are get teased and bullied also. are they being called names? well so have i . i’ve been called names tooo. WHY SHOULD GAYS GET SPECIAL TREATMENT. women and young girls get raped just for being females. should the perpetrator also be charged with discrimination. PEOPLE YOU SEE HOW STUPId THIS LAW IS. GAYS ARE GONNA GET SPECIAL TREATMENT. are they more important than kid, who get physically and sexually abused. how about passing a law to ban corporate punishment.
let us please look at it from this perpective, commenting on how wrong it is for the same sex to be romantiically involved is not helping. i agree it is wrong but i believe that two grown adult should be allowed to be with wohomever they want. it is between them and God. i will simply talk to them about God’s word and pray that they come to realize that it’s a sin. that’s all we can do. BUT IT SEEM LIKE THE GOVERNMENT IS TELLING THEMTHAT THEY ARE BETTER THATN EVERYONE ELSE
Bro cant you remember sometimes ago a young man from Portsmouth was brutally murdered in broad daylight because it was alleged that he was a homosexual?
Are we to support these brutal acts against persons because they are Gay? We should teach them the light and the way of God but not institute any form of violence against them. I support the statement on this matter.
Please be guided that I am a Lay Minister in the Catholic Church and I strongly condem the Act but not the individual.
How can you compare rapists to homosexuals? Why do people do this? A rapist, a child molestor, etc.–none of these people have anything to do with gay people. Some of them may be gay; some of them may be straight. Rapists and pedophiles are sick, twisted people; straight and gay are only orientations, and neither has to have anything to do with rape or molestation.
And while I agree that this brings up the question of where lines will be drawn, why should sexual orientation be allowed to be discriminated against? It’s neither right nor wrong in of itself. And they DO need protection in the Caribbean right now. Jamaica is often called the most homophobic country on Earth. Until the world becomes more civilized, we need these laws.
It is the same argument as race discrimination. Why have laws allowing blacks not to be discriminated, eh? Makes them sound better than everyone else, right? But you would be horrified to see such discrimination, and rightly so. We live in a world where racism still exists. Until racism, homphobia, etc. vanish, these anti-discrimination laws must be in place.
While I strongly condem the Act of hommosex and lesbianism, I am strongly against any form of violence and discrimination against the individual.
The Government move must be applauded in this regard. The statement does not support the actual ACT or lifestyles of gays, but condems all forms of violence and discrimination against the person.
Remember adultry was punishable by stonning to death. However, Christ himself, stopped that form of violence against the individual when he asked ” he who have no sin cast the first stone”
Congratulations for such a bold move!
So we are against Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Deuteronomy 23 17-18, 1 Corinthians 6:9 and
1 Timothy 1:10?
NO, they are just against you
WikiLeaks boy u will get punished when u violate the laws of God, don’t u go to church.
Finally, some progressiveness. Violently anti-gay stances cannot work, politically or morally, in a civilized 21st-century world.
I won’t get into the finer points of the argument, but I will say this: how can you belive that people choose their sexual orientation? A variety of women attract me, but I sure didn’t “choose” to like them. Moreover, in a world in which people can be killed for homosexuality, why would anyone willingly choose it? They wouldn’t. Therefore, the greatest likelihood is that it is not something you can choose. Oh, sure, a heterosexual person can choose to engage in same-sex operations, but this is not likely to happen, and this is not the same as saying the person is gay. How can you attack people for who they are? Soon, we will want to kill people for having red hair, for being too tall or too short, for things they cannot be held responsible for.
Moreover, many animals engage in homosexual activity. By no means are homo sapiens the only animal to do so. It serves no procreative purpose, but, really, does the world NEED more people right now? I’m not advocating either celibacy or homosexuality as a way to lower the population, but to argue that the function of humans is only to procreate is particularly absurd in a globe where we don’t even have enough resources for our populations.
Just because an old book says something is so, and just because your parents and their colonists told them the same, does not make it so. We must make our own decisions and be no one’s mental slaves, and we must respect, if not love, all human beings, unless they are truly evil, and it is a savage man like Hitler, not a homosexual, who is truly evil.
Thank you!. Well said.
u seem well educated! agree 100 percent!!! u were not biased in any respect but viewed this from a wide perspective!
stop the buggery it is very unhealthy it spells STD HIV cant u see there is enough pleague already . why encourage or condone homosexuality when dominica has somuch natural feminine beauty by your sides women flowing like river menyou can have one everyday.why do you choose to be gay.very nasty.
Again idiot, people don’t choose to be gay.Though there’s people out there who a curious. But for most its not by choice. Do you know that every fetus once conceived is first a woman, and further along in the developmental stages it either changes to a male or remains a female? Educate yourself and stop sounding so stupid.
things we do in life is done by free will
don’t make these stupid excusses
jesus said i put life and death before you but i think you should choose life
so what you talking about . people that putting guns in their head nah and telling them what to do
some have nice wives and they still doing that nonsense so whats your point
ASK GOD TO FORGIVE YOU FOR TALKING SUCH CRAP
ENOUGH WITH YOUR IGNORANCE
Why should Dominica sign when homosexuality is illegal in Dominica? Well maybe the law has been changed and I am not aware of it. Please inform me.
It still remains illegal in Dominica, as well as violence against anyone.
FOR THE TIME BUT I KNOW YOU VEX
some ppl tend to think that these bat**yboys or gurls are the only one who sin. some of them just read the bible and read it upside down, judgement is not only cast for some its for all, and we all are to be judged for our sins, so all those who want to be on the gays, or lesbos well newsflash guess wat u are as bad as them, u aint any different, if u live in a bubble and do say or see nothing then u can talk, until then leave them ppl alone……well done Dominica its time we protect our brothers and sisters. we are all human beings
Interesting discussion
All dem man that saying fire on b*tty man well in their b*tty business. Ease up government did not legalize homosexuality all they did is support that their should be no discrimination against people becuz they are gay. I am not interested in gay vibes but let dem people check their scene once they respect other people
My point exactly
positive!!!!
dominica has signed. who did the signing on behalf of dominica? i dont belive that we are doing justice to our people by signing this foolish paper, our people must never reach to the point of accepting such beastly and ungodly acts so why tralk about protection of something that u stand against. for this reason clearly stated in the word of God did he distrroy sodom and gomora. so are we asking God to apologise because he will do the sam ein this days toall nations who will compromise with such wicked acts. because judgement against an evil did is not speedily executed mans heart is set to do wickedly found in ecc. but may we be warned that God will rain distruction upon lovers or evil. if we want to proctect them then they will ask us soon to accept them , let these perverts know that their act are evil and antichrist so we will never accept it. we dont hate the persons but we hate the actions of perversion
The story of Sodom and Gomorrah has been used by people to condemn gays. The argument used by them is that God destroyed these cities because the people of these cities were homosexuals. In this section we will show conclusive BIBLICAL evidence that Sodom and Gomorrah were NOT destroyed because of homosexuals. The only book I will use to show this is the Bible. The Bible does not contradict itself because the it is the Word of God and God is not fickle.
The beginning of this story is found in Genesis 13:
Genesis 13:8-13
So Abram said to Lot, “Let’s not have any quarreling between you and me, or between your herdsmen and mine, for we are brothers. Is not the whole land before you? Let’s part company. If you go to the left, I’ll go to the right; if you go to the right, I’ll go to the left.” Lot looked up and saw that the whole plain of the Jordan was well watered, like the garden of the LORD, like the land of Egypt, toward Zoar. (This was before the LORD destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.) So Lot chose for himself the whole plain of the Jordan and set out toward the east. The two men parted company: Abram lived in the land of Canaan, while Lot lived among the cities of the plain and pitched his tents near Sodom. Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD. (NIV)
Abraham and Lot were so wealthy that they had to separate because the land could not support both of them with all their family members, herds, and workers in one place Lot chose to move his family to the twin cities.
The next time we hear about these cities is in Genesis 18:16-33. Here God tells Abraham his plan for Sodom and Gomorrah.
Genesis 18:20-21
Then the LORD said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.” (NIV)
Abraham pleads for these cities because of his nephew Lot. While Abraham and God were talking, the other two angels go to Sodom. Let’s read for ourselves what really happened that day:
Genesis 19:1-13
The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.” “No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.” But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate.
Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom both young and old– surrounded the house. They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.” Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.” “Get out of our way,” they replied. And they said, “This fellow came here as an alien, and now he wants to play the judge! We’ll treat you worse than them.” They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door. But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back into the house and shut the door. Then they struck the men who were at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they could not find the door. The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here–sons-in- law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it.” (NIV)
There are several major holes in the theory that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of homosexuality. First, The idea that “all” the men of Sodom were gay is ridiculous. For one thing, Lot’s daughters were pledged to be married to men of Sodom. Second, if all the men were homosexuals, why did Lot offer his daughters to appease them? What good would it do to offer a gay man a woman to have sex with? Finally, these people threatened Lot. If he didn’t comply with their wishes they said they would do WORSE to him that to the two visitors. They were also trying to force the door down. They were obviously violent and they were trying to get at two unwilling guests. Whenever you mix sex with violence against an unwilling person you do not have homosexuality, you have RAPE.
There is another story in the Bible in which the same thing happened:
. Judges 19:13-27
He added, “Come, let’s try to reach Gibeah or Ramah and spend the night in one of those places.” So they went on, and the sun set as they neared Gibeah in Benjamin. There they stopped to spend the night. They went and sat in the city square, but no one took them into his home for the night. That evening an old man from the hill country of Ephraim, who was living in Gibeah (the men of the place were Benjamites), came in from his work in the fields. When he looked and saw the traveler in the city square, the old man asked, “Where are you going? Where did you come from?” He answered, “We are on our way from Bethlehem in Judah to a remote area in the hill country of Ephraim where I live. I have been to Bethlehem in Judah and now I am going to the house of the LORD. No one has taken me into his house. We have both straw and fodder for our donkeys and bread and wine for ourselves your servants– me, your maidservant, and the young man with us. We don’t need anything.” “You are welcome at my house,” the old man said. “Let me supply whatever you need. Only don’t spend the night in the square.” So he took him into his house and fed his donkeys. After they had washed their feet, they had something to eat and drink.
While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, “Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with him.” The owner of the house went outside and said to them, “No, my friends, don’t be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don’t do this disgraceful thing. Look, here is my virgin daughter, and his concubine. I will bring them out to you now, and you can use them and do to them whatever you wish. But to this man, don’t do such a disgraceful thing.” But the men would not listen to him. So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. (NIV)
Notice the similarity in the stories. Compare Genesis 19:4,5 with Judges 19:22.
Genesis 19:4,5
Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom– both young and old– surrounded the house. They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”
Judges 19:22
While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, “Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with him.”
In the account in Judges the wicked men were appeased with the female concubine. This proves they were not homosexuals. They were after sex for power or rape. If you read further you’ll learn that the tribe of Benjamin was almost totally destroyed because of this incident. Neither the tribe of Benjamin nor the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were punished because of homosexuality. Both of these accounts clearly describe rape. What the men of Sodom were going to do to the angels in Genesis was what the men of Gibeah did to the traveler’s concubine in Judges.
Why were Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed? What were the grievous sins that God judged them worthy of such destruction? What was the great outcry God was referring to in Genesis chapter 18? We don’t need to wonder. The Bible tells us exactly why these cities were destroyed.
Ezekiel 16:48-50
As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done. “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen. (NIV)
Ezekiel Chapter 16 is an allegory God used to compare unfaithful Jerusalem to an adulterous wife for committing religious adultery. As you can see God listed the sins of Sodom. No homosexuality is listed there. Those detestable or abominable acts mentioned refereed to the religious rituals popular in that time. We will cover these in the section on false gods.
Deuteronomy 29:22-26
Your children who follow you in later generations and foreigners who come from distant lands will see the calamities that have fallen on the land and the diseases with which the LORD has afflicted it. The whole land will be a burning waste of salt and sulfur– nothing planted, nothing sprouting, no vegetation growing on it. It will be like the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboiim, which the LORD overthrew in fierce anger.
All the nations will ask: “Why has the LORD done this to this land? Why this fierce, burning anger?” And the answer will be: “It is because this people abandoned the covenant of the LORD, the God of their fathers, the covenant he made with them when he brought them out of Egypt. They went off and worshiped other gods and bowed down to them, gods they did not know, gods he had not given them. (NIV)
Moses was about to die and he predicted the scattering of Israel and the destruction of the land like the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. This destruction of Israel was not prophesied because of homosexuality but because of religious infidelity. This is quite in line with the context of the entire Bible. Of course God promises their restoration in Deuteronomy chapter 30. This complete restoration is about to happen in the end times, but that is another study.
Amos 4:11
“I overthrew some of you as I overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. You were like a burning stick snatched from the fire, yet you have not returned to me,” declares the LORD. (NIV)
If you read the book of Amos you find that God promises to overthrow Israel as He overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah for three things: turning away from God which is religious unfaithfulness, being evil to the poor and living selfishly. Homosexuality is not even addressed.
Jeremiah 23:13,14
“Among the prophets of Samaria I saw this repulsive thing: They prophesied by Baal and led my people Israel astray. And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible: They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers, so that no one turns from his wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me; the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.” (NIV)
Here is yet another comparison of the promised judgment of Israel to the judgment of Sodom and Gomorrah. Once again the theme is religious unfaithfulness, not homosexuality.
Matthew 10:11-15
“Whatever town or village you enter, search for some worthy person there and stay at his house until you leave. As you enter the home, give it your greeting. If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. I tell you the truth, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town. (NIV)
Here, Jesus Christ compares the sin of Sodom to the sin of faithlessness in people who reject the Gospel and inhospitality.
Matthew 11:20-24
Then Jesus began to denounce the cities in which most of his miracles had been performed, because they did not repent. “Woe to you, Korazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down to the depths. If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you.” (NIV)
Here the Lord again makes reference to Sodom’s destruction as he talks about unrepentant cities that refuse to believe in him or his miracles. This is about religious unfaithfulness and unbelief, not homosexuality.
If you don’t know Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior, you can know him right now. Don’t be guilty of not believing in Him. Here is what Jesus himself said:
John 3:16-18
“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. (NIV)
Notice that Jesus said WHOEVER believes in him shall have eternal life. The condemnation is reserved for WHOEVER does not believe in Him. He made no mention of homosexuals in this passage.
If you recognize that you are a sinner and need Jesus to be the Lord of your life then it is a very simple process. Ask God to forgive you of whatever has separated you from Him. That is what sin is. When you ask Him that he will forgive you:
I John 1:9-10
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives. (NIV)
According to Romans 10:9,10 all you have to do is:
…confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. (NIV)
At the end of this article is a simple sample prayer that you can pray. There is also some other information you will want if it is your desire to receive Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior.
If you have known Jesus as your Lord and Savior but felt you had to walk away because you are gay, come back to Him. He has never left you. Repent of whatever you have done to hurt yourself, others and God. He is just waiting for you with open arms. He understands it was all a misunderstanding. His love never fails.
Psalm 36:10-12
O continue thy lovingkindness unto them that know thee; and thy righteousness to the upright in heart. Let not the foot of pride come against me, and let not the hand of the wicked remove me. There are the workers of iniquity fallen: they are cast down, and shall not be able to rise. (KJV)
Psalm 48:9
Within your temple, O God, we meditate on your unfailing love. (NIV
Sophia:
I am concerned about your effort to explain away God’s judgment upon people in the Old Testament for their homosexual behaviour and then avoid entirely the New Testament prohibitions against this abomination.
The people God punished in the old Testament for homosexuality were also guilty of other sins. Nobody denies this. In some cases these other sins were sins of omission such as their lack of hospitatlity. Many people were guilty of other sins and not showing hospitality and were not directly punished by God. It was homosexuality that was the CROWNING sin – the “abomination” – that brought God’s wrath down in Genesis 19.
In the New Testament it is clear that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrha because of their “fornication” which comes from a Greek word meaning “illicate sex” and includes homosexuality.
It specifies that it was “fornication” with “strange flesh”.
“Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” (Jude vs.7).
It appears that the men of Sodom would have raped the angelical visitors that night. However, homosexuality was the sin that brought their destruction – the homosexuality they had been practicing among themselves for a long time – not merely what happened that particular night. The law God later gave Moses (Leviticus 18:22) forbid homosexuality not only homosexual rape.
It is true, in the New Testament the lord Jesus said it would be better in the day of judgment for Sodom and Gomorrha than for some of the cities and regions of His day where the people had actually had the opportunity to hear Him or His apostles preach and see the mighty works they had done. The Bible shows that there are degrees of punishment. The greater punishment is reserved for those who have had the greatest opportunity to be saved! Other people (those in Christ’s day who had personally heard Him preach) had not sunk to the same depth of depravity as those of Sodom and Gomorrha. But “…there is no difference. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. (Romans 3:22,23) “… God… now commandeth ALL men every where to repent.” (Acts 17:30)
The prohibitions and warnings God has given us in the New Testament against homosexuality cannot be overlooked.
Romans 1:24-28
1 Corinthians 6:9,10
1 Timothy 1:9,10
Jude vs.7
Sophia, you have shared some beautiful promises from the Word of God telling us how to be saved. These promises include every boy and girl, every man and woman, regardless of what sins they are guilty of! To every homosexual, lesbian, bisexual, and transexual, I say this: God loves you enough to accept you just as you are! But He loves you too much to leave you that way! All He requires is that you accept His free gift of salvation. (Ephesians 2:8,9). It comes by believing that Jesus Christ died for our sins as it says in Romans 5:6-8 and ask Christ to come into your heart and life like he tells you to do in Revelation 3:20. Then claim (believe you have) the promise of 1
I know, and we all know, that we do not have the right, nor the power to decide who should live and how they should live. I do no support homosexuality nor lesbianism, but I sure as hell will not hold a person’s sexual orientation against them. Each individual is responsible for the choices THEY MAKE. Many of us are hypocritical and use the bible to make excuses for our ignorance and blasphemy. We say that it’s against God’s word yet we openly accept promiscuousity and fornication. Who are we to judge? At the end of it all, there is only one who can condemn and that is the Most High. They rest of us just need to take a step back and focus on correcting our own issues.
truth!
alright then, it’s the begining of the end. why do gays need special protection. they are not discriminated against any more than the average person out there. i have never heard of someone in the caribbean not getting a job because they are gay, or not being allowed in a club because they are gay…. i see gays in the caibbean with the best jobs, flambouyant males are teachers, library workers,police officers etc
so what is protection are they going to recieve, will it be illegal for pastors to preach that homosexuality is wrong? ar they gonna be arrested while on the pulpit? will it be illegal for athe average induvidul to voice their veiws also. i beleve that an adult should be able to have a relationlship with wo ever they feel like…..but giving them special protection is too much.
i have a freind who got married to a much older guy and the entire community had so many bad things to say about her. should they be found guilty of age discrimination. the rich in society get treated better than than those less fortunate. this is also discrinination. what about all the kids who are beaten with belts and branches, this cannot be done to another adult but it can be done to kids, and the government allows it, now isn’t that discrimination. why aren’t the kids recieving protection. i will say it again it’s the begining of the end.
i have never read such ignorance!!! take some time and do some navel gazeing and reflect !!! and in the mean time look under your bed for what u pretend to not want in front of your door. you seem to have a chip on your sholder this is not a place for stupidity. if you took some time and understood what was going on you would not sound like a clashing symbol. ALL FLASH AND NO SUBSTANCE!!! so sometimes the best way to sound wise is to be silent!
Wow. These really are the last days. I personally do not support homosexuality, but I too am a sinner guilty of my own sins and the final judgment will be given by GOD and not man. Violence against a fellow human fr whatever reason is wrong, just as you would condemn a murderer for killing so too should you condemn a person for resulting to violent acts against a gay individual to satisfy their own personal belief on the matter. There are movements against domestic violence, violence against women and the likes, so why not the ones whose sexuality do not adhere to the “norm”? I don’t believe that anyone should be discriminated against or violently treated because they are gay, however, they should keep in mind that though society and these laws makes it easier for them to go public and be comfortable with their “lifestyle” that there is a supreme being who is looking down an by HIS hands they will surely be judged and condemned like all sinners.
Why not and by his hands WE ALL will be judged? you say u are a sinner then u seperate yourself inconsistant to the good point u were about to make!
if u did not read clearly, these laws made to “protect” them gives them the idea that it is alright to live the life they are and that nothing is wrong with it and society accepts it, but it will not be so with GOD he will never accept it,so therefore “THEY” should keep that in mind, they may escapes society’s scrutiny but not GOD’s.
well the Laws are made to protect us too! What does a gay person look like? what does a gay person Act like? there are men with feminin personalities who are hetrosexual just as women who are masculine and are hetrosexual. someone could walk up to u beat u up or me and claim that itt is because we were gay and for what and assumption. I did not know that God had favorits when god sends rain he sends rain on all good bad and ugly. but i guess it makes people feel better it seems when we say well these people not me! They just as us are responsible to God and are subject to his Scrutiny !
so a child molestor …molesting the same sex….if the molested one fights back….the gay molestor has to be protected..oh i get it now mannn …..shateeee hahahaha
To MARZHIE ALON
If this is your understanding of the the agreement signed, very sad, but this i tell you The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about.
so wat about gays infringin on str8 ppl rights now like barbados recently….fingering ppll…..for their pleasure….fireee bunnnnnnnn thiws is just a step towards legalizing homo’s skerrit can go ahead any thing to buy votes
“Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but STUPID lasts forever.”
— Aristophanes
Looking at those who are both for and against this subject matter, leads me to believe that Dominica on a whole tends to have a very ‘convenient’ sense of morality.
It’s a good thing that Dominica sign the agreement.Dont matter what we do and with who we do it at the end of the day we all are human being and need to be protected…i am from Dominica,but live in the states for years now wont beleive a hand full of my good friends a gay,some cross dressers(that the men that dress like women)am i wrong to associate myself with them or beat them up jus because they are gay ‘NO’ I LOVE THEM JUS AS MUCH AS MY OTHER FRIENDS WE ALL JUS RESPECT EACH OTHER ….CLOSING THESE PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE HOW THEY WANT TO LIVE THEIR LIFE,THERE’S NOTHING NASTY ABOUT WHAT THEY DO BEHIND CLOSE DOOR BECAUSE MAY IT BE( MAN AND WOMAN,WOMAN AND WOMAN OR MAN AND MAN) WE ALL DO THAT SAME NASTY THING WITH OUR OTHER HALF..DOMINICANS STOP BEING HYPOCRITES
I thought it was illegal to be gay in Dominica…
So we signed an agreement to say that something illegal to us should be respected protected and tolerated?
Personally I don’t like the concept and the idea of homosexuality however I don’t exactly make it my business to tell others that they’re this and that because they are in fact homosexual, and I do believe that noone has the right to tell disrespect anyone because of a particular sin as we are all sinners but to me I don’t like the idea.
If y’all going to protect gays then just protect child molesters, rapist murders and thieves while y’all at it
The difference is – being GAY is not the same as being a RAPIST, MURDERER and or a thief – these are all criminals!!!!!!!
And the only crime in being GAY – is that they are going against the word of your God and the bible. But let’s not forget that like the Gays, many ppl go against the word of God and the bible… and they are not receiving the same treatment like gay people.
So… the same bible which so often ppl quote in preaching their righteous, sanctimonious ways, is the same bible which says – LOVE THY NEIGHBOR!!!!
The hypocrisy of Christians is alarming!!!!!!
I am a Christian – and i do not believe that being Gay is right, but so to, do I not believe that condemning a man because of my beliefs is right. I can only pray for their sins, as i can hope that they pray for mine – because I’m a sinner just like them.
It’s not the same idiot!
IN beginning god created adam and eve . NOT ADAM AND STEVE , either christine and christina.
Is this your reason for disagreeing? That is very shallow and shows no thinking on you part, do you have to be a sheep repeating some silly rhetoric phase which is meaningless.
when God sends rain he sends it on the good , bad and the ugly and when the earth shakes the good bad and ugly shakes!!!
so remember that FF of Chicago!
Thumbs up Gary!
Live and let live. People have a right to live and love as they choose. I applaud the ambassador who signed on Dominica’s behalf.
We are all human.The bible said “we cannot love God whom we cannot see and hate our brother,whom we see everyday”.I am always disheartened by the way the public treat GAY people.They are different from us and we never know how much they are suffering,just to belong among us.I don’t support their lifestyles,but i cannot help but LOVE them.Let us not be hypocrites,,we committ Adultery,Fornication,Murder,and is no big deal.But the same bible says..if you are guilty of breaking one commandment-then you are guilty of breaking all.What of using a cutlass to murder somebody,and a woman had an abortion,is there a difference?Well,let us not judge people,let GOD be the judge of all.Let us not interfere with them..making it known to them that they should keep their ways to themselves,but after all,there are maybe more gay men than straight ones.The stories i’ve listened to from my gay friend is unbelievable;the gay-bi-sexual thing is so big here,it’s frightening.Let us put ourselves in their shoes for once,and see how much difficult life for them can be.I honestly believe that we should refrain from bullying them and let us live in peace.We are all GOD’S children.
Thank God that Dominica recognizes that all persecuted persons need protection. Gays are people too, and to all those who JUDGE… do not forget what the bible says about HATRED. We are all sinners and the GAY man’s sin is no worse than yours and mine.
All you can do is pray for them….and they can pray for you too, because like them – we are all sinners!
We should not be so quick to throw stones and call down fire and brimstone on anyone…because HYPOCRISY is just as bad.
All this is heaping coals of fire on man.Jah never change and never will.big up Nigeria,alone against all.Jah send the fire.woe unto you lawmakers.it will turn against you.how many of you makoume and lesbian believe and trust in the name of Jesus?you hypocrites.twisters of truth.burn them Jah!!
You do realize this is a stance against violence don’t you? Or are you too stupid to even recognize that? You must be reading a different version of the bible than everyone else. And you go around saying Jah Jah jah like a clown.
The U.N statement in no way approves or disapproves of the gay lifestyle (whatever that is). It rightly denounces the violence that is perpetrated against gay people every day. Some are tortured; some are murdered. This position by the 85 countries may be interpreted as being similar to saying ”I disagree with what you say but I will defend your right to say it.”
I believe that everyone has basic rights and those are God given. The Bible does say that we should love our neighbour as our selves, however the same Bible does call the act of Homosexuality an ABOMINATION! I will never condone violence/discrimination against anyone for their sexual orientation, I believe that such violence/discrimination is WORNG, but the ACT of HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG.
I agree with you and I hope the rest of those condemning this agreement see it that way. This is simply countries coming together to say we will not tolerate violence against gays, lesbians etc. If someone is gay that’s between them and God to deal with if you think its wrong. it’s not your right to commit any violence against them.
i do not agree with this hOWEVER I belive all judgement shud be done by the Good Lord himself…sin is sin…we all look down on gay /lesbians but we are all guilty of some type of sin ourselves..I’m very sure most of US have sex before marriage…SIN?thought so…#just saying
I believe this is a subtle tactic to embrace homosexuality. We need to read between the lines. These people are using the Acts of Violence committed against this group to push their support for the lifestyle. I do not condone violence against anyone, that includes homosexuals, but we need to be real. Double standard. Can we say we don’t accept your lifestyle and turn around and say i’ll protect you? This is not about the violence, rather it’s about the acceptance of the lifestyle. John 12:40. “Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. Our spiritual leadership have shut their mouths for too long. Their silence have caused the anger of God. What a shame!! Who will stand in the gap for God?. God help us.
To Ellen Evaline Paul
It is very disturbing reading your comment with your paradoxical nonsense saying you do not condone acts of violence against anyone including Homosexuals, but them you’re opposed to laws being made to protect them and end the violence, questioning the validity of such laws insinuating it is a means of embracing Homosexuality and that the Acts of violence perpetrated against Homosexuals are not real but made up so as to gain sympathy for the support of their lifestyle, what utter nonsense. Well if you do not agree with the lifestyle based on your religious beliefs which you are entitled to, you also have to remember they are Human beings and should not be hated, discriminated and victimized by violence just because of their lifestyle or different sexual orientation. it is not about accepting a lifestyle and turnaround and say i will protect you, as you’re thinking. What you are doing is looking at a person first based on their sexual orientation rather than looking at then as Human being using your religious beliefs as the primary source of judgement and decision making. Where is you God given gift to think. That is why i have always said if you do not use your mind someone else will use it for you.
You using the bible as a reference to support your disagreement does not prove anything at all neither does it sweep aside the fact that people are victimized and hated to the point of violence being perpetrated against them simply because of their sexual orientation. This i will tell you, it is not Satan that has blinded the minds of people, it is religion with it’s dogma and indoctrination which is robbing the human race of the ability to think, breading ignorance, intolerance and hatred. It is very funny when you talk about spiritual leadership have shut their mouths, why is it we have to have the backing of spiritual leadership to give something legitimacy or make a course truthful. When you make the statement quote- “their silence have caused the anger of God. What a shame!!” this shows typical religious fanaticism, calming to know the mind of God, using God to justify your personal beliefs, very dangerous concept.
In your closing comment you asked quote “Who will stand in the gap for God?. God help us” it is not about standing in any gap for God but rather we as Human beings should show tolerance, end hatred and violence based on religious beliefs and convictions. Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions. Finally for you Tolerance implies no lack of commitment to one’s own beliefs. rather it condemns the oppression or persecution of others.
It looks like the lines separating good and evil have become blurred.As long as we have to show tolerance for what is wrong then we are on the road to destruction.Why is it that we are very busy to quote do not judge from the Bible so that we wont have to hear the truth of our actions.Its not about judging people its about making known wrong is wrong.This is a subtle way of saying lets help gay people continue in their lifestyle because we accept it under the umbrella of human rights.
To all those of us dominicans who dont see a problem with it then lets all just wait to hear and see what God’s view is on this,i know many of us Dominicans wont like it,you see all what is happening all over the world,wait and see,God is not mocked,
Satan is having a party all now,cause once again he has succeeded to fool people,Ms Paul i agree with you.
To curious
This i will tell you it is not about the separation of lines between Good and Evil, it is about ignorance
knowledge and truth. You see the terms Good and Evil can sometimes be relative as in your case, you have chosen what you find to believe is Good and Evil.based on your religious beliefs. that is fine you’re entitled to your belief, but there is something fundamental we should all know about beliefs and that is they are not necessarily truths, they are personal convictions we have, now you have to ask your self how you came about gathering the information to arrive at that belief or conviction you have. We also have to remember there is a difference between what believe about something and what that thing really is. The beliefs we have always change over a period of time. the truth is eternal and never changes, it is what it is.
You know if someone has a different sexual orientation than you, why is it you take it upon your self and see it as a problem and talking about wait and see what God view is on it, this is the most nonsensical thing, the view you have about God is yours, Finally it is not about Satan having a party, and he succeeded to fool people. it is about people willing to wallow in ignorance in their self pity beliefs.
Gary I would shake your hand!!
Ms Paul,
sometimes being silent projects more wisdom than speaking out!
And BTW When did Satan become god of the world? I thought Christ was Lord of Heaven, Earth and under the earth?
And on another note, Gays and lesbians, blacks, whites, indians, etc. Are all Created in the image of God. and the fundamental human right is that all humans be protected. just like you are to be protected from your bad attempt at theology!
At Gary my belief about the Bible is never going to change ever.All what the Bible say is the truth anyone who doesnt believe in the Bible calls God a liar.And for your information Jesus Christ is not religion.so i am not part of any religion far less to have religious beliefs.And when you talk about there is a difference between what we believe and what it really is,when it comes to GOD’s word it is what it is and it never changes.And i do not have to ask myself a question that i already know.I believe God word and that is final for me.
Blessed nite you.
AWESOME MY A**! FIRE BON DEM, WICKED MEN AN EVIL DOERS,BABYLON AN ALL BEHIND DIS ABONINATION.
JAH IS AGAINST THIS RUBBISH!!!….NASTY R*S! TURN DEA A** INTO SALT AN DISTROY THE NATION – DOMINICA AFI STOP COMMIT AN SUPPORT SUCH ABOMINATION
Hummmmm.. The next thing you know you people will want us to accept incest or beastly too right???….because according to you its the same thing. We can’t judge their actions as wrong and the term wrong will then be subjective “Leaving all Judgment for God whenever he decides to do that”….what prevents a pedophilia from saying he need protection from all levels of victimization and discrimination? Since it is the way God made him to be attracted to children…WAITING FOR THE OTHER SHOE TO DROP!!!
Signing this statement only makes sense if we are ready to repeal any existing laws that make homosexual acts illegal. How else could we sign an agreement that calls for and end to acts of “criminal sanctions”? I’m totally against prejudice or acts of violence against people that have a sexual preferrences that differ from mine. However, that does not mean that I have to condone those practices. Remember, we stil have laws in place that safeguard commmon decency and they apply to to all, regardless of sexual orientation. Would it be at all possible that in taking this decision the Govt. considered the possibility of missing out on the “pink dollar” as an all important factor?
It appears that homosexuality and lesbianism are the only and worst ills in our societies.
Murderers, rapists, pedophiles and drug traffickers roam freely and happily. Many times held in high esteem in our neighborhoods and are our friends. We dare not speak against them. We say they have good hearts, we say no one is perfect….
Stop being hypocrites my people. Stop quoting the bible or religion only when it suits you.
couldnt have said it any better; thats all they see to them all is well
It’s funny how they made such a decision without the Dominican public singing off on it…we the people should dictate what we accept. The one who made such a decision was most likely well invested in its outcome….we want the negatives of the first world countries but can’t seem to attain the positives….A.K.A…..USA= WEALTH Dominica= POVERTY……. takes it how you want…
stupes
So for every decision to be made on an international level the Government must come to us, the people, first? And then what?
They will hold a vote and the side with the most votes will be the prevailing decision?
I think the point of focus here is Human Rights…even if these people choice to be how they are, they are still human and deserves to be treated as such. Though i donot support such lifestyle, i would want to believe that not given the God i know and serve would support discriminating against anyone. Their lifestyle is a matter between them and their God. Who are we to judge? Whether you are a homosexual, gay, bi-sexual, Thieft, Adulter, rapist, lier, these are all sins, and we have all being involve in one or the other, are we blind to some sin and support others. All these sins are listed in the same bible and de-nounced by the same God we all claim to serve. Again, its about Discrimination, who are we to judge?
Sorry for the typos ……..choose not choice , ……wouldnt – in the third sentence
AMEN sister/brother….well said!
boy mr and thjem better watch what the saying
we already not in line with god DOMINICA keep yourself quiet and burn fire on ba**yman ehh
we too much like to be like AMERICA !!!!!! AMERICAN WANNA BE’S
Im so mad at that sh— if you prick me you cannot get blood
vex i vex like that stop trying to be antichrist and read the word of god and live it up
that’s pure ignorance right there
@Never: Your ignorance and illiteracy is showing, be quiet.
o buller
i understand you want to walk with your man legal on the road but abomination is abomination
stop that dirty practice
(yawningggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg)
We the Dominica Muslim Community and the muslim community of believers strongly abhor and deemed illegical under Islamic law the support of homosexuality and homosexuals.
I tried calling Matt this morning however I couldn’t get through.
This claim that the declaration refers to violence against homosexuals and lesbians, these people have a greater goal. They are paving the way for homosexuality to be legalized in every country in the world.
My appeal to the Dominican people, christianity is not the answer. It does not have practical laws to deal with homosexuality. Only Islam deals with homosexuals based on divine law.
And how do you’ll deal with it? By chopping people’s heads off? Man be quiet!!
lol lol
well said qstorm78.
To Dawoud Abdur-rahman Darroux
It is very frighting and disturbing to hear you say that the way Islam deals with homosexuality are based on divine laws, I do not think you truly understand the meaning of the Phrase “divine law”, your laws you are referring to are not divine but barbaric, is this the kind of laws you want to introduce to our Country.
JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY TRUE AND LIVING GOD.OF ISRAEL IS THE ONLY WAY….NOT RELIGION OF DEAD MAN!
@ Dawoud Abdur-rahman Darroux
U MUST UNDERSTAND THAT SIN IS THE PROBLEM; IF U HAVE NO SIN THEN CAST THE FIRST STONE! John 8:6-8 (King James Version)
And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
4They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
6This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
10When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
.JESUS ALONE DIED FOR OUR SINS!
Romans 5:8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
I am feeling a scene of great satisfaction and openness of this issue. Those responsible for representing Dominica I applaud you for your understanding , vision and foresight in this matter.Because at the end of the day people will always be people regardless of your life route. Further , this shows that the government is serious about fight crime and bringing peace and tranquility to all who live in our beloved island. As the saying goes Only god can Judge me.Love you Dominica.
boy just shut your mouth
JUST BEHAVE YOURSELF EHH
DAT ALLU WANT WEII FOR GOV’T TO LET ALLU DO IT LEGAL OVER MY DEAD BODY
NOTTIN TALL GO SO
GIVE CHRIST YOUR LIFE AND CONVIENCE YOUR FELLOW BREATHRENS TO STOP THAT IT IS NOT RIGHT
Brimstone and fyahhhh!!!!!!
Judgement gwaan fall on de country. Lord I pray that you spare us.
It brings tears to my eyes to read that Dominica signed such an agreement!
Why do they need special rights anyway? What’s so special about being nasty? Stupes! Sometimes I think Dominica just like to follow fashion.
Away with all dat Sodom and Gommorah vibes!
Is really de last days eh boy! Jah!
Believe it or not there are gay people in this world. Leaving all Judgement for God whenever he decides to do that, don’t you think that your fellow human beings should be protected from all levels of victimisation and discrimination? If you are a religious person, don’t you know that you should love your neighbours as yourself irrespecitive of who they are. It is your kinid of bigotory that had our forfathers enslaved for some many years.
nonsense you talking they are apart of the world but you sound like you are one fo them
fire burn you if you are
this in contradiction to the word of god
DOMINICA don’t support man being bullers
some have maco ways witch you cannot prevent but bugger is out of the question
Why all this hate…what business it is of yours if a man sleep with a man or a woman sleeping with a woman..what business is that of your. You saying I am gay it is you that seems to be gay. Is it killing you inside all this gay feelings that you have. When you come out it is people like me that will be there to protect you. Idiot!
Ignorant fool. Would you be happy if your brother, sister or other family member was gay and they would be constantly harassed and beaten and for the government to provide no protection for them? Like the others have said at the end of the day they’re human beings, and they should be protected. If you’re against people being gay that’s up to you, but don’t be against them being protected. Educate yourself and think.
you may wel have a SON under your bed who is gay or you man maybe bringing the rest of you know what home for you!
Dno ur article says that Dominica did sign…and your subject says we didn’t sign!!! Correction please!!
Admin: it is an error that was corrected.
Oh so admin you do make mistakes then? So go easy when people comment and make mistakes too yea? N I know you will either not post this or give me my fair share of abuse but that’s ok
Thank you, Dominica. My dead friend’s son may soon be able to walk the way that is natural to him without being hurled insults.
America is the number country where tolearnce is practiced, and YET some of the most despicable hate crimes are committed there. So your “dear friend son” will find that it is still a VERY difficult road to walk, a very lonley one at that. In fact being out is the very thing tht encourages insult and crimes, God help us all..
It says at the bottom of the article that Dominica did , in fact sign the agreement. I hope this is so. We are INSTRUCTED, COMMANDED by the Almighty to love our neighbor as ourself . He does not give us any excuse to get out of that. If we wish to see his face we are to recognize that He created us all in His image. The fact that some people carry out acts distasteful to us and to Him is up to the Lord Himself to judge … not us. That is not our job … our job is simply to love one another as He has loved us. The the human rights we have had to fight for as black people cannot now be denied to others because of their sexual orientation.
In the same bible where you read about the instructions and commandments of the Almighty to love our neighbors, there is also scripture indicating that he despises and cannot tolerate sodomy.